Finish

Coming back to this game after many years and it's fucking weird how slow movement feels in this game now. It genuinely felt sluggish when I played the campaign for a bit.
goes to show how fast paced everything is nowadays

i completely agree. i like infinite gameplay because it feels like halo just with sprint

You're being a retard on purpose. You don't actually believe that an entire new game doesn't justify making a new character arc. You're just having a laugh.

Infinite made me realize that Halo CE-3 are dated shit that need a Metroid Zero Mission-style/Metroid Samus Returns-style remakes. No, not remasters, full blown remakes.

It was

youtube.com/watch?v=vNyQgZOZ64A

You're being a retard on purpose.

A character "Arc" is all about a character being in one state, going through some ordeals, realizing something and transforming into a "better" version of themselves. All that is done by the end of 2. Sure, he's the one who probably should have stabbed Truth in the end, but like I said he didn't have any character growth in 3. He was a side character and more of a stand in for the rest of the elites where the chief is the stand in for the humans. The Elites (Arbiter) really do have the biggest grudge against the prophets, so it should be their blade that does the deed.

Not him, but his character arc should been him getting gutted by a Brute or Flood in Halo 3 so we wouldn't have so many lore autistic bitching about him on the daily. Only furfaggots have any interest in an alien. Metroid did it right, have those fuckers speak alien and have them either be enemies to or help the Master Chief, that's it.

That was probably one of the worse decisions for the game's balance.

spawn with plasma grenades and plasma rifles

And they took his active camo away. They should've just done arbiter levels like god intended. First level could have been an arbiter level reminiscent of pillar of autumn from halo 1. You'd arrive at earth orbit in the cruiser from the great journey's skybox and get attacked by the covenant fleet.

That's cute. The contrarian thinks I'm still reading his troll posts.

I have started Halo 3 after all these years, and holy shit, does this game hold extremely well in 2025. Im having such a blast replaying it on my pc. I miss when videogames had such environmental interactivity like Halo 3

Arbiter levels should have never existed. Can't wait for the remake to gut them, streamline them and make it a Master Chief-only experience.

what remake ?

The Arbiter really was a net negative. Only a couple of his levels had Elite enemies, and his inclusion demanded that every human gun had an alien counterpart.

Sure thing cheefag. They'll probably include the banished as well.
Regardless, the problem with arby in 3 is he doesn't do anything special. If they remake halo 2, chief will probably have armor abilities in the same vein as arbiter so gameplay would be intact.

Halo 2 was a bit of a mess for some reason. The arbiter levels kinda ruin the pace, Master Chief wears paper armor and dies with a couple of shots, the game is too dark and the flashlight shuts down after 5secs, and the last boss is stupid. They did the right thing of having Arbiter as a co op side kick in Halo 3

Halo 2 was a bit of a mess for some reason

Extremely rushed development for many reasons.

his inclusion demanded that every human gun had an alien counterpart

two new weapons were added that might fulfil that purpose. and one of them was obviously for the purpose of having sniper jackals so it's actually just one. and why isn't there a covenant shotgun? or a covenant frag grenade? why isn't there a unsc sticky grenade? why isn't there a unsc sword? why isn't there a unsc brute shot? Why isn't there a rapid fire smg only used by black marines? they didn't need to design arbiter's enemies in such a way that they require a carbine to fight comfortably. they most likely designed the carbine because of the amount of initially planned chief levels on covenant ships and high charity.

two new weapons were added that might fulfil that purpose

Along with a heavily nerfed plasma rifle to match the SMG.

and why isn't there a covenant shotgun? or a covenant frag grenade? why isn't there a unsc sticky grenade? why isn't there a unsc sword

Don't be disingenuous. You know exactly that each of those have a counterpart.

they didn't need to design arbiter's enemies in such a way that they require a carbine to fight comfortably.

Probably not, but they did anyway because all of the Covenant weapons up to that point excelled at breaking shields over draining health. The fact of the matter is, it made the game and sandbox boring and we're still seeing the effects of it even after they rebooted the sandbox for Infinite.

I played these games for the first time (the campaigns) recently and I thought 2 was the weakest of the trilogy. Am I alone in thinking this or did i get filtered by 2?

"I don't know about this guys I'm scared! I can't do it I'm too scared! I'm pissing my pants I'm so scared!"

