How come I never see anybody riding bikes in these post apocalyptic games? Everyone always travels on foot

hello redd1t

Yes, I own multiple bikes. The amount of tools required to maintain a bike, including everything you need to completely disassemble one, can be kept in a small bag, only a few pounds of weight, and most of the time you won't need 90% of those tools for a typical repair while out riding like a puncture or adjusting the seat / bars.

Bikes are the ultimate tool to get around in any apocalyptic scenario, literally the most efficient too. You need no power or energy to do any repairs on a bike, only hand tools.

You make something so simple made of pulleys sound more complicated than it actually is.

this website is really just a bunch of redditors accusing each other of being redditors isnt it

Too faggy looking
It's literally impossible to make cyclists look cool

You say that right now because you can order new parts from amazon. Try finding replacement ball bearings of a specific size in a wasteland that has been plundered from all valuables.

You don't need precision machining and rare materials.

Do you know anything at all about bicycle maintenance? The amount of tools you need is tiny, even specialized tools for taking off a bottom bracket or a derailer for example can be done with regular tools you could find in anyone's garage. Bikes are some of the easiest things to repair I can think of, they are incredibly simple especially just a standard mountain or hybrid bike. Add some racks to it, some saddle bags and you can haul a ton of stuff with a bike in any survival situation, even across bad terrain.

Even if the terrain is hard to maneuver, you can just hop off the bike and walk it, and the bike is still going to be carrying all the weight of your gear, not your back.

You don't need precision machining and rare materials.

you don't need that for a bike either? it's a post-apocalypse, there's a bunch just sitting around
fix up the tires a little (they don't even need to be air-filled, solid ones will do just fine) and you're good to go
a horse needs to be fed (about 20 lbs of forage) and watered every single day, not just when you're using it and depending on the kind of apocalypse we're talking about, might need to be defended from extremely dangerous predators
a bike just sits there until you're ready to use it
there's also just going to be thousands upon thousands of bikes sitting around whereas there probably isn't a horse within 20 miles of me

Generation zero has bikes. Good game.

Literally Days Gone anon, and they pretty much directly say they're more useful than cars in the circumstances they're in

hurr infinite food

Your experience with nature is passing by the veggie stand in walmart.

Days gone

Ball bearings? The only ball bearings in a bike are on a bottom bracket or wheel hub, and those will last literally tens of thousands of miles, you never even have to worry about changing those.

I've owned multiple bikes for many years, my current road bike had over 20k miles on it, changed the tires a few times, changed the chain and cassette multiple times, a cassette usually lasts about 2-3 chains until its too worn down.

I have old poorly maintained bikes in my garage. If I pump the tires I can get miles out of them? I don't know, I think an ambitious group in a city could reasonably maintain a fleet of them with random scrap and supplies from a hardware store. different than cars sucking up oil.

honest answer is this
the image of a lone wanderer traveling by foot on a post-apocalyptic road is classic
same image but with a bicycle immediately turns it into some gay whimsical European thing

Ok try making your own bike chain, bro.
You think they will be just lying around on the streets?
People will use them for generators and shit first.
And once all of them are gone, who's gonna make more?
You need precision tools for it to work, crude home made garbage won't last.

What ydo you think your wheels are monted to?
The axis need them to turn.

All post apoc stuff falls apart under scrutiny

some gay whimsical European thing

think you're being too cynical, it'd definitely be an offbeat but the average person would recognize it as a bit of scrappy ingenuity.

If a postapocalypse is able to maintain guns, it's also able to maintain bikes.

Classic post apocalypse where you can maintain guns and armor and generators or even military vehicles sometimes but not a simple bike. I like Fury Road because it fully embraces this idea instead of trying to get around it, and the result is your setting becomes full retard.
More seriously OP's pic is the Zone, and you could easily bring or find a bike in there. It's not 200 years old like Fallout, and it's a contained area where civilization still exists outside of it

you sounds like a huge pussy, you won't get injured if you fall from a bicycle at 5mph. You can always jump from the bike if there's a zombie or whatever, unless you are a fat ass

Bicycles are cool tho

subhumans itt think "maintaining" a bike requires a specialized shop and highly educated experts in addition to heavy machinery and chemical processing

they want horses instead because those are easy

I'm tired of the apocalypse. I want the post section to start already.

You think they will be just lying around on the streets?

literally yes? you'd eventually find bikes in a city.

Zone is quite not an apocylpse at all.
It's just an exclusion area, all civilisation outside is fully intact.

t. never owned a bike for longer than 3 years and actually used it daily.

lol

Just find a bike shop or break into garages if your bike has some irreparable damage. You're all acting like your lone bike is the last in the world.

Bro, you are seriously overestimating the complexity of bike maintenance. You can do everything yourself with simple tools, mostly alan wrenches.

