why didn't he just gouge his eyes out? is he dumb?
Why didn't he just gouge his eyes out? is he dumb?
all his senses were affected, not just his sight
The question is, why didn't he tell his "friends" or doctors how he perceives them so they could at least understand his situation better and give him sedatives or something
The guy was a typical japanese horror character who barely does anything to solve his own problem. Maybe a jap mentality, i don't know
you told the truth to the psychiatrist
The usual, he didn't want to be a human guinea pig. Despite that he should've still done it, it wasn't like he was getting used to the meat dimension or anything.
Should i be worried if I've become a lot like him?
minus the eldritch loli of course
You're really going, "Why doesn't he just succumb to the otherworldly horror and go insane and kill himself, is he stupid?"
Are you a retard?
i never said that
Would you a Saya (forma de real)? I would.
Tall, handsome and has a group of loyal friends
Not at all
Sees a bit of the old meat dimension
A bit yeah
Why doesn't he just succumb to the otherworldly horror
He was already succumbing to the meat dimension the problem was he never tried to get help to get out of the meat dimension.
reminder this got corrected by the neighbor
what is good is bad and what is bad is good
bravo japs, very deep story you get there
It started with his sight though. I think his other senses simply adapted to that.
There should've been a doujin with True Saya doing the nasty with Fumi.
She can do her equiv of putting a paper bag on her by giving you a lobotomy everytime she wants the sex, and then back when you're done. I would consider being with her, but it's been a decade since I played this so I don't know what she's really like.
All I can safely say is Fumi was a shoggoth enabler.
the same guy who wrote dead mahou shoujos show
Gen Urobuchi is a genius. In an inverted sense of word.
I would consider being with her, but it's been a decade since I played this so I don't know what she's really like.
At a certain level of loneliness, what someone is really like doesn't matter anymore.
Anyone got suggestion for books I can read on the train? I've tried getting into lovecraft but my god his writing is so fucking bland. Why didn't the farmer's family just GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE????
Any port works can work, but if you want the relationship to last you got to really meld with the other.
With Saya you have to: be constantly hiding her; stopping her from becoming the end of humanity; spooking nightshift nurses etcetera
She's also lonely but she also needs to be told no, and a desperate anon might not have the nerve that, turning into another Fumi.
So sorry pal, the meat doll is mine!
cant gouge out your third eye without exploding your own head
if you die he wins
he likes talking so much he grew a biotic tv screen in our head that we cant turn off
Why didn't the farmer's family just GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE????
As always, if they did there wouldn't be a story.
I would always recommend: The Whisperer in Darkness.
It's short, but it does go for good build up to a nice pay off.
He would 100% end up locked up somewhere like in that one bad ending and he likely knew this as a medical student.
Eitherway the MC is clearly abnormal to begin with, a "normal" person like the painter goes insane pretty fast after being hit by the nightmare vision but the MC endured it fairly well.
dude his farm was getting FUCKED, they should've hightailed it but no those dumbasses stayed there for no god forsaken reason that was dumb as fuck. His other stories are cool in concept but as I said before his actual writing is bland as hell. I wish Dagra Magra gets translated pretty soon but I want more mystery horror stuff but I can't find shit outside american shit writing or a simp killing a homeless guy to fuck his neighbour in the ass.
You should read The Black Farm. Not because I think it's good, but because I'm too lazy to read and I want you to tell me if it's good.
why not ill pick it up
If you bros don't like Lovecraft, you might like proto-Lovecraft.
I want something more modern or sci-fi but I feel like a lot of writers just seem to be "edgy" for the sake of it. no being edgy for "SYMBOLISM" isn't fucking deep you fucking fuckwit.
Saya's natural parasitism caused it, it's way too convenient for there to just happen to be a natural disease that makes its hosts want to protect Saya-like creatures while perceiving everything else as reprehensibly disgusting
picked up, thanks bro.
I would like to believe
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would excuse his tolerance, but he was a piece of work.
I can't for the life of me recall how long he was seeing the bad before meeting Saya, but had he ever went to a butchery things might've been a bit different.
1908
Anon, back in those days "edgy" meant writing about a bare thigh.
NTA, but I just picked that shit up.
Is it representative of his other works or an outlier?
if you want something modern just Go outside.
if you want sci-fi Just think of our future.
Representative sadly, but I felt it had enough window peeking before the unmask to justify to rec.
Okay thanks, since it's so short I won't even mind if I end up disliking it.
