Play the piano, brother

Verso LITERALLY begs for death

durr would you be happy if you could age???

I only bang on the piano to unlock Tifa's panties

That would have undermined the whole point of the game though.

It's wild to me that people lack the media literacy to realize the layer of tragedy kino that exists in the game.
Real Verso was suicidal and Alicia's endangerment was an excellent excuse for him. Play the Visages segment a second time.

Name a character with more aura

GO HOME, PAINTER GIRL

ragebait threads

coombait threads

get spoiled on the only game i'm playing

get raped by a pack of niggers and die in an alley

Renoir did nothing wrong

painted Renoir

imposing, powerful, serious, mysterious, nearly theatric, dramatic behaviour, combat style that relies on cool summons and iaijutsu

real Renoir

sappy, sad, tired, washed out, fights by transforming into his Persona, needs copious amounts of energy to do anything

Black and white like a horror film

Horror music playing

Everyone being creepy and staring

Alicia's face starting to decay from painting overdose

Verso in depression mode

The funniest thing is that even then you still have low IQs here arguing how it's actually le good ending because painted people have souls or whatever. Nevermind the fact that Maelle makes them all her puppets anyways.

verso didn't want to be immortal. he's obviously aging in the maelle ending, which makes me think he's mortal, which is what he wants

because Maelle's ending has no pros retard. Renoir isn't banished from the painting, he will wait for a week, maybe a month, stop coping and realise that Alicia lied about leaving the canvas on her own, enter the painting again and btfo her.
Alicia was never gonna live in her cope fantasy land for all of eternity

it would fit it with the level of hypocrisy in his painted version desu
the lens becomes "don't check out like i did" or "i'm just the same as the real me and again using flowery reasons to obfuscate what i actually want"

corrective sexpedition with maelle

Maelle embracing her paintress side and becoming a power hungry cunt is the only way that ending can work in the first place, given that all her friends now know she's basically killing herself

and btfo her.

How? He failed the first time.

Setting has people with powers that can bring all sorts of fiction to life in paintings

abloobloobloo muh brother muh war muh scars

animate dumb retarded wooden dolls and funky ugly abstract artwork

Verso wanted to paint fucking lighthouse dragons instead of big boobs anime girls that worshipped him and you wonder why his family is a giant fuck up

Why doesn't verso just refuse to play the piano? What is she gonna do? Gommage him? That's what he wants anyway

instead of big boobs anime girls

Golgrussy tho

my impression was that he was at the age of loving bionicles when he made it
i'd be more weirded out by him being able to do that in his older years and ditching it for music, but maybe music has its own magical thing going

Staying in the painting for a long time weakens you. He will be stronger after waiting outside for a bit and Alicia will get weaker. Clea wanted Renoir out of the painting so he can help her deal with the Writers. Renoir isn't gonna abandon Alicia in the painting and go fight the writers. Even if Renoir can't beat Alicia somehow, Alicia will also have to fight Clea.

If there are painters and writers in the settings, does that mean there are also factions for the other 5 arts?

Same reason painted Renoir wants to protect the Paintress. They have no free will and are at the whims of their painter.

He wants to die, so I guess you can say he will eventually. But the fact that Alicia refused to let him actually die makes me think she'll just keep him an old man forever.

This is what you wanted, right brother?

Maelle literally said Renoir didn't just kick their asses the first time because he was awakened from being in the painting so long and fighting with Maman all those years. Once he comes back at full power he'll just start grommaging everyone again and unlike her mom, Maelle can't stop it.

Are you genuinely retarded? Why do you think Verso's soul is represented as a small boy throughout the game?

sculpting has all the coomers and consists of italians

Real Renoir is also a joke fight because of Stendahl. Painted Renoir requires being able to actually play the game.

Sculpters and architects are fighting over dominance with giant building mechs and animated statue robots

Awakened

I obviously meant weakened. Fucking spell check sucks.

Real Renoir is also a joke fight because of Stendahl

You could just not use the painted power pictos, you know.

I skipped that whole dungeon and went straight to the boss.

Maelle is for rape.
Alicia is for marriage.

he thinks she'll let him ever actually check out

lmao

She likely won't, but if painted Verso isn't a "real person", what's the harm in it?

He was like 9

the lens becomes "don't check out like i did" or "i'm just the same as the real me and again using flowery reasons to obfuscate what i actually want"

why are baguettes like this

There is no good explaination for Maelle to stay in the painting without her essentially losing it.
It's asking why becoming addicted to meth isn't a good ending.

how do you even rape a painter

Because he's sentient and has his own wants and desires? Are you fucking stupid?

Play a good game instead

Because the child Verso soul is still forced to paint. There's no indication she killed him in her ending.

no he doesn't, he's literally just a painting aline made to cope instead of facing reality
i bet you felt bad when monoco/esquie get wiped away like a brainlet too

Is Maelle ending Verso actually older or does he just look older cause the guy in the Gestral village isn't dying his hair black?

The writers objectively did nothing wrong and the Dessendres deserve all suffering they get since all paintings involve shreds of their soul being used.

no he doesn't

Oh, you are actually fucking stupid.

the architects

They all look older

The Verso ending already undermines the whole point of the game

Not really.

Stendhal

You didn't beat the game

Maybe

33 December

Th painters could be characters in a book like Lune, Sciel and Gustave are in the painting

he wants paintings to be SOVLless slop

Man the moment that he summons the giant wolf on his battle is pure kino.

was that supposed to be the family dog?

writers still out there

maelle wants to live in fantasyland instead of revenge like she wanted on renoir for killing gustave

maelle is retarded

how do you even rape a painter

Writer's powers are beyond meager painter's comprehension

Not really, even Sciels revived abortion kid looks about 5 years old and I think he should have been 4 if he didn't die

wolf

dog

It's very clearly a lion

she tries to offer and clea just tells her to fuck off

Both endings are pretty balanced in the amount of happiness and suffering being exchanged. Maelle and Verso both force each other into pain and suffering against their will, the difference is who gets caught in the crossfire. Either destroy Renoir's family or destroy real Verso's creations and the people of Lumiere.

It was a lion you spastics.

the sound effect of his cane hitting the floor is so kino

The way he spins around during his attacks looks so stupid.

He's supposed to look like a composer I think. Which doesn't really work with Verso being the music kid but w/e

Which is logical, the last time she got involved she got verso killed, what help is she going to be now that she is a disfigured half-blind mute that can't even speak or breathe properly?

Total Alicia Death

I thought the constant clock noises throughout the game were building up to something. Did I miss anything?

it's so funny reading old thread with schizos defending maelle ending for being good

Except in Verso's ending Alicia learns to move on and have a chance to be happy, as evidenced by Maelle being present with everyone else when she sees them. The only "bad" outcome to Verso's ending is that a bunch of Sims characters that the game got you emotionally invested in during the first two act "die".

I LOVE FORCING THE SOUL OF MY DEAD BROTHER THAT I MISS VERY VERY MUCH (I'm the reason he died btw) SO I CAN LIVE IN MY FANTASY LARP WORLD AND FORCE THE MOST REALISTIC VERSION OF MY BROTHER LEFT ALIVE TO BE MY PIANO PLAYING SLAVE

play the piano verso

Do you mean Renoir's cane noises?

Now that would have been a great bold ending,

Maybe escapism / Dying on own terms in pleasant place = le'good?

French cowards.

It's the gommage that kills him

Expedition 60

No expeditions got to level up until Gustave's converter

60 year-old level 1 parryGODS

No, I heard it even without Renoir in the scene, but maybe I'm misremembering.

