Look Outside

I need confirmation about a precise issue to decide whether this game is shit or not so here I go:
Do you or do you not need the hamster to capture the visitor's footage in the security office in the basement?
I swear if this faggot dev made me play 8 hours for nothing because I gave away that gay rodent.. I didn't check guides, I asked one question about the landlord to see if it was worth doing the AIDS that warpartment was, but outside of that I did everything myself. Only to get blueballed at the end because I gave the hamster to a freak wearing a mask?
Can I at least bruteforce it by changing channel before using the tape, checking the ritual, reloading save if wrong, changing channel twice, recording using the tape, etc etc?
CAN I?

If the lamester is mandatory fuck you it's such a cheap trap to make sure players won't get the ritual and your game is shit.

Ten bucks thread will reach pg10 before some guy gives an answer because the last look outside thread went at a snail's pace and I'm sure 80% of the posts were made by shills from the dev team or friends of the dev.
You owe me 8 hours of my life cunt.

Yes, you need to save the rat then sacrifice one arm for it. After this you need to periodically feed the rat with blood or he will attack you.

Ok so if you gave away the hamster you're essentially fucked as the tv apparently has dozens of channels. Also I think the game tells you it's a bad idea anyway. You can still complete the game with 3 of the correct items but...

You definitely needed it, honestly unfortunate that the game lets you give it away before you have any hints that you'd need it. I don't know if the number of times you need to change the channel is randomized, or it's a trigger on transforming the hamster unfortunately. You could try brute forcing it, honestly with how ramshackle the codebase seems to be I wouldn't be surprised if it were hard coded. I remember it taking something on the order of ten channel changes when I did it.

I also fucked up doing the ritual, but I fortunately had a single save old enough before I gave the wrong stuff to Jasper. I wonder how hard it would be to cheat it in worst case, it's RPGMaker so presumably you could edit the save.

I'm not speaking about the fugly rat I'm talking about the caged hamster item.
I have no way to know which footage is the good one on the security camera before recording, so I take it the only living being you can carry in the game, the caged hamster, was to be used for this puzzle. Maybe. Probably. But because there's no written walkthrough and because I don't want to see major spoiler on youtube I have to ask there.

Forget about it I'm not save editing just to check out a ten minutes ending. I'm pissed because I had everything figured out and then the dev spits in your face like that. So I'll just watch on youtube. And yeah I BET it's hard tied to the hamster because rpg maker jank.
No.

I don't care about your replayability, that's for your braindead troon-friends hooked on speedruns and moronic shit like that.
Replaying your game ain't fun.
The sewer isn't fun.
The war isn't fun.
Fumbling with planet discs isn't fun.
I am not looking forward to redo all that shit for some different flavor texts from partners and a ten minute ending, so again, fuck you and fuck your hamster.
I know you're reading because you got nothing else to do and not a huge audience yet. So I know it. You're prying, checking all places of people are talking.
Fuck you

Honestly don't know why it's an option to give to that guy, I think it's the only way to dump it early without giving it to Jasper. Sucks that happened, sorry anon.

get yet another chance to play a game blind and get a unique playthrough, living with my choices and still being able to have fun all the way through

fags get angry because they spoiled themselves on the true ending

I am so terribly sorry for your loss.

The game warns you about it. Kill yourself, retard.

you can always detect secondaries like that

BUT THE UNIQUE PLAYTHROUGHERINO

it's rpg maker jankfest with lot of painfully bland dungeons, it's only good the first play because of the surprise and designs of monsters you FUCKTARD. Why would I play it again? Oh, some one dimensional fag's about to drop a one liner during dinner? Whao, can't wait to share that with my wife's bull!
So what's driving me to replay? The dogshit combats? Game's made to be playable with Sam alone so you rape everything in sight with party members. It's a bore mechanically.

No point to replay it.

None.

Nada.

Nothing.

