4 niggas

I've beat them all, I had to Berserk cheese doomtree. Haunts me to this day.

blacks will never be funny

6 niggas

NINE niggas

For me, it’s four white suburban middle class kids in a row

V's Job System is fun BECAUSE its so broken.

3x5 niggas

I'm going to make a 4 niggas game.

I like the UI of this one

I was blindsided by this battle, he is a big difficult spike

no matter how strong you are

if you're actually strong, he won't get to grand cross because you kill that bodypart first.
The real bullshit is almaghest because that can literally oneshot you if you're not overlevelled

On the DS version you mean? Sure.
But normal FFIV is very easy until Zeromus.

Almagest is fine, just cast Shell and it will do half damage.

I wish there were more games with 5. The only other FF I can think of is Dimensions of all things (even though it's more 4+Guest until the end) and I like it there, too.

should I get the pixel remaster collection for switch?

The whole final dungeon is cheap. I had fun with the game up until that point and I had to just drop it cause everything was hitting me for over 1000 damage and my party only had like 1700-2100 HP, the spike in difficulty is insane.

If it's a hacked switch just emulate the original.
Otherwise eh why not

more than enough to kill any god that lives!

Tru, but at least you can switch to freelancer and get stat boosts from all your mastered classes. That and using buffs is very helpful, I actually appreciated the having a difficult finale.
With Neo Exdeath not really, I figured out how to deal with Almagest for instance but Grand Cross has no counter, you just pray it doesn't end your game.

Depends on which one.
1 and 2 are fine, 3 is the only good version, and 4 to 6 are good but miss the extra content from the GBA versions.

at least you can switch to freelancer and get stat boosts from all your mastered classes

That's the shit that actually pissed me off and pushed me to quit.
I only had mastered 2 jobs on everyone (1 on Galuf/Krile cause I was very satisfied with Galuf on monk) so I had an insane grind ahead of me to get much of anything for Freelancer bonus. Pretty sure nothing the game even mentions that shit being a mechanic, and its a shit mechanic cause it just undermines the entire idea of building a team, instead you're meant to just max as much as possible and have everything on Freelancer.

and its a shit mechanic cause it just undermines the entire idea of building a team

The failing of Jarpiggies is that they feel OBLIGATED to grind and minmax instead of accepting what they have and work with it. No, you aren't meant to grind out every single job to max level and use Freelancer/Mime, you're meant to have 1-2 jobs mastered and work with what you've got, then try other things on repeat playthroughs with your new knowledge from the first run.
Just because you fell for the modern gaming meme where games are 1-and-done disposable products that you're not supposed to engage with ever again except for the first playthrough doesn't change the reality. You're the same kind of retard who credit feeds an arcade game and thinks the game is inferior for being "too short" "no content" and "too easy" without playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

You can pretty easily kill him before he casts either.

ff5 has superbosses though

I liked radiant historia's mmbn grid and enemy stacking for combos

Yeah but they're super easy to cheese. You really don't need a very strong party at all. Omega especially can't do shit since you can just have 3 bards stunlock him and the other guy freely beat him to death.

Bartz

I hate translators they're fucking idiots.
Also interesting job setup.

NOOOOOO THE TWINS DIE

OH NOO, THE OLD FART DIES

OH NO, THE (insert other characters that died. I played this game 20 years ago I forgot the plot except that your character becomes dark knight => good knight)

Nevermind they're all alive for the final boss =)

Even at ten I was pissed. You can't just build up stakes, death, then undo it.

you're meant to have 1-2 jobs mastered and work with what you've got

That's literally what I tried to do and it got me nowhere.

Just because you fell for the modern gaming meme blah blah blah

Whole lot of projecting you're doing over nothing, fucking hell. I play old games primarily, in the last year and a half I've played through the first 5 Megami Tensei games on their original versions, and I'm currently doing a replay of SMT if... to see the Akira route, which is only available after finishing the game.

That's literally what I tried to do and it got me nowhere.

Skill issue, because FF5 can be beaten solo with any job in the game. Just because you couldn't figure out how to make the game work for you by engaging with the mechanics and chose to outgrind them instead speaks to your lack of intellect.
Maybe you should go play a game with less mentally-straining mechanics like Clair Obscur or Paper Mario instead.

A challenge playthrough being doable means nothing. Final dungeon is still a crazy spike in difficulty, and feels very bullshit to run into.

Just because you couldn't figure out how to make the game work for you by engaging with the mechanics and chose to outgrind them

I asked people online for advice nearly a decade ago when I was playing FFV and the advice I was given was to grind and master more jobs, cause that was apparently the intended way to play the game and what I should have been doing the whole time.

Cool story but I still accuse you of being this guy.

Persona

WHAT FUCKING GAME

But you only control the front three at once

how many niggas in a row are ideal?

ATB shit

Play FF2 if you want party members dieing

I've started playing FFIV, V and VI again after decades, they are really overrated and haven't aged well.

penelo is a qtpie

he said 2, not 12

I stand by my assertion

Penelo killed millions of party members.

V on GBA had Exdeath?

DS Golbez filtered me when it came out.
I spent hours trying to brute force guess his weakness because I always wrote off Libra as useless.

The only big ass pull was the elder un-petrifying Palom & Porom off screen without him saying he'd probably get around to it later- since it makes sense he'd be able to use the teleporter to Baron and waltz into the castle.
Cid is alive in a bed after he detonates the bomb and Yang is kept alive in a secret dungeon by a squad of magical healing fairys.

Since the overall subtext of the game is that hatred is a parasite that drives you to hurt yourself and others it makes sense the only actual forever death was a hate fueled suicide; and you go on living, in a way, when you do good things.

Get a girlfriend

No, I don't think I will.