Maelle ending is better, it's just because the ending shows the aftermatch where Maelle just ages Verso, in the longterm she will be able to copy Verso and even maybe "reset" him and recreate all the painted family, since she has the potential to surpass her mother and Renoir.
Meanwhile Verso's ending is just bullshit, the family reunion is okay but the Lumiere people showing up and waving their goodbyes is just heavyhanded by the writters just to give "strength" to Verso's claims, but Gustavé would never want to Lumiere to cease to exist just because a depressed retard doesn't want to live, he would probably side with Verso for Maelle's sake, but the rest of the party would not agree with that.

Verso go back to your piano.

Go fuck Lune some more Verso

I LOVE LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD AS A DISFIGURED HALF BLIND BURN VICTIM THAT IS ALSO MUTE AND CAN'T BREATHE WITHOUT PAIN AND IS ALSO SEEN AS A USELESS LIABILITY BY EVERYONE SO MY PARENTS AND SISTER WHO BARELY GIVES ME THE TIME OF THE DAY WONT BE SAD OR MILDLY INCONVENIENCED

Maybr but i find it difficult to believe both alicia and aline moved on that easily

It's kinda like a Greek tragedy, painters being gods, almighty and able to bend the world to their will, and the painted beings the mortals, who are forever slaves to the
Whims of the gods, Maelle not being the exception.....great stuff!
Also, did anyone else was left wondering what other artists could do? Writers and Musicians I mean, if painters could create whole fucking canvas worlds with thinking beings.

level 1 parryGODS

Implying that Expedition 60 were parrying, they always started the rounds with 5 actions and just slapped the enemies on their way through the Monolith.

An earlier draft of the story had it be the Plumbers rather than Writers that caused the fire. As a nod to the paper mario games that inspired Exp33.

And because plumbers causing fires is le ironic.

Alicia dies irl becuase the painting fucked her up

Renoir burns the painting

For those who come ACK

If real Verso gets to choose his way out despite the pain it causes his family, so should Alicia

Interestingly enough, it's pretty much a guarantee that previous expeditions met other expeditioners before the later expeditions, at which point they were considered an alternative to gommage rather than a real opportunity.

By our time they're all understandably dead, but at some point there were even expeditioner villages like the farm.

I’ll knock you out

the real reason monoco was in such a rush to resurrect noco was because he knew what verso intended to do and he still helped him

noco doesn't even remember him anymore

Man...

You're not a cripple and can still walk and have full use of your hands, people survive with much worse. Stop being a melodramatic bitch and get to painting non-Verso canvases.

chief arquitect looks like brosnan like renoir looks like a bunch of hot old dudes

Alicia's ending is literally a horror movie thoughbeit.

Well the ending implies it. Sorry it's not good enough for you

You just know if this game was made in america Alicia would be 100% in the right.
Also a lesbian or something.

they had a greater fire to live than any painter desu

Whatever retard.

okay, but I meant inside their painting. how can you maelle or alicia in there

Expedition 60 was so based holy I want DLC of them now.

Time has passed between the ending of the game and the epilogue. When you finish the game Aline is practically dead, but in the epilogue she looks healthy, so at least some weeks, if not months have passed between the family getting out of the painting and them gathering at Verso's grave.

IF ONLY I HAS SPECIAL PAINTRESS POWERS AND COULD VISIT ANOTHER PAINTING WHERE I WON'T BE A DISFIGURED HALF BLIND BURN VICTIM THAT IS ALSO MUTE AND CAN'T BREATHE WITHOUT PAIN

IM DE FASDESD BALL :DDD

girl called Alicia

going to a land full of wonders

Oh, I see...

It's wild to me that Maellefag ignore that Verso tells her to literally do this. The issue isn't that shes in the painting, it's that shes in VERSO'S painting.

le nekkid reddit muscle man expedition haha so randumb and funni :)

o-ok *plays moonlight sonata first movement sloppily*

This, the discussion is way better than Final Tranny Tactics because the real world for Maelle/Alicia is just pain and because Japs always fails to deliver nuance endings.

I've been playing for a week and I'm still in Act 1
FUCK working, never get a job anons.
Keep threads active until I'm done or I will RAPE you all.

the people that choose the ending that allows them to ignore reality also like to ignore reality in real life

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone

Don't worry, we will be shitflinging about this for months because it's all very subjective and nuanced.

Now get the fuck out.

Is there only one magic painting? Or is there more than one?

being in a spoilers thread when you are still new to the game

uhm actually the ending that is shot like a horror movie and doesn't even play the true Claire Obscura theme is the good one just trust me I'm an intellectual

Renoir is weak

her mother is weak

Clea doesn't care about her

To what? So Alicia can live in pain for a undetermined time till their parents can create a painting where she can be happy again? Fuck Verso, he let Gustavé die, fags that are siding with Verso are okay with Verso letting him die because he wants to be the only brother for Maelle.

Kek

The discussion is better because no one is calling the canvases bad or anything, Alicia herself is the issue. No one would care about it if she had some self control.
She's prime corruption doujin material.

I see the retard who thinks the ending drapped in shadows in the game called Clair Obscure (lit. contrast of light and dark) is the good one and the brightly lit one in color is the bad one is still at it.

will they make this the canon ending in the movie or real ending Verso
need DLC with them just fucking shit up

The story is an allegory for drug addiction and overdose. Bravo Kojima.

Devs say both endings have merit, both have cons

Make one ending that is overwhelmingly positive in tone and one massivly negative

Hmmm. Are they hacks or is there more to it?

Verso wanted to paint fucking lighthouse dragons

Most nevrons were painted by Clea, not Verso

OLD MEN
WARNING
WARNING

I like how all the new Shazam tards are newfag brownids, and how mad this game made them. Do we call them Saarzam tards? I would say the immense Anon Babble butthurt over this game added like a good 5% extra enjoyment to this game over all.

DRUG ADDICTION = BAD
ESCAPISM = GOOD IN MODERATION

Source on devs saying both are good ends? Genuinely curious.

Devs say both endings have merit, both have cons

Where do they say that? Can you post it?

sometimes you just need two men (or more)

Literally gets redpilled, realizes he is in the matrix and that he is nothing but a grim simulacrum of a dead loved one

Not only that, he is trapped on and endless cycle of death and violence with his own family

Yeah I would want to anhero too if I knew my existance was not only pure suffering and family hatred, but also a fucking lie

SHE'S 16 YOU SICK FUCK

You're right. Too old. We can go younger.

Naked muscle men have been part of chan culture for years, newfag

They do both have merits and cons. Verso ending DID erase a world of people that may or may not have been real. This is not up for debate. Verso himself says he makes the hard choices.
Doesn't change the fact that one ending represents light and one dark of the theme 'clair obscur'.

Honestly, Verso deserves the Maelle ending for lying all the time and hiding his true intentions even after Alicia has her memory back.

I saw anons say it here. You guys wouldn't lie right?

There's more than 1. The only special thing about that painting is that it is the only painting Verso made
She can draw a painting herself, if she can't she's Renoirs favorite child so he would easily be convinced to draw special worlds for her

Every time I've asked for it I've gotten absolutely nothing, and I'm genuinely curious too.

because Maelle's ending has no pros

Saving the painted world for a (bit longer) is worth it imo

Ideal best ending would be Maelle is convinced/forced to leave while Verso is locked away in the manor forever. He spent decades manipulating and lying to expeditioners, getting them killed.

Never trust Maellefags. They are compulsive liars just like their queen.

Mealle was going to OD on ink and die in a few weeks/months (real life time) in her ending and then Renoir or the sister would nuke the painting for good. Painted "people" were fucked one way or the other.
Verso's ending is the good ending because at least the real family gets to move on in the real world and focus on their weird war going on.

Gustavé would never want

He was never real, who gives a fuck.

aspect ration switches to 4:3

yep it's kino time

verso ending is the intended one, but giving you the option of choosing the maelle ending is what makes the verso ending more impactful. you (the player) chose to kick alicia out of the painting

When you realize your sister prefers her adoptive brother-dad over her blood brother and dad

I don't want this life...