Not in my version it didn't. Let me guess an update fixed this by having a warning before giving it to rapemask?
I hope the message was "WARNING FUCKFACE, YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET HIGHLY FUCKED AND A CAMPAIGN LONG MULTI LAYERS PUZZLE, ACTUALLY THE MAIN QUEST IN THE GAME, IS ABOUT TO TURN IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU DITCH THIS USELESS SHIT DROPLETS PRODUCING FURBALL"

hard mode can't come soon enough
i mean there has to be one at some point with a new ending if its possible

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Bros, be real with me. Is there a chance to save the retards that went to check the down part of the basement's pipes where the mushrooms are growing?
I found Roderigue and he was already consumed. FUCK!
I don't know how exactly I messed up to arrive in time. I don't know if there is a timer that starts from day 1 or if it starts from the moment I open the basement's door or when I enter the sewers.
IT'S ALL SO TIRESOME DAMMIT!

I still haven't beaten this, but it's a cool game
Also I agree that letting you give away key items for no reason is peak retardedness
Imagine if fear and hunger had a guy you could give the cube of the depths to

Ok I'm mad not as mad as when I made the thread, but I still feel like I've been tricked dirty. I don't mind a good ending slipping through my fingers if I missed something but that part with the hamster is just bullshit tier unfair so I can't get it out of my head man, I can't get it out OF MY HEAD I GOT FUCKED BY A HAMSTER I HOPE HE'S FLOATING UNDER HIS ROBE GETTING DISASSEMBLED AND FORCED TO LIVE AS A TWITCHING DISSECTION SUBJECT FOREVER

yeah I'm with you, cheap irreparable gotcha game-overs are lame

I got aroused when I first encountered this mask thing monster.

What a faggy melty. Vidya clearly isn't for you mate. Stick to your slop.

Yes, it's arbitrary fundamentally trial and error design. We've been there done that. These types of games have been made forever and are continuing to be made and even got a resurgence of relevance with fear and hunger. And because the average normie has no standard beyond "le epic dark story" or some shitty appealing character or monster designs (visual) they will continue to be made.

There's simply not much else to be said. It's unfortunate but it is what it is. I avoided this game like a plague because i had a feeling it was being hyped without the gameplay to back it up.

Unironically Termina is a better game, it always gives you an option to figure out even inspite of the obscure endings bullshit to pad shit out

The started development in October 2024 apparently, so clearly they dev knows how to get shit done. New content shouldn't be any issue, unless these fags just want to get to the next project.

Sorry about being honest maybe the dev needs an army of yes men instead to lead him off a cliff. Even "oh shit" bosses that got a warning message like "you feel like you should run away" got their shit pushed in by my team. Was playing it for anything but the gameplay.

the 'zomg run xdd' warning pissed me off so bad
i feel like it made people miss out on stuff for sure, while the enemies aren't even that bad

I agree. The warnings are useless most of the time. Unless you are alone, every single enemy would pose a big threat and you should avoid them. With a team, almost every monster is easy to kill, same with other humans.

omg hekkin RUN!!!!

kill the enemy in 2 turns and get rewarded instead

Pretty annoying honestly

Did anyone else have the Love Letter disappear out of their inventor after talking to Nestor and him saying he wouldn't take it?

He told me to tell the pipe girl that I couldn't find him, and now that quest line is stuck for me.

I haven't played the game but here's my opinion

nobody cares

in 2 turns

Well, not exactly. Some are like mini-bosses and they are hard to kill unless you have a good tank like Hellen. Not all companions are very useful. For example, the little girl Sophie only gits gud when she learns some of her abilities. Ambush is top ability in my opinion. Dan isn't too great. I was hyped for his healing ability but it gets useless pretty soon because when you reach Floor 1, him healing you or himself around 18 HP is not very useful.
A FUCKING CHICKEN SANDWICH HEALS MORE THAN Dan. LMAO
At least he can "cure" poison.

Secondaries are such fucking cancer and they're all like this.

Dan gives you extra defense with bless, I think it's valuable enough, I just had him carry a shotgun for if he was doing anything else (his damage skills are terrible, this is not a game for long turns)
I never felt the need for a tank like that, jump attack did a lot of damage for me, hellen did alright damage and mostly stacked bleed, and sophie would confuse and stun enemies

I disagree. I ride the vibe of the game, the designs ( funny to see someone frown at the visual aspects of a VIDEO game btw, stick to board games ), the tracks hit the same type of weirdness dressed in dread and horror garments as the more serious themes of Lisa but retain their own personality, the linear development of the layout opening progressively through the days work well as subtle bread crumbs to get you going in the right direction while still retaining a modicum of liberty, it's well done in all departments but two: it's too easy on normal mode ( all bosses done first try ) and the hamster thing is a backstab for anyone who's seriously dedicating his time and energy for a goal that was made unattainable hours ago by some inconspicuous choice.

