Tells Kratos to kill Ares

I hate this asspull because "Zeus being paranoid like Cronus" made perfect sense. GoW3's reason makes it seem like Zeus was actually good.

Ares teleported his family to the village he was waging war on

Not him but I think she was trying to leash in Kratos for her own gain until she couldn’t, died for genuine causes, but then became a greedy retard because she was able to cheat death. There’s no real reason why she would assume she could resurrect herself.

athena

dead

She's just simply lacking in the corporeal at the moment. Just a slight inconvenience.

Blame Cory Barlog, he had to retcon GoW1's ending.

What makes it worse is that you are never told what evil possesses each god. Poisidon actually seemed decent still, what evil did he have?

the vices of the box went to whomever held that vice inside them already.
Zeus was ALREADY paranoid, so paranoia found a home in him.

Zeus being paranoid like Cronus" made perfect sense

It doesn't at all he has dozens of kids and actively assisted many of them well into adulthood. Hell, you could even go as far to say he was specifically fishing for an heir potentially stronger than him like Hercules. If it were explicitly early in his reign then maybe but Zeus was just and good within reason, him needing to be plagued by fear before arbitrarily attacking someone he intentionally emboldened is far better than him doing it of his right mind.

still the best song in the series

youtube.com/watch?v=OC1SkK5BO6E

1) Cycle of Patricide is a constant and Zeus is well aware of it
2) It was prophecized by the cycle and the marked warrior stuff, so the things had to be set in motion one way or another
3) Kratos was acting like a complete dick to the gods out of spite and had to be made into an example
4) Zeus was an evil paranoid fuck (The entire Deimos incident and Callisto getting cursed, for example)
5) Zeus is really into betrayal (Gaia being the biggest example)
6) The meme box that does not change shit in the grand scheme of things because all of the above happened both before it was open and before even conceived by the writers.
TLDR Zeus was a dick. Simple as that.

KRATOS POTTER DID YOU PUT YOUR BROTHER ARES IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE

GoW3's reason makes it seem like Zeus was actually good

Except we had like 3-4 games before it that explicitly showed that he was a dick long before the box.

He had anger it seems. He is a pretty pissed off god in the Homer epics and it would ring true here if they drew inspiration from that.
And despite that he recognizes that Zeus is severely fucked up and that Zeus’ resistance to popping the box open for their own gain might implicate that the fear inside Zeus might be an entity itself since the assumed hope inside would hurt the fear.

Am I misremembering or did in 2 Athena warns Kratos that he's being a dick and Zeus is mad at him and then 5 minutes later he instantly trusts Zeus and puts his power in the sword

Did you forget about the Gravedigger?

Wasn’t there some vow thing that Gods couldn’t strike each other down in GOW1?
If that’s right I would assume it’s just making sure that he wouldn’t need to do anything while Kratos got the brunt of it. I even thought that Zeus tricking Kratos into depositing his godhood into the sword was a way to get around that rule since Kratos would technically be mortal again.

Do you honestly think there's anyone on this board aside from an odd eleven or so anons that played the originals?

The original trilogy? Yes.

The PSP games? No.

It doesn't at all he has dozens of kids and actively assisted many of them well into adulthood.

You should read Athena's creation myth. Zeus receives a prophecy that his next son will usurp him as he did Cronos and in trying to prevent the son from being born the would-be son ends up becoming Athena instead.

If you are talking about GoW1 - Ares was a bigger problem on his hands at that moment.
In Ghost of Sparta he tries to tell Kratos to fuck off from rescuing Deimos, tells Kratos he's a fuckhead in a roundabout way at the very end after Deimos dies, and the entire game's story is set in motion by him being a paranoid fuck with the entire Deimos incident in the first place. Or did you forget about that?

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Genuinely, do this world a favor and kill yourself

Zeus went apeshit because Kratos immediately started doing the same shit as Ares since Kratos was ass blasted that none of the gods respected him since he was a nepobaby.

Yeah she warns Kratos that nobody is happy with his fucking baby tantrum yet he continues anyway. The weird thing is that Kratos even says it’s weird Zeus is suddenly helping him but he just goes along with it because he assumes it was Athena betraying him.

gets ordered to kill Ares because he's going around destroying cities

goes around and destroys cities once he becomes the god of war

OLYMPUS BETRAYED ME

lol

You are petty and pathetic, and your post is weak.