I don't want this life...

I don't want this life...

Literally me

Both endings result in them getting erased. The only difference is one gives them like 70 more years at best and that's if Renoir doesn't immediately go back in and start up the grommages again.

Play the piano, Verso. Gustavé is cute and Maelle has a obvious crush for him.

Why is it we have dozens of threads a day about who's right or wrong, but zero discussion on any gameplay?

Parryslop. What's more to discuss?

hey farquaad

But you're not real so who cares? :)

you could have been a bro and helped him survive for big brother points

I don't know about that. I am a Verso enjoyer but I do think the humans will remain after Maelle dies (which will be sooner rather than later). Will Renoir then destroy the painting? Will her mom try to reenter it again despite not doing so already in that ending?
I think these are up for debate, but I also think her ending is shot in framed in shadow to let you know it's NOT a good time ending. You'd have to be retarded to think it is.

heavy story focused game

W-WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY

says a versofag who's character does nothing but betray and lie whole game

There still isn't a single rationalization for Alicia killing her painted sister while not killing Verso.

Both wanted to die

Alicia keeps Verso alive because he might learn to not want to die

Yet does not keep her painted self alive

The only reasonable conclusion is that Alicia wants that Verso cock.

gustave saying "for those who come after" was because of all the gear he would leave verso

kino

The only gay retard without AIDS because he can't get laid, Farquaad

Renoir would destroy it. Clea definitely would.

Verso ending is the only real ending see Giving Lumiere more time and Alicia time with them before she turns into a hole face schizo is a plus though IMO.

Renoir will destroy the painting as long as either Alicia or Maelle are alive because they keep trying to enter it. This is literally his goal that he tells you in no uncertain terms.

If you didn't finish off Painted Renoir, Paintress, and real Renoir with Gustaves homage you didn't beat the game.

Everyone already agreed the gameplay is kino, there is nothing gameplay related left to discuss

The devs did say because of the success we will probably get DLC, maybe another ending?

Maybe if maelle and aline had some self control instead of being paint-sniffing addicts renoir and painted verso wouldn't be forced to erase the canvas

that he suddenly gives up on knowing Maelle is lying to his face. The party didn't even beat him, he was talked down and left on his own.

sits next to him in the theater while you're forced to play piano while crying

pottery
try not lying next time

As I said the grommages will start again and the cycle of suffering continues. Alicia also isn't as strong as her mom so everything is going to get turbo fucked even more. And little Verso's soul is going to be even more sad that his painting is getting even MORE fucked up.

Fuck Maelle and fuck the Dessendres. Cursed family genes.

She can't bring herself to kill Verso, it'd be too traumatic for her. Killing her painted self is probably cathartic in a twisted way as she is erasing the old Alicia and embracing her being Maelle.

The only reasonable conclusion is that Alicia wants that Verso cock.

True and canon.

But it's simple, Alicia understand painted-Alicia pain, she doesn't want to live in the real world with her injuries, Verso is just being a bitch because he decided to live like a bitch for 100+ years backstabbing all expeditions and fucking around, if he really wanted to die where was he helping all the expeditions to reach the Monolith? A lot of expeditions were able to reach the Monolith.

... By believing Maelle was telling the truth. When he realizes she's not coming back he's just going to go in again since his views are literally confirmed by her being Aline 2.0.

Would you a golgra?

Clair Obscur: Expedition 0, it's painfully obvious.

can reuse Verso mechanics

can reuse Monoco mechanics

play as Renoir (can reuse mechanics)

play as Simon (can reuse mechanics)

some bosses already designed (Old Lumiere Axon)

He was actually helping the expeditions, his dad was just too fucking good at killing them too. He only backstabbed the first expedition due to being forced to by his father and tried helping after that.

This. The Writers did nothing wrong. Though I wouldn't be surprised Alicia played with the proverbial and literal fire of Writing and it cost her immensely.

Kill writers. Behead writers. Roundhouse kick a writer into the concrete. Slam dunk a writer baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy authors. Defecate in a writers food. Launch writers into the sun. Stir fry writers in a wok. Toss writers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a writers gas tank. Judo throw writers into a wood chipper. Twist writers heads off. Report writers to the IRS. Karate chop writers in half. Curb stomp pregnant writers. Trap writers in quicksand. Crush writers in the trash compactor. Liquefy writers in a vat of acid. Eat writers. Dissect writers. Exterminate writers in the gas chamber. Stomp writer skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate writers in the oven. Lobotomize writers. Mandatory abortions for writers. Grind writer fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown writers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize writers with a ray gun. Kick old writers down the stairs. Feed writers to alligators. Slice writers with a katana.

its going to be really lame if they do that

As I said the grommages will start again

no they won't. There is no one to hold him back if he wanted to do it this time. They would all vanish at once IF he chooses to do it for a third time. I just don't think he would.

Reminder that verso is/was a pathological liar and traitor and the are based for killing him

I need you versofags to understand:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being enslaved by a cute hebe girl

nigger he's not a retard and Verso even says he knows and Renoir both know she's lying.

They will release a true ending, right?
Felt like some Verso things were out of character, even more after reading Julie expedition record, and him implying in some other dialogue that he wanted to revive Julie. It felt like he didnt want to die, but wanted to live his life normally without having to bury all his friends.

its gonna be really kino if they do that

No luminas though so we'd have to play some challenge mode of pictos only. Also no climbing as many expeditions tirelessly paved the way for later ones. Best case for DLC, if we have to have it is just a side story with the cast and maybe a new member.

Also one of them was the only other to climb the wall

forces soul simulacra to power something that's purely vain

Writers are correct and their assassination attempt was for the good of all people

Why wouldn't he? If he kills everyone he will force Alicia out.

Oh shit I forgot about that.
What the fuck, they were too fucking good.

DLC will revive Gustave before the final fight

Third option: Fight as Gustave

You have to fight and kill Verso just so he can't genocide the whole painting

You have to fight and force Maelle out of the painting

Renoir is lying to himself that she will have self control.
It will be very obvious that she actually has no self control and is dying before she actually dies, and then Renoir will just go back in.

One could wonder how much free will his implanted memories give him.
He was created by Aline in the image of the loving son who sacrificed himself for Alicia. His choice after being confronted with Aline's state outside the Canvas, and then Alicia clearly lying to her father and walking down the same path, is entirely in line with that.

Julie died 60 years ago. Verso is over it. He's tired and just wants to rest. Even child Verso agrees.

that's why Verso ending is shit, it kills everyone in the painting and makes him a massive liar and hypocrite

I think verso gave up on that idea the moment (real) renoir showed him the absolute state of aline. He knew that there was no way maelle left the canvas voluntarily

What do you mean? Verso is a total snake who manipulates and lies to everyone. Him wanting to die and taking everyone else with him is absolutely in character because he's selfish just like Maelle.

W-what happened to the LampMaster that appeared in the middle of Gustavé vs. Renoir fight, Sciel and Lune were able to defeat him?

You ever had an overbearing parent pushing you to relieve their own childhood by playing their favorite sport? You may wind up hating that sport and doing something completely different. That’s Aline, forcing painting on two kids that would rather be a musician and a writer, and an older daughter that paints but is really fed up with her mother and the family in general.

I feel we will get a true end DLC or at least DLC in general, there's a bunch of red paintings and giant red door in the Endless Tower that we can specifically go towards but cannot interact with in any way.

it's just Baki

So Alicia can live in pain for a undetermined time

THEY ARE FUCKING WIZARDS, GETTING INTO WIZARD WARS.
WE HAVE NO IDEA IF ALINE'S TIME IN THE CANVAS WAS DAYS OR HOURS. THE ENTIRE EVENTS OF THE GAME MAY HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN JUST A WEEK. THERE IS NOTHING INDICATING THE FAMILY OF GODLIKE WIZARDS WHO PRODUCE ENTIRELY LIVED-IN POCKET DIMENSIONS BY THE THOUSANDS CAN'T MAGIC UP A WAY TO FIX HER WOUNDS.