I can't believe 343 slop eaters like this character and say he's the best part of the game. This guy fucking sucks.

You haven't heard?

Remake would have modern gameplay like what you saw in Infinite. Elite gameplay doesn't work with that plus, Elites are so unpopular that it would be a waste of resources.

I'd point out the irony of you using the word disingenuous but you're obviously just a bitter contrarian language machine. Truth doesn't mean anything to you.

Halo Studios may kill him off when they make Halo post-Infinite.

everyone i disagree with is le contrarian

Whatever, faggot.

I miss bungie.net forums.
You could have honest conversations about halo with healthy people.
Retards like were a lot rarer than they are on Anon Babble

Halo 2 campaign wise is considered to be the worst in the trilogy.

The new enemies, Brutes and Drones, are just unfun to fight before Reach/3 fixed them. Jackal Snipers. Too many holdout elevator sections. Vehicles feel like they're made of paper when you use them but ridiculously durable when the enemies use them and they also made the Flood even more unfun to fight.

Also I personally think Quarantine Zone is the worst level in the entire original series. Sacred Icon is awful on a first playthrough but then you realize you can just run through most of it.

adapt

I think the arbiter is cool and all but there really wasn't that much going on between him and chief, chief says probably a total of 15 words to him total

It was finished 18 years ago.

Well yeah that's why I said there needs to be more arbiter stuff.

No one outside your echo chamber ever liked your crap. Halo was and still is compared to series with a single badass main character with no one caring about the side characters.

youtube.com/watch?v=zv3a7BA9aoA

No. Halo 2 is the weakest Halo in the trilogy. By a very small margin, Halo 3 is better than Halo CE, and it is also the best Halo game in the series, in my opinion.

youtube.com/watch?v=a3ZGGIdpfEM

Can it ever be topped?

Cheefag, what do you think about the banished now that it's been a few years? Have you grown accustomed to them?

I like ODST trailer more, but this one is hype as fuck. These will never be topped because Halo as a franchise is at its last legs since Microsaar killed xbox

Not him but you got a book, be happy about that.

They're aliens to shoot, dude. It's not that serious. I do hope with Halo Studios's new dawn, they move on from both Covenant and Flood factions eventually. The Endless seem like a way to do that. Just take the Covenant's sandbox gameplay and put it on a completely new alien faction. Fighting the Covenant whether they're purple or red is starting to get old.

Whosoever is gripped by fear, take heed.
I am the Prophet of Truth. And I am not afraid.
Noble Mercy is here at my side, his wise counsel ever in my ears.

They killed the Xbox home console for the same reason they killed old Halo along with 343 Industries. They want a new fan base, not normalfags or mental cases. They seem to be using Nintendo a lot as an example of having organic fanbases and not paid shills.

Though our enemies crowd around us, our feet tread the blessed path! In a moment I will light the rings, and all who believe shall be saved!

That's not videogames.

Maybe some third party or first party will eventually make an Arbiter spin-off at a low budget supervised by Halo Studios.

What do you mean? Xbox and halo are dead due to incompetence and greed. I dont think they were looking for a brand new audience; Microsoft's plan was buying out companies to gain monopoly and calling shotgun on vidya streaming services. Their plans have pretty much failed, so now they are looking to kill xbox because, as a brand, it has been bleeding out money since 360, and they dont give a shit anymore

all the halo games feel like that. that's why they suck.

That's what they're doing now. Those retards screwed up killing off their 2001-2009 audience to chase the normies audience. When that didn't work, they tried to force everyone to get into their streaming service but their real goal here was getting Nintendo and Sony on board with two major goals, purchase Nintendo and kill Sony. Not only did these fail but even Microsoft Corp thought Xbox's idea was stupid and killed it. What we're seeing now is the death of Phil Spencer's Xbox and the birth of Microsoft's Xbox. Windows is the future of Xbox. This will lead to a lot of good thing since the Xbox team is filled with a lot a woke faggots and needed to be gutted.