Hey this is the village I'm from

Retard tourist anon

I'm playing through them right now.
Chains was fine. Disappointing that Morpheus never actually shows up because the spooky nightmare fog was a cool plot point and then you just suddenly get dumped into Tartarus and it's never really relevant again. Really enjoying Ghost of Sparta way more.
On the topic is Ascension worth checking out? I vaguely remember playing like a demo or beta test of the PvP mode back in the day but I know next to nothing about it beyond that.

If you get ascension try to get the pre-patch version. There's a elevator level that was so challenging it had to get nerfed!

He is also 100% correct

remember thinking kratos being zeus's son was a later idea

emulate the first game last year

right there in the fucking opening before he goes off the cliff the chorus is going

"KRAATTOOOS... SON OF ZEUUUS..."

becomes the god of war

wages war

NOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT

Honestly, Zeus and the pantheon just set themselves on that shit. Making Kratos the new God of War to spite him for his past sins and to fill the seat was a horrible problem of their own making.

Ascension is awkward in that it would have the best Blades gameplay if there wasn’t some progression system attached to the blades themselves. Effectively you are spending a good few seconds trying to unlock your move pool in every fight and your Blade magic is attached to that system in such a way that you will have to regrind to get the move pool back every time you use it.
There is also no secondary weapon. Just four varieties of the blades that hardly feel different from each other.
And for the love of god emulate it. It’s not worth the time otherwise.
The plot is basically “what if you played Kratos with the mentality before the incident with his family” and how that conflicts with the themes of the latter games. Nothing spectacular itself but it’s an interesting perspective, it’s just a shame that Chains ending sequence would have worked wonderfully here if that game didn’t exist.

It wasn't out of spite. It was the greatest reward they could have given.

Zeus probably thought Kratos would kill him like he did to his father, so he tried to kill him first which ended up making Kratos kill Zeus.

maybe from their perspective, but with the retroactive nature of pandora's box in mind, perhaps it was also just an extreme consideration on their end they wouldn't have made normally either. dude just wanted to die or find some sort of peace, he was expecting to come out of the journey either gone or absolved. it's not much wonder that their "reward", without even a proper absolution of his nightmares and sins, just made him do exactly what they didn't want him to.

ANCIENT GODS

NO SENSE OF RIGHT AND WRONG

Should this plot point be adressed in future games? Nah, we better have Kratos going to therapy instead!

I fucking hate modern writers

Kek. This series does seem to love its random difficulty spikes.
Sounds very weird but kind of interesting. I guess I'll give it a fair shake when I'm done with the rest, out of curiosity if nothing else.

My bastard son is feeling down and trying to kill himself.

Giving him the throne of my other kid, the one he just murdered, would cheer him up!

What the fuck? He's doing the same thing that other one did.

All Zeus had to do was give Kratos a hug

See, you misunderstand them
At no point were they approaching the franchise with the intent to respect it for what it was but to shape it into something that mocked anybody who appreciated it previously for any reason
They never had any good faith to begin with

playing god of war 1 for the first time

get to Kratos’ psyche sequence fight where he has to fight himself off to protect his family

zeus’ wrath divine starts playing

the temple obliterates itself into pieces as the chorus picks up their chanting

spamming magic like a fucking maniac to kill the hoard

trying to hug his family to keep them alive in that chaos

and despite that its his own blades that kills them again

Probably one of the best sequences I’ve played in video games. To see this monster so desperate to protect his loved ones is just extremely intriguing to me. I honestly still can’t get over it.

He is but a man, and no man is born a monster. For the monsters we find are of our own making.

Kratos opened Pandora's box which corrupted the gods with different evils.

intense thumb and index finger workout

brutally murder every figure from greek mythology

i am the god of war

That part is crazy on the harder modes.

but to shape it into something that mocked anybody who appreciated it previously for any reason

meds

died atleast 20 times in that part, and that was on normal mode. that game has no mercy as far as difficulty scaling goes.