Good thing I sperged out on the first attempt and got to see that. On 2nd he got 2 shot and it completely skipped that part.

Maelle = the demiurge

I don't agree. I think at that moment he decided to let her live her fantasy and just die. His wife was already out and not coming back in for whatever reason we don't know.
I think it's academic though because that's the bad ending and the Verso one is clearly the real one.

it does since the whole point was to find a way for the people of Lumiere to live and live freely, while Verso just genocides the entire Canvas

Side content and endings doesn't align well, we see soul of real Verso countless times and he doesn't want people in his paintings to die. But painted Verso gaslights soul Verso to stop painting.

I thought we would get a parallel playbable fight between Renoir and Lampmaster switching every couple turn

this would have been kino beyond sanity

gaslights

asks "Hey me, are you tired and want to stop?"

his other self nods yes

trannybro trying to gaslight about the word gaslight. LOL

He doesn't want them to die and loves them all, but when asked the direct question of

Do you want to keep painting

His answer is no.

It's pretty obvious he's fed up with all this shit just like the painted Verso. I still think Gustave would've somehow managed a better ending than both where child Verso is allowed to die, Maelle gets booted out, and the painting and its inhabitants still remain.

Filthy fucking wrigger hands wrote your disgusting post. Go back to your pen-wiggling chicanery you literate FREAK.

even if that were true, still the jrpg choice over siding with the avatar of the dead god who wants to wipe existence so the entities of the higher plane have good vibes in their pantheon

Out of 10.

Child Verso literally asks the team to find and fight against the paintress(Aline) because she kills his paintings. And he says he doesn't want anyone in his painting to die. That's why he created Gestral reincarnation river.

Unbelievable fucking kino fight if you don't abuse oneshot Maelle.

It's literally the name of the game. Read more often.

Clea is the actual demiurge, she enters the canvas, probably fucks with the bimbo husband Simon that her mother designed to her painted version and decides to fuck with the world even more, fucking her painted-version and just leaving the world without fixing shit and even worst she forces her sister to go there knowing full well that she is weak and will probably get tempted in living there forever.

I closed the thread after posting this. Reopened it just to check for replies.
See you in a month

the french really know how to frame scenaries

Me? I'm a sculptor, i ain't got no time for nerd wars i have to stick my dick in a marble hole

I still haven't managed yet, should give it some more attempts. I refuse to one shot him.

Every attack one shots, every fallen member is immediately removed, on phase 2 even if you're playing perfectly he'll wipe the team anyway and force you to play as the reserve. He has like 20 million HP and removes your shields. Everything about the fight taught me that I should be prioritizing damage and nothing else so its what I did and one shot him.

What would her hole feel lile?

Based, it's the last big challenge of the game to get good at, take your time and don't give in to temptation.

I’m not upset about it, but it does suck that there is no real happy closure for the people of luminaire, the entire hook which draws you into the game. You want to save these people and give them peace, but even in the one ending where they survive there’s the looming threat of being destroyed after Alicia kicks the bucket, and her character feels even more broken than if gustave had stayed dead. Sigh, but that’s “art” I guess. They successfully aped the old jrpg game vibe pretty good, except no happy ending.

and thus the demon of hatred was born

first strike + fortune's fury + stendhal

Yup, it is gaming time

set fire to a house

doom an entire family to 60 years in purgatory painting fighting each other

writers did so little but accomplished so much

lyrics for the Act 2 boss are just sad parents yelling at each other with incredibly emotional lines and expressions, especially if you understand french

I almost teared up and that made the fight way more difficult.

Where is the mod that puts all monsters on level 99 stats with triple HP? I want to have more fun!

Verso's soul is conflicted and swings back and forth between wanting to paint and wanting to stop. Thats why its left uo to the player to choose.

They are called the (W)riters for a reason

the indomitable human spirit extends to homunculi

kino

STOP PAINTING

FUCK YOU

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

kino

im just imagining the muscular guys and women running around slapping everyone shit until reaching the paintress and doing a 180 with the little time they had left
must have been a kino expedition

since the whole point was to find a way for the people of Lumiere to live and live freely,

That wasn't the point of the game. That was the desire of the painted people but that doesn't make it the goal of the game

He doesn't give Sciel cheater so she can do burning mark and then fortune's fury while Maelle has +damage against burning targets

I still say it was Maelle fucking around. She has a bunch of books and a typewriter in her room. She wrote something and it went bad so Verso had to save her and died doing so. Wracked with grief she can't accept it nor tell them the truth so retreats into the painting.

Clea is so hot

Based Maelle. Fuck Verso, I hope that mopey faggot is miserable forever.

What awards will this game win at the Geoff awards? These are the ones it would likely be eligible to be voted for:

Game of the Year
Best Independent Game
Best Narrative
Best Score and Music
Best Performance
Best Role Playing Game
Best Art Direction
Best Game Direction

Renoir isn't an asshole anon. He too loves Verso's creations, and knows better than anyone how the beauty and life found in them has real value. He just knows how to keep a balance in his usage of the canvas. Him destroying the canvas after Maelle eventually dies would be an act of pettiness and anger that he doesn't really show.

What is that track named

It's going to win multiples like BG3, OST is a given
What else can even compete with it?
Night Reign is multiplayer slop

We'll have to see how Death Stranding 2 goes. Not just because its Kojimbo but the trailer has some good stuff going on with it. 33 will most likely win score and art direction at least.

Should’ve stayed off Anon Babble and the internet for the week you were playing it. I did. I’m not going to laugh at you because I know its frustrating, but next time you’ll prioritize whats more important, not getting spoiled on something you enjoy, or reading the retardation of internet when its a potential detriment to your gaming experience.

GOTY awards have an incredible recency bias. The game came out too early in this year, it's too difficult for journo scum and the story isn't diverse enough for the rest.

I hope it's not best narrative.

lmao it's the escapist dream of an unmarriageable girl

The worst part is I doubt we'll get a better one this year

Fuck Kojimbo and his eternal autism though. I just can't believe people still consider his a some sort of genius after all these years.

excellent character design

great VA

his boss theme is a love song with a sick violin solo

does anime moves

summons a bigass lion out of nowhere

Genuinely one of the greatest "villains" and boss fights ever made, I'm still a bit salty that the third phase was a fakeout

Not my list but saw it posted in another thread. These seem to be all the major games coming out for the rest of the year. Dunno if its missing anything big.

Une vie à t'aimer.
youtube.com/watch?v=AeXdtz05Gqc

So is this Renoir as Alicia sees him?

for me? It's Fantasy Life i in two weeks

Painted Renoir is kind of a moron but real Renoir is the only painter in the story I really sympathise with. The rest of his family are all fucked but he's honestly a great guy in all the scenes he appears in. He's the only person I feel bad for in Maelle's ending.

My wife.

As Aline sees him, this is her painted version of him.

No, it was Renoir as Aline currently sees him, which is why Maelle says real Renoir is actually kinder

I don't even remember what BG3 won at the game awards other than overall goty.

They forced Alicia to deepthroat a fire elemental. Writers can do anything.

Wow, that's a whole lot of trash.

Une vie à t'aimer

Hell is Us *might* be ok. Looks a bit weird.

Aren't the lyrics actually in a pseudo-french made up language?

we don't know what happened but since we do know her room was full of writing stuff and the fake her does bad poetry, she wanted to be a writer and not a painter.
I then think I agree that they somehow 'tricked' her into trying to Write (with a capital W) something, and she fucked up and set herself on fire, and the rest is history.