I just think halo 3 should have been a true sequel to halo 2. Instead they changed practically everything about the world and story. I consider what halo 3's writers did to halo the same as what 343's writers did. Same with mass effect 3's writers. They had their way with something that they had no hand in creating.

funny, that's what halo 2 feeled like after halo ce

Because Halo 2 sucked. It didn't feel like a sequel to Halo 1. Halo 3's campaign was better than 2's but it still didn't come close to 1's. Halo 1 was better because it was the closest Bungie Halo game to Marathon.

The Forward Unto Dawn is still adrift in space. The Master Chief is still in cryo. Microsoft understood the importance of Halo and let it have a satisfying conclusion while it was still popular. Life is good.

If they did that Xbox would be more dead. Microsoft finally realized Nintendo was right and have started copying them in their own way. Keeping their IPs alive along with vaulting them (Nintendo strategy) was one of the smartest decisions they've made with gaming. PlayStation is dead because they keep killing their IPs and replaced them all with woke movie simulators.

They only delayed the inevitable by a little bit, because the later Halo games all sucked and nobody bought a Bone. Halo 4 released a year before the next gen.

Arbiter was a shit character.
Halo 2 was shit because of him.

Not really. Halo 2 only had to show another halo ring and the invasion of earth to be a faithful sequel. Halo CE didn't set up any other plot points for a sequel. Halo 2 added a lot but it didn't contradict anything meaningful. Halo 3 didn't add anything, it only changed things. It suppressed things added by halo 2.
Bringing Johnson back was the only directly contradictory thing about halo 2. And no, bookfags, first strike did not explain it. First strike was retarded and contradicted CE big time.
you have to be 18 to post here

they're cool, enough of a distinction from the original Covenant but still familiar enough to justify the familiar enemy types. I like seeing Brutes that have actual goals and can work alongside Elites instead of just being the Prophets retarded attack dogs.

Infinite had its problems but I thought the stoyr was pretty cool and Escharum was a decent enough antagonist

True, as it currently stands though they're making Nintendo decisions, meaning they're doing what will bring Microsoft success over caring about what normies want or think. This will gain hate but lead to success. The success of the Xbox Series S over the Series X was a wake-up call form them.

it's funny that Halo 3's ending is pretty much a direct admission that though the story is over, the fight is finished, Microsoft will never, ever let Chief rest

Wake me...when you need me to sell more Xboxs...

although I guess he gets to rest now that the series is dead

SET A FIRE IN YOUR HEART SPARTAN
BAAAAAAAAARE YOUR FANGS
FIGHT HARD
FINISH WELL...

doesn't know of classic Marathon

Back at you

actually you cant talk about marathon anymore because mandalore made a video about it, sorry

I didn't even read enough of your post to get to the marathon part. I'm sure that was equally juvenile.

Master Chief is the Samus Aran of the Halo universe, the Ultimate Warrior, the Protector of the Galaxy, you can do a lot with that. Problem isn't that Halo needs to move on from the Master Chief, the problem is that Halo needs to move on from the Covenant and Flood. It makes the universe feel small when you can't expand beyond them. I beat them in Halo 3, move on already.

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narcissism

It means you're immature if you can't even finish it just because Halo 2 ain't some golden standard game that everyone loves. You sound like them liberals who get mad when you tell them something that's common knowledge and sense.

How many years do we need to keep fighting the Covenant and Flood, and no, changing their color from purple to red doesn't change the fact that I'm still fighting the Covenant.

Didn't read, cheefag

This is true. I remember playing Halo 4 for the first time and being fine with a Covenant intro level. Like maybe it's just a small fleet of pirates. But then it turns out it's a "new" Covenant and that was very disappointing. Especially since Prometheans are so dull to fight and the Knights are just "Elites but they teleport"

As bad as 5 was, at least Prometheans felt like their own thing and it's who you fight for most of the adventure.

I'll never forgive them for bungling Truth's character

This guy fucking sucks

True and real

The change in voice actor is for the worse but to be fair, in Halo 2 Truth was a manipulative schemer

In Halo 3, there's not really any schemes left. Everyone is already either firmly with him or against him and all that's left is a mad dash to the Ark's control room. Regret and Mercy are both dead and most of the other Prophets got killed by the Gravemind so it's not like there's any potential rivals.

So I'm not sure what they could have really done besides not changing the voice actor.

At least Michael Wincott didn't have to recite those awful lines.

