An Early Warning Flag For Bungie’s ‘Marathon’ Prospects

I’ve been up and down with my thoughts on Marathon, Bungie’s new extraction shooter currently in its Closed Alpha. I’m not an extraction player at all, but I’ve had some good runs and some bad runs. Sticking around for the long term though remains a tough prospect to see.

But I think there may be a shorter-term problem, one that has implications for its actual launch. And I’m a bit concerned about it.

Tracking the playercount of the Closed Alpha on Steam, I’m noticing something. No, I don’t care about the actual numbers at this point. This is a Closed Alpha. We know probably 80%+ of code applications have been denied. It’s too early to extrapolate things like Open Beta or launch figures that will arrive in the coming months.

But what I’m noticing is the trendline. The peak at launch is an obvious spike, up to 7K (though again, the specific number doesn’t matter). However, Thursday night dropped to less than half that. Then, as the weekend has started, Friday night lost more players, and the game is approaching less than a third of its initial players on launch day after just 72 hours. If this is the case for Saturday and Sunday night, that’s not great.

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ban steam charts threads

this is an article written by forbes thoughbeit

forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/04/26/an-early-warning-flag-for-bungies-marathon-prospects/

There are two other things to consider here. First, this is happening as new players are being issued codes. So more players are being let into the Alpha with at least another big code wave having gone out, but the declines still exist. Second, if you are interested enough in Marathon to apply for a code in the first place, you are probably more prone to appreciate it than the average consumer. But if interest is dropping off in time this quickly with that group…

You could use Twitch metrics here as well, as those have also dropped dramatically from launch day when a bunch of huge streamers were playing, but I find those less reliable as they fluctuate heavily based on who is online, and a big streamer or three can produce dramatic swings. But these overall trendlines are more relevant. Ideally you’d want them to stay consistent or even increase as more codes go out and the weekend progresses.

I am not saying that based on 72 hours of a Closed Alpha that Marathon is going to be a big miss. But I feel like I would be remiss to avoid saying that this is not an ideal thing to see if this is in fact representative of short-term player interest, as that has implications for both launch and long-term interest when the game launches.

This is a Closed Alpha. There is more to be added to the game by launch, there are balance patches and there is polishing to do. It is likely that the final product is more attractive and results in more interest (albeit by then you’ll have to pay for it). But the core concepts of Marathon are not changing, and the question is whether or not that will capture fans’ interest once they get their hands on it.

Update: The Saturday night peak has again fallen down from 2,500 to 1,800, indicating that this trend is continuing.

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make game with ugly characters

it flops

woah, who could have guessed..

Even if they looked decent, its online slop.
No one will play your clone of the successful game because people are playing the successful game instead, where all their online friends and shit they paid money for is.
There's basically zero inertia until the popular game does a MASSIVE fuck up that make people move to another game.

I can't even get in their playtest..

Game looks like shit

this is literally what ive been saying on here too. does forbes read Anon Babble?

Not reading all that
Who gives a shit about player counts for a closed alpha

The fact that they've bumped up the number of Alpha codes they're putting out tells me everything I need to know

Who gives a shit about player counts for a closed alpha

players losing interest within a day doesnt mean anything

the article literally explains why you are stupid and concord is going to flop

concord

obviously i meant marathon. see? im even getting these two flops mixed up, thats how similar they are.

Because the point is that it has lost players, not that it has low players. Something you'd know if you bothered reading "all that" which takes 15 seconds to read.

I wouldn't say they are ugly like a Concord. They are just generic. Nobody wants to look generic when they play a shooter.

Wider media is slowly but surely catching onto the fact that steamchart metrics are basically the only usable, non abusable source on the levels of player engagement. Happened with Schreier trying to use them, utterly failing to read them properly, then deleting his stupid tweet out of embarassment.
Outside of steamcharts, all the other metrics are either hidden from you by studios, or can be obsuficated to an absurd degree, like calling everything on gamepass a success until 4-5 months later when a studio mysteriously gets folded or half the devs get sacked. Or Ubisoft where they refuse to provide actual sale numbers until the next investor meeting where they get raped yet again.

Did this journo not get the memo? Talking about player numbers in a negative way is VERBOTEN, all they're allowed to do is post about how wonderful the game is doing and how it's the biggest Marathon series release on Steam EVER!

ITS SIMPLE AS THAT.

they don't have to necessary be hot, but they have to be good looking and cool.

they look like shit, the world and architecture, while artistic, is jarring and far too unreal/clashing.

having fucking bright neon green on ruby red and puke green on purple everywhere is fucking garrish.

they are very artistic and avante'gard but they are fucking garish and off-putting.

characters like this only work after the setting properly "lowers you into" their thematics, it doesn't work when its literally the only characters you have or will ever see.

Things must be pretty bad if Paul Tassi is doomposting about Marathon before it has released.

marathon is a return to form for bungie

I don't really understand who they thought their audience was. I don't play Bungie slop because I'm not retarded, but I can understand how Halo has appealing designs. Destiny looks awful, but I guess 12 year old boys could find it cool?

This shit? Who was the target market? It's ugly and dull looking. The genre was played out a decade ago.

its simple, nothing about Marathon pushes Leftwing ideals or politics.

if there were Troons or Blacks he'd be there to defend it, because its implicit in Leftwing circles that you do.

make game with unappealing characters

have zero attractive characters

your game fails

blame chuds

im so tired bros

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The game looks appealing enough to me, but I’ve never played an extraction shooter and it doesn’t sound like something I’d enjoy. I’d give it a try for free.

Destiny isn't cool to young kids, it was aimed entirely at fans of Halo and the show Firefly and then subsequently ruined it by loading it with garbage, doleing out the slowest content drip ever, and slatering on Gay shit every five seconds.

Cool setting, decent gunplay, awful story, awful content.

Marathon however is made for no one, its simply Mandated to exist by Higherups in Sony/Bungie to try and chase a trend.

the most soulles slop mankind has to offer

Why the fuck are they trying to charge 40 bucks for something as inherently niche as an extraction shooter? Also what the FUCK is up with Tarkov's pricing, there's no way you're pulling dudes off of that game if they're paying what it looks like they're paying.

Doubtful.
Simply having androgynous characters is already pushing commie beliefs.
They are trying to destroy and replace what people see as normal so destroying gender barriers is a big part of the plan.
The problem is that people are starting to see through the propaganda even if only subconsciously.

Wait, they're charging 40 bucks for this? I thought it'd be freemium shit like every other MP game these days, there's too much choice so nobody is paying 40 bucks.

Even if they looked decent, its online slop.

"Online slop" with good-looking characters peaks at multiple hundreds of thousands of players, not one-tenth of Veilguard. They touched less than one-tenth of Rivals. Overwatch has more activity than this. The First Descendant weekend-long betas each individually hit just shy of 100,000 players. Hyenas beta reached over 2000 players.

Marathon is currently worth 3 Hyenas.

I mean you are thinking too hard on the broader, more insidious goal of Elite leftist plans.

Paul Tassi is a retarded average Leftoid out of guilt for being white and upper-middle class, he has no concept of the Transhumanistic nightmare he's signed on for.

for him, its about Troons, Sex positivity (except straight sex, then its about enforced sterility) Diversity (AKA Whites put at the bottom of every Totem Pole) ect ect.

Marathon does nothing to further his concept of Leftwing dogma, it might as well not even exist for him.

you must understand your enemy, and understand each one of their collective as they are, the Leftists are not Monolith, they aren't all "in the know", plenty are useful idiots like Paul and must be examined and understood and predicted using that seperation.

because you want it to be another concord to own the le libs

Leftists only make games to be political, its perfectly in line with their own tactics to want their products to fail due to politics.

I know that not all know why they do what they do as you say there are plenty of useful idiots.
All I'm saying is that there is an angle for leftist to bat for Marathon but maybe it's failure is so overwhelmingly predictable that they see it as a lost cause and won't even put the token effort to defend it.

anon they defended Concord, POST shutdown, they will defend anything that has the current popular Flavor-Of-The-Year Leftist sacred cow.

Marathon has none of that, if one of the Androids looked at the camera and said "I'm ENBY and Queer and a Sex Worker" then they might have been piqued but no, nothing.

That and almost immediately dropping the NDA they had in place

We'll have to wait and see then.
I mean there has to be some kind of background information you could find of each of the characters.
My bet is that the one that looks the most like a woman has to be a tranny that went cyborg to be a woman.

its still too granular, Leftists need, and REQUIRE their dogma and ideological pushes to be big and highlighted and underlined.

it being pushed in your face all the time isn't an accident, its how they require things like that to be done, if it isn't, they don't even pay attention.

it will sell millions Bungie never misses

maybe Anon Babble being down was good this is just a repost of a X thread

Why couldn't they just make Marathon a Marathon game?

anon....
I'm always saddened by people's inability to sus out motive and action, reason and intent.

the intent was to make an Extraction Shooter with Bungie at the forefront, and Marathon was simply a wrapper to wrap around this Extraction Shooter since its something Bungie both owns, and can utilize as a franchise revival.

the Extraction Shooter was Mandate from Sony, Marathon as it is, was incidental.