Good

t. Sigur Ros fan

If you try to fight him the intended way (by becoming a parry God), you're in for one butt clench fight.

But alas I 40 million damage'd him with Maelle.

i dont like him because he reminds me of Noctis' father and I hate FF15, it only gets more cringe when the director admits that he took some inspiration from FF15.

It is time to drop the videogame, anon

I just think French tropes are new to me so it's more refreshing than 'bread in mouth run into girl oops I'm late sorry class rep power of friendship' shit.

tfw this is the only in-game mix of Simon's 2nd phase

youtube.com/watch?v=wbKOqZLL0Og

God damn dude how can you call them sims characters? Soulless twat.

Some of them are. The earlier boss themes and things like the main menu song are in very hard to understand old french + latin lyrics, while the later boss fights are in normal french. It's actually a nice touch, like they don't want to spoil too much with the earlier song lyrics.

Fucking Nine Sols final boss tier bullshit.
Love him

Except they say expedition 0 was the only one with survivors. Gustave says so to Lune in the prelude while talking about where to land the boat.

See, this is what 'diversity' in games means to me; new perspectives and ideas in games, not nignog women shoved in every role.
Like, imagine a game set in 1800's Prussia, or how new KCD 1 was when it came out, or an RPG game set in the Ottoman Empire.

Knowing Geoff and how It Takes Two won GotY in 2018 or whenever, it'll probably be that new shitty co-op game from the same studio that wins GotY.

Survivors that made it back, yes.

It depends on the song.
A minor amount is full english, others are full french, and most are a combo of obtuse french + latin & made up shit to fit the bgm that still sounds a lot like latin
But knowers will be able to understand it, here I'll spoonfeed one of the main ones for (you)

Aline a haï

Aline has hated

Eterna Dis Irae

Eternal Day of Wrath

Verso va déchirer canevas

Verso will tear the canvas

Maelle triste...

Maelle, sad

Alicia va déchirer canevas

Alicia will tear the canvas

Renoir brisa...

Renoir broke (this is also the beginning of Duelist boss song)

Renoir, mais toujours son fils perdra...

Renoir, but forever will lose his son

Verso damné...

Verso, damned

Alicia va déchirer canevas

Alicia will tear the canvas

Renoir pleura...

Renoir cried

Verso damné...

Verso, damned

Aline enferma...

Aline, ill/sick

youtube.com/watch?v=n1-DSn_6eRQ&list=OLAK5uy_lJbuSXw4Bfo2tDlP6s_CNznTfYGe0GEBM&index=89

I whacked off onto a mannequin once so yeah why not

old french + latin lyrics

So I'm not crazy. I can't speak French for shit but I know some Latin and I was very confused when I kept hearing random Latin words in some songs.

give him some honest shots

fail miserably

decide to oneshot him with Maelle

I don't minmax enough so she only takes like 90% of his health

the rest of the squad can't finish him off

Simon erases the expedition from the canvas

mfw

I can't believe this motherfucker still found a way to humble me, what an amazing boss

One of the reasons this game is so good is because it's not ashamed of being french, and celebrates its own culture without being concerned about "localizing" it for whoever encounters is. This is what true diversity means, not a muttified, trivialized mess of ideas that popped into a tranny's head one day and that he bullied the rest of the writing team to include.

You forget Aline is still alive and she will keep trying to OD on the canvas, Anon. Renoir will do anything to protect his family, especially destroying a shitty painting that already caused the death of his daughter.

Yup. The VA choices reflect this to me. If it had had the usual American casting couch suspects it would've been so shit.

devs said the fictional language can be decoded with hints in the game

where the high qi fags at? I need to get more lore from songs

I haven't done Simon yet but what level should you be at? Is this one of those absolutely have to be max level type of jrpg bosses?

I doubt Maelle would die without Renoir going back in too, and the moment he gets her out yeah that canvas is toast.

the fictional language called french

>durr would you be happy if you could age???

she's compromising you retard she's not killing him now but taking away his immortality and letting him go through life and it's eventual end naturally

Well the levels in this game don't matter nearly as much as your weapons and pictos and yes, you do want at least max level weapons and a really solid build even if you don't want to go for the cheese oneshot build

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRENE, POEME D'AMOUR~

Maella itade nai

Dosokémo naémai

Alicia itade nai

Verso édaéké

Lune ai

nice french you got here

She honestly should just leave for a weekend every once in awhile, eat some sandwiches, and come back. Like there's no need for all this conflict if she just takes a break every now and again.

KINO
IT WAS KINO
Didn't think Yakuza Pirate would be dethroned from my personal list this year but it was (XCX DE is still my GOTY though). DW Origins also gets bumped down a spot for the French Dark Horse slapping everyone's shit.

Max and even then you're fucked unless you cheese it. He'll put your chars at 1hp, he'll erase the dead ones rapidly and his moveset becomes more erratic as the fight continues.

Anon, I need you to fuck my retarded daughter.

yeah, got the same impression here

Maelle not wanting to leave the canvas like her mother was enough of a downside to the ending, dragging in verso felt really forced
i rather it focused on gustave, luna and the rest, verso failed his wish and his storyline felt finished

I probably will end up having to cheese him with Maelle but I wanted to at least try it legit first.

ngl renoir already looks pretty similar to old brosnan facially, just different haircuts

expecting people addicted to something stronger than Heroin or shit stronger than even 100x morphine based opioids, to take responsible breaks

Verso can be just as strong with a little set up and you'll have the satisfaction that you didn't use the obviously broken character.

Gustave already beat me to the punch

So why did Lumiere never setup a forward base and have a constant steady flow of people going in and out? Also some of the expeditions seem rather ridiculous in size with it being literal hundreds of people but when it comes to 33 there was only like 20 people.

he was a little kid when he made them lol
verso we meet is over 100

by the time of 33 nobody cares anymore. Also, there were more people than shown at the party. There were multiple boats.

was that supposed to be the family dog?

esquie is the family dog

That's the point. Maelle is right in what she wants to do but she has lost her mind at that point and only does it for the most selfish reasons. She could have easily been noble and said "I'll leave forever if you promise not to destroy them" or "I want to stay for my friends even if it kills me", but no she straight up wants to stay for her own happiness.

You just know she will let him age and then when dies she's gonna just repaint him again because she's unable to move on.

One of the things Versofags will never tell you: what right painted Verso has to deny Maelle how she wants to live her life? It's her life, if it's her choice to live in a painted world then so be it. Even if it's a wrong choice, it is still her choice. Clea understood that

since she has the potential to surpass her mother and Renoir

I don't think anything in the game implies that. Clea even says that Alicia sucks at painting, and Alicia doesn't like painting.

How the fuck is that stronger than heroin? She just doesn't want all her friends to be dead. I don't want my friends to die either but that doesn't mean I'm incapable of taking a weekend to myself.

Esquie is a doll, nonknower and nonplayer
Monoco is the family dog, although the current dog is Monoco the 3rd so original dog Monoco probably died since shota Verso painted him

excited to find expedition journals and uncover this world mysteries

nothing fucking matter and it was just a family of schizos

bravo kojima

escaping from reality is never a life. verso was right because he wanted to protect her one last time to stop from running away.

The story is about drug addicts, Anon. You don't tell them they can keep taking meth as long as they do it in moderation. They will lie, gaslight, and sometimes even kill you to get their fix.

monoco is the dog, hence why he needs a "leg"(giant bone) to transform

so you think the painted people have no agency or 'right' to life then. Why care if they're erased then? Nice Catch-22, Maelletard

But she doesn't even have to leave forever. She can literally just take a short break to replenish her chroma and come back and then everyone is happy and no one needs to die.