I'm with the Banished for at least one more game but use the next game as an opportunity to introduce a new challenge for the Master Chief. The Endless is a great replacement for the Flood but we need a new alien faction on the level of the Covenant that replaces them completely from weapons vehicles l, everything. This would be new and bring the rule of cool back to Halo. A new challenge for Master Chief, the Reclaimer, will have to now deal with. Many games do this and it's time for Halo to do it.

Gameplay wise, Halo 2 is rough. It tried to introduce a lot of new things haphazardly. Bungie also really wanted to make a Halo game's campaign as long as they possibly could so they padded it out with gondola sections. I remember in one of their commentaries, they originally wanted Halo 1 to have 20+ missions. I can imagine they had the same idea in mind for Halo 2, but their half year of development stunted those plans.

Story wise it's better in my opinion. It expanded the universe and offered tons of healthy discussion at the time on what story elements any future Halo games could cover. I almost wish that Halo 3 kind of did something similar, but instead it concluded all previous relevant story lines and introduced a new one that didn't live up to the original trilogy. Bungie knew their hands were washed of the series so they didn't have to care about anything post Halo 3.

Escharum was kino
youtu.be/H_nZB0LR0aI?si=ZIksRjXKn2pZ5q7G

In Halo 3, there's not really any schemes left

Yeah because they didn't fucking write any, retard. You are the worst poster in the thread.

Yeah the strafing felt slower than I remembered but that’s probably cause in custom games I always bumped it up. One thing I felt a huge relief for was that there was NO FUCKING SLIDING. GOD I HATE SLIDING IN MODERN FPS. WHY DO THEY ALL HAVE THIS NO MOMENTUM SPAMMABLE SLIDE NOW. IS IT THE ZOOMERS FAULT?

Bungie wanted out of Microsoft since post-CE, the whole point of Halo 3 was to finish the fight so Bungie can leave Microsoft and do their own thing, not Halo. To Bungie, the story was finished.

You could argue his fanaticism is a ruse to keep morale up. He implies it when talking to Johnson. He's still the same Truth, just more hasty as he realizes his end is near.

GAME STARTS
ENTER: INFINITY
CREW CONGRATULATES CHIEF FOR DEFEATING CORTANA
ENTER: PALMER

”NOT BAD FOR A MANLET, HAH!’

ENTER: SPARTAN LOCKEPICKER

”I’m Black”

ENTER: GRIZZLED WARCHIEF ESCHARUM

"HOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOO A GRIZZLY BATTLE SHALL NOW ENSUE....ARHARHARHGHGHGAHRHG"

ESCHARUM KICKS CHIEF IN THE GROIN SO HARD THAT THE SHOCKWAVE RIPS INFINITY APART
MASTER CHIEF BTFO'D INTO ZETA SO HARD IT LITERALLY BREAKS IN HALF

"OOPS, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT, I HOPE ATRIOX DOESN'T FIND OUT..."

ENTER: WARMASTER ATRIOX

"FIND OUT WHAT LITTLE BITCH"

ESCHARUM FALLS TO HIS KNEES...

"AAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE UHH NOTHING"

ESCHARUM TRIES TO COVER THE WINDSHIELD WITH STINKY DIARREAH TO COVER UP THE DESTRUCTION OF ZETA, BUT IT'S NO USE!

"DID YOU BREAK MY HALO, GO FIX IT YOU LITTLE BOY"

ATRIOX PICKS UP ESCHARUM BY THE HEAD AND WITH A FLICK OF THE WRIST SENDS HIM FLYING TOWARDS ZETA AT THE SPEED OF SOUND

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

ESCHARUM LANDS ON ZETA HEAD FIRST, SURVIVED OF COURSE, HE IS A GRIZZLY ONE

"HOHO HOW PAINFUL, OH WHAT A NICE RIPE PIECE OF LAND FOR PROPAGANDA TOWERS"

ESCHARUM PULLS OUT A POWER RANGER WALKIE-TALKIE (yes they are real).

"UNGGOY CONSTRUCTION CREW, REPORT TO ZETA HALO AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF PROPAGANDA TOWERS POST HASTE!!"

WITHOUT DELAY THE BANISHED BEGIN LANDING ON ZETA, BUILDING PROPAGANDA TOWERS, AA TURRETS, MCGRIZZLED RESTRAUNTS AND SISSIFICATION CAMPS FOR GEN 4 SPARTANS.

