It's been established since 2008 that tieflings were turned into tieflings by asmodeus in an attempt to make them...

That's the point, they just plonked a bunch of asmodeus tieflings in the game and called it good. The game actually has virtually nothing to do with descent despite being a sequel.

The implication is that the tieflings in BG3 are supposed to be zariel tieflings but larian tried to distance themselves from descent so much they made them asmodeus tieflings in a soft retcon. Probably because everybody know descent was a failure commercially

she was sent to the hells before the descent

Even if this is the case the implication is that zariel was in fact turning people into tieflings, that plot is just dropped like a sack of rotten fish by larian

Anon you seem to have your timeline wrong, Karlach has been in the hells for 10 years, and the descent happened a few months prior to the game.

Even if this is the case the implication is that zariel was in fact turning people into tieflings

There is no implication to this. Nothing in the descent implies this. The city wasn't even in the hells that long.

So does bg3 have monstergirls with HUGE BOOBS?
A game made in 2000 had balls to do this.

She literally turns anybody that enters into a contract with her a zariel tiefling, just like asmodeus only it effects non tieflings

So does bg3 have monstergirls with HUGE BOOBS?

Technically yes. If you like ogres.

She literally turns anybody that enters into a contract with her a zariel tiefling

No one in the city did that which is the whole point of the module. Like are you confused Wyll's dad isn't a tiefling as well?

who gives a shit just turn your brain off and enjoy it you autist

Larian retconned nothing. The people of Elturel weren't turned into Tieflings by the Descent, nor was that the goal in the first place. The people you meet in BG3 were citizens who got thrown out for being Tieflings because they got blamed for what Zariel did. And the canon ending of Descent was Elturel being saved, but Zariel remaining an Archdevil, which is what Larian was forced to work with too.
If you spent even 5 minutes actually researching this shit before posting, you'd not embarrass yourself like this.

She literally turns anybody that enters into a contract with her a zariel tiefling,

She doesn't. This is not how Warlocks or contracts with Fiends work. You simply must stop showcasing your absolute ignorance like this.

No one in the city did that

Huh? The entire army did

Wyll's dad

That random ass character in act 2 is wyll's dad? the plot was really falling apart at that point

enters into contract with Hellriders

they don't honor the contract

a hundred years later return as an archdevil

curse everybody with lineage to the hellriders with being a zariel tiefling

Seems everybody wants to forget this

Zariel put the infernal engine in her, she was already a Tiefling before that, in fact she grew up like one as Mol did you would know this if you played the game.

How can she already be a zariel tiefling if baldur's gate wasn't sucked into avernus?

No one cares, chinese shill

A thread about a random npc in a random quest

Hitting bump limit because the jannies can't tell a botted thread from a legit one

Embarrassing for everyone involved

Even if that is the case......

That is the case and you are doing chick shit you don't get to just hand wave away you being wrong and then try and move the conversation foward as if you aren't.

Karlach was a tiefling pre-descent and wasn't turned into one by Zariel. Most likely she was perfect to test the proto Steel Watch heart specifically because she was a tiefling.

Zariel Tieflings existed before the descent. Every single archdevil is going to have them.

So karlach is like 200 years old

bg3 shill is from the ecker's discord, and ecker has ties to mods, if not a mod himself.
If you accidentally stumble onto his ban evader tool IP range he instantly lifts range bans off you.

zariel didn't exist before the descent, the being that preceded her doesn't even have a wikipedia page

You aren't fooling anyone anymore, you don't care about china at all. BG3 just hurt your feefees. If you did care, you would actually post in other threads about chinese games, but you don't. You only ever bot your comments in BG3 threads.

zariel didn't exist before the descent

She pulled all the stuff with the hellriders 150 years before the descent.

NTA, other games do not hide it.
The reason you hate that pointed out is because it shows Larian is no a privately owned company and it has to report sales to Tencent, meaning there is a report, which they are actively hiding, meaning the concurrents were botted.

which was written in 2017, hellriders have been around as a concept at least since 1987. They took this 30 year old lore about a martial culture and turned it into a single event that damned their entire lineage to be cursed to be tieflings.

Bullshit. I never saw him in Stellar Blade threads for example, and that game absolutely has Tencent stake, as much or moreso than BG yet everyone ignores it or claims it is solely Shiftup.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus is set in 1492 DR

Baldur's Gate 3 takes place in 1492 DR

Zariel turned in 1354 DR but that would just be when her tieflings began not when everyone of them were created.

Anon, Stellar Blade is an eastern game. Of course it fucking has a tencent stake. Nobody is surprised by this.
Here in those threads, hovewer, it's actively hidden, and is a bannable offence to mention because it shows it's "success" is faked.

it shows Larian is no a privately owned company and it has to report sales to Tencent, meaning there is a report, which they are actively hiding, meaning the concurrents were botted.