I think it's very cool on a first playthrough, specifically because of how friendly the game is in terms of giving you these hints and make you avoid using too many resources to fight an enemy.
My issue is more that it makes it feel like the enemies should be nigh unbeatable, which is extremely rare with a full party. It'd be nicer if it said that more based on your level than just what type of enemy it is.

Balancing the game as it is with the random-ish introduced NPCs is nigh impossible, but after Fear and Hunger I find it refreshing to play a game that gives you more options to overcome adversity without having to dodge/cheese every enemy and boss

and the hamster thing is a backstab for anyone who's seriously dedicating his time and energy for a goal that was made unattainable hours ago by some inconspicuous choice.

That's not even the only instance of this either

don't fight the chase sequence? -1 friend

tell the kid the wrong thing in the teeth apartment? -1 friend

I just had him carry a shotgun

Dude, just give him the landlor's old army rifle. He gets aim shot with it and it only coses 2 STM. It has a good chance of a critical hit (around 100 HP). It's pretty good.
Btw, I forgot to say that the dev is a massive idiot. I had a rifle and bullets for it that I found early in the game. I haven't even reached Floor 1, I think and I still couldn't load them. I could equip the rifle but not load it. Then when I entered Eugene's shop days later I found he was selling 2 kinds of rifle ammunition and then I was really mad because I thought the game was bugged and that was the reason why I couldn't load my rifle. I had already sold the rifle and bullets.
That seriously pissed me off. The game has bugs and some are really annoying or there's stuff that is implied to be known already by the player but it isn't so obvious. AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE CROSSBOW! AAAAAAAAAH!

Meh that's not dramatic you get 6 billions friends even if you just sit at home.
I'm pissed about hamsters fuck them

I managed to basically perfect the ritual my first playthrough, lmao
The one thing I did notice is that to get more party members you need to be less sweaty and relax and play more videogames at your apartment to get more door events.
During my first playthrough I was basically going into the danger zone all the time and rolling over into the next morning exploring when really it's unnecessary unless youre speed running

don't fight the chase sequence?

What? Does this happen in floor 2? In floor 1? Is this related to the rats?
I want to know if I missed on something AGAIN.

Floor 2, the creepy door
And killing the rat king give you a crown that makes rats friendly and they give you things

breezing through basement area, can kill most enemies with basic attacks

trying to max out the EXP bonus meter because my party is so strong

go through entirety of basement

get to mushroom dungeon

do the whole thing

get to the end of the dungeon

"haha look at this funny dialog choice i'll pick this and see what happens"

instant game over

really? i lost like an hour of playtime

Floor 2, the creepy door

OMFG! It's impossible to kill that thing that chases Sam. At that point there's almost ZERO CHANCE that you'd have a companion or have a party tough enough to kill that massive boss.
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Just throw like 3 molotovs at it and it dies

protip you can kill every boss and enemy in the game with like 2 or 3 molotovs.

Oh, the thing about the rat king was easy to get. It also lets you skip every future rat battle. It was useful for when I entered that door with the disc I had to put in to enter. I got an odd necklace there that I still don't know what it is for.

buy the champion's belt from the store

wow, this is a perfect item to duplicate with my frederick reward

give it to him

it bugs out and I don't get another one

bravo

I have no idea why "backtrack to save" was even considered as a mechanic

plate+cleaver

molotovs

She goes down easy if you don't roll super poorly on the RNG but she should be the first thing you do all day so its no big time loss

At that time I didn't have any molotov. I think I had 1 acid flask max. I was really weak.
Spoiler your posts, anon.