Lol they kill people in this reality. Consider it 100% a guarantee that all forms of mass produced writing is designed to hypnotize and enslave by people who would go to hell if it were real. Or even more likely, written by a magical immortal wizard who plays StarCraft IRL. You just cant even comprehend the things that this guy does. Because hes never made it clear what our minds are made of. Or why we hear his voice speaking to us from our own perspective. Anyways, if theres one important thing it’s that we have been brainwashed by a cult. Likely not of human origin, but we can still say an alien is a cult. It could even be a cult of talking cats, it doesn’t matter. Brainwashing is something they do way over in that other country, not ours. Propaganda stopped being produced after ww1. There’s no way the entire library was written by one group. Look they all have authors with funny names.
Good to hear!
For the sake of this being a horror vn thread; I would recommend the VN version as well, since it's fairly well done. Though I can't in good conscious say if it's the best version but you've read his work in the past, maybe some visuals and sfx might pull you through the train ride.
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Would
I can't for the life of me recall how long he was seeing the bad before meeting Saya
His friends at the start of the game say's he's been like this for several months (two-three or maybe half of the year already, can't remember). He had enough time to come up with something but he just endured it day by day... for what. Who knows
You know that that's a fan art, right? Saya's real form has the same petite shape as her fake version
Its like if you didn't have breakfast this morning anon.
so in the end does fuminori become an eldritch abomination like saya?
He fucking stated his reasoning somewhere in the beginning when the “monsters” first showed up and talked to him
if I told them my vision is fucked, they will 100% lock me up
It's a multi ending story. One of them I do think he gets shogot'd but at the cost of losing Saya.
That would justify the tolerance. Fair theory.
dude...
what if...
guy had a normal life with friends and a love interest and everything was going great but then...
car crash
family dead
the guy starts seeing meat and blood
he only sees the sexy cute loli as normal but...
loli be the eldrich monster that eats people...
and...
she like kills and eats his dearest friends...
and...
he starts eating people too... and...
he kills the rapist with cold blood while screaming angrily like an animal
and he hugs the underage 12 year old girl he loves only because he doesn't know that she looks like a spaghetti monster
and then
instead of ending with the love interest he brutally rapes her and treats her like an animal before she dies
and then...
rape...
rape...
rape...
rape...
rape...
and then...
sex...
sex...
sex...
sex...
sex...
and...
he wants to kill his last friend too and laugh about it...
HAHAHAHAHA I WILL KILL EVERYONE HAHAHA YOU MONSTERS HAHAHAHA
and...
all friends dead
world domination...
everyone looks like spaghetti now
please don't get the infinitely better written ending where the less retarded friend wins the fight, kills the eldritch whore, and has the only good written and actually thought provoking monologue in the entire VN
Man. Urobuchi is such a good writer. I was a little worried about getting an actually mature story early on with all the existential horror stuff and the MC acting like a tragic relatable human being instead of an edgy cartoon villain. I'm glad that changed quickly
Do you have real Saya art?
He was a pedo and meat vision let him fuck a loli any time he wanted
What a waste of good tits
This was a visual novel and a VN without sex is not a VN worth reading.
That's why Fate had sex and Arthur was a woman.
the shitty ass comic actually did a good job in exploring the “radiation” aspect of Saya and that wall
the game didn’t do that, barely a hand wavy mention about the wall after the well rescue
No, THIS is a waste of good tits. She never got nude, never had a sex scene. Nothing. Goddamnit!
I AM THE KING OF THE BRITONS
Hyperion.
MC acting like a tragic relatable human being instead of an edgy cartoon villain
I do feel that for a lot of lovecraftian jap horrors, like there are some really good ones like the Nehan series or you get something like Cthulhu Mythos Lunatic whispers, which only gets by for having a two cute characters but a has a shitty port of the Cthulhu ttrpg.
torturing yourself with a visions of hell with no way out except heroing, not having anyone by your side (from humans)
being locked up and medicated every day
one of these options is worse than another
I mean, have he really had anything to lose?
he would still eat, smell and hear shit.
Women in suits/work uniforms
Anon can say what he wants about Butcha's writing but god damn does he have good tastes.
saya's brainrape changes your perception of reality. it doesn't affect your senses otherwise
No, it was Dr. Ogai tryimg to help Saya. Going off his notes, during his surgery on Fuminori he intentionally made it so he would find Saya beautiful so they would help her. It's also why he killed himself since he knew Saya wouldn't complete her mission as long as she felt strong attachment to a human.
Her other outfit is pure sex too. But it's all wasted! In a porn game! What!
Not banging the hottest girl in a horror
Bravo Butcha, such evil really does come naturally to such a master of horror.
I thought for sure her and Koji would have a scene, their sexual tension was insane. But that might've been my coomer brain. Nothing happened.