"HMM WHERE DID THE LITTLE DEMON LAND? OH WELL I SHALL PREPARE OHOHOHO"

CUT TO MASTER QUEEF, LANDED ON ZETA LIKE A BITCH AND STILL PASSED OUT.

"AIEEEE CORTANA WHERE AM I OH WAIT SHES EVIL, OH WAIT SHES DEAD NOOO"

MASTER ROAST BEEF CONTIMPLAINTS SUICIDE BUT THEN REMEMBERS HE HAS A CONTRACT WITH 343 TO PROVIDE ANOTHER CAMPAIGN STORY.

"ANCIENT EVIL..ENDLESS..MEDICANT BIAS?"

MASTER SPLEEF SHITS HIMSELF IN DESPAIR AT THE SINGLE THOUGHT OF ATRIOX AND FLIES BACK INTO SPACE, CAUSING HIS ARMOR TO FREEZE UP, HE IS THEN FOUND BY SOME HOMELESS PILOT....CUT TO BLACK

HALO INFINITE RATED

I'd argue it wasn't much better back then either. Any source engine game of that time has much better movement.

Does MCC still split up your lobby after every match?

If you have to bend over backwards to explain it then it's bad writing

While Halo was faster than the Metroid Prime series, it kind of had the same problem as it, it was slow and sluggish and when playing in now, you can feel its age. At least Halo finally took its classic gameplay and properly modernized it with Infinite. Prime 4 lost me when it played exactly like it did in 2002.

Played first 3 games recently. Second game ends in a cool place. I wonder how will 3rd start after that cliffhanger.
It's starts in a fucking jungle. Also everyone teleported there because reasons. And Arbiter becomes npc because fuck you.

That's Halo 2's fault retard. He was already on his way to the Ark. Nothing left to do but get into the control room and activate the Array. If anything, 3 added a scheme because he needed to go through the portal on Earth first and only he knew that.

Original Halo trilogy took 7 years, it's been 13 years Halo 4. We didn't know how things were

Wow not a single (you)
This site has fallen.

Havok engine is posting new stuff to YouTube so hopefully someone at MS finally woke the fuck up and they'll be bringing physics back for the next game. I still play MCC most nights and it has more players than infinite. There's always packed custom games that barely even have objectives and why? Because it's just fun, because of the physics. To this day there isn't a single game vehicle more fun to drive than a warthog. Best games.

Anon Babble.org/banned

he wants every fps game to play exactly the same

needs less arbiter stuff
wtf is dudebro focus groups? use millennial dialogue like a normal halo fan, faggot.

If your game plays like dated shit l, it needs to modernize. You non-gaming shitheads is why this series is dead. You look at other series that had a successful resurgence because the developers were willing to take risks and modernize their gameplay and you see Halo do and its autistic fanbase that came in with Halo 3, not Halo 1, scream like little kids over smallest changes while still wanting to keep fighting the Covenant and Flood forever despite those factions being defeated in the third game. You losers are mentally ill.

Actual Halo fans/gamers. That retard is mad because he was in the minority and still is. He's just loud

Anon, 343i did just what you asked for 3 games in a row and somehow can't build up an audience for their slop.
Also, people still play classic Halo.

You need to crank the FOV up to 120

muh your game needs to follow the trends

my dopamine levels must be fulfilled!

lmao filtered by 20+ year old game

343I only did it with Infinite and it failed because they both sucked at their jobs being led by a woman, of course, and because they never dropped Bungie's broken engine while still trying to push multiplayer which was failing to singleplayer games. Halo 4-5 we're just COD trash while Halo 5 tried to replace Chief, something that already failed with Bungie. 343 Industries is a shining example of why women shouldn't be allowed to lead. They listen to small autistic loud groups over regular people/gamers. I have more trust in Halo Studios alone simply because it's led by a man.

Anon talks about infinite

Retard posts a picture of halo 5

playing with a controller

Found your problem and increase your fov retard.

It's all the same junk.

343I only did it with Infinite

Revisionism and delusional.

it failed because they both sucked at their jobs being led by a woman

Have sex, incel.