I don't get extraction shooters, the loot isn't really valuable to you so why does it matter how much you escape with?

because you can take it from someone else, its almost exactly the character described by Alfred in The Dark Knight stealing gemstones from people that they didn't even care about.

It’s obviously a massive risk. Surely Marathon being a game that you have to play like job (Warzone, Fortnite, LoL, Genshin, etc) won’t end well for them. And if the audience doesn’t show up, why are they left with? Why don’t game companies still make single player games and then create multiplayer modes for them?

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I want it to flop but not to own le libs, but because I'm fucking tired of the live service slop and I want the industry as a whole to crash. Also, I fucking hate Sony and I want to see them fail too. That's what you get for putting money on fucking Bungie

worst part is that he's a Destiny shill. But even he can't defend the game. He knows it's shit

because they are obsessed with making Live Services games.

NEVER YOU MIND Elden Ring made five hundred gajillion dollars, same with a ton of single player games in the last 5 years, they want a game that can be milked for a decade.

its a hugely hard thing to do, you essentially have to make a series of gambling games attached to a real game, that never ends, Destiny 2 was basically a huge success.. till 4 years ago.

very few companies make lasting Live Service games, they won't stop, because its simply a Trend for the big money jews.

Marathon is so dogshit even Paul Tasshill is shitting on it

its OVER for bungie

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I mean Paul was never loyal to Bungie, he was loyal to Leftism, he was addicted to Destiny 2 personally but never loyal to the company.

It’s so bleak, man. This industry cannibalises itself over and over again without second thought. Think what we could have if these fuckers would behave. A new Deus Ex. Another great Halo. With this example? Another Marathon game with a single player campaign and multiplayer system. They could make a TRUE ironic Halo killer.

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As a closed beta player. I gotta say it was ugly as fuck. Standby for some pictures

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God I hope they don't delay it
Just let it go full Concord for my entertainment

that isn't how its going to work, once Video Games surpassed Movies in revenue the Big Money Faggots latched on, and now everything has to make Big Money.

only certain Jap studios can "do what they want" and just make a video game, you'll never get a game like say, Bayonetta 3 ever again, because certain games aren't Big Money games anymore, if you do, they are one of the few companies even attempting to just create a game they like.

I mean its destined (haha) to fail, it has Anti-Hype, no one likes it, no one wants it, everyone is shitting on it.

they could delay it or not, the results are the same.

Is anyone surprised by this?

These nine men are considered sexually attractive to women.

They even make tier lists are their buttholes.
Marathon would never have such privilege, let alone any other recent modern slop.

people just straight up eating Paul’s shit

He’s a games journalist trying to will into existence a concord situation for clicks. It’s laughable that people fall for bottom of the barrel clickbait when it seemingly validates their opinons.

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He’s a games journalist trying to will into existence a concord situation for clicks.

he is simply reporting on the low player retention. there is nothing hyperbole about it. its FACT that marathon already flopped and it hasnt even released yet.

trying to will into existence

No, that's what they usually do, but for once they're just reading the writing on the wall

Never thought this was gonna do a Concord but it has Lawbreakers written all over it

Bungie was one of the most influential and innovative developers in gaming history, they wrote the book on console shooters and online matchmaking. Halo CE gunplay still runs circles around Fallout, Halo 2's online still runs circles around Nintendo's.

I won't say it's surprising, we've known for a couple years that the game's development has been a clusterfuck, but it's still a bit shocking to see them keel over and die nonetheless.

They even make tier lists are their buttholes.

Post it.

Only people drinking the Kool aid aren't. This trannycore Roblox mod could've been the hottest game...of 2020

This slop is probably the most unappealing shit I have ever seen and I have no interest in touching it. The entire fucking game looks like a school kids shitty first art project for his 3D modeling class using every fucking base asset he can find in unity. Who the fuck wants to play "Trans-IKEA: The Game"??

because you are a retard, that's why its shocking.

Bungie is a name, a company, it isn't a singular person making these great works.

it got injected with Faggots, Troons and (God forgive me for uttering it) Women.

it also bled all its talent, "Bungie" doesn't exist, just like any company, the fact this idea is unknown to you means you are a retard.

it got injected with Faggots, Troons and (God forgive me for uttering it) Women.

I hope one day your post history will be shown to your peers so you feel the proper embarrassment for typing this.

Retarded thread. They only handed out a limited amount of codes and most of them were streamers and YouTube creators

All my peers will say "BASED! BASED!"

I don't like them but generic is the last word you can use to describe those designs.

Did you just get fresh off the boat from reddit, faggot?

They sent out a large wave of alpha codes today and even advertised it on theor Twitter

They still can't even hit the peak of yesterday

Scared, troon?

streamers and youtubers played schedule 1 for 2 months

couldnt even play marathon for two days

not the gotcha you think it is

OHNONONONONONONONONONONONONONONOONONONONONO

You should see how many people are in the official discord begging for alpha codes.

It's amazing we have one iota of transparency in the industry and it's "NOO BAAN SAVE MEEE!!! AAAAA"

Apparently they sent out like 500 codes.

Gaben isn't the hero we deserve but the one we sneed

This

People calling it concord 2 don’t realize how much of a failure concord was. There’s actually people who want to play the game, a closed alpha test limited to streamers and lucky people got more numbers then concords free to download beta test.

People calling it concord 2 don’t realize how much of a failure concord was

we call it concord 2 because its another big budget project that will flop not because its literally going to be as big a failure as concord, the literal biggest flop in gaming history

Tassi

Stopped reading there. It's Kain or nothing

You should see how many people are in the official discord begging for alpha codes.

Zero?

all me :^)
let them think they are doing great... for now

blue lipstick sexo...

YouTube and media are click farming. Weirdos online are hung up on Destiny 2 and Sony.

The truth is that Marathon will end up doing ok, probably on par with Rainbow Six for metrics, just not in the competitive scene.

It won’t be an amazing launch though. Game will have to build itself up over a two year period. That’s just how it is.

concord

marathon

fairgame$

We got a whole-ass corposlop trilogy that future generations can look back on and study.

You could use Twitch metrics here as well, as those have also dropped dramatically from launch day when a bunch of huge streamers were playing

The game just doesn't look good on streams.
The level looks like some default engine placeholder. Especially the grass.
Characters are unattractive.
Everyone is just looking really boring stuff.
Shooting some bots.
No PVP at all.

Streamers won't play just because it's Bungie.

First sane post in this thread holy shit.
You would think from some of the responses bungie killed their family or something.

it's a fucking ugly game, probably the ugliest i've ever fucking seen in my entire life
It deserves to fail

I call it, the ''Flopoligy''

You would think from some of the responses bungie killed their family or something

It’s all one guy by the way. You can tell from the posting style and how he replies to himself.

lol
lmao

the original teaser looked so good. the actual game is dull, grey and has this flat cartoon shader.

Has a game with declining players in alpha ever blow up post launch?

Marathon looks like the bungie version of radical heights. Soulless slop that needs to perform well or the studio goes under and whatever the latest trend is just get it out the fucking door before the studio doesn't exist anymore.

in what way? I'm honest about my beliefs.

Women make terrible workers in creative companies like video games, as women inherent make everything around them, "about them" they cannot detach their point of view from themselves, hence why most women cannot write.

this isn't "all" women, mind you, I'm not sexist, this is simply "most' women, its how they operate, intrinsically, because their continued existence, is the species continued existence, so they are naturally self centered, this mindset leaks it everything, every aspect of their lives, especially their jobs.

put them in creative positions? they will use it to virtue signal and make it about themselves, or their sacred cows and interests, always.

Nobody wants to look generic when they play a shooter.

What? They do, that was the whole point of the seethe behind the newest Battlefield. If you're going to make hero shooters and adjacent genres then it's different and marathon falls in that category

idk senpai looking like a yuuuuge flop. dont bring in that youtube did it bullshit either. the second it was revealed, people were already shitting on it and that was WITH the streamers shilling it and the chat still saw through the shillery and said the game looked bad.

im gonna keep chart posting and keep reminding (you) that (you)r game flopped, and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it

Looks like chuds are going to have their woke flop this year

I want the game to fail to own the libs, yes. Problem with that?

i think the entirety of the internet is open about having zero interest in this game anon, it's dead on arrival

Soulless slop that needs to perform well or the studio goes under

That's the mindboggling thing. Sony needs Bungie to land a big hit. What do they do? Weird graphics in a niche genre.
Even if Marathon does ok within it's genre, Sony will axe it.

Nobody wants to look generic when they play a shooter.