Something actually interesting that is never discussed in these schizo threads.
Where the 4:3 sequences with FakeAlicia and FakeRenoir even real? How did they reach Maelle's mind at the time?

You really can't grasp how the ability to be a true god, with powers over both creation and destruction, in a setting you have not only complete control over, but also the ability to just feel fully as if it was literal real life, complete with beings that act and feel like true humans and more, is stronger than heroin which just momentarily blasts your brain with strong pleasure signals?

well that and he was going to get everyone killed, I really have to laugh how all the arguments in the game about whether or not to erase the canvas just completely gloss over the fact the painted people clearly have real thoughts and feelings and therefore are real.

isnt she technically around 30? do painted years even count?

Yep he is pure bullshit and the first jrpg boss I had literally 0 remorse cheesing.
I wanted a cool challenging fight not "miss one parry out of 1500? Restart the 15 mins fight and better luck next time nigger haha!"
Retarded unbalanced fight is no fun.
I'd rather play Furi (another french masterpiece btw) for actual good challenging bosses.

imagine if greek gods are real and visits us in the middle of their dysfunctional family problems and they erase us. Pretty much what is happening inside the painting.

these sequences clearly show the writers had one idea and changed midway

*CLONK*

because the game glosses it over very intentionally and doesn't have Lune or Sciel even drop a single line about how they feel about not being real
This is because this is just a a framing device for the real story about the family, tardbro.

What right does she have to hijack (real) Verso's canvas and play the Sims in it until she dies and her parents have to bury another child?

Alicia is not good at painting and so doesn't know how to keep a balance between the outside world as a painter and the person she is in the canvas. Aline used to be the master of it but she went crazy after Verso died, so now only Renoir and Clea can actually use the paintings safely.

The story is not about drugs and not wanting your friends to die is not heroin. You're a retard using a food tier analogy.

or to play God over things (humans) that weren't originally in the painting and had no business being there ever

At the start Lumiere had way more people, they could send entire armies but by Year 33 there's not only way less people but everyone who's not high on copium thinks expeditions are suicidal
As for why Lumiere never set up a base my understanding is that they have to stay mobile because otherwise the biggest Nevrons/painted Renoir would show up and just kill them all

the painted people have no agency or 'right' to life then

That's quite a reach there retard, how the fuck did you get one person not having the right to decide another's life as that person not having any agency

lol, this crispy cyclops is killing herself in the painting and bro died for nothing, lmao.

They don't have the manpower to support a real colonization effort because of the dwindling population. You can see that previous expeditions have made attempts to establish a permanent presence, but they all eventually got btfo by the nevrons or gommaged.

By the time of expedition 33, society is crumbling, most people have lost hope, and they think that the expeditions are a scam.

Yep exactly. The devs actually fucked up here, because the obvious argument against this is a ton of time will pass in the painting while she isn't there and everyone she knows will be dead when she gets back.

Except the devs showed painters have the ability to pause time in the canvas.

I'm sorry dude, but get good: youtu.be/YBMu9n49_S0

Clea has a man face desu.

original verson when you listen to his memories was convinced canvas people are real, and have souls just like him
if thats true then the painters are the most cruel and ruthless gods possible

because you question why the person there for 100 years has any right to determine his face and just auto assume the newcomer moron gets to decide everything?
Retard? Hello? Hello, retard?

The endings were kind of meh.
Either nobody is real and nobody really suffered except the family or they are real.
So in Verso's ending, you commit genocide. Everybody dies. Horrible family. Or none of them are real anyway so who cares.

In Maelle's ending, all their free will is gone and everyone seems forced to act happy. Which is suffering as well. Or they're just puppets so who cares.

Aline and Maelle's canvas delusion is literally treated like a drug addiction right down to spending too long doing it causing an overdose.

Real Renoir is a joke fight because there is no way not to outlevel him by at least 10 levels

I can't into piano. I hate how every scale has a completely different fingering pattern. Going from E major to F major is a shitshow for example. Also the fact that they expect you to have both hands do completely unrelated things rythmically in a lot of piano songs out there fucks me up even more.
I'm sticking to guitar, which has none of these isues. Scale changes are ez and the only times you're askd to do unrelated motions with your right and left hands is if you're doing some chud metal tapping riff

this is just a a framing device for the real story

I get that retard but considering you spend the whole first act as Gustave who is a painted person that's not even a copy of the family and Maelle doesn't get her memories back until act 3 it's too much to ignore I mean the game does it even ignore it completely painted Renoir
lectured painted Verso about it briefly and Maelle told Verso he's real

she can also just respawn whoever she wants anyway, everyone in the painting in her ending is created by her

invents technology that gives people in the painting the power to literally overpower the painters and throw them out

the most chad to ever chad. I don't care about Maelle but her ending makes me wonder what other crazy shit the people of Lumiere could do. I think they earned their happiness and future more than anyone else. Also fuck Verso.

Reminder the "real" world isn't real either in this game and is just a creation of the "writers". And a facsimile of those writers exists in the Paris world as an antagonist for that world.

wrigger hands typed this post

Baseless fucking conjecture.

You dont commit genocide in the verso ending because when verso wipes the canvas there are only 5 people alive + the mindless monsters... Renoir already had wiped 99,9% of the people in the canvas.

French tropes

It's the same anime chuuni kino. I don't know why everyone is trying hard to deny this.

I still don't know wtf he created, the game gloss over it and call it a day

I fighted him level 45 and it was fun. just don't be a grind retard, that's what postgame is for in jarpigs

She is probably riding writer cock in the maelle ending, happy that she no longer has to look after her fuckup family

because you question why the person there for 100 years has any right to determine his face

you don't have the right to determine everyone else's fate for you own sake, your fate doesn't take precedence over everyone else's retardo

Verso is such a bitch it's unbelievable

constantly lies

fifth column

lets Gustave die

throws a bitch fit when maelle releases Alicia. When he too wants to die and kill everyone (twice)

Don't care about your retarded food analogy. It's not a drug.

Drugs = food

Why are Maelletards like this?

He created the device that "captures" the monsters chroma, turning them into "pictos" you equip to your characters to give stats and special effects.

just walking around casually

enemy suddenly shouts "I SEEEE YOU.... I FEEEEL YOU...... IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII FEEEEEEEEEEEEL YOOOOOOOOOOUUU... IIIIIIIIIII.....NEED... YOUUUU....

Nta but i was overleveled simply because i wanted to do the companion quests to max out their relationship before ending the game

oh no, mama been huffing paint again

UM EXCEPT FOR MAELLE WHO DOES XD

What kind of canvas would you guys create if you could?
I would make a world with the hottest women with plenty of diversity. I would be a god of this world who can go around fucking women anywhere and when I want. Being impregnated by me is considered an incredible honour.
Every year there would be festivities to decide on a new wife for me to take.

No
The only one that had someone go back to Lumiere

It's literally explained with the first fight after you find Lune. The Lumina converter is what allows you to equip and learn the pictos.

Hello. What are the implications of Verso seeing nothing when the mind fuck boss makes the other party members see their loved ones and whatnot while Verso sees absolutely nothing.

99% of all Painter canvases are just nude ladies- guaranteed

Ah yes, Ongbal the famous average video game player!
Show me the video of (You) doing the same or kys nigger

verso isn't real

The Lumina Converter basically allows expeditioners to capture power from the world, i.e. chroma, and convert it into lumina that empowers them. Think of it this way, every expedition before 33 could not level up and could only use the 3 pictos they have equipped, no lumina.

How is that baseless? In the case of Alicia it's even stronger since her actual real life self is a fucking deformed mess in constant physical pain
Nigga you're like asking if some cripple wouldn't want to live forever in a truly immersive simulation if he could not only walk again but also be a god

billions must die

The other party members are not real either and they were affected by her illusions.