I have more trust in Halo Studios

It's the same goddamn studio, retard.

playing with a controller

You made that up in your head, anon.

thinking pee poo pee would not do the same with shitfinite

you must be a newfag

Doom is a shining example of how you bring a series back and modernize it. You retards are holding it back. Now that Bonnie Ross is gone, series can move on without you and that starts with a full-blown remakes. Prepare for Human = Forerunner to be completely thrown out with the remakes.

Infinite had thrusters like Halo 5

I know the game is shit, but this level of revisionism is mental illness.

Cope and seethe retard.

Halo Infinite modernized the classic gameplay of Halo. Halo 4 and 5 did not. Halo 4 and 5 just replaced Halo's gameplay in order to make it big like those other shooters but not be itself. Halo 4 and 5 are worse than Reach. At least Reach was a spin-off.

I'm sorry your dudebro series plays like shit, gagdeep. I know you only just found out about Halo in 2018 when you got your first smartphone. The saddest part is that 343i doesn't even pay you to defend their game, you do it for free kek.

1. Halo is dead
2. halo 1-3 took more skill than any other shooter to date.
it had more decision making than quake based on pacing, shield regen, and ttk
ill die on this hill.

Forgot

defending women

Kill yourself, tranny

same studio

Ran by a man so it's already better because of just that alone.

but but but nu-doom!!!!

Halo 4 and 5 are literally just modernized Halo. You're still strafing while shooting BRs at each other.

go back to your garbage fortnited fps zoom zoom

he never played shitfinite

newfag

The halo zoomer shitjeet thinks he's an oldfag because he played a newfag arena fps

Kek, you literally cannot make this up.

too bad about the BR hell post 1

Why is Halo's TTK better? You will not be able to answer this properly.

They are not, they are Call of Duty in space. Halo Infinite is modernized Halo.

They're the exact same shit as Infinite. Just Halo with sprint, gimmick abilities, and adding unnecessary scopes and headshot damage to every gun.

pistol was spammy trash and never consistent wtf
br is the goat
pistol ttk is aids but h1 is still a million times better than reach 4 5 or infinite.

Halo Infinite modernized the classic gameplay of Halo

Lowering a weapon is not modernizing.

Look who's on top and look who's dead. Microsoft also owns COD and Overwatch making Halo's MP redundant.

Not him but slower TTK requires constant skill and environmental awareness. It also encourage teamwork and focus firing.

implying and seething

wash your hands pedro

wouldn't faster ttk require more environmental awareness? the downside is that you can't get skilful reversals

im not even sure what you're asking
better than what?

They play nothing like Halo.

pistol ttk is aids but h1 is still a million times better than reach 4 5 or infinite.

Can't argue with that.

Doesn't deny being a shitjeet who's first fps was halo

Immediately does the thing every shitjeet does when exposed

You couldn't answer it either.
The real best is a large disparity between optimal and average TTK. Good players should get a very fast kill, but the normal engagement shouldn't just be over in an instant.
Halo is the exact same "who sees who first" gameplay as COD, but it takes 4 times as long. Because it's all homogenized with slow move speed, generous autoaim, and health regen that guarantees every 1v1 encounter starts on equal footing.

You couldn't answer it either.

He gave you an answer, you just don't like the answer because no answer is good enough for you.

They play nothing like Halo.

Why not?
The pistol is consistent if you're good.

in grade 11 when this comes out

buddy and i skip the entire day to play it

miss english class where they handed out copies of "lord of the flies"

have to check out old crappy copies from the library

reading aloud in class

get to the part where the tribal society begins to break down

piggy yells "you're all acting like a pack of painted natives"

our old copies have the original line "pack of painted niggers"

mfw

Halo Infinite literally plays like the trilogy but with some modern elements thrown in.

None of what he said is exclusive to games with a slow TTK. In fact, it's more important when you can die quickly. Slow guns give you lots of time to disengage, and in Halo's case, reset the fight.

Allowing third worlders on the Internet truly was a mistake. Everything you said makes so much sense.

ttk is too fast which kills the weapon sandbox. it's fine besides that imo.

Look who's on top and look who's dead

"but M$ ows this and that!"

The only dead here is M$ and their shitty Microsoft Studios branch.

Halo 4 has flinch and many other COD elements, Halo 5 has ADS and PTW. The AAs and SAs also broke both games.