This started development in October 2024

Holy shit fr?
That's actually fucking insane lmao i have never seen a game i can consider good be created in such a short amount of time

You can make like 4 molotovs before ever going to floor 2

Tranny creator

Pass

rng door visits mean you usually won't get companions that take multiple visits until like day 13, the discs are lame and gay, the entire sewer section is pointless and should be removed, and there's no reason for floor 1 to be some annoying looping dogshit. there's no special ending for being a murder hobo and killing literally everything and the astronomers.

Yes but you need 2 or 3 materials for it. I don't remember all the combinations but getting stuff for molotovs is hard. Making herbicides is even harder.

Yes but you need 2 or 3 materials for it

No, you need a rag and any alcohol or some of the chemical crafting materials, it's not hard to make

i thought it was fun when you were on the third floor since you could try to optimize your trips to get the most bonus EXP but it quickly becomes annoying after that. they should have put rest places on all the floors, or at least had a door that lead to your apartment on each floor (with the excuse that the apartment was shifting and somehow your apartment kept showing up)

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Again it's not a big deal since you're so OP by going cutlery only. I'm the type of drooling moron saving bullets in games and various expensive healing items so when I was facing the three astronomers who got sucked into the sky ( because the girl one didn't make it thanks to that stupid faggot hamster ) I had a hundred bullets. A hundred bullets I didn't even use against them because I thought something worse was coming down the road. And I used maybe one elixir.
There's a titan sized balance problem maybe it was fixed with the nerf but I doubt it.
And I got a chainsaw too. That I forgot to use because again, didn't want to waste my fuel. You're SS4 Goku fighting saibamen in this the visitor's lucky Sam isn't just closing his eyes, opening his window and blindly firing up.

Just bought this and I'm gonna start playing through it completely blind. What am I in store for Anon Babble?

just play it dude

Actually pretty fun and charming game, it has some good horror vibes and some genuinely unsettling areas, I enjoy it a lot
Get a party ASAP as enemies hit hard and turn advantage will rape you
There are ways to fuck yourself over from things but I won't spoil you on those
Also just play, like the other guy said, good luck. Don't be afraid to fight as you can always reload, but make sure you save.

I must have confused it with the tonic recipe maybe. I haven't paid much attention to crafting. I just make stuff that I have available but keeping in my every recipe is a hassle, just like the planet discs's moons for door combinations. That door with = sign in the basement messed with my head. I don't have a way to make both sides of the door have the same amount of moons combined unless I had 3 discs with 0 moons and using the negative disc as a cheating way, I believe.
Well, leaving that aside. Is there a way to save the guys that went to the mushroom kingdom? I arrived late and I don't know why or how.
I am stuck until i can solve this issue. I don't want to ruin my run more than it is.

Don't give the hamster to the stalker with a chihiro ghibli mask.

I don't know either, I've yet to replay it to try different things, sorry bro.

You have to be mega retarded to genuinely get the hamster end.

What would happen if you gave it the rat thing baby?
I dit it and nothing happened but I want to know if maybe the result is different according to other anon's playthrough.
Also, why would you give a KEY ITEM to that thing. The hamsters in in the key tab FOR A REASON, idiot.
I'm glad I was smart enough not to sacrifice my hamster unintentionally.

What a bummer. I will going on then.
Thanks anyways anon
Oops. I forgot to spoiler most of . My bad.

As far as I know the rat baby only exists to be a shitty party member and give you some companion interactions

The real question to be asked is how can we save Philippe?
I hoped putting him on the chair in the security office would reanimate him but you can't.
My drive for this quest to be completed and earth to be saved vanishes if we can't save him.

Good thing I gave it to that flesh mouth wall then. I wouldn't be a retard like some guy I watched that sacrificed one of his arms. I didn't have Joel so I don't know if I could've sacrificed him either, though I wouldn't. I pity that kid. :(

Philippe

I am in the basement but haven't progressed much so you just hit me with a big spoiler.

There's a lot of shit in that tab and I suspected it was going to be used to get a friend same way you befriend Joel with the teddy bear.
Not for it to be connected to the big main quest and optimal ending that's already asking you to jump through many hoops to get going. Because it can be given away during the first days it ensures you'll get perma fucked unless you make a new save every 30 minutes and keep the old ones, all of them, and be ready to redo 80% of the game if you did fuck up.