I'm a bit confused how

tancent has a stake

Equates to

the success is fake

Walk me through that one.

Zariel is captured and tortured for hundreds of years and then somehow becomes an archdevil. She returns and sucks the city into avernus. The adventure to save it of course takes place at the ass end of the adduction because somehow, you end it. But there's no canon ending.

If Zariel abducted elturel, turned everybody into tieflings and then died in the span of a year then that's pretty retarded writing. Also if karlach was "sold 10 years before descent" that means she hadn't had contact with zariel yet and wouldn't be a teifling yet, as zariel tieflings are people with hellrider blood meaning karlach is descended from the hellriders. Which is why she was forced to fight for zariel.

Meaning at best in the game's timeline elturel was in avernus for 10 years. The wiki doesn't even say when the city was returned to the material plane. Lol. Talk about shitty writing

He fundamentally doesn't understand what concurrent players actually means.

Zariel is captured and tortured for hundreds of years and then somehow becomes an archdevil. She returns and sucks the city into avernus

See you have the timeline wrong on this one, he becomes an archdevil 150 years before she sucks the city into avernus.

Meaning at best in the game's timeline elturel was in avernus for 10 years.

Anon the game takes place in the same year as when Elturel was sucked into Avernus, it was in there less than a few months.

Close, but a bit different way.

It's a le PRIVATE COMPANY

they DON'T HAVE to report their sales!

But it totally sold a lot!!!

Look at the concurrent players!!!

No you're not allowed to question that

no you're not allowed to mention the tencent stake

no they never reported the sales

but it's totally 15 mil

no they will not prove it because they are a priva-

STOP IT WITH THE TENCENT

LOOK AT CONCURRENTS

In other words, tencent having a stake shows actual sales are hidden, which means it's a flop.
Hiding sales = flop,
tencent = proof sales are hidden.
They would not need to hide sales if concurrents were real.

It means early access players were playing day one because they waited for it, and it's 2.5mil sold copies playing around the clock, which sounds about right in this situation.

Anon are you just retarded? The timeline is not confusing here.

1354 DR Zariel becomes archdevil

1482 Karlach is sold to Zariel

1492 DR Zariel sucks Elturel into Avernus

1492 DR Elturel is returned to the mortal plane

1492 DR BG3 happens

Are they hiding sales? Because the CEO said they sold 15 million, that doesn't seem like hiding sales to me.

Right she was magic'd into an archdevil by asmodeus himself, the guy that turned all the tieflings into his tieflings.

The wiki says she was reinstated as leader of avernus "during the latter part of the 15th century." That's exactly when the game occurs. Meaning AT BEST she was only active for ~10 years before the events of the game which was when she turned everybody into tieflings. Which coincides with karlach beign sent to avernus.

So yes 150 years have passed, but technically the main story has been on pause for 140 years. This is probably so that larian could horribly tie the events to their ham fisted mindflayer plot

Meaning AT BEST she was only active for ~10 years before the events of the game

Zariel was arch devil in 1444 when the Vampire lords took over Elturel, thus she had been in that position for 40 years by the time Karlach was sold. Again anon the timeline here is not hard.

I always liked Bel more, reasonable devil general is cool. He's too busy to fuck you over unless you try to fuck with him

Seems wizards fucked up since in 2014 she was a side character that was mentioned having taken control of avernus in the 1480's

Who gives a fuck about any of this you lil nerd?
I enjoy the gameplay, i enjoy the quests, i enjoy the rpg mechanics, i enjoy the exploration, i enjoy the level design, i enjoy the music, i enjoy the dialogue.

all those lore books in the game? i dont give a fuck about.

the gameplay is hotdog water meaning the only thing left is the lore

retarded screeching noises

What did you say?

It's not even an entertaining movie

I want to shove a golf club up your ass

gameplay

clunky dogshit like all PnP sims

quests

generic

rpg mechanics

lesser system for idiots

exploration

generic

level design

redundant

music

down by the river down by the river down by the river

dialogue

mostly horrendous

0/10 effort, try harder

0/10

like almost all CRPGs

These are the most least organic threads on Anon Babble
Here's the gameplay the chinese shills are paid to hide

Wow you put so much thought into something that's completely wrong.

Rare W
Thats great gameplay, thanks for the webm!

No thanks

Yeah bro. They're totally shilling a 2-year-old game.

They literally are to save the company valuation after falling into the shitter with the failed D&D acquisition. Tencent lost millions. They need every cent.