I do. I want to be a generic soldier.

this, its offputting at a glance, everyone is either off put or not impressed, nothing about the previews have wowed anyone.

game looks like ass

$40 entry point

I want this to be the death nail for Bungie so Sony can fire everyone and restructure and force whoever new they hire to make sexy games instead.

seeing everyone's reaction to the announcement the other week was enough, you could see everyone's realisation that this was just another concord in real time

all the interest and excitement people had was immediately gone and replaced with a lot of "oh..."

you have to understand these leftoid Porlandia types.

they cannot be tard wrangled to make profitable stuff, they will always sabotage to do shit like this, always.

the Japs have it right, find a few GOOD creatives and browbeat everyone else into submission without mercy.

Fuck you, chud

People say all this shit and then they play Fortnite for 7 hours straight and then League.

Internet opinions are worthless in 2025. Even around games like Expedition 33.

I’ll give an example: what the fuck does “good gunplay” even mean? Describe it YouTuber.

yeah the gunplay just feels really good

Cool.

watch some fags that finally got in to play it since there was some fucking maxed queue system

everyone instinctively tries to clamber up almost-reachable walls

heat gauge has that kind of shitty resetting delay after every single micro sprint, making it faster to just redline and force cooldown

slowness of everything makes even-team firefights turn into 15 full minutes of prodding and waiting, with dead members suffering through its entirety

mob enemy intelligence was overhyped by streamerfags, and there's only like 3 types

can only have a single active contract, meaning it has to match team-wide for run efficiency (I remember Destiny let you hold like 12+ bounties at once)

bag capacity is tied to a losable physical item instead of being a "seasonal" upgrade like what the vault currently is

("hero") abilities unbalanced as all fuck, can barely be overcome with consumables (like only just the smoke nade)

matches take years to initialize, and there's no smaller capacity solos mode

I hope they don't delay it for laughs though

Based

Nah, the Marathon thread on the other chan that shall not be named proved the opposite, most anons were saying the game looked like a cashgrab or just generally mediocre while the main positive points and shill talking points all came from the same poster.

the Japs have it right, find a few GOOD creatives and browbeat everyone else into submission without mercy.

thing is, get the wrong guy and you're fucked.

you have to understand these leftoid Porlandia types.

pretty sure they don't care about success and just want 4 years of ludicrous salaries.

Internet opinions are worthless in 2025.

not if you want your game to fucking sell you idiot. if even the idiots are saying the game is trash, you are truly fucked. because that is who they are trying to capture!

("hero") abilities unbalanced as all fuck

matches take years to initialize

you wonder what they did those four years. certainly not playing their own game.

Is Destiny 2 worth playing? What about Counter Strike? Overwatch?

All the same shit. Anon Babble teens are retarded because they think with their dick. They could be invaded by Russia and China right now and be appeased as long as they dressed the insurgents up as sexy women.

anon most of these Portlandia types are trustfund kids, hence why they are lazy and do such shit work, 5,000 person teams and it takes 8 years to make this dogshit.

they don't need the job, they don't need the money, they just want to fuck around and push their politics and artsy fartsy shit they think is cool.

meanwhile, all the games the Western faggots have made combined isn't as cool as the first 30 minutes of Devil May Cry 5, or as artistically well done.

anon most of these Portlandia types are trustfund kids, hence why they are lazy and do such shit work, 5,000 person teams and it takes 8 years to make this dogshit.

i know. i work in games. those american studio heads never appear to having to actually work. seems more like a hobby to them. and of course they move director jobs around between their friends.

What the fuck is this. Like actually what the fuck am I looking at? Babys first drag and drop $2 steam game? Bold to have borderline texture load error messages being an aesthetic choice

all of Western Corps at that level are full of people who do absolutely fucking nothing 90% of the day and reap 150k a year for it.

just fucking an insane amount of worthless faggots.

maratroon xisters... not like this

Is Jason Jones even working on this?

Another "we want battle pass money and a competitive scene we can make money off of" game

no thx lol

I never played an extraction shooter but is it grind/progression heavy? Maybe people don't want to touch the beta cause they know their progress will be wiped on release

the original style looked so much better.

i leeched 10k a month from them and i did not have to work much.

ban useful data

Sorry your feefees and vibes got ruined

everything about this game was a fucking blast.

pure concentrated fanservice distilled into perfection.

I'm super disappointed that this game is going to be PVP extraction slop, but this whole "The characters are unattractive! It's Concord 2!" narrative comes off as insincere and reeks of third world anger porn addict fuckery. The Asian chick and the Thief girl are objectively attractive, even if you may have critiques regarding their style.

You can only have 3 active threads

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Splatoon if it ps5

It's Fortnite except you keep the guns for the next round.

I never played an extraction shooter but is it grind/progression heavy?

usually no, since you can easily lose all your progress.
they fundamentally don't work well as grindy games or seasonal live service. if you make them grindy, the loot has to be boring. boring loot makes the extraction boring. you need high stakes loot for the thrill.

It's the same style.

I hope they don't delay it for laughs though

0 chance Sony even lets them, honestly. They'd rather just shutter the entire studio and move on at this point. The acquisition has been an unbelievable disaster for them on all levels considering how heinously they overpaid.

Remake your first failed game with some strange ass aesthetic

Girls are cute, the guy on the left looks absolutely ridiculous. Like a beat'em'up boss from the 90s.

Anon I'm sorry but the results are in. You're blind, gay, and retarded.

literal visual diarrhea

lmao

don't tell me you don't see how one is grey and dull.

"The characters are unattractive! It's Concord 2!" narrative comes off as insincere and reeks of third world anger porn addict fuckery.

I agree, and I am a porn addict, the in game models can vary from shot to shot but the designs are interesting and nice overall, I bet if these characters were in a cyberpunk game people would eat them up.

they made the characters look like trannies in rubber suits.
"muh transhumanism". no, more like trannyhumanism.

The game would suck even if it had attractive characters thoughbeit.

Not that anon but one is concept art and the other one is just developers failing to translate it to the actual design and visual of the game.

Isn't it just weather/different time of the day?
Either way, is your only issue that it doesn't have a cyan filter?

That guy does look stupid, but apparently his design is being reworked because so many people said it was retarded.

The results are in

Just trust me bro

No
I think the art style is very cool overall, even if some things look silly. I'm just sad it's being wasted on multiplayer live service shit I have zero interest in. I really enjoyed the narrative of the original marathon games and was hoping Bungie would return to the series ever since it was rumored that their Activision deal included a clause about making a Marathon reboot once Destiny was done. It finally happens even after they split with Activision, but I get the biggest fucking money paw twist. Oh well, Bungie probably isn't even capable of making a good singleplayer experience in their current shell of their former self state.

but this whole "The characters are unattractive! It's Concord 2!" narrative comes off as insincere and reeks of third world anger porn addict

Oh you wanted to maybe discuss a video game online? Too bad!
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Now he's back! And he's back with a vengeance.
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These are the people we talk with daily on this website.

yeah. they chose to use some dumb cartoon shader and that doesn't go well with the art style.

sure, but it seems to go hand in hand.

nah, i watched some streams. the game doesn't pop.

That guy does look stupid

he looks like a nigger drag queen.

useful data

Why do 4trancels only talk about other people playing games instead of games they're playing?

Almost as is it's the point that the characters are trapped in disposable corporate-funded low cost android shells.

posting a CGI trailer instead of actual in-game photo of the model

lmao

marathon tries to appeal to normies

normies hate it and thinks it looks retarded

(you)

sperg out about Anon Babble

Looks fun and I’m gonna buy it.

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current day politics inspired android shells. have your strong girl and tranny.

You'd have a point if they didn't look like human legos.

Don't know about that, $400 mil down the tube is a pretty high bar to cross

dystopia is dystopian

hold the presses

We got a whole-ass corposlop trilogy

Hyenas or whatever it was called as always forgotten, because the publisher was at least sensible enough to just scrap it before release.

Asian girl looks objectively feminine and is unmistakably a girl

Thief character has an hourglass figure that would make the average tranny -ackkk themselves out of jealously, and also has an unmistakably feminine face

You still feel the need to bring up trannies unprompted

Brainrot

will they reach a combined cost of 1 billion?

The thing I find real confusing is their insistence on squad play, when destiny has shown them how far people go to solo content.

No solo only queue on launch is going to make everyone try to 1v3, which will end terribly and burn them out from the game.

The dystopian part doesn't work if you keep trying to present the dystopia as "#brat" and chic.

here you go bro

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I know there's a lore to the shells being mass manufactured to fit with the gameplay loop, but even though I like the character designs they still don't look right.

These are for extraction and infiltration operations right? Wouldn't it make more sense if everything was a bit more militaristic?

this.

its very "Club Chic" shit.