I can't remember if saya and the neighbour had a scene, but if not I do believe it's classic only MC gets to do the banging for self insertion.
imagine self inserting as Fuminori
They had a sort of scene. It was like a half scene. Then Fuminori went John Wick on him.
Ogai helping his daughterfu
Based. His love for Saya was genuine, Fuminori was just conditioned into it.
Think you missed the point that when humans look, sound and smell like horrific monsters to you then you can't possibly treat them like normal humans even if he tried to at the start.
It's not even a matter of him being evil or anything, his twisted perception severely erodes his sympathy for them even if he knows deep down that they are human so he can hardly be blamed.
get off your computer saya
I'm sure Urobuchi originally wanted her to aggressively bang Koji but didn't have time to write it desu
Aozaki Touko?
I think Fuminori talked about it with Saya and this reasoning turns out to be bullshit later on. He said that he would have the upper hand against his friend because he sees him as a monster and has no inhibitions because of it. During the fight it turns out that the friend has no inhibitions either after they used the changed Yoh as a bullet sponge against him.
Didn't he literally have her fuck rats and monkeys?
Eh?
Stop posting my wife, thanks.
Why are zoomers unable to appreciate Urobuchi's writing? It's legitimately interesting that the more time passes, the worse the perception of his past and present works becomes. Rebellion was good and didn't deserve the outrage. Now Anon Babble doesn't like Saya no Uta either.
He literally had Saya.
Having her>>>becoming a vegetable.
If it wasn't for her he would've killed himself.
Not to mention that wouldn't have solved anything, there's pretty much no cure for him.
I can't watch Kara no Kyoukai without wanting to FUCK her. Shiki I don't care about, she's basically a boy.
Have you missed the part where Anon Babbleeddit started shitting on older games like Rance as well?
For me, it's puppet kino. Even if the last season was a bit disappointing.
I don't think so. I think he just game her semen sample from various animal species to see what would happen.
I see. The ol' turkey baster.
Isn't it kind of funny how Fujino looks like Sakura's twin?
tranime
Yeah. Same with Bargain Bin Shirou. Kidding, I love this based loser. He's Literally Me.
I meant before he met Saya. He was in that state for several months prior but did nothing.
I don't think it explicitly states how Ogai goes about giving her animal semen, but I wouldn't put it past him to just have her fuck them for shit and giggles. Dude is legitimately a monster.
tfw he named Saya after the cat he experimented on
Rebellion was good and didn't deserve the outrage
People would have liked Rebellion a lot more if it was its own stand alone story. It retroactively ruining the anime ending just left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth
I don't understand either Ryougi or Mikiya in his situation. Why would Ryougi invite this guy to live with her for weeks, and why would Mikiya give zero fucks about some guy from the streets living with his woman. They even teased during the time skip montage that she doesn't give a fuck being seen naked by him?
Rebellion was good
retards don't care about plot
They probably saw him as a sexually harmless herbivore male. It's a real thing and more common than you might think. Haha...
Madoka
Hated by purist and newfags alike for being "subversive" (it's not) and for setting a trend of trashy edgy mahou shoujo series (fair enough).
Fate Zero
Not enough chuuni powerleveling wanking for FGO newfags and too cynical for newfags that started with the UBW adaptation
Saya no uta
Canon loli H as part of the main plot plus the amoral MC makes several subsets of people seethe
I thought Saya no Uta was okay, but the writing just felt like a vessel to tie 3 increasingly shocking and disturbing scenes together.
Which is fine by me because it reminded me of the Saw movies (that I like a lot), but I don't go around saying the writing is anything amazing in those movies.
I'll admit the concept of of the game is very good though.
Why does nobody remember this underrated kino?
No, it was a shitty movie full of pandaring and an excuse to make more money from the franchise.
Horrible treatment of secondary characters, Mami, Kyouko and Nagisa very well couldn't be in the movie and nothing important would have changed.
In the original series every scene has a meaning and a purpose, a lot of shit in this movie is just there to look pretty, especially the scenes with Homura and QB.
The movie has a horrible passing, the real plot begins after one hour, for fuck safe.
Many scenes feel awkward and out of place, for example the moment with Kyouko and Sayaka ruins the tension and seriousness of the final battle, would have been much better before the battle began, not in the middle.
A lot of shit went without a real explanation, creating plotholes.
He met her when he was recovering in a hospital.
cold, callous, aggressive, and ruthless
sleeps with guns in her bedroom
hardcore alcoholic who drinks 190-proof vodka every single night
hunts down the supernatural with a grim on her face
pretends to be a cheerful and happy nurse during the day
perfect woman. gives me a way bigger erection than hundreds of generic slutty bimbos. more women like her in Jap media please
I don't remember where in the game middle row left and right come from.
