Be Blizzard

it was the last fun blizzard game, but only with a full group of friends
it just had the reputation of being super casual game which invited tons of retards, but you actually had to do the fucking map objectives and work together as a team or you would get stomped

be Blizzard

There's your anwser.

Supposedly it was doing just fine but Actiblizz "didn't see a future" for it or some shit like that.
Esports also wasn't making any money so they canned it all at once, put the budget into Overwatch esports (lol) and shoved most of the devs into Diablo, I think.

daily reminder that the best moba was HoN and HotS was always hypercasual trash that was easier to play than Laugh out Loud.

This was the last blizzard game where some of the people who made it actually cared, emphasis on "some".

Being easier to play isn't a bad thing when your "more competitive" option is just fake difficulty.

because the monetization is stupid

3 currencies

level up to gain loot boxes full of filler shit like voice lines and avatars

buy xp booster to get more boxes full of stuff noboby wants

just sell skins for gems you maroons

HoN can suck a fat cock because it killed Savage

nah it's always about money, if it made money it wouldn't be dead, simple. So it was probably doing fine but steadily declining

Considering the alternative, it's better that they don't touch it and leave it alone, rather than doing another Overwatch 2.

i used to play it for a couple hours a week and got overloaded with so many loot boxes i stopped bothering to even open them i have no idea how they even made any money

i usually hated having nazeebo on my team because dota and lol refugees would try to play him like a farming late game carry and never damage the enemy forts or show up to fights. as if the talent for hero kills wouldnt get him more than enough voodoo power for vile infection.

Muradin can run away from most situations
The most fucking annoying tank to fight against

i dont think johanna needs to be learned, she is very easy, just be an obstacle in the middle of the fight

removing tower ammo was a huge mistake
they also ruined tyrande, asmodan and zagara because no fun allowed

Honestly yeah, As someone who played DOTA for about 3 years before giving up because the constant negativity was fucking with my head, having a casual option is needed in the market

I enjoy a lot of the gameplay ideas of MOBA's, but the community is always the thing that drags it down, even recently I've been playing Deadlock which added ranked mode (which is a weird thing to do for a game in alpha) which encouraged players to tryhard and develop the same mentality that drove me away from DOTA2, but the fact it was a separate mode meant the tryhards could stay in their containment zone and not just shit all over the casual players
Valve, in a BAFFLING DECISION decided to merge casual and ranked modes in the last patch, this has completely killed the enjoyment of the game for me, because I just want to play a match or 2 after work due to enjoying the mechanics, but every single match since the patch has been a nightmare because you end up with the sweaty ranked players just shitting all over the casual players and making every. single. match. a one-sided stomp, even if I'm on the winning team it doesn't feel good because it's CONSTANT intensity

I play ranked in these games casually.
The seething tryhards can't hurt me. Their tears are delicious.

They didnt see ESPORTS money
I actually liked the game alot though and played it for quite some time after it was abandonded but havent touched it in about a year

You can buy skins for gems.

yes but you can also just get them for shards. my point is the lack of incentive to spend money

They were trying to copy Overwatch's gold system but they fucked up the rates.
Even Overwatch abandoned that model for OW2.

Yes, this was around the time blizzard was pushing the esports angle hard is every one of their games.
HOTS is fine, but blizzard expected it to dethrone LoL and DotA in a year, so it was a failure and sunseted

But the casual mode is ranked. I know it sound strange but in casual you play with everyone in ranked only people on your rank. but bad draft is the n °1 reason for stomps.

thats insane if thats really what was going on in their heads

Can you blame them? Why else would they invest? Maybe gamers should invest some money

nerf Mephisto specifically in ARAM by removing his heal globe talent specifically in this mode

....why? I'm all for some balancing in ARAM, but why would you nerf Mephisto specifically over Azmodan or Zagara? Mephisto is strong in ARAM, sure, but he is not "if your team has this champ they win" strong like Azmo and Zag. Also, Mephisto is interactive. You can do shit to fuck him over. The likes of Zagara, Azmodan Chromie are completely uninteractive and unfun to play against. Why was he singled out as the character that needed a nerf specifically for ARAM?

Because picrel
It removed his every possible weakness in one talent on an already safe hero. It was completely fucking busted and meant mephisto was only just behind zul'jin and nazeebo in terms of aram strength. He was autowin
And azmo and zagara are massively overhyped in aram.

get that cock out of your mouth

i never lost a single game with mephisto when spite was still allowed
zagara can get her minions wave cleared or walked away from, her ass jumped, or simply run over pre-16
azmodan can get his big burst damage outhealed and what sustained he does have gets zoned out or interrupted
chromie can get her combo dodged at least
all 3 require having a functional frontline or retarded opponents
mephisto didn't need anybody but himself, he was permanently full hp and the only time he was vulnerable was when he was shitting out burst at such a high interval he became a dps

Huh. I knew it was strong, but it seemed managable to me. Didn't know it was this crazy.