Show me one instance of Marathon doing that

These are for extraction and infiltration operations right? Wouldn't it make more sense if everything was a bit more militaristic?

they look weird and impractical. since they're not made to fit the world, but to be a character in a hero shooter.

pressing "Random" in character creation ass designs

You say it yourself, they are only half-way okay looking because of the attractive facial features, not because they fell into the dumpster behind a futuristic thrift store, which is the entire rest of the design. And the other characters don't even have that little going for them.

see
That screenshot SCREAMS "chic" high fashion bullshit.
Reminds me of that shitty Jaguar commercial people were shitting on last year, but with fewer garish neon colors.

just look at the footage between missions.

flop incoming

I don't get the yapping around the solo queue stuff. None of the major online shooters feel good playing solo.

Although a streamer brought up a good point, in that games without a solo mode make streamers talk to chat less while they're playing. Which now that I think on it makes no sense with streamers like Jynxi.

youtube.com/watch?v=rLtFIrqhfng

they look like this, AKA a 70's throwback, AKA the new Leftist "style at the time" right now.

we've gotten so off center of what is considered cool looking in video games in Western Development we are now making 70's themed Runway Fashion model fag shit and trying to sell it to Shooter players.

jesus christ dude

MEANWHILE in a game with good art direction/sense of Cool.

(shame about the Fag Storyline of this last expac but it seems to be slowly recovering)

youtube.com/watch?v=ZZiFAvFkNtk

Fuck bungie

Have you even watched the cinematic? It almost verbatim spells out that the characters are stuck in a horrible dehumanizing situation, that's the main plot thread. Other than the very surface visual layer nothing about these characters is presented as "trendy" or "chic".

this is condensed "what a 12 year old thinks is cool"

and that 12 year old was right.

The only one there that doesn't look fit/athletic in some way is Pyro and he/she/it doesn't care because flamethrower go FWWWWMMMM

The problem is that this doesn't look like far future space-faring advanced civilization sci-fi, it looks like parodical near-future cyberpunk satire making fun of modern runway fashion trends by having everyone dress like a dickhead and cover themselves in paint.

Other than the very surface visual layer nothing about these characters is presented as "trendy" or "chic".

the whole game is about being trendy and chic. cosmetics, moron.

Where is he getting the chart from? Doesn't show up for me, did Bungie somehow get it removed?

Pretty sure Tassi backstabbed Kain and torpedoed his career.

expecting Anon Babble to understand subtext

ironic as they have one of the highest movespeeds.

I don't care about the cinematic because it's nothing like the actual game.
In the game this shit is absolutely presented as chic.

this

good art direction/sense of cool

how many years did you study the blade to develop a taste this bad

meanwhile what everyone wants to look like in these games.

Where and how?

its literally a Gundam Wolf-man with a phase saber set to his WWE intro song about how he's only alive while "in the Ring" and he does a bunch of afterimage attacks.

its peak over the top Saturdaymorning anime shit, literally presented in-story as a Wrestling fight and he's a Babyface.

how is it NOT cool? are you that irony poisoned?

very surface visual layer

It's THE visual layer and the only decently interesting thing about this game even if I don't like it that much. 'plot' about late stage neoliberal hellworld capitalism or w/e is secondary.

how do you go from THIS

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No, I'm just no longer 10 years old and think that aesthetics that don't have a little bit of logic and meaning behind it are boring.

Dawntrail was fucking horrendous. I would rather play Destiny 2's post-cut content opening that Dawntrail again.

Just to prove my point, MGRR is way superior to the slop you posted even though it's also over the top, because it cares about that bare minimum of logic and realism.

that's good because there's consistent logic behind it, they use technology to warp themselves into machine/monster hybrids to have WWE fights for fun.

youtube.com/watch?v=pwk0GPaYb4o

this Contestent uses the technology to become a Disco Frog, Dancing Green!

if you don't think this is cool, you are fucking completely broke by cynicism.

The visuals of early destiny 1 before troons was probably the coolest gaming sci fi ever made..

yes yes, I know I'm talking purely the art direction and how cool this particular fight was presented.

From everything I've seen it just seems like a woefully out of touch attempt to hop on a trend that's already died down thanks to the amount of shit additions that ended up being huge let downs. It's not entirely to say Marathon is the same as every extraction shooter, but it doesn't really stand out in its own attempt either. It's basically a watered down Apex with extraction elements instead of it being a traditional BR. Generic FPS gameplay, awful overall visuals paired with a neon saturated "woah super futuristic and punk" color palette, generic hero ability shit crossed with a poor implementation of the loot/extraction elements that doesn't really grip you.
I hate to be entirely negative about it since I do have some desire to play it, but the price tag would have to be free for me to even consider it, but that would only end up being the death of the game when rampant cheaters start playing to RMT on it.

I can't wait to see what sort of MTX they shove into it. It would be impressive if they could outdo the shit they did to Destiny.

useful data to who? how is this data relevant to playing vidya?

all these companies thought the extraction genre was gonna be the next big thing and the genre then proceeded to flop

dobgeg

You dismissed Marathon because you think its surface aesthetics are somehow morally bad and refuse to look deeper out of some stupid principle. You're already cynical as fuck yourself.

this game journalist is seething because he can't craft player count narratives since based gaben's platform provides us with player count transparency.

behold the power of bungies "good" gunplay

they aren't "morally bad" they are just clashing with the setting and narrative.

Disco Frog literally makes more sense in FF14 than the Emo-Chic' Androids in Marathon.

permaban all tassi posters

Looks like Roblox

paul tassi

isn't that the fag that gave veilguard the "10/10 GOTY" review?

Disco Frog literally makes more sense in FF14 than the Emo-Chic' Androids

Forgets about the entire Emo-chic lesbian raid tier

I don't see how. These are cheap android mercenary bodies color-coded and shaped for ease of assembly and not human aesthetics. Sounds perfectly in-setting to me.

It was brought up in the other thread but finding out at one point the game had customizable characters and got rid of them because of pic related's 1000 IQ ideas really sours me on it

if they were cheap they woulnd't put purely aesthetic shit like the x on the lips or the fucking hair or eyelashes.

they are way to stylized for cheap droid bodies

and it was based, what of it?

how often does a closed alpha weekend end up trending downwards? jesus that's grim

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Alpha is only open to Americans and Canadians

They all wildly missed the point of it unfortunately. Dark and Darker could have potentially kept the whole thing alive longer if they didn't end up embroiled in the legal shit fest, and if all those somehow even more jank clones didn't come out before it actually got its release. But everything else fucking blows dicks.
Gay Zone Cumstain had shit performance, worse/more egregiously cheat driven AI than Tarkov somehow, and lackluster loot.
Arena Breakout has got to be the most bait and switch game of a lifetime. On paper it should theoretically be a good game, but it's plagued by so many fundamental issues that it just doesn't feel good at all.
All the other shit in between like the dank and danker clones and the "original" concept gameplay, some other indie stuff that fell under the radar. It all tries to capture what Tarkov has, and it fails, and that's sad since Tarkov constantly shoots itself since Nikita is a certified GENIUS.

There's a world where extraction games can still work, but everyone's either too busy promising their copy of a game is better than the original (and then failing) or making things like Marathon that completely miss the mark...

It's pretty insane to think that even a bunch of slop purveyors that make money off of this took one taste of the game and were like "yeah no thanks" and decided to do something else.

they are way to stylized for cheap droid bodies

So what? It's still reasonably plausible and original Marathon isn't super hard sci-fi either. Plus Gundam WWE is an order of magnitude more stylized even for a fantasy setting and you don't have an issue with that.

trying to lure a streamer watching casual player base with a sweaty high stakes genre like an extraction shooter is so insanely retarded. Like who the fuck is this even for?

Original Marathon is SO hard Sci-fi that its unreal, what the fuck do you know about the setting.

I don't have an issue with the WWE Gundam-Wolf because they perfectly explain why they can utilize the technology to turn into Gundam Wolf and in setting turning or embodiying a Primal is already done like half a dozen times, and its fundamentally the same concept but using Electrope instead of collective faith.

Honestly, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but the most fun I've had with an extraction shooter has probably been Mecha Break, and that's mostly just because it's a mecha game with fast combat where player engagements are hectic spamfests as opposed to me getting sniped by someone camping in a window on the 10th floor of a skyscraper or in a bush 600 meters away.

This fucking sucks dude, I would rather play nu-destiny than this garbage

Original Marathon is SO hard Sci-fi that its unreal

I agree with your other opinions, but brother you are literally running from an old god for large parts of Marathon and play as the reincarnating spirit of the archetypal hero. Parts of it might be pretty hard sci-fi, but it's absolutely diluted by straight up fantasy.

Customizable characters in an FPS is absolute ass. Players dress up like 14 year olds and it ruins the game.

plenty of FF14 is cool as fuck, especially Aesthetically.

if you don't think so, oh well

youtube.com/watch?v=Vs4OtauuVns

As an extraction shooter normie, I don't understand why you would do anything more than quickly loot up a POI and escape 4 minutes in for every match.