Why do people that complain about everyone being Indian or Mexican shit up every single thread?

Sure pedro. Keep suck it hard

Slower ttk means the environment can get in the way while duelling. Either mistakes happen or players can use covers and obstacles to get an upper hand.
I gave you an answer. Take it or leave it.

Halo is the exact same "who sees who first" gameplay as COD

It's not, reversals happen all the time.

guarantees every 1v1 encounter starts on equal footing

Assuming everyone has the same weapons, I fail to see the issue here. Want to get an upper hand? Get a power weapon or a generic weapon that is more effective at a specific encounter range, AR VS BR at close range for example or the reverse for mid to long range encounters.

Halo 4 has flinch

So does Reach.

Halo 5 has ADS

So does Infinite.

The AAs and SAs also broke both games

They're present in Infinite.

Infinite doesn’t play like the trilogy. What are you talking about?

ill answer since you asked me first

without turning it into too much of a word salad

longer ttks matter because if the other player is good you're actually required to do some decision making. you're not just shooting him once literally no matter what position he is in and getting the kill, so imo position matters even less if you can kill or be killed from anywhere

if you shoot a guy twice and out manouvers you WHILE shooting around tight corridors (something that cant reallyl be done in quake because the ttk is fairly fast and there's a lot of big open areas on their maps) you deserve to die
miss your chance and his shields go up? then out got outplayed
this doesn't happen in any other shooter.
ive honestly hated every shooter since halo 3 (2 is better) because no other game has been able to capture this, something that legitimately takes skill and not just muscle memory, not just kowning something the othe other player doesnt (i.e. fortnites constantly changing meta)

Making more money than they ever did, lmao. They don't even consider Halo a major series on the level of COD anymore, lol.

Slower ttk means the environment can get in the way while duelling.

It gets in the way in a fast TTK game, too. Why does that inherently make it better?

Either mistakes happen or players can use covers and obstacles to get an upper hand.

See above.

It's not

It is. Reversals are a rarity. More often than not, it's a trade or whoever got the first shot dies. The only time this isn't true is in teamshot scenarios. Halo's only skill expression comes from how well someone can noscope.

Assuming everyone has the same weapons, I fail to see the issue here.

It's boring, and means map control is much less important. Chip damage is entirely absent from Halo, because people get their health back so quickly.

Triples down

I'm surprised you guys moved so quickly from accusing everyone of being chinks to accusing everyone of being spics. In another thread you're probably saying "ackshually that monitor lizard was raped by pakis, not indians, us indians are bros and we're white too!" but that will never change the fact that you are a smelly disgusting streetshitting indian and everyone here can tell by your typing style.

if you shoot a guy twice and out manouvers you WHILE shooting around tight corridors (something that cant reallyl be done in quake

You know nothing about Quake. Stuff like that happens all the time.

So does Reach.

No, it doesn't

So does Infinite.

Infinite's isn't even real ADS like Halo 5's was.

They're present in Infinite.

Infinite has equipment.

Infinite plays like a modernized trilogy.

getting caught out int he open and losing half your health in seconds is a huge flaw because the maps are big
your health isn't coming back either and the only way to turn it around after such a "blunder" is if the other guy also; blunders

I find it very funny that Chief only says literally one single word to Arbiter in the entirety of Halo 3, especially since in the previous game Chief was perfectly happy to talk to him while they were both captured by the Gravemind. It's like he's spending the entire game sulking after being told the Elites are on their side now.

faggots talking about modernising the fps genre

meanwhile the KING of FPS's going strong every single year

types all that shit

No reading that faggot

No, it doesn't

Yes it does. If you get hit by a sniper, it throws your reticle away. Not to mention the DMR literally pulls your reticle toward the enemy when you're taking damage.

Infinite's isn't even real ADS

Visually, maybe not. Functionally, it's exactly like ADS. No descope, accuracy boost, range boost. While 5's looks like regular ADS, you still get descoped.

Infinite has equipment.

Literally the exact same shit.

getting caught out int he open and losing half your health in seconds is a huge flaw because the maps are big

Don't position yourself poorly and that won't happen. Halofags want to run out in the middle of a completely open field and then complain when people shoot at them.