Having one arm just locks an equipment slot and for half the people including me it bugs out and lets you use it anyway, so whatever desu

Any chance the anon who made the Jeanne model will release it? I'd like it in .blend format if possible.

He's a big trustworthy and loyal friend

it bugs out and lets you use it anyway, so whatever desu

Considering how the game bugs sometimes, I wouldn't risk getting both limbs be unaccessible or something worse due to another bug.

I was just about to go to bed but I'm thinking after I finish this one and another I probably will. Which sites are best for this ie not dropbox?

I do have to fix the rig on her because it is 100% proper fucked to use.

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Anons, my game got bugged and I still keep Frederic's face in my inventory.
How can I craft a sexdoll with it?

So wait, you can give away the hamster? Never got that event.

Jeannita look! I asked wall Shenron to turn me into a little nugget haha!

Oh, hey fren. Try catbox.moe . Files last long, even years, and the limit is 200 MB. I assume since your models are lowpoly the filesize limit wouldn't be a problem.
Also, that Sam is looking way cool. He looks scared shitless. haha

No, the trapped people aren't real, it's bait for moralfag lunch.

Yes. There's a mask entity with arms hidden in its robes. In the third encounter it gives you something. It gave me a tongue. And you can thank him, refuse his gift or gift him something. Allegedly there's also a 4th event when it comes to your room, not just your apartment. That thing enters your room. I don't know much about it.
Also, every encounter with the mask entity is random. Try not to miss it because once I didn't save, then loaded my previous run and he wasn't there so it delayed my first encounter with it for a day or two.

It do bee doo bee doo retarded how you can't sit Sophie down on the chair, or put a mushroom on it. Those two options should also work, logically.

and the hamster thing is a backstab for anyone who's seriously dedicating his time and energy for a goal that was made unattainable hours ago by some inconspicuous choice

This is a problem mostly just because the game propells itself more on the idea that there's not much point in exploring if you aren't going for that main goal, so he really shoulda have avoided locking you out of it with early decisions.
If there were way more varied endings with multiple obvious goals, it would not be the same level of problem. Very unfortunate.

MANY THANKS! I didn't want to be involved in stupid drama like I've seen so often in Fear and Hunger.
I will now proceed and cause hell in the basement.

Sophie

put a mushroom on it

on it

implying a little girl is a thing

ISHIGGYDIGGY

inb4 slang used wrong

I just want to have fun.

Oh, that guy. Why would you give the key item to him again?

I dunno why but I didn't even consider the idea of giving it something in return

The main issue and simplest solution is to allow more answers to that situation than a single item. Like said, there are other options that would logically work.

Me too honestly, as I had given it a gift before, I felt like it was just giving me something in return.

Can't wait to see him hold jeanne's hand in glorious 3d

Oh, that guy. Why would you give the key item to him again?

Some anons probably thought it would be fun to get rid of the hamster. I admit it's pretty funny but locking yourself out of endings because of such a silly event is even funnier because that cute animal is in the key tab.
The game rewards you for trying stupid shit but some anons take it to the next level.

implying a little girl is a thing

That part would be a unique dialogue option if interacting with the chair with Sophie in your party, obviously. She's not an item in your inventory like the mushroom.
I was also thinking of suggesting the tongue, but it's dead, and I don't think you can use dead things.
Oh, you know what, the rose you get from shadow thing could also be an option!

Yeah, you can also sit Hellen or the roaches down cause they already looked.

I gave the entity my cum and it thanked me. Lyle was jealous too but that faggot won't get any of this. I am Sybil or Jeanne exclusive only

Ooh nice! Thanks anon.
I can't open Blender to check it right now because I'm playing the game so I'll let you know later or in next thread if I find any major errors with it.
Also, thanks for putting the textures separate. I like looking at them from outside.
lol

hi hello, im the video games man. you shouldnt be able to give the guinea pig away to the mask guy anymore. Im pretty sure I removed that on the first update like two weeks ago? If youre still using an old build you should be able to paste code in the console with f12, the command to get the pig back would be $gameParty.gainItem($dataItems[334], 1);

psychos immediately jump to mindfucking the little girl

GIVE ME MOTHBRO

Getting the guinea pig back using a command is like Sam getting reversed from becoming a fractal to a human. It's so hilarious to me for such a stupid reason I am not sure of. kek
Thanks dev. I hope you fix the problem with the rifle being confusing too and not being able to load it.