I will, it will cure your brain damage trust me bro

Is that what the shrink told you before your transition

?

You have put much more thought into who what why, and where than the cuck squad. Allow me to inform you of their writing process "Tieflings are supposed to represent racism, and are actually not evil abominations twisted by evil gods.

You are LARPING xD

No, I prefer tabletop. They've made public statements to this effect, well not the part about them not being abominations, they just never touched D&D, or even played the earlier games in the series.

I prefer tabletop

Karlach is a character from the descent that was turned into a tiefling by zariel

I'm not going to claim I'm an expert on this shit, but there was nothing in my playthrough of the game that made me think she was not born a tiefling.

The simplest explanation is that Larian went all in on the woke modern fantasy dnd aesthetic so that necessitated them putting Tieflings everywhere in the game, because Tieflings are an ugly demonic nigger race. I liked BG3 when it came out but looking back on it now it’s hard to stomach how fucking gay and ugly the game is. It’s nowhere near as bad as something like Veilguard but it still has too much of that immersion-breaking tumblr vibe and aesthetic.

immersion-breaking

This is not an "Immersion" game you mouthbreathing retard.

I don't play D&D these days on account of the persistent effort to make it more lame, and gay. I play a Cyberpunk, and Call of Cthulu game bi-weekly, and plan to get a vtm game going soon.

It doesn't fit. There's nobody from her past so there's no wait to actually verify. But considering that zariel was said to have taken control of avernus 10 years before the events of the game and that's the exact point karlach was sold to zariel it's pretty heavily implied zariel enslaved and turned karlach along with all the other people from elturel

Good for you bro! stick to your principles.

Just stop LARPING xD

There's nobody from her past so there's no wait to actually verify.

Wrong. Did you play the game?

A good fantasy world suspends your disbelief in a way that immerses you in the world. BG3 has too many moments where I can see the developers leftist millennial politics bleeding through into the writing and design which takes me out of the game. For example Karlach’s design and swearing and in general speaking like a modern butch lesbian, and the constant out of place homosexual and black NPCs (we even get a few black elves and dwarves which is immersion destroying on a whole other level)

A good fantasy world suspends your disbelief in a way that immerses you in the world

Source?

This was the moment where my exhaustion with the game originally started to boil over

There's nobody from her past so there's no wait to actually verify.

There literally is. The armor/weapon seller infront of Soceries is her friend from before the hells and talks about her and the good old days.
You'd think your old friend would mention you becoming a devil.
bg3.wiki/wiki/Fytz
So we are back to you not knowing what you are talking about. Are you going to try and brush past you making shit up and repeat yourself again?

You run into a friend or Karlach’s from before she got sent to hell. Even if they were truly just a big wholesome chungus about it and they didn’t care that she became a tiefling it still would have been mentioned. She also never says she was human or whatever before too. Gortash says nothing either but I can see him not giving a shit.

Mine was everything to do with Dame Aylin

dogshit fighter, worthless character

but she's a lesbian girlboss so everything where she's present must center around her

I fucking hated Dame Aylin. So annoying and bull-dykish the entire time. I will say, however, that it was incredibly based that I could sell her ass to that retard wizard guy and soul trap her again. Not to mention Isobel coming to rescue her, getting killed, and Dame Aylin spazzing out. That was pretty fun.

out of place homosexual

forgotten realms

Uhh...

There's nobody from her past so there's no wait to actually verify.

Anon you can meet multiple people from her past, one is literally one of the villains.

You guys care about the most stupid stuff imaginable, no wonder you are mocked and laughed at.

2008

The entirely cosmology of DnD flip flopped in that time. You’re complaining about literally nothing.

and are actually not evil abominations

Well they never were not even in 2e. Hell BG3 isn't even the first game with tiefling companions.

D&D is inconsistent

yeah no shit

They/Them says:

I fucking hated Dame Aylin. So annoying and bull-dykish the entire time. I will say, however, that it was incredibly based that I could sell her ass to that retard wizard guy and soul trap her again. Not to mention Isobel coming to rescue her, getting killed, and Dame Aylin spazzing out. That was pretty fun

It's been established since 2008 that tieflings were turned into tieflings by asmodeus in an attempt to make them all one race

4e nonsense means jack shit.

we will never get a NWN2 remaster with cute tsun thief tief girl getting a face that doesn't look like shit

Cry some more. She was an annoying cunt and can rot in that soul cage for another millennia.

They/Them says:

Cry some more. She was an annoying cunt and can rot in that soul cage for another millennia.

caring about good writing and aesthetics is stupid

This gaslighting will never work, and there are far more people who mock woke media than there are people who mock you for not liking it. The latter are just aging millennials trying to cling on to their dying culture