Why, in Marathon, would I stay until the 25 minute mark? Backpack space is limited anyway, are there like special things that spawn in the last five minutes? Is the tradeoff that most teams will be competing for this and the last extraction zone will be a hotspot?

how often does a closed alpha weekend end up trending downwards? jesus that's grim

not just that but it dropped 50% after a day. it wont be better at launch. game has 6 heroes, 3 maps, and ark raider among other games will be competing against it.

to kill other people and take their shit, same reason as any extraction shooter, to legally grief.

youtube.com/watch?v=SIYkhb2NjfE

The players will look as good as cosmetics they are given.

just stands there on a square platform blasting stupid looking VFX everywhere for 10 minutes with zero visual clarity to anything

Fuck even world of warcraft is better than this and thats the king of clusterfuck visuals, every last thing about this fucking sucks, even Destiny had the feeling of scale and epicness right for its bosses unlike this crap
youtu.be/5-9YZ12qF7w

This is what people want when they say they want character creation. There's no arguing this, I've been playing games for fucking 50 years and EVERY single online game ends up looking like this in the AFK lobbies. Either this or slutglam.

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pov: someone desperately trying to show everyone how cool final fantasy is

Yeah, but they would still have a playerbase. I mean look at Marvel Rivals and Overwatch 2.

you just posted the only cool fight in all of Destiny, aesethetically at least.

and there's ton of visual clarity in FF14, tis VERY readable generally speaking, WOW is much harder to "read" what's going on visually than FF14.

youtube.com/watch?v=hk3g9U7MjVk

anyways all raid bosses are "standing on something fighting a boss" in some variation.

I say this as someone who hates destiny 2, every single fight in ff14 is on a stupid square/circle platform with zero interesting gameplay beyond spamming your rotation and memorizing where to stand, while pretty much any boss in destiny has more going on than that
youtu.be/st4BoCWVGYQ
Stop fucking embarrassing yourself, ff14 is fucking awful in every single way, *even* destiny manages to look fun in comparison

I hope she sees this, bro.

youtu.be/st4BoCWVGYQ

Marathon will have raids like this too right

cybernetic GRIDS

I guess somehow a few people are. Even though Bungie hasn't been a passionate studio of nerds making cool shit since Halo: Reach. And that was 15 damn years ago.

Not a chance, thats why everyone is laughing at marathon for being Concord x Tarkov

Didn't the devs say there would be in the post-release Marathon ship map

14fags are so annoying. At least Destiny players know they're eating shit. 14fags keep trying to pull people into their trans shit eating cults. I just want to grill and shoot aliens, god dammit.

marathon could be good and i still wouldnt care
bungie are an evil, shitty company

It's funny how all these companies are killing themselves trying to be Fortnite 2.

Amidst a plethora of high quality remakes and reboots (Doom 2016, System Shock, ect) you reboot Marathon as live service slop

The most bare bones version of a tarkov clone possible, reeks of minimum viable product, 6 years and 300+ AAA developers spent on making 2 maps and 4 heroes

Ugly as fuck troon aesthetics

And ultimately, has nothing to do with fucking Marathon despite using the name

"B-but the gunplay is goo-"

Litterally only has automatic/semi-auto ADS hitscan weapons and a shitty shotgun

no rocket launcher, no fusion pistol, no flame thrower, no pistols/shotguns akimbo, no alien machine gun, no needler, no brute gun, no energy sword, no grav hammer, no sticky nade, no SMGs akimbo

You don’t understand the Chad/virgin meme. The Runner goes on the right.

I want the security Chad back

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why did u greentext all that

One was made by 8 nerds with hobbies and studies in computer science

The other was made by 300 troons with a 4 year game design degrees from community college that put them $500k in debt

shit game is shitty

No way!

Literally me

Devs need to understand that gamers are like women. They ask for things and then turn heel when they get it.

All the most successful games don’t give a fuck what players think. Players will sit on forums for years speculating and complaining and nothing comes of it. Those are those most successful games.

Bungie is trying to be too good willed talking with players and balancing issues. Just make the game and done. Don’t listen to Timmy because he wants VOIP and solo queue in the game. Give him nothing and he will come.

Shit up man you’re 1000 hours deep in Nikke daily’s.

It's called Marathon because that's what I'll do to not play it.

It was the same thing twenty years ago when everyone tried to have their own MMO because WoW was setting the world on fire. There's acre and acres of 'WoW killer' graveyards.

TLOU, Horizon and Spider-Man 2 are full of ugly characters and sold well.

BAN OBJECTIVE DATA CAUSE IT MAKES MY SHILLING JOB SO HARD

objective data

doesn't include all sources

Then where’s the ps5 and xbox data

dead tranny game...

i dont really understand how destiny got popular because the gunplay seems unimaginative compared to something like borderlands. so i feel like they got extremely lucky with that game bc borderlands isnt really a live service game so there was nothing to compete with it. but marathon seems like a complete miss. it tries to simplify extraction shooters into some fortnite/apex legends quick game when escape from tarkov is popular and long lasting because it has so many things going along with the hyperrealism aspect of it. the arcadyness of marathon seems like its for no one

It’s a question of, “how many people DONT play Tarkov?”

That’s your market.

pretty much every extraction shooter died off pretty badly despite having good launch numbers. grey zone, that ww2-punk spaceship one that completely died no more servers. maybe those games just sucked but marathon does not look like an excellent game so im guessing it will die too.

why

Sincerity and passion from people who actually gave a shit
youtu.be/Y1OjUWw43co

Borderlands was a retarded basedlennial post-irony reddit setting, while original destiny was pitched as completely sincere knights and wizards trying to save what's left of humanity from alien horrors beyond our comprehension with a tinge of both tragedy and hope
By the time bungie was zombified by trannies and women people were already hooked into the setting

Who gives a fuck about Faggathon

doesn't include all sources

only the largest, primary data source for people playing on PC

and Steam player figures indicate general sentiment about a game

But feel free to post about a game that had absolutely abysmal numbers on Steam but was actually a big success and it wasn't some kind of cheated 'didn't launch day and date on Steam' cop out.

i care about laughing at developers losing their jobs when game floppas

No one plays shit on steam. They play on ps5 and switch.

What's Schreier doing in there?

they

Fuck off.

So you're using a singular source? How do I not know you're biased and using to skew the data?

Because I have this amazing ability called 'critical thinking' that tells me if a game is performing badly on Steam, it's performing badly in general, and this failure in performance can be demonstrated by looking at things like Twitch viewer numbers (they're bad) and what the dev is doing (dropping the Closed Beta NDA, which is also a sign of panic), and what the journo fags are saying (like that cunt Tassi saying 'delay it').

You must be 18 to post here.

it is surreal how quickly they go mask off as soon as hard data to a game underperforming surfaces.

The one thing that will keep this game up is the story.

This is the current failing point of all the other shooters. There’s no inherent meaning in the gameplay so people just drop and pick up games on a whim.

If Marathon gets the season story and quests part down, even though it’ll impact the more audience because they don’t give a shit because guns, that’s the endgame.

Marathon isn't a real game, its a minimum viable product for Bungie that Bungie was committed to making as part of the Sony buyout.

Bungie has been downsizing for years now, firing 10-20% of their staff year after year which to reduce operating costs while jewing the fuck out of Destiny 2 fags to balance the books so they don't get sued by Sony, and once they get their final payout from sony everyone is going to jump ship once their contractual obligations are over with.

the one thing that will keep this game up is the story

anon's face when he finds out they admitted they haven't written anything beyond some 'foundational elements' and the rest is being written now, on a rush, without a plan

critical thinking

refuses to quote all data sources

Yeah seems like you're biased and not representing the actual data correctly to me

Destiny 3 died for this

Wow bro you must be like 140 IQ easily.
Next you gonna post how many people are in their discord or how many followers on X or how many subs on YouTube and cross correlate all of them together to form some really smart metric in player engagement and potential future retention taking into consideration time of day, IP location and more to really get a grasp on your favourite game and how it’ll do.

WHO IS THE TARGET AUDIENCE FOR THIS?

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Shill-kun, if you have to resort to this level of semantics to defend this flop. The data points you can go look at right now are:

Steamcharts

Twitch engagement/people watching people play

articles being written (like the Tassi one from Forbes)

the actions the dev is taking (like dropping the alpha's NDA)

Prove me wrong then, cunt. All of the available data points suggest a flop. Not something as big as Concord (that's a once in a decade level fuckup), but certainly on par with an Avowed or Veilguard.

deflects to calling me a shill

Glad you confirmed you're biased and your data analysis is unreliable as you refuse to include all potential data sources.

Destiny 3 was never on the table.