5 > 6 = 4 > 3 > more than 6 > less than 3

yuck

GBA FF1 was the last turn-cringe RPG I played (besides CT replays).
I am sorry but turn-cringe has to go.

if you have access to shell then that means you rolled WM and naturally everything in the game is easy
...there are people who play this without FJF rules? How do you not fall asleep while playing?

Just mastere the jobs that give the highest stat boosts for your characters build. Only need to level the rest of the jobs until you get the abilities you want to use.

FF5 can be beaten solo with any job in the game.

chose to outgrind

Funny you phrase things that way, because that was literally the only way the solo zerker run was completed. The guy doing it had like 16 copies of the game running on fastforward on an emulator, and had a script to reload the savestate at the start of exdeath upon gameover. Left them running for hours until eventually one got enough RNG (misses on key enemy spells, procs on gaia hammer) to win. He was naturally at 100, too.
It is the epitome of grinding to win.

Master*

anon, Exdeath was the villain of V

Stats in 5 are largely irrelevant in 5. There's really no reason to bother with mime/freelancer. The game isn't hard.

I specifically remember casting LIT3 with Tellah and one shotting that water turtle.

this would be so much better if you had to do qte's for both offense and defense

*smooch*

The guy who did that is a retard who didn't even mini his berserker for the free evasion boost.

Alright niggas, let's settle this once and for all. How many niggas in a row is best?

strawpoll.com/NoZrz9AADZ3

3 is the best size, 4+ feels like filler

ENTER

28 niggas

hitting rings was fun but at the end of the game I really got tired of hitting QTEs constantly in every fight
maybe I just dont like active combat systems in my jrpg unless its full action like tales, probably why I never finish a paper mario game too

shit i cant count it's actually 32 niggas

How many of those niggas could Garland knock down?

4 niggas is the best, you have

tank

dps

healer

and a free slot to fit in some wild card, either some debuffer, a buffer, another dps. Anything else fewer than 4 niggas is too little, and more than 4 niggas is too much and a chore to keep track of.

That's a column, not a row

in a diamond

4 truly is the right number of niggas in a row.

I don't like 3.

SIX NIGGAS IN TWO ROWS

Poo

white

Enchant Farm

boomers see three triangles on the screen and start rethinking the meaning of creation

neo exdeath looks like a giant horse, anyone else?

4 Niggas in 3 rows positioned unevenly

more like one nigga with a robe and a bunch of cards asking your questions

youtu.be/mhsacIcTHSE?si=-r_YkS58Ss58dQm_&t=482

6

All of the niggas

Haha that one kid got a dookie haircut

if your poo is coming out white you might have a problem

I TURNED MYSELF INTO A SPLINTER, BARTZ
I'M SPLINTER EXDEATH!

EMBARASSING

*blocks your path*

literally same thing happened to me. rydia never saved me :(

with an ATB system or some other timer/action based combat for commands: 3
If standard Turn Based: 4

Any more, battles become bogged down and slow
Any less and you lose too much strategic elements from having a party system in the first place.

Big enough to fit all the cute girls I want to breed.

ayyo this shit poppin, got a lotta niggas

what game? the art is nice

God Dinah is so hot
Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2

Krile best girl

Bro...
I'm going to spoonfeed you just because I want more people playing SM.

wow it's a gba game? I thought it was a hentai game. That's absurd

test

I ask for sauce because I enjoy the social interaction, I get the story AND the name of the content normally. It is really giving you a chance to express your passion something rather than a clinical google search

You'd think the genre would be played out by now but then I play something like Enchant Farm and realize there's still ideas people can explore. This and Helen's Mysterious Castle made me wish more people tried their own similar style games but it's really easy to fall into the temptation of making a shitty FF1 instead.

I wish more people used FFV's job system, it allows for SO much customization potential but people just refuse to expand on it.
I also wish more people tried experimenting with Mother 3's music based combo system but the only times I see it mentioned online are for never ever/ perma dev-hell indie games.

2many niggas in a diagonal

4 and 5’s final bosses are shit. Zeromus instantly nukes you if you try to use magic

youtube.com/watch?v=oyzsRJW3Xxw
One of the hypest final battle themes in the entire franchise

Autobattler before autobattlers were a thing

What a visionary dev

Just coin toss it lmao

I think Exdeath's other theme is even better.
youtube.com/watch?v=df7wWItAJdg

Oh its absurd alright.

Real krile isn't a potato hag

seems based

Dinah

To be fair four dudes have literally insurrected entire nations bro

Coup’d them alone

Speaking of job systems, though it's not really one in any form, I like the process of unlocking the different mages in DisGAYa and them pushing you to constantly Reincarnate them so they keep their spells while gaining the new ones. Having a Mage in endgame with a shitload of magic coverage is fun and I know I earned it by grindan in da grindan gaem,

1 was better but 2 had more QoL. I still have a sealed copy of 2, and a CIB of 1.

She's better as a potato

Well theyre side by side and were just watching third person perspective.

2 had more QoL

I don't remember anything in 2 being better in terms of QoL

Dinah is the quality of life.

3 niggas (2 in the back)

FJF is for fucking trannies

Die

TWO ROWS OF NIGGAS

my nigga bartz with that nice hat. dam fine hat.

Haven't all the ff after 6 been 3 niggas in a row?

nigga skirmish

sameface :|

That's one nigga too many!

Devs can't into job systems because even if they do, they forget what makes FF3/FF5/FFX-2 fun to play in the first place and you end up with boring shit like Crystal Project.
And M3's combo shit is just a worse and more drawn out version of timed hits which is already not a good thing to add to a JRPG unless you're literally making the game for the goo goo ga ga demographic.

FF9 was 4 niggas

and the battle speed suffered because of it