Like I said, the only things you need specific tools to get off is usually a bottom bracket which requires a special socket wrench head to get off, same with a cassette which usually require a specific socket wrench too and a chain pulling tool to get it loose. Bikes are very useful in any apocalypse scenario.
No need for fuel
low maintenance
can easily carry tools to fix anything
Bikes are common so getting parts to fix them is easy most people have one in their garage.

I do ~10k km per yer
lmao

This is the main issue. Once the roads start to crumble and tools begin to wear down the usefulness of a bike goes down dramatically.

Lmao come on now
Can you imagine someone like Mad Max riding around on a gay little bicycle?

Yeah so how often did you order new parts huh?
Or did you make your own?

its the bikes

people genuinely thought Stalker 2 was gonna look like that

can repair guns, armor and even military level exoskeleton armor

can't repair a simple bike

t.

I see boomers riding around on their soviet era bikes all the time and I guarantee you they haven't touched anything on it since the fall of the Berlin wall

there were supposed to be vehicles in shadow of chernobyl but gsc are fucking hacks who were still unable to implement it after 20 years

~3.5k km per chain, cassete every 3 chains, front chainring every two casettes
and thats for a road bike. you can ride a clunker with stretched chain no probs

because bethesda can barely program a horse let alone bike physics. neither can gsc

the bicycle is a hat

Chains will be the RAREST parts to exist in a post apocylpse scenario because they have so many uses.
They will be looted day fucking 1.

the real answer to your question is that it's not an immediately obvious survival need, doesn't fit into the broad tropes of the genre and would require quite a bit of commitment as a gameplay mechanic.
they would certainly be used at some point in real life but out in the dangerous zone it's questionable how much the raw speed of a bike would be worth the lack of caution, stealth and weapons at the ready.

It doesn't have to last forever to be useful for a while

I'm not sure I'm feeling it.

All of these are heck lot simpler than the typical bike. We are talking carbon fiber materials and stuff torqued to specific nm else wheels may snap off at random and kill you and all kinds of other complexity like that. It's pointless.

Raiding local army posts for fuel and vehicles is 1000x easier and won't even make you look gay in the eyes of the other survivors.

How many games actually have bikes at all?
Pretty sure devs just don't want to bother getting all that stuff working.

Only five.

behold, a peak of mankind's engineering... unfortunately, such technologies will be lost after the collapse

again, there are plenty of old bikes around that you can ride through molten lava and nothing will happen
and don't get me started on wakandian scientists making bikes and tricycles from lead pipes and sheet metal in Africa

You think they will be just lying around on the streets?

there are around 100 million bikes in the US, so yes, i do think that
and you really think that people who are capable enough to make their own generators can't make a fucking bicycle? people were making them in the early 1800s out of wood without chains
and you can't just slot a bike chain into an existing generator and expect it to work, so that person is going to be making their own generator by taking apart multiple machines and welding things together
you think that guy can't figure out how to make a bike chain?

A bike? They couldn't possibly maintain that in a post apocalyptic shithole

Those bikes are being shipped in massive containers from the west for these savages to use up until they are dust. if the west would stop they'd switch to donkeys again.

be me riding my gay little bicycle

hear loud rumbling v16 quad turbocharged monstrosity from 10 miles away

finally found the moron responsible for the occasional zombie horde pestering the neighborhood

hide in the bush and wait

before the faggot comes into range the sound cuts off

out of gas

hard to code please understan

All of these are heck lot simpler than the typical bike. We are talking carbon fiber materials and stuff torqued to specific nm else wheels may snap off at random and kill you and all kinds of other complexity like that. It's pointless.

this is quite possibly the most facetious thing i have ever seen written on this website
the modern bike with a chain was invented in fucking 1885
it's a metal frame with two wheels, a handlebar, pedals and a chain attached to a gear
the average person could assemble a bike if given the parts (pipes, wheels, chain, etc), some basic tools and a picture of the finished product even if they have no training

Having your hands on a pair of handlebars rather than a gun seems like a step in the wrong direction

Looks can be deceiving. That is in fact not a post-apocalyptic game, it actually appears to be India.

his post was ironic

Is Stalker 2 actually worth playing now?
How is the performance? My 2080s struggled and I had to make everything look like shit to even get 40-60 fps at 1080p

Love people that think horses can just eat for 15 minutes a day and then run with a load for 150 miles

Source: Trust me bro

There is a reason people have used horses for thousands of years while bikes are a very recent inverntion and mostly used for recreational purpose.

1 bicycle for every 4 or 5 people in the us

Too high, I’m not buying it.