In any case, my main problem with Zag and Azmo isn't that they are strong but that they are fucking boring. Mephisto porting in usually gives you the ability to punish in some way. Nuke him, collapse on his shadow, etc. Strong, yeah, recquires some coordination. But there is something to do.
With these long range poke mages you, either dodge their attacks or you don't. (Chances are, your mates don't.) That's all the counterplay there is. And you see them in basically every match.

I guess now that I think about it, Chromie did have a talent removed on ARAM, but that was years ago. Mephisto's nerf came in the middle of a months long drought of effectively no change in the game. Like the devs abandoned it completely, only to come back for some random Meph nerf.

It did make money. They killed it because they only cared about E-sports and no one who played it cared about E-sports.
People still play it to this day.

that's a delusion imo

Nah.

Didn't know it was this crazy.

It gave him not only more hp and mana from globes (something he will always be able to get in aram) but reduced his CDs for each tick he had going. His only weakness was having long, punishing CDs because he would only ever shade in from safety behind walls or his team and the time when he's shading in he's now nuking your own face for much worse. It would require every DPS having instant options and all going on him at the same time to genuinely endanger him and few good aram assassins can just instantly fuck his day up when he's in your face. The only reason why azmo might be worse is because if you do counter him with enough heals he can just backdoor safely by dropping some demons on buildings and walking away but mephisto would always push you behind your towers.

I think the best assfaggots was Battlerite.
Supervive is also really good.

Tyrande lower on par with Guldan

Tyrael that high

damn
Also would have thought Hanzo was stronger.

Poor Dehaka not having his mount on that one shitty map. He's sucha fan champ on ARAM.

Tyrande lower

I meant Tyrande winrate

try to play this game again

4h queue

wtf

You find a game in seconds. The game is very alive

Supervive is a battle royale and it sucks

It's a custom map assfaggots
if it sucks you suck, combat is great
either get friends or get good

Nope battle royale dogshit

You sound like those RTS grandparents that refused to accept that assfaggots are just single/few unit RTS games

Battlerite is a moba, not an assfaggots
I respect people who enjoy Battlerite / Bloodline Champions because they don't bullshit about not liking shops/last hitting/laning like some HotS players do.

Here's the current patch
And Tyrande is honestly a great healer/off-DPS (better than WM because she has actual CC) the issue is that people don't know how to play around her. They go into a match with her as a solo heal then just expect her to shit out healing between fights and spam ping when her 16 second CD is up like she can fix that. She's amazing at dumping out massive amounts of emergency healing during a fight if you have a frontline that lets her actually right-click. Pick mark talents so your right clicks bounce and you will actively increase someone's health even while being focused by all 5.
Gul'dan's issue is that people are fucking retarded. He's vulnerable, yeah, but he shits out so much raw DPS that it doesn't matter but everyone falls for the corruption meme when drain life is the actual winning talent line. Pick up rampant hellfire in the late game and your 2 sec cd nuke now deals 800 damage.
Tyrael works fine if you treat him as a backline disruption instead of pretending like he's supposed to be some wall in the frontline. If your team can actually handle itself while you're gone, either a bruiser or just assassins who can move around their tank, then you can easily pin 2 or 3 heroes down while they handle business.
A real problem with judging ARAM winrates is that so many people have zero idea how to use heroes, let alone build them for aram specifically so there are plenty who are tanked by incompetency, something you can see when you start filtering by player rank as well. Probius, for example, should be way higher but nobody knows how to use him so they pick warp resonance and rift shock and think they can play some weird nuker then eat a single orb or dunk and die.

game is so dead matches end up being 1v1 with 4 bots

lmao

That's because they were expecting it to be the next LoL, and instead of accepting a decently profitable game they put it in maintenance mode.

This mentality is what's wrong. There has to be infinite growth or else investors start complaining and making unreasonable demands.

It was about money, but in a retarded (((shareholder))) way. It was decently profitable, but they wanted League of Legends so after trying to force esports didn't work they said fuck it and butchered it to push Overwatch esports. The (((shareholder))) will burn the world to the ground in 10 minutes if it means a potential 5% profit increase in 6 minutes

They actually did initially, I got mecha anub'arak and azgul'dan for burgers way back in the day. The new system came with hots 2.0 iirc