I didn't suggest them or Joel because already having looked I guess means they won't mutate. But you know what, Joel, Hellen, and anyone who is mutated could presumably just look and tell you when it's not generic security footage. Fallout 3 ending situation again.

Joel didn't look.

can sacrifice a baby to a hole in the wall for a planetary disc

can't sacrifice a snotling to the TV to complete the perfect ritual

Didn't know the dev supported post-term abortion like that...

interacting with the chair with Sophie in your party

I have Sophie in my party. Tell me what I should not do to not fuck up my run, please. Avoid the most spoilers you can if possible.
I am still in the entrace to the mushroom kingdom.

I know, I just didn't bother reformatting the sentence when I wrote it. Although, it is fair, we don't know if infection-mutants looking outside mutates them further or not.

He should let us sacrifice anyone for fun boss fights.

It was a suggestion for an alternative option, anon.
It's not actually something you can do. The dev is racist so he's fine with you killing the rat baby, but Sophie is a brownoid mutt, so she's sacred and can't be sacrificed either to the wall or the chair. Should also be an option at the wall, honestly.

You're the dev like actually? Huh cool to see you directly address something people are complaining about here
Neat

Joel got bitten on the nose by his baby sister. He was the least fucked up of the tooth family for that reason. He only got 1 bite allegedly.
I seriously don't get why a bite does that considering that later on a man that was bitten by a tooth monster and appeared on my porch then told me to give him something to cure it. I was confused because that thing is clearly uncurable so I tried every single medical item I had, even a medkit and it didn't work so I killed him and then loaded my previous save to get another visitor.

My logic is that Sophie is too young to know better, but someone like Papaineu would refuse because he knows it's dangerous.
Following that, having anyone who would deny in your party should also lead to them going hostile if you try to use Sophie, they say you shouldn't, and you do it anyway. I guess except the couple since they're assholes anyway, they'd probably dap you up for using Sophie.

Would the wall accept giant teeth baby?

It was a suggestion for an alternative option, anon.

Oh, alright then. I was worrying for nothing.

The dev is racist so he's fine with you killing the rat baby, but Sophie is a brownoid mutt,

I don't know what races have to do with the game. Why would you care about what a human looks like in the game where everything turns into monstruous figures? I mean, Dan sure looked like a monster but I let him in and he's chill. He's an asshole but he's chill.

It asks for a child but only accepts Boss Baby Rat, fucking bullshit I tell you. There are two other children you can be dragging around with you at any time!

I like how he's an absolute reprobate and he hasn't even looked outside
Funny bit

I'm assuming that man mutates offscreen after the event.

That baby monster is too big

inb4 for u

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Didn't know the dev supported post-term abortion like that...

hole in the wall is the abandoned baby disposal chute that's standard in every building

He only wants babies...and arms, anon.

The game showers you will consumable attack items. The difficulty comes from the amount of bodies you have to toss items. Even weaker characters like Sophie and Joel can chuck shit. The two hardest bosses melt to acid flasks and if you're willing to give up some herbicide you can make like 12 in total in the game. If you save up enough cash to buy the high caliber rifle or gatling gun you can trash the final boss in 2-3 turns.

You schizos are onto something. Your Anon Babble views sometimes make sense to me like this case right now and that is no good.

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I think it's nice how guns in this are actually powerful.
It is however gay beyond measure that you can't use vidya in your apartment to teach Joel and Sophie how to use them.

to buy the high caliber rifle

Holy fuck! So I was right. I remember I saved before attacking the giant tooth baby and I had the rifle equipped to Sam and loaded, then escaped the fight and loaded my save and the rifle became equippable but unloadable.
So I wasn't imagining things, it was a real bug.

I think not having the kids use most weapons was a cute choice.
Woulda been fun if they refused whiskey and vodka too.

There was some bug I encountered where I was able to unequip the teddy from Joel and somehow put it on Sam. The game wouldn't let me unequip it from Sam until I had a two handed firearm and use the optimized command.