No reading

It was only a matter of time before you outed yourself as a filthy ESL brown raperat. You look fucking stupid lmao.

i can't believe we have to share this website with these people because someone decided to give them smartphones with cheap internet access. what the fuck is wrong with them?

it's king because it is what modernized it in the first place scrub
quake still suffers from the who sees who first problem, its just not as extreme as cs
regen fixes that.
sometimes entire fights can be for nothing in halo because yhou just straight up dont know how to be aggressive or defensive.

I'm specifically talking about singleplayer. I don't believe Halo's multiplayer has a future. I believe the multiplayer-only Halo game in development will fail and Microsoft will relegate to just being a singleplayer-only series. Mainline games will only start Chief, spin-offs will do their own thing. Like nuDoom.

quake still suffers from the who sees who first problem

Not really, because it's fast and relatively difficult to hit people in. Between encounters, you're meant to build your stack to give yourself better odds vs the opponent. You can't exactly do that in Halo because pickups spawn way too slowly. You also challenge based on what weapons the enemy has access to.

regen fixes that.

Regen rewards bad decisions and erases all progress at the end of a fight. It's gay.
Halo casuals love to point toward Quake for having a "useless" starting weapon, but fail to understand that the MG is one of the best cleanup weapons possible.

Literally the exact same shit.

It's not, AAs you never lose until you die, SAs were default player abilities. Infinite's equipments are either one-time uses like Halo 3's or limited uses.

Uh, but movement inertia is there to prevent people from strafing so much like faggots.

It's not

It is. They're items you can pull out of your ass whenever you want. Jetpack and grapple break map verticality, repulsor and armor lock both deflect projectiles safely, drop shield and drop wall are obvious, etc.
Making them infinite-use isn't such a radical change that they completely change how the game is played. You're still just shooting people with a headshot weapon for every kill and occasionally picking up rockets.

keeps replying

Pure autism. Kys.

Infinite's equipments are like sudo-AAs.

you know speed literally isn't everything either
yea your character moves super fast but then they're forced to make "kill zones" (distance from one piece of cover to the other) bigger
meaning areas where someone can die from if they're spotted first. this is a bad thing.

if you got someone 1 shot and couldn't finish it you're just bad lol

It gets in the way in a fast TTK game, too. Why does that inherently make it better?

It make positioning more important. It also allows people to get away. More tactical choices is a good thing in my book.

Reversals are a rarity

Works in my machine. See webm related.

It's boring, and means map control is much less important.

Anon, do you even play Halo?

Halo's only skill expression comes from how well someone can noscope.

Oh no, it's retarded.

he saves pajeet videos on his pc

I found the brown lover

Struck a nerve, did I, suhkdik?

you know speed literally isn't everything either

No, it's not. But it is a major factor as to what makes Quake good.

yea your character moves super fast but then they're forced to make "kill zones" (distance from one piece of cover to the other) bigger

Not really.

meaning areas where someone can die from if they're spotted first. this is a bad thing.

Why?

you're gonna have to watch this if you wanna understand player speed, map layouts (why some maps suck and others dont) if you wanna understand this better. im out.
youtube.com/watch?v=iedeG7SVPCE

NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SHOW PEOPLE THAT WE-- I MEAN PAKIS EAT SHIT! PEOPLE WILL THINK THESE PAKIS ARE BRAHMIN WHEN ACTUALLY THEY'RE NOT

I believe the multiplayer-only Halo game in development will fail and Microsoft will relegate to just being a singleplayer-only series.

More likely that Halo will just be put on the shelf for a decade or so now that Microsoft owns a bunch of other big gaming IPs and they seem to be moving away from the traditional exclusives-fuelled console war approach. At this point my only hope/wish for Halo as a series is for the MCC to get put on PS+ when it inevitably comes to Playstation, the population explosion would be incredible.

Why?

why is having cover super far a bad thing? LOL bro...i can't anymore

he got filtered by controller fps

Halo never needed "modernizing" whatever the fuck that means. CoD hasn't changed at all in 15 years and it's still CoD. They simply abandoned what made Halo successful to chase CoD which clearly hasn't worked out.

He should have been the one that was caught by the flood form on High Charity. All of his plans he spent so long setting up come crashing down by sheer chance as he's left to helplessly watch the retard who actually believes in the great journey now go on his way to the ark to kill everyone and Halo 3 plays out the same.