How dead is it?

Wrath classic was a ghost town from Ulduar onwards

MMOs in 2025

Give it up people. The next huge MMO that everyone is dreaming of will never happen.

Played Anni p1-2, it was fun. Waiting to play MoP arenas, then I'll do Legion one more time, then I'm done with WoW forever.
For sure this time.

They're just going to rush through WoD in 6-8 months. It had good content, just not enough.

They're not going to call it quits after MoP when re-releasing Legion is free money. After that they're probably done though.

WoW2 announcement with every woman and faggot employee getting publicly beheaded in the Blizzard parking lot would be pretty hype.

nobody said MoP was going to "turn it all around"
just that it's something a lot of people are looking forward to

I still can't believe they shut down wotlk classic for this. They must have wanted it to die.

Classic doesnt matter, the mazed rats only want "new content" so they can rush to clear it and get BiS then raidlog.

nothing wrong with raidlogging
I enjoy classic BECAUSE you can reach a point where you are "finished" with the current content and can just chill and raidlog or level alts
you can play the game at your own pace

I just want to tend to my farm and fish with my pals in Krasarang.

Raidlogging in wrath onwards isn't the comfy raidlogging. It's playing solely to speedrun the raid and then spend rest of the week complaining on the forums about next patch being too slow to release.

I'm starting to think these numbers are a complete lie because even peak raiding times on the most popular server it is completely fucking dead

"Ulduar was the best patch" is a common opinion fans have

You know what we should do? Make Ulduar a mandatory raid for EIGHT FUCKING MONTHS

Blizzard is so retarded it hurts.

it looks at raidlogs and arena ladders for individual characters, so everyone thats not raiding/arena (or simply not logging) isnt in there

The real reason they killed wrath classic was because a single GDKP heroic ICC with good drops could payout 3 months worth of WoW tokens

who else in TBC waiting room?

Nah, it seems right. Consider that anyone still playing cata probably has like 3 max level characters they raidlog with.
So assuming everyone is raidlogging with 2-5 characters, that's anywhere between 20k to 50k actual players.
And the reason you see no one in the world is because no one is in the world. They teleport to instance, clear the raid, go back to the AH to buy more consumables then logout.

who here hyped for battle of azeroth classic?

Give it up people

like you?

why not just ban GDKPs then

This was the gayest shit aside from the actual faggots. Muh sensitive troll boy get the fuck out of here and don't stand next to Suarfang nigger.

anon is so shit at the game that he prog'd ulduar for 8 months

luh mao

No anon, they buffed ilvls for ulduar so you had to raidlog ulduar during TotC patch because a quarter of your BIS lists were off the last 5 bosses in Ulduar and it was fucking boring doing the same raid for eight months because your raid group was that unlucky

we had 5 valanyrs
people still needed chase items
there was simply nothing better to do

Wrath wasn't even a good expansion. We all just had a soft spot because it was the peak of wow before everything went downhill.

Oh yeah, Val'anyr got its ilvl buffed generously, so it was BIS for paladins and shaman for the entire expansion.

It was a pretty good expansion that ties up the loose ends of WC3 and everything afterwards is kind of dull in comparison because WoW didn't have any other major villains that you cared as much about as Arthas. Personally, 15-year-old me was incredibly upset that Ner'zhul was killed offscreen in a fucking book.

everyone runs multiple characters
raidlogs can and in fact are recorded by more than 1 guy in a raid
you cna divide log number by 10 at the very least to get real player numbers

this
classic > tbc >> wrath
ulduar was the last good raid, toc was garbage and icc just another naxx but harder

it will happen but probably vr
tech isnt there yet

our guild's filling 25m raids every week and only needing like 1-2 pugs tops to replace occasional scratches so apparently not very

Me.

Also just saying this for all anons in this thread.

GDKPS ARE A GOOD THING AND RIGHT NOW ANNIVERSARY IS KINDA DOGSHIT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THEM AND SOD IS STRAIGHT UP DEAD.

I'm not sure if it's impressive on Blizzard's part or just highlights how absolutely buck broken and pathetic WoW players are that they not only celebrate getting old content released but still pay a sub fee to go through it all again.

I would pay double Blizzard's sub fee to play on a private server that kept the third-worlders out

bro I can't wait to get stuck in an MMO like .hack or Sword Art Online even though it's literally just a fucking headset bro

i've honestly gone and looped around to gdkp being a good thing cause every other loot system has fucked me one way or another
rmt and botting be damned
not like blizzard was going to do a single thing about it either way

It was the expansion I had the most fun in and that's all that matters

GDKPs are based as long as no RMT is involved.
I played on a low-med pop server in classic and GDKPs were the only way I was able to consistently gear up. Even if you go into one as a poorfag, a few lockouts and you'll have enough gold to buy tier pieces. Whereas you could raid in a loot council/SR guild for a two months and maybe get two pieces on average.

unironically might see what mop was about since i quit middle of cata (molten front, didn't even kill rag)
people seem to suck it off here and there

Best part of mop was timeless isles gaining and faction wars.