Bungie is planning to shut its doors in the next 2-4 years, you might get Destiny 3 from sony, but it won't be made by Bungie.

There is no missing data source that would somehow prove Marathon is not performing poorly. The onus is on you to provide one if you think the handful I listed are incomplete.

So, where is it?

there's no missing data

doesn't include console which you yourself acknowledged

again why are you claiming objectivity while attempting to present fraudulent data?

The steam data is fine, but it’s useless without knowing how many alpha codes were even given in the first place.

If the game does bad, tough. not like Bungie has great rep anyway and there’s always added fallout for levelling your game a Battle Royale/Extraction.

But this poster like linking Forbes articles and the authors and steam charts like they got stocks in Sony or something. These sort of posters are the worst part of this site. Niggas in crusades to make games fail on an anime forum.

if you fags weren't here masturbating over sales data, nobody would be talking about these games at all, and the board would be better for it

The console data you're talking about isn't exposed to anyone, so it's a moot point. Every other publicly-available source paints the same picture. How you fail to realize this (or accept it, more accurately) is beyond me. But feel free to show an example of where every other data point showed a game performing poorly, but it was actually a verified sales/financial hit. I'll wait.

All people on Anon Babble want is to be entertained, and laughing at slop-flops is board culture. Nothing anyone posts here is going to make the game succeed or fail, anyway.

So you admit your data set is flawed and can't accurately be used to represent reality.

Asmongold killed another game

Have you tried playing video games instead of talking about other people playing them?

The data represents reality, lil bro. Reality that you can, yourself, go observe right now and it will tell you the same thing. Your entire position is based on the flawed premise that there's a secret tranche of data somewhere that somehow disproves everything else that can be observed today.

I'm doing both, actually

I think Sony forced Bungie to make Marathon as a part of bleeding the company and buying them out when they can't meet contractual sales metrics (already happened with Destiny 2's near miss)

Bungie is super fucked right now.

data represents

single source

how can you show that it does? What's your statistical analysis on it?

Steam charts is a source. Others are the ones I've mentioned at least five times. I sincerely hope you work at Bungie for how breathlessly you're trying to defend this shit sundae.

So you haven't done any analysis or used other sources?
Seems like you're trying to push a biased narrative to me.

Bro the default characters already look like that

I'm using a handful of sources when I say 'the game is on track to flop.' But since you can't understand this simple concept (or refuse to), I encourage you to post your own information and sources and analysis that suggests mine is incorrect.

Why is there this one guy pushing steam metrics and Forbes articles?

Alright bro the game will flop. You win bro.
There’s always one poster to shit up a topic. Doesn’t matter what it is. Always one. It can be fucking Beyblades and some dude will shit it all up for years on end.

Marathon got its own Barry.

deadlock had a peak playercount of almost 200k and currently has more players than marathon's peak despite nobody having talked about it for months
it is still invite-only

But you conveniently avoid using two primary sources.
Seems you want to ignore them almost intentionally.

turning a doom-shooter into a multi-player extraction shooter in a post Doom-remake world

not using new design for a new franchise, but having to use marathon name

Bungie deserves to die

steam has a higher monthly user count than PSN

is there at least gunsmithing in this game or we forever stuck with these fuckass lego silhouettes?

I haven't played in years but my then titan fashion was way better
most people have no self control and go for the most flashy gaudy shit in order to stand out
but then everyone does that and then no one stands out; in the process the art style gets ruined to sell more and more ugly fuckass cosmetics

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Bro you gotta go do something with yourself. You know, don’t worry about Deadlock and Apex Legends and Dota 2 numbers, it’s alright.

the amount of bots on this site has skyrocketed since it went back up

singular source

Besides Steam, what other platform shows player data in real time and has Marathon? Just give me one name, one fucking name.

oh concord 2 is out already??

Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask

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The characters don't need to look attractive. Just don't have the characters look like shit.

WTF?!! THE GEORGE DROYD GPU IS REAL?!!!

Attractive is the wrong word, the characters need to be appealing whether thats looking cool or sexy or mysterious etc
Troon in a wetsuit from Milan fashion week is not cutting it

Huge split on the art style online. Even the streamers can’t make up their minds on whether it’s good or not.

No, I don’t care about the actual numbers at this point.

proceeds to make olympic gymnastics with those said numbers

"BUT THESE ARE CURVES!"

OP = faggot
Since October 2003

People rag on the art-style, but then you look at Apex and it looks horrid.
I’m not a Bungie fanboy, but I think Destiny is actually one of the best looking games, probably alongside Fortnite, Rivals and Overwatch.

Siege looks awful with their characters, Apex is garish, all the mil-sims are brown, Warzone has no graphics.

says nothing of substance, just muh numbers

Holy fuck kill yourself steamjeet

another snoyslop flop

Music to my ears

I play the game for she

Shame she doesn't look like that in game.

tries to copy mirrors edge which was really good but they don't realize what made it good

game that every single play tester has claimed is bad and won't retain players turns out to be bad and fails to retain players

shocking.

They copied it well. All the internal structures look amazing in the same way the Mirrors Edge does.

Its not complicated

Sony spent 4 Billion dollars for this. Has to be the biggest rip off of the century

Sex with Thief.

Enough to sideways complain about it. After getting outpredicted by porn addicted chuds on a few high profile games, I think they started paying more attention.

There's billions of dollars on the line on this deal.

He got his ass handed to him on some of his previous predictions.

Very late here but can someone tell me what happened here?

Like concord, it's an extension of the Bungie failure. It's not going to crater as hard as concord, as that's financially impossible but the same people calling the shots on this pushed concord.

watch cinematic

looks cute

go play original Marathon

good fun

I wonder what Anon Babble thin-

CONCORD 2. CONCORD 2. LOOK AT THIS STEAM CHART! FUCK YIU BUNGIE YOU KILLED MY SON

okay. See you all in the beta

That it's doing shitty? No. That Paul Tassi of goddam forbes, destiny fanboy that he is is questioning it? Absolutely.

TLOU

The OG game had cute Ellie and Joel is peak daddy.

Horizon

Sold on robot dinosaurs but the game and characters sucked so the sequel flopped.

Spider-Man 2

Sold a fraction compared to the first game.

That really isn't his track record. Especially not on a giga budget prestige game with a well connected team.

Peer here. Looks pretty based as fuck.

Alright. We have quorum.

The interesting thing here is the curve.

they made a mistake letting people show the game off months early

I'm glad that in the future we're all going to be chopping our dicks off and wearing garish latex green and purple suits, something to look forward to thanks doc

No. It's concord 2 because Concord was the result of Bungie. Firewalk was made of ex bungie people. Bungie convinced Sony to buy the company, cancel other live service projects that weren't concord and marathon.

I don't see it possibly being as big of a failure as concord, but it's a contender for biggest bomb of the year. I expect it to easily blow the doors off of AC shadows loss, and cant' think of any other contenders.

reminder that it is

ILLEGAL

for publicly owned businesses and corporations to NOT SEEK PROFIT no matter what. one of the biggest reasons for corpojuden ruining everything is that this is only put into practice not for actually going bankrupt or defunct but to force businesses to do the most insane, retarded shit in the name of profit so other businesses can abuse its shortcomings and gain market share.

This. Early Access and alphas never help anyone because people can only form baseline opinions, of which Bungie can just do this internally anyway.

Now everything missing from the game, now people have to come BACK to it all in 2 months and readjust opinions.

Free games ALWAYS drop off like this. People are down to give it a try because it's free even if they know there's a 90% chance they won't like it.

Rainbow six has a halo from tom clancy and is one of the very few tactical shooters available. They're counting on Destiny fans picking this up, but I'm not sure if they're coming.

Did you enjoy the gameplay?

Easily.

I was playing pathways into darkness on the mac back in the day. My interest is mostly seeing what kind of hapsburg deformed baby comes out. I actually liked the cybernetic detergent ad look, but not the greyed out roblox ripoff look. Extraction shooter is absolutely not my jam though.

Is steam charts not an accurate source of actual numbers it's only for open profiles?
I don't know that actual percentage of private/open profiles tho so I might not actually factor into the numbers that much.

objectively attractive

The strongest metrics we have for this, based in rule 34 say you're full of shit. Even the cybernetic fuckers and trans humanist transexuals aren't showing up for this.

Oh fuck up you insufferable cunt

I think if they tried to sell the designs as sexy, they could pull it off, but this is modern bungie, and the very idea paralyzes them with fear. I find it less sexy than Concord.

Get us some screenshots and webms.

funny how you never interacted with the actual game

This game looks like someone deleted the entirety of the game's textures and they hastily had to make something to ship and this was the result.
The entire game looks like an ut2k4 template blockout with random materials slapped on and normals generated.