The guy has a point, bikes aren't made to last. Steel bikes aren't the norm anymore, haven't been for a long time. There's alu bikes and carbon mostly.

if the atmosphere isn't toxic, literally everyone would be building foot/bikepaths, bunkers, farms. scavenging would be 1/10th of what these games make it out to be

Uh, anon?

Motorcycles aren't bicycles, dummy.

I would wager it's much easier for the average, somewhat mechanically minded person to figure out how to maintain a bicycle than to shoe, shelter, feed, and groom a horse.
And no, horses can't just graze on grass if you intend to use them for labor.

people have used horses for thousands of years

Extremely misleading considering the way that we've "used horses" has changed dramatically over time. Stirrups took a few thousand years to develop and horseshoes were another important invention.

bikes were mostly used for recreational purpose

Bikes were the tool that first allowed the population to move around independently before the car arrived on the scene

performance has improved a bit, but not enough imo. Devs have been updating the game, but so far it's mostly been bug fixes. I'd say, give it another 6 months, or maybe even a year

it's a game you fucktard

Holy fuck you know nothing about the history of bikes.
They were only used by rich people to goof around. And the bike we know today that is actually safe to drive only existed for like 120 years.

holy fucking retard kek

Someone saw a youtube short and now is an expert on the history of bicycles.

history of bikes

uh oh we have a "shit nobody cares about" enthusiast

“Let me tell you what I think of bicycling. I think it has done more to emancipate women than anything else in the world. It gives women a feeling of freedom and self-reliance. I stand and rejoice every time I see a woman ride by on a wheel…the picture of free, untrammeled womanhood.”
I guess all the suffragettes were rich people goofing around?

Depends on the game really. Many of them have most of the map be the kind of ground that is basically impassable for bikes or any other vehicle.
It might work for games where the survivors went innawoods, like that zombie game with the biker mc whose actor also played starkiller.

Tire punctures after ten minutes of riding on post-apocalyptic asphalt and dirt rails littered with metal and glass

No more bike

So its just apocalyptic then?

walk to the next town

get new bike

New bike's tires are flat and dry rotted

you seen the gear people wear in these games? especially the metal armor? the weapons? tools to maintain a bike should be the least of your concerns if you want realism

I have literally seen a man make bicycle tires out of 2x4's in the shape of swastikas.

Look at this soft little sissy, do you need an accelerometer-activated airbag vest to ride too?

Who the fuck would want to play this?

well done
you ruined the thread immediately

Yeah I'm sure that would work great outside while pedaling as fast as you can away from a horde of cannibals on a gravel trail.

reads bike

assumes a pedal bike and not dirt bike or even better, ATV

you brain has some sort of rot in it Im afraid

Using a bike is more calorie-intensive than walking. So if you're in a post-apocalyptic hellhole scavenging for food and trying to save as much energy as possible, walking would be more efficient than biking.

Using a bike is more calorie-intensive than walking

u wot m8

Have you never seen a picture of africa or india (modern-day post apocalyptic wastelands)?
Literally everyone is riding a motorbike, motorized scooter, or one of those weird 3-wheel motorbikes. They're incredibly easy to maintain with minimal metalworking skills, common sense, and mechanical experience.
A bicycle is even easier.

They get parts en masse from china...

Using a bike is more calorie-intensive than walking

When comparing time, not distance
Yeah if you cycle for 30 minutes you burn a few more calories than if you walk for 30 minutes but you also go three times farther

Those are all basicslly the same thing, retard.

The point is that it's really fucking easy to either make or source every part to a bike.
I mean you could find some 14-inch PVC pipe, cut it into 3 inch segments, fashion spokes out of metal wire, optionally score them or spray them with something abrasive to add traction, and you have two bike wheels that will probably live longer than you will.

So they can't afford fucking clean drinking water but they can afford to not have to maintain their own equipment? Last time I checked africa is real-life mad max with trucks missing floor panels, cars with tank treads, and cement mixers made with welded sheet-aluminum.

full retard

NTA, please fill us in on the real history

No

Using a bike is more calorie-intensive than walking

Do you think gears are actual, legitimate magic?

You get bikes in 7 days to die.

Uh, yeah I don't know about that. Bikes are great because they're very well designed but as soon as you start changing out things like tires it's going to work like shit and won't be worth the effort of trying to use. If it has a shifter or pad brakes you're also going to eventually be fucked with no replacements.

I think you are (retarded) underestimating how much more efficient bicycles are compared to walking, even more with a load.

Be nice to him.

I think you're even more retarded because I wasn't talking about efficiency.

Retard.

You're underestimating how common bikes are.

It doesn't matter how common they are. No replacement parts means no bike. The longer it's been since the collapse the less parts will be available and rubber tires will dry out and be unusable unless kept in good conditions.