How was fake Renoir apart of expedition zero if he was created to be Aline's fake husband? Did he live a normal life in lumiere, or was he in the fake manor to begin with?

My mistake the previous expeditions could not use pictos either, so they basically just had weapons. The expedition 33 commander states that Gustave with his technology and Lune with her magic are the most powerful expeditioners.

way too hard, only for true masochists, explains why hes hidden away, people would be pissed if they casually found it

Maelle saving everyone and and deciding her own fate is her deciding her fate takes precedence over everyone else because she denied one turbo asshole's wish, who she even compromised with.

Anon Babble really is the dumbest board isn't it

he doesn't realize Maelle was his greatest enemy all along and that Painted Renoir killed him to protect her from him

sad

Expedition 60 didn't need no magic gizmos to reach the paintress. Just sayin

he wants to die, to vanish into non existance, not to reunite with his loved ones

He doesn't want to bring anyone back into this world even if he loves them which makes sense considering he knows about the true nature of the canvas

As far as I'm concerned what she did to Verso is punishment for him being a massive faggot.

actually yeah, why was the dude trying to protect her on the Expedition to stop her? I must've missed that. Did he just do it intending to stop them if they got close?

imagine if the game had none of the family bullshit and it was just that world

says the dumbest nigger in the thread

Yes, it is, because of people like you

I guess he got his memory wiped when she created him and other members of the family.

You're a fucking retard if you think she'll EVER let him die which is what he really wants, you dipshit. There's more to being immortal than just not aging.

expedition zero didnt know shit till clea got in and recruited them

it's okay when she does it t. Maelletards

I didn't say it's the average player, you were the one crying like a little bitch.

Clea is just a bitch as she is seething as she is walled in her 30s while her sister is only 16.

you didn't commit genocide this time because you already helped the main antagonist commit genocide

well you're technically correct at least

It just means he is so fucking dead inside that there is nothing to tempt him with.

Yeah but if the people are alive too long they might not want to keep living like Verso.

I am disabled and I am perfectly capable of living like a disabled person 1 or 2 days a week if it means myself and everyone I love doesn't fucking die. Idiot.

So a canvas is sustained by a piece of your soul painting forever? These painters are psychos.

0 wasn't to stop her, remember? It was to look for people and survivors

why does gustave look like robert pattinson and verso looks like daniel day lewis

There's nothing wrong with mass genocide if you yourself have already decided you want to die as nobody else matters once you are dead. Other people only matter while you exist.

You're wrong because my hurt fee fee's say so

yeah she just let him age because she wanted to see him with wrinkles silly me, kill yourself

If painters can see the people in the Chroma of the canvas and bring them back, and there's a painter willing to do that, they aren't actually dead.

16 and looks like beef jerky LMAO

Best ending would have been maelle/alicia agreeing to leave the canvas and agree to use it in moderation. Alas, a certain burn victim just couldn't stop huffing paint

I think Aline created the painted family and all of the humans of Lumiere around the same time so that they could simply all live in an alternate reality. Then the Fracture happened and Renoir was part of expedition zero with the goal to steer towards stopping real Renoir, but the expeditioners got suspicious over his and Verso's immortality

Colossal amounts of cope
You are dogshit

Verso is an empty shell.

Who was beneath the monolith?

american ending

Except Lune and Sciel, which must be pretty strange since they also know the people around them are recreated by Maelle using other chroma and are not the "originals" like they (or Verso) still are.

finally a relatable video game character.

They are, you're just repainting a copy of them. They have no souls, just chroma ( ink ).

Based "only I am real" chad

God you Maellefags really are just stupid

Yes. When you decide to kill literally everyone in the world because you're sad you deserve to be punished. Kudos to her for figuring out the most effective method.

her killing herself is actually Le Good we won Maelletards

and your ending is clearly the bad (Shadow) one, and the Verso one is the good (Light) one of the clair obscure.
How mad does this make you?

Nice argument there retard bro

It’s true, I turned my back on my original reality…

But where’s the harm in that?!

When it grows to be too much, too painful, every person deserves to escape that!

And you are not everyone in your situation.
Some tetraplegic might be fine with their condition eventually, others will keep wishing for death constantly.
You also are not capable of ignoring, bypassing your fate and diving at will into a completely, fully immersive simulation where you are god and feel like a god in all ways possible.

mother has fallen, billions must die

brown slut tries to comfort him but is ignored

You are even more retarded than I thought.
I didnt cry, I made him my bitch by one-shotting him with a 400 million Stendhal.
Painted Love is the better fight: an actual turn-based jrpg boss, not whatever sekiro parry wank Simon is.
I bet you oneshot him too like the little bitch you are, tough internet troon.

Her irl life in insanely shit. So she will likely end up killing herself. Like she has burned face and cant talk and constant pain.

True Renoir, speedreader-kun
You know, the one actually gommaging people

this guy is seething hard, holy shit

why didn't renoir help the other expeditions kill aline?

Guy's an existential nightmare walking on two legs who wants nothing but the sweet embrace of non-existance
[Spoiler]he is literally most male anons here, me included[/spoiler]

Wait a minute
Who the fuck is Julie?

So she will likely end up killing herself

Source: I ignored the actual in game ending and made up own up

Yes, but the comic book artists were cast out of society when they brought too many of their degenerate ideas to life.

That mask makes her look really erotic 2bh

Imagine being this butthurt just because anon showed that the boss can indeed be parried all the way through.

Versofags really siding with the hypocritical sociopath

assblasted maelle releases Alicia when it's what she wanted. When he let gustav die to ensure he could trick the party. Also verso wants to kill everyone and himself anyway.

Dlc bait.

Would you date a burn victim?

no? I mean she will kill herself as she gets older. shes 16. shes will likely have killed herself before shes 20 due to her constant suffering.

Not that anon but you know clair obscur means light and dark, right. That's the point of both endings, both light and dark. They are wheewhoo, not whee or whoo.

just put your fingers on the keys, lil bro

tfw Clea won't come sing for me anymore

the dark ending is actually Le Good

I wish people would stop making these shitty anti escapism stories it doesn't work the painted world is clearly real it just ends up being tone deaf with the genocide parts. Also fantasy is inherently escapism no amount of anti escapism messages will change the escapist nature of playing this game. You can't make a game with an anti escapism message and not be a massive hypocrite.

Just another person Verso betrayed and killed because he was feeling sad and a bit retarded.

source: I ignore the good ending and continue to make up my own stuff

Clea is 33

still lives in parents house

Rich families inherit their estates. Americans just won't understand - go rent your paper apartment, cuck.

if my parents had a fucking mansion in front of the eiffel tower I would do the same

I don't think the game was anti-escapist. At least not on the same level as let's say Evangelion or Spec Ops the line

wat. im not ignoring the ending. im saying as she gets older and the years go by she will be depressed due to her condition and suicide

Too obsessed with revenge to find a job, too much of a bitch to marry

Yes exactly. Verso's ending is light as in good and Maelle's is dark as in bad. They both form part of a whole.

focus only on the dark

mfw it's dark

it would be a pretty lame ending if Maelle doesn't get what was coming to her

that's literally what he said, retard

actually she'll totally let Verso go despite her entire character being refusing to do that!

Also ignore that the Verso ending has her smiling and waving goodbye to her friends, she'll kill herself if she doesn't pick my ending!!

It has to be autism

Yes, because Maelle is happy, everyone in the painted world is alive and happy, besides that emo Versocunt

too old and walled to marry

Yes you must live in a shitty small house or apartment and be indebted.