I think if they tried to sell the designs as sexy, they could pull it off

Honestly I still find the characters hot, but if bungie leaned more into the robofucker aspect and embraced the degeneracy, this could sell decently well just for toasterfucking aspects alone
I also hate myself for wanting to play it simply because I want that tarkov itch but this game and everything I've heard about it just sounds fucking awful

Why do you need to pay for it when there are many similar free games? Currently it's just "extraction" part of the game serving as major selling point. If you want to play similar game but battle royal you can play Apex, if you want some classic team vs team then you can play Overwatch or Marvel Rivals, there are also military shooters without hero gimmick at all.

It's all bots everywhere. At some point I'm just gonna stop using the internet period.

Nigger ALL normally wired teens think with their dick. You are either an asexual weirdo or a creepy millennial larping as a teen

Ah yes revert back to this non statement.

Did you?

even misses the subtext of a single sentence

forbes is a blogger platform now.
anyone can post 'news' stories there.

excraction shooter

everyone lost interest the second it was confirmed to be this dogshit genre

I don’t care what teenagers think.
I care about the faggot who’s gonna latch onto some female in the game because their father molested them and then proceed to garner a trip, post threads every day and destroy any chance of taking about any game ever.

lol that never hap-

Oh really? How are those Expedition 33 threads going along? How are the Fortnite threads going? What are the Rivals threads doing? That’s what I thought.

He thinks sony will keep pouring money into this when it has the whole internet shitting on it and underdelivers on launch while they have concord ptsd.

This game is dead on arrival.

Yes concord blew up spectacularly.

Is that Bazz sista?

got his ass handed to him on previous predictions

Since when has that ever stopped a leftist, they simply have no recollection they were ever wrong

check out my marathon art, can I be a designer?

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I lost interest when it was modern bungie. Motherfuckers already fooled me twice.

Someone told me they likely went from making a reboot entry taking place inside a ship to this shit, and looking at the quality difference honestly it actually seems likely. The outdoor areas just look so fucking bad, I have played PS1 games that look nicer

fpbp
chart threads are about people playing video games - not video games themselves

How many devs are going to fall for the extraction shooter not having a solo vs solo mode meme? Literally Tarkov is the ONLY one yet its the only one that is successful. I know some devs browse here, do you understand that Solo Extraction in Tarkov is why the game is popular? Squad friend meme shit is a side game, you don't develop extraction games around parties of 3. You do it around solo vs solo vs solo vs solo players. You can have 2s or 3s but make that its own mode. The idea of "you can just solo que against teams of 3 is enough" is WHY you keep failing and WHY you don't get it. Such a simple concept that nobody can fucking grasp except Tarkov. You people are truly fucking stupid. This isn't rocket science.

I think Sony WANTED bungie to be their live service hero, but after directing a billion dollars of live service failure based on bungie's say so, they're going with MVP. You think another six months would save this project?

Too colorful, needs more grey.

fuck i hate it so much, and seeing people call this travesty of an artstyle good is sad

Another 6 years wouldn't save this project, it's cooked from the getgo

This will do for launch you can still make it absolutely insane afterwards. Welcome to the bungie family!

Jesus Christ, we're in for another Concord.

I wouldn't say it's completely useless. It isn't that strong of a sign, but it is bad.

Lets flip this. What is the strongest sign that the game will be a success? I think it's the people begging for access codes. I don't have any quants on that.

Or perhaps they don't have the skill or the hardware to do it?

You always take the best care of me, doc.

Disagree. It helps if there's a difficult concept you need to get across, like Baba is You.

Sony got scammed harder than any game corporation in history. When you consider the concord Devs were ex bungie its the cherry on the cake.

Theres millions of 3 man squads waiting to play OUR take on the xtraction shooter genre!

Steam charts has strong limitations, but in this case the primary limiter is that it's invitation only.

When they had that one teaser clip showing mechanical/biological muscles and shit I thought they could pull off a toasterfucker robofucker HR geiger sort of slightly horrifying alien sex thing, but they won't commit to any sexual attraction at all. Not that I think it would save it, but in an age of FNAF animatronic porn, the fact that they're getting no traction here and are happy about that is a death sign.

Bungie knows that already which is why they switch from f2p to paid purchase. Instead of making 0 dollars they would rather shit out this immediate EOS slop and trick a few diehard bungie fans into giving them some money.

What the fuck? The game is only teams of 3? I couldn't play that even if I wanted to and even if I had 3 friends willing to play shitty FPS games with me I absolutely wouldn't have 2 other people dumb enough to buy it.

What the fuck were they thinking.

He calls you a whiny porn addicts and then you prove him right instantly.

The Marathon alpha peaked at three Concord betas. I'd look for a new job and see if I could get my name removed from the credits if I worked at b*ngie

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God, this is the taste of people trying to call out what is and isn't cool?

Spider Man 2 and TLoU2 were outsold by Switch Sports. I don't think you want to use that as a benchmark for success

That's not true, I want another flop because it's fun to watch. I like funny memes about the gaming industry crashing.

Thinking Sony had any control or say in anything happening right now is hilarious. They were completely scammed on the promise of a golden GAAS future, they thought they were buying the "masters" of this domain like EA did with respawn. Bungie took all their money and their senior leadership will bolt for the door as soon as Sony realises what has happened.

masterful bait, forcing your brain to remember the video of this particular segment with its music and visuals must have been tremendously painful but it was worth it for this one shitpost
/kneel

Sorry a chick with every color on her wonky ass clothing while sporting a row of monster energy isnt attractive to me

He can't fall back on prostitution like Mercante can.

The game itself looks dogshit but the art direction is pristine. What do you think classifies as good art direction in 2025, asset store slop like oblivion remastered? Oversaturated, AI generated chinese gatcha aesthetics? Played out weebshit? Disgusting re engine slop? Everything is fucking boring, I watch Dorito popes award shows and E3 conferences and I enter a coma as the same ad for the same game replays 200 times.

This game and uedas new sci-fi game were basically the only trailers in the last decade that made me take a second look, the second look for marathon was ugly as fuck but the art direction had something most games don't.

They had the right to not fucking buy Bungie, and not listen to their directions.

hey, it's diet monster energy.

Is that not already his job?

i want to facefuck glitch

Yes, but he's supposed to be classier about it. Serve the advertisers, like blue prince is getting.

I'm betting they're getting confirmations that marathon isn't getting a big ad spend.

A lot of these AAA studios think every single person on the planet acts like streamers and always have friends on 24/7 ready to game at a moments notice. Nobody wants to play 3s with fucking randoms its not fun. Even if you have a dedicated group you aren't going to be on the same time as them every day and there will be times you want to play when they don't. The idea of a game not having solo ques against other solo players has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen in gaming. Its why shit like Apex just never clicked for a large amount of people.

Good art direction in 2025 and for all time is when the visuals are both appealing and you can look at any screenshot and instantly recognize the game
Now you could say thats true of that first marathon trailer but the game itself absolutely not

Anon Babble threads are a better metric of a games potential.

If something is getting 500+ replies, it’s gonna do fairly well. Even 120 replies is good.

Threads that can’t stir up anything are failed game projects, regardless of the content of the threads.

Yeah, that's the last time they were in control of anything happening at bungie, there is no current 4d chess master plan at play, it's just Sony realising Jim Ryan and his dutch boyfriend were retarded and spunked almost 4 billion in the toilet because MS was making them panic and they bought all the GAAS lies.

The original pitch for destiny where there would be random hard content out in the world was perfect... until they kneecapped all player communication on purpose because we couldn't let people's feefees get hurt by meany toxic gamers on proximity chat
Fucking retards, the only chance you ever had to meet people at your own pace was using a fucking custom website to find groups for raids

These Are cool
Marathon looks like plastic troon dogshit

SAAAAAAAAR

concord threads regularly with 500+ replies

Huh???

I disagree. All these games are team based games, and it’s the solo mode that is essentially the side game.

It’s not like solo is game breaking or anything, but it encourages twitch like gameplay with high mobility.

Moving with the squad IS the game. To bring it further, Bungie’s shooting mechanics don’t feel good for one on one play.

The reason why so many people play solo is because they reach a skill gap that random players can’t match, THATS the actual problem.

For an ugly bitch?

only reason why I even heard of concord before it failed was Anon Babble threads
I installed the beta and it was horrible

That was after the fact. There weren’t any concord threads before hand. Even now, no one really knows what the game was or is.

Name one character from the game that isn’t Bazza, without googleing.

Bazz is the only character it was his time to shine nigga he cut his dick off for this!

He's literally bungie biggest shill
A bit retarded but still
Still I don't think this is really a huge deal, a lot of the keys are going to content creators right now, not real players

Yeah, jin roh and early destiny concept art are cool, jin roh isn't a game and destiny had exactly the same problem as marathon. The concept art was stellar but the actual game looked like lazy concept art speed paints.