Any chance of the pre-patch going live sometime next month?
That's what I'm waiting on before I commit to subbing.

run SR

the boss that your SR dies and you've lost all future investment in the run knowing you can't win anything else good because someone SR'd everything else you'd want

everyone takes the first wipe as an excuse to leave, and their replacements now SR the other items that aren't covered by the previous raid members so now you're doubly fucked out of loot

vs

run GDKP

the boss that your big ticket item didn't drop, but you're still invested because another item dropped that's going to result in a bigger pay out

you stay until the raid's completion because you are going to make gold no matter what and people are encouraged to try hard and use consumes if there's a bonus to highest ranged/melee dps

Calm down Zhang Wei

I feel like guild-based GDKP should be more of a thing. The problem with GDKP are the RMT whales which could easily be filtered out of a guild.
I remember back in OG wrath there were a few guilds like that, but I've not seen it anywhere in classic, it's all just PUGs.

Based because right now on anniversary a fucking shitty elixir is like 20-30g (because overworld is so highly contested) and sod immediately died the moment they stopped having gdkps being allowed.

trvke

my friend joined a wrath GDKP guild and there was a 5% rake to the guild bank that got evenly distributed amongst members at the end of each phase so he was dropped 100k gold going into the following phase

They may as well call it "Classic" retail, jesus this sounds fucking terrible. These classic faggots became the thing they hated most.

I would play $100 a month just to keep poorfags, turdies, and bots off of my fucking server.

Yep, it is pure cancer. People only care about 'new' content being released asap so they can race to get best in slot to show off in class discords and 'theorycraft' whatever the newest cheese is.

Those losers lost all credibility the moment they happily accepted the Chronoboon Displacer

This is a reminder that the Guild Wars 2 mogs the World Of Warcraft!

sorry everything started going down hill when they introduced 2 factions and PVP instead of just having starting zones for every race and focusing on an online PVE experience. Burning crusade sealed the deal because the devs admit openly to "hearing everyones" opinions on forums which represented about 1-3% of the player base of the original 4million of vanilla yet 100% of the whiniest min-maxing faggots put on earth.

this
it's finally, unequivocally, unironically, literally, over

GDKP should be more of a thing

wrong. please kill yourself and the gold sellers who milk your dumb ass.

and then check actual logs
majority of raids are done on alts with majority of these raids being gdkp aka literal p2w raids/ RMT laudering scheme. You can get 85 online in 2 days
if you check non-gdkp pugs, there's maybe 1-2 shitty one per 10gdkps, while good pugs are actual semi-guilds/regulars pretending they're not guild
to go further, after wotlk majority of competetive guild stopped playing/disbanded, you can compare classic/tbc even wotlk logs and guild with cata
the actual alive playerbase sits in SoD and anniversary, despite ironforge saying that cata have bigger numbers, there's a shitton of people in capital and open world compared to cata
only plebbitors think cata is the most popular because 22 alts of a gdkp host selling gold for a living counts as 22 players for them

Mop may do better. There’s a general consensus that mop was an underrated gem, whereas cata was praised quite a bit but it seems a lot of people may have realized it was nostalgia and cata wasn’t as good as everyone claimed it was.

sod died

you can do every raid from mc to scarlet in a single day if you have time, every day on diffirent character
outside newest questline, sod have a great design with how much you need to spend to aid and how much you can farm yourself, so unless you're a dadgamer with 1h playtime per week there's no need to swipe like reatd

I really think Isle of Thunder is MoPs only good patch. Maybe an accelerated SoO will be good but I doubt it.

how's GW2?
if you said GW sure, but GW2? how many xpacs it took to be tolerable? stopped when game was infested with sparklecats and trannoids so around 1st xpac

Gonna be genuine here, as someone who was fucking obsessed with arthas and the LK. I actually still think MoP was my favorite xpac hands down with legion following after bc and LK. They retconned so much about arthas that it’s hard to ignore and think it was kinda shit idea to do. Even worse is they were too afraid to actually pull the trigger so they forced a Bolvar swerve, which was obviously a cash grab thing in case they ever needed to break the lich king glass.

a cash grab thing in case they ever needed to break the lich king glass

And what a disaster that was.

Generals belong on faggot

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The Guild Wars 2 has matured so much since the Path Of Fire expansion got released! In other words, the Guild Wars 2 is absolutely flawless nowadays!

rerelease the xpac that killed the game

it dies

wwwoooowwwwwwwwwww

Only one more expansion that killed the game though and we get to the expansion that almost saved the game. I'll be shocked if they continue to BFA classic though.

Only friends I have that want to play wow want to play retail

Is epic sar, please buy gdkp sar!
Mop soon sar! You like mop sar!! Panda woman saaaar!!!!

Wow has gone on too long. There should have been a wow 2 after legion and wow should have just started looping/ keeping up legacy servers. Ever expansion after legion feels wrong like the game has completely lost is everything unique about it and its community has completely abandoned it being replaced by annoying try hards that love fighting bosses that are impossible to beat with the aid of an obnoxious addon.

GDKPS ARE A GOOD THING

rofl

not touching WoW again until legion classic, only good xpac

cata classic

LMAO

GW2

i quit that shit faster than fucking FF14 1.0

god I wish sylvanas impaled this basednigger on a pike.

Playing a holy paladin and it's kino. I really liked T11, didn't like Firelands, and DS is pretty good but not as good as T11. Overall 7.5/10 expansion

cata killed grobbulus and there are no anniversary realms to replace it. blizzard are just so stupid and out of touch