It's so fucked how they made the best sequence of the series with Kratos encountering Athena right before getting the blades of chaos back, and then they made Ragnarok.
Straight up felt betrayed.

kratos was being a huge piece of shit at the beginning of the game, zeus was completely justified in killing him after kratos ignored athena's warning to stop ransacking greece for the spartans.

"No offense but you killed and destroy your homeland and we rather not have you here around us. Could you leave?"

kills them all for no reason

we must be better or something

Be better men

HOW DARE THEY

tl note: "better men" in this circumstance means being a cuck who can't even jump

Kratos is the bad guy

It was the greatest reward they could have given

No, the greatest reward would be to give him back his family, if that was impossible, then the actual greatest reward would be to free him of his nightmares but they pulled a "that's not what the small print says on the contract bucko :^)" on him

Zeus was just a power tripping asshole, there was no rhyme or reason to anything he did

Yeah fuck yeah men are all about accountability and growth unlike wahman

WTF DID THIS GAME JUST TELL ME I NEED TO DO BETTER FUCK THAT NOISE

knee jerk sama

Describe how the game intends for you to improve, in what manners are you lacking?

Idk bro I'm just jerkin your chain

What did Zeus expect the God of War to do?

Hell, why does Zeus even have a position called "God of War" on Olympus?

sounded cool in his head at the time

maintain harmony in one of the primal elements of existence.

lol this

Orestes, your mother murdered your father. In the name of honor you have to kill her and avenge him or his spirit will never know rest and the gods will look down on you

ORESTES WHAT HAVE YOU DONE YOU KILLED YOUR OWN MOTHER AND GONE AGAINST THE RULES OF THE GODS NOW YOU WILL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT BY THE KINDLY ONES YOU CHUD

torture her son for years

some random psycho kill her son

start sucking the cock of the guy who killed her son a week later

are females really this unhinged?

What did Zeus expect the God of War to do?

To not immediately favor the city he originated from and abuse his godhood to personally stomp out poor regular dudes who had literally no recourse but to pray for another divine conflict. He had the power to mitigate wars to at least be less brutal than the thracian barbarian shit he fought in, to maybe make the world more civilized with less gross loss of life.
Or maybe just sit in his brooding chair until he's needed to stomp out some titan or big ass monster when they get uppity

Greek Mythology be like that

Based on the opening of GoW2, Kratos was an out-of-control mad dog who was just as bad as Ares, maybe worse. I know that GoW3 retconned some Pandora's Box evil energy shit or whatever to make everyone not look like such evil assholes by choice, but I'm not buying it.

It's really one of the PSP games, Ghost of Sparda, that set him off with a retcon. Dude had a brother that Ares and Athena kidnapped and got killed because they had a prophecy about a "marked warrior" that would doom Olympus, and this is between GoW1 and 2 so it basically gave Kratos incentive to just start spiting the Gods after they screwed him yet again. Turns out the ashes of his family on his skin thanks to Ares made him the marked warrior all along.
Honestly really unnecessary. The shit they did to him in the first game alone was good enough incentive.

It literally all could've been avoided if they just gave Kratos amnesia or whatever shit he wanted at the end of GoW1 and washed their hands of him just like that. Instead of being dicks with that "exact words" shit for no reason, but that's greek mythology for you I guess.

In hindsight, that's actually kind of an interesting dynamic. In a way, Freya is doing the same shit that OG Kratos did during the Greek games; directing all her anger at some external entity that she can attach all the blame to, rather than facing up to the fact that all that shit was ultimately her fault, well-intended or not.

There's an interesting story hidden somewhere in Ragnarok, it is just way too goddamn long and meandering, and aside from the general spectacle and presentation, I will never understand all the praise that was heaped on it.

The Pandora Box evils plot line was so stupid. Zeus and the other Olympians were arguably more evil prior to the box opening as the PSP prequels and Ascension show them to be the kind of gods people would only worship out of fear. At least after the box was opened Zeus actually tries to have a conversation a couple times.

And Athena was standing outside in the form of an old woman to conveniently say the one thing that would make Kratos barge in and start slaughtering mindlessly. She was also there to fuse the ashes to his skin. Athena is a turbo cunt in the original games, and it is amazing how many people miss it.

The old crone was supposed to be Athena? I never made that connection, unless I just forgot something. I haven't played the OG games since before '18 was about to come out.

That wasn't Athena.