The OG marathon art and game are disgusting, it's mad max and star ship troopers in a gay bar. The only reason you like it is you're old and nostalgic

we get it dude you're an epic nazi who only wants fat white women

If only marathon actually looked like this, this is cool as fuck.

why are publications already slamming this game? did bungie/sony forget to pay the DEI mafia?
I mean Anon Babble already knows it's going to be shit, but it's weird seeing journos shitting on a triple A game that's yet to come out

Iz. It. The nonbinaryish green catgirl, and contender for r34 lead, with the rocket launcher girl.

I like OG marathon too, but it’s goofy as fuck. The best part of the game are the walls.

Everyone saying they want the Nickelodeon Pfhor aliens as they were in 1994 or something in the reboot are just lazy posting.

I think a bunch of them took a credibility hit when they went to bat so hard for concord and it failed so hard. I'm also not seeing ANY ad spend for marathon on the topline ad channels.

if only the game looked like it looks like now

I can’t with this games discussion

Only d2 looked lazy (especially more recently)
Considering it had to be crossplatformed between ps3 and ps4 d1 looked great, the actual artstyle was incredible

There were plenty of concord threads before release. On reveal we had threads calling it least appealing game ever conceived. Also after betatests.

I played destiny 1 and was immediately disappointed by how vague and nondescript the environments were. It was a bunch of random geometry thrown around in a desperate attempt to stretch their environment team beyond it's limits. No man's sky reminds me alot of destiny.

That shotgun is ridiculous. They’d better nerf that.

Is everyone playing this game running it on 30% internal resolution or some shit ? Why is everything so fucking blurry and colors so washed out ? In general, I know this 960x540 picture isn't representative but the footage I've seen isn't that far off.

The game doesn't look like that, that's a shot from a cinematic trailer. The actual game looks like Roblox.

That doesnt describe destiny 1 at all, all the locations were clearly designed with functions in mind

I liked her better when I thought she had a whole green color palette going on thanks to the lighting. Her default colors looks unfinished.

LOOK! This game is following the normal release playercount curve in its closed alpha

This is major news and everyone should pay attention

don't worry this is an article I'm dumping fully onto the front page for no reason, so it's fine

This desperate countershilling for this is truly absurd. It is fucking CONSTANT yet on the alt-chans and right after Anon Babble came back there was none of it. I don't think people care about the game and I don't think it's gonna succeed but the desperate need to paint the game as a mega flop is beyond comprehension.

She would look way better if she didn't have all those random extra bullshit decals all over her face
Splitting the face in half with square robo eyes is cool cyberpunk shit but all the rest on top just makes it look like someone hit random in a character creator

but the desperate need to paint the game as a mega flop is beyond comprehension.

People like watching this garbage fail, I don't understand why you're so mad about it. Bungie spent a lot of money on this, as did Sony, and they're going to see a laughable return on their investment.

The biggest peak the game will see is on launch, when they pay every streamer on Twitch to play it for 2 hours in the hopes that they'll keep playing it because it's so much "fun", while in reality every single one of them will drop it like a rock the second they legally can. They did the same shit for the reveal, they must've spent a ton of money on that marketing campaign.

Maybe it’s a new form of engagement? Pay these actors to stir up and pretend to be antis forcing most people online to take rational standpoints on the game?

Isn’t that a thing in politics too? “Poisoning the well”?

Besides the soviet space earth stuff I can't think of anything that felt like it had any sense of place, function or purpose beyond random mega structure alien shapes. I will admit I no longer remember which locations belong to which game and I might actually be bleeding destiny 2 content back into the first game. All I remember from destiny 2 is they went all in on the space fantasy shit, made them look like knights in space and it looked stupid.

Halo had this problem too. There weren’t any concord just structures and enemy radio tower things everywhere. None of it made sense.

Marathon, strangely enough, aside from the colours makes too much sense. All the buildings have function and purpose.

Maybe I haven't watched enough marathon gameplay but at first glance it has no sense of place either, it's just random rectangles thrown about with a bunch of vehicles and crates filling in the gaps. The interiors may have more of a function but the focus seemed to be on making excuses to include graphic design elements, the overall impression is random.

she looks like that streamer cheating on counter strike and blaming her imaginary friend for installing wallhacks on her computer

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Audience is a far gone term for Bungie. Basic communication was nearly impossible during Destiny compared to other gaming studios and their respective games. The only people they really care about are streamers, who represent the top 0.1% of players and will never say anything genuine because it’s their financial backbone and they don’t want to lose exclusive access.

i have access to the alpha and the game is the most boring peace of shit ive ever played. i dont even care to shitpost about it. never had that happen before. they're probably going to cancel the game.
and im saying this as one of the three people that like the art style.

Only the vex have random inscrutable alien megastructure shapes because they're time traveling robots that don't give a fuck about the laws of physics
Hive base on the moon was split between command centres, an armory, slave pens and religious bullshit
Venus ruins made perfect sense it was formerly an academy so as you dig deeper you end up in the server room
Mars was formerly a research outpost so it had a train station and office buildings while all the cabal shit was designed to be cheap modular and cost effective military base shit for rapid deployment in war zones since they're space romans

Like there was a lot of variety it was really cool

Nah it's more likely just counter-shilling.
The economic opportunity cost for hiring indians to shill something for a major company is basically zero. The real risk is it being TOO obvious and too many people getting annoyed. There's very little risk of that if you're hiring the indians to shit one some else's product and no backlash will lead back to you.
So why WOULDN'T, say, EA hire shills to shit on this? It likely won't do well, but why take a disk that it'll eat into Apex's playerbase or whatever.

No way in hell they cancel it but given the low player count they’ll definitely delay it and shift things around to make it more appealing, however they perceive that word.

forgot my image

they're probably going to cancel the game.

Sony are delusional enough to fund this to begin with, they're going to ride it out to the inevitable Concord reception.

Now, after 2 flops like this, I do wonder what will happen with fairgame$. I'm surprised they haven't axed that already.

The screenshot here brings the point across well. It's stupidly detailed and functional modelling. Ventilation, white board with markings, shelves.

Of course the stark colouring is unrealistic, it's a way to gameify the visual recognition and appeal of the rooms.

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"oh my god Activision! Why did you ruin Destiny"

They couldn't even do this in extraction shooter style:

instead of entirely different characters or heroes chosen before the drop, have an equipment slot named "RIG"

your "RIG" gives you the utility or whatever the fuck you need, and can even be customized visually

RIGs of differing quality and skillsets can be found in the world and traded by players

nah we gotta sell skins and get the valorant audience man

I'd seriously run n full marathon before playing this. I'd spend money on running shoes before I bought this.

Yeah but it doesn't have a sense of place or purpose, it's an office room I guess? Except it doesn't even really make sense as a place anyone would do any work. They are obviously trying to ground it with finer details because everything else is so abstract but the overall structure doesn't read as anything to me, their beta looks like a shipping depo in a forest, ok but this is fundamentally a boring setup and every object within it feels randomly placed.

Bro, just let Deadlock go already. Anyone who wanted to play it already has. It's a DOA game that's likely to get abandoned. It was a failed experiment.

This failed experiment is still more successful than bungies next big thing

Nope, I never got into Apex because it was a team based game. I absolutely hate when I'm forced to play with randoms in a game where they heavily effect if I'll win or lose. It's part of the reason I've stopped playing PVP lately because all shooters have turned into hyper competitive ones where I'm still at the mercy of RNG for my companions. It's not fun at all to deal with minorities, 3rd worlders, and children, especially if they control the amount of fun I'll have in a game. The sweats are a completely seperate issue, but it's an inherently shitty system in the first place. Call me back when they introduce big team shooters again.

This screenshot looks kind of cool actually, it's just there's so many where it doesn't.

4 billions for 6k players

cope more shill

i dont know why anyone would bother with a extraction shooter,tarkov is still in beta for whatever reason and it's been close to 10 years and everyone else thats tried ends up dying, bungie would've probably had better luck making a battle royale shooter

Is losing 85% of players in 3 days/into the weekend really a normal release playercount curve?

There is literally nothing interesting about any of this, mirrors edge is the closest example I can think of and that game doesnt hesitate in the slightest to make things aged and gritty

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it's because bungie leadership is retarded.
you could even call the company senile at this point.

The entire development process behind this game is awful. There’s no passion or ideas. It’s just throwing in a bunch of trends and hoping something sticks. Halo didn’t have any beta tests, it was forged and tested by the developers. But here they’re just a bunch of headless chickens begging for opinions. You just know there’s no passion for extraction shooters or hero garbage in that office.

The only people asking for this are woke troons afraid of their games being exposed as failures. Their entire ideology relies on these products being successful and actually wanted by people, we have seen over and over that companies lie but we have Steam charts to prove them wrong.

I hate what this industry has become, this character belongs in a single player ghost in the shell game set in a crazy mega city. 20 years ago these artists would be making that kind of game but instead it's wasted on DOA GAAS slop with over designed "heroes".