Punctures can be fixed easily. First off, you can take a tire off and change an innertube or even patch if even with a large puncture.
Second, modern day tubeless tires exist, you fill the tire with latex fluid which when punctured, will tell you there's a puncture and even seal up small punctures before too much air escapes.

For larger punctures, you can simply use a tubeless tire repair kit like pictured. Most modern car tires are the same, there's no innertube, they are tubeless and when a puncture happens you can fix it with a repair kit.

In fact a modern mountain bike would be perfect for the environment you're talking about, large knobby tires resistant to puncture and a puncture repair kit just in case. If you go get a puncture too large to repair with a tubeless repair strip, well you can just carry an innertube with you and put that inside the tire and inflate it until you can make a permanent repair.

Not true at all, especially considering a bike can move you a much larger distance than walking in a given time. You don't have to pound the pedals, you can barely put any energy into pedaling even a fully loaded bikepacking bike with 50 pounds of gear on the saddles and maintain 10mph without much effort except going up a hill.

Riding bikes makes you look really gay but not even in a way that gives you DEI points.

Yeah unlike guns which are super easy to pick up and yeehaw around with

Cool, what are those strips of jerky used for?

How many people will have repair kits? How long will a rubber innertube stay in usable condition? What you're talking about might be feasible in a TLOU setting in which the world ended a few years ago, but after a few decades all of your options are used up with no manufacturing.

You will never survive the apocalypse with that attitude

Yes, guns are incredibly easy to make with primitive tools. They have very few moving parts, some have none at all.

I prefer modes of transport that aren't running on hopes and dreams.

Yes, Ive never driven a car in my life before! How did you know? Its like you read me like an open book!

days gone is shit and only brown people suggested it when OP clearly mean bicycles

You put them into the opening on the metal tool so they're centered, then you push it into the puncture and pull out the metal tool, it basically seals it up almost permanently I've rode hundreds of miles on a puncture like that on a mountain bike before having to change it out for a new one.

they're very common actually, almost all big box shops especially auto parts stores will carry them and people won't be clamoring to find them in the apocalypse so most will stay untouched.

If bikes would be so clearly useful why wouldn't everyone be clamoring for them?

you've clearly never rode a bike

You've clearly never ridden on ten year old tires on broken asphalt.

because you would have to carry the bike half the time, are you all retarded?

Depends on how many people survive I guess, if it was 10% of the population there would be plenty of bikes. I mean just think about how ubiquitous bikes are in general, almost every family owns at least one bike in their garage not to mention bike shops that have hundreds of new bikes just sitting around.
There's other forms of transportation people would use far before they turned to bikes.

Before all the gas ran out / went bad, you would have people still using cars because it would be more efficient than a bike. It would only be months / years later when all of modern tech / civilization is no longer useful that you would have people going for bikes.

Bikes are better depending on the scenario though, much more quiet than a car so you can get around without attracting the attention of anyone that is hostile or looking to kill you.

Ah yes, primitive tools like crucibles, charcoal, metal alloying, and black powder.

Yes I have.

What for?

Then you know how bad of an idea that is, assuming the tires even hold air at all at that point.

Modern off road tiers are pretty durable.

because there's no way in hell a bicycle faggot survives in a post apocalyptic world

They definitely are, but the inner tubes aren't, and they don't last forever.

Condolences on your garbage opinions, saar

bro thinks all tires are racing tires

This, and it's really handy.

the fuck do you think's gonna happen when you try riding on it through the zone?

7 days to die does this it actually has a tier list of transport going bicycle->minibike->motorcycle->4x4 buggy->gyrocopter. The bike is the slowest and requires stamina but no fuel which all the others do

why are you niggers responding to that one retard whos ragebaiting?

Why don't people just wrap magazines around their limbs so they're bite-proof

Why don't people just use bicycles

Why don't people just hook a speaker up to a solar battery away from areas they want to clear to draw away all zombies

Why don't people just-

Because apocalyptic shit is just rule of cool power fantasy shit, you aren't actually supposed to use your brain. You could slam meth while growing tomatoes on a Walmart roof while sleeping in a thermal tent you drilled into a concrete wall and you'd be the first person to die because apocalyptic fiction rewards being an emotional retard that puts no thought into how to survive longer than a week. Actually I take it back, slamming the meth would somehow extend your lifespan and make you a proto-zombie or something equally gay. Fuck apocalypse shit, it's all pulp trash.

Bicycles are inherently gay

bikes are the perfect vehicle for survivors in the apocalypse. It's basically like walking but faster and you can carry more stuff

bikes are the perfect vehicle for survivors in the apocalypse.

*horses

woman talking about bicycles

actually talks about how hard/special being a woman is

I continue to hate them.

Horses look cool
Motorcycles can look cool
Bicycles look really really gay, and your cool post apoc complimentary duster jacket probably gets caught in the gears