Black Lagoon girls make me feel a similar way
this is fiction so it can't be helped, but in real life anyone would tell or scream at their doctor or the nurse that something was wrong
you didn't finish all the routes?
When she shoots Saya,
sorry
le cool edgy anime bro types don't work like that
I think that Homura becoming extremely possessive of Madoka to the point of acting against her wishes makes sense from the character development standpoint. She spent an eternity trying to save one person that showed her kindness, but then that person sacrifices herself for the sake of Homura and others. This means that they can't be together. Homura initially goes along with it, perhaps while harboring some regrets. THEN it turns out that it might be unsustainable because Kyubey can still mess with them, at which point she decides that she's just gonna go about it her own way. I really think that's what broke her. Madoka is too kind for her own good and that can lead to horrible outcomes together with Kyubey's meddling.
Eh, I enjoyed the fanservice in Rebellion for what it was. If it was a book or a VN then I'd agree with you. In anime there's always cool animation to look at, even when what's shown doesn't really add anything to the story. That first hour is full of cool animation and while it hardly adds anything, it doesn't detract anything either.
He is literally a medical student, he knows exactly what's wrong with his brain. The problem is there is no fixing that kind of damage (unless you are a literal extradimensional eldritch entity witht he ability to directly manipulate biological elements). Best case scenario he is loaded up on meds the rest of his life, worst case scenario he gets put in some sort of nuthouse.
I'm pretty sure saya is a literal limbless flesh-horror blob, she has multiple scenes where she scuttles under a couch or sticks to ceilings, and she leaves mucus everywhere
she leaves mucus everywhere
This applies to human women too. Not everyone knows this.
I don't think she's totally formless. I think she's like a tentacle monster but mostly flat so it's easy for her to get into small crevices.
Sure she probably has tendrils or something, she does grab things
Assuming it isn't TK. I wish I had that. I could type without hands.
I would've studied up on occult, it was the 2000s so there would've been occult materials a plenty available and figure out how to summon lé demons since I was already talking to one in my head what's wrong with another? (As a Japanese without christian/other religious baggage that says demons BAD! that would be the route) and gone full chuuni without telling anyone about it.
Play The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, it's basically what you're describing except with a focus on a codependent relationship and their lives go to shit for a different reason.
His narration paints a better picture of how he handled it, at the start of the game his friends say that at first he was screaming and crying and that he needed to be sedated, and that the Fuminori we see is actually much better than before, even if he's completely apathetic
Also in typical japanese fashion I think he was a bit sociopathic to begin with, with how he threated his relation with tsukuba before the accident
Best friend victory ending is the real one, sorry guys
That's just poorly written incest slop though. I would've gone more chuuni in the terms of finding out a coven of witches to larp with type of shit. Japan is more open with Occult types so it wouldn't have been too hard to hit up some fortune tellers in Tokyo and check if they know of any covens that frequent them that they could put me in contact with and larp that way. Of course not revealing my personal information when doing so, lmao.
saya probably looks like pic related
honestly I would
Same
Did you play it, though? I wouldn't say it's poorly written, it's just that Nemlei doesn't spend much time or effort writing the parts that she doesn't care about and she makes them extremely on the nose on purpose.
Why
Because he's George Martin of the anime.
hohooo i'll just kill everyone and add Nietzsche references so it would look deeply philosophical
He's a one-trick pony and is boring as fuck.
It was poorly written fap material. Poor attempt at a visual novel like story telling even for an amateur circle work, art work was decent though just the story beats and whatever it was just rushed to lack any meat.
he did, the doctors and his friends just thought it was emotional shock after the accident and the loss of his family, not that he literally had meat vision
when he calmed down and realized what was going on, he immediately planned his suicide and was about to do it before he met Saya
Oh noo, I must die because of I see weird shit.
Not very logical response to an illogical situation. It was just shock horror written to offend really.
Shiki is the best and made for pure and wholesome handsholding, hugging, kissing, marrying, nakadashing, and impregnating
Nothing sexual or seductive about her. It would be like mechanically fucking a pringles can.
her cold stare and badassery are sexual and seductive in itself, pleb.
This, I don't understand why anon says he should tell people, he would get locked up for sure and no normal doctor can fix meat vision anyways.
Flat
saya is more popular than ever all over the internet lol if u leave your 4chud bubble
don't stare at me like that or I'll cum
She drags a guy under a couch to experiment on his brain or something so it's probably a physical thing
GIWTWM
Most normal doctors can't even fix a tummy ache