Combining your wealth with your family is childish. You must take on the world on your own

it 100% is autism; he's just making up what he wants to happen and ignoring what actually did lmao

those are the first she recreates actually, at camp

she's not american
you move out because

you're getting married

your career needs benefit from relocation

you have irreconcilable differences with those at home

the latter would be the closest that would apply, but apparently she wasn't so abrasive until verso kicked the bucket

this bothered me too, I tthought It was going to be 2 separate boss battles you would have too switch between, but it just never got explained what happened and lune and sciel were just fine after

Well yeah, any boss can be? Not by you, me or 99.9% of players tho.
Do you look at Usain Bolt racing and believe "I can totally run as fast at that nigger! sprint is ez pz"?
actual mental retardation at play kek

She is literally me

Isn't she a fucking painter? Can't he just paint her own Lumiere with Gustave, Sophie and everybody else?

Or else what?

burn down the house

make mother huff paint for egotistical reasons

have a loving family that care for her and doesn't care

want to live in fantasyland with fake friends and force fake brother to play the piano

do teenagers really?

My parents have a mansion in the English countryside but they still want me out and so do my siblings and cousins and whatnot. Saying I need to get my own place. The house has like 15 bedrooms. I'm 35.

I could save her and make her style herself like Sophie

I unironically don't get americans obssession with kicking their kids out once they hit 18
Even their roasties seem to think a man is undateable if he doesn't have a house of his own, which is so vastly removed from a lot of places in the world where you only live your family home if you became a pariah

you are LARPing but in your LARP your family are cunts. Any other questions?

get to Act 3

do one last lap of the map

notice a bunch of areas a still red

"huh i guess theres more after returning to lumerie"

go fight renoir and find out its the actual ending

God fucking dammit. Also do you really have to ng+ to see the other ending? Fuck that I'll just google it

Show the video of you parrying Simon 100% pajeet

be me

fucking some hotties in Lumiere

marry some blonde Franceuse

have children

alright it's been 10 years time to take a break from the canvas

log out

go to sleep

go to work next day

come back home

log in

it's 70 years later

I have grandchildren and my wife is dead

fuck

Hope they fix the time dilation bug

you can load a previous save, anon

She can, but she wants to stay with painted Verso. If she creates her own canvas and paints Verso there it will be a different Verso. Same for the rest of the cast - even if she implants them with memories they won't be the same people

Learn to read retard. Clair obscur. Light AND dark. Not light OR dark. Do you want me to show you some logic gates like you're a baby?

You are literally crying, tears dropping down on the keyboard as you were typing this.

retard

paint another fresh wife

fucking SEETHING, fucking losing his mind, he even started busting out his buzzwords like 'jeet' and 'slop' like any good newfag retard does when getting roasted
LOL

I accept your concession.

not larp. I wouldn't say they are cunts. it's just they are embarrassed I haven't got my own place. all my other siblings do. I have 3 brothers and 1 sister and they all have their own places and relationships but im incel and still live with my parents.

no see you need them both

it means the CONTRAST between light and dark RETARD
One ending is light
One is dark
Which is which, RETARD? Surely you can figure it fucking out?
LOL

There's multiple saves

What the actual fuck I'm retarded. Cheers anon

That's different since she just put their chroma back together, basically just undoing their gommage. They even say immediately upon being revived "but we just gommaged" showing they are the same people brought back. Gustave, Sophie and the others in Maelle's ending would be made brand new with different chroma, they wouldn't remember their previous lives or their deaths.

Something important to keep in mind, The point of expeditions is to pave the way forward
surely all of you have realized how many dead nevrons and gigantic corpses we find, hell, look at forgotten battlefields corpses. its not just the lumina converter, all the other previous expeditions paved the way for others to move forward

The game clearly states that they do have souls

maelle is a ginger

Painters can pause time

good luck finding the perfect basedjack anon, your deflection game is on point!

I've seen some cope in my days but Versofags trying to say their ending is only good and happy is some next level shit. And I thought Maelle's ending was about burying your head in the sand.

Yep. it's what she does in her own ending anyways

Clair obscur. Light AND dark.

no.

Charoscuro:

This is an Italian term which literally means 'light-dark'. In paintings the description refers to clear tonal contrasts

TONAL CONTRASTS

one ending is bright, in color, happy, game theme plays

the other is dark, faces covered in shadows, discordant piano slam, jump scare, is unsettling, no theme music

HURR I DURND GIT IT AHURRR

retard

she's more of a day walker

then make a few immortal jannies to keep things in order while you are logged off

Does anyone have a 4K render of Old Verso playing piano? It was a fine shot.

one ending is bright, in color, happy, game theme plays

the other is dark, faces covered in shadows, discordant piano slam, jump scare, is unsettling, no theme music

HURR I DURND GIT IT AHURRR

kek Anon Babble has people that retarded for sure.

didn't painted alicia and renoir freeze time? you can probably do that too

>the other is dark, faces covered in shadows, discordant piano slam, jump scare, is unsettling, no theme music

le spooky sounds and dark colors = bad

versos ending is extinguishing an entire universe into the void

How big is the time delay? How long was Aline in the canvas?

no see the happy ending is actually le bad and the horror show one is le good because uhhhhhh it just is ignore the game title and the in your face symbolism

LOL
fucking amazing

It wasn't even a full planet. You can literally bump up against the edges of it and by that point there were only two humans left, the pussy giant guys and a few dog people

people assume 1 painting year is 1 irl hour

Genuine paradise scenario for the terminally ill trying to enjoy their last few IRL months.
Versofags advocate for the Canadian method.

le spooky sounds and dark colors = bad

Yes? Idiot

be me, a p*inter

fucking a hottie in lumiere

nut on the girl

pauses time

wait to recover the stamina

nut again

and again

and again

I will be known as the Jotaro Kujo of the painters.

Actually Verso is pro people hanging out in paintings (literally tells Alicia to do just that). Just not killing themselves doing it.

The real twist is the family being from Quebec

gets bored of all the gooning

pull out a gun and kill everyone

or like just paint a big red button with a pause symbol on it lmao

wait are painters skyrim modders

you're an actual ooga booga caveman

you're an actual mental retard who has to wear a bike helmet to walk outside

how did so many expeditions end up in so many weird places, like, im now in that huge wooden tower where you do Maellie's companion quest, and there are flags of previous expedition
but in order to get there you first need Esquie and he needs rocks that gives him ability to fly, AND even if you get it you can't just go there before doing Maellie's mission - location is locked out before that, so how come other expedition was able to go there
how did expedition 70 manage to enter into the monolith?

that's basically my only issue with the game so far. if devs wanted to give you places to rest, YOU should be the one to put up flags with 33 number on it, would be way more cooler imo

I'm just picturing someone with a canvas only covered in white paint saying "See? I painted using the charoscuro style, my painting is light which means it's happy." That's how retarded you sound.

Versofags advocate for the Canadian method.

and they would be right
they're literally going to die anyway, just rip the bandaid off

location is locked out before that,

Verso just says 'let's not go there yet'. It wasn't actually like physically locked or anything.

it's very on brand for this one Maelletard to headcanon everything and try to claim this was a 'good' ending despite the lighting, music, done, facial expressions, basically everything.

most expeditions used boats, but there were some that used other transportation methods

theres usually audio logs explaining that sort of thing

I'm picturing someone retarded with 34 IQ and it's you.

if it was fair it would win music, performance and game direction and narrative for now

art direction will probably go to death stranding 2, as good as this game looks it still has some indie jank, death stranding 2 looks way more refined, nothing announced looks as good as those 2

for goty i would wait to see how doom, ds2 and some other titles work out, but it strong contender
for sure i dont see any other game coming close in music, and kojima is always akward at directing is actors, so peroermance is easy grab too

No it doesnt. The only person who says this is kid verso's spirit, and he's a fucking kid. Kids are delusional and believe their imaginary friends are real all the time.

tfw you were part of the Ferris wheel expedition

you would be so easy to manipulate irl

Not him but yeah, you're fucking stupid dude.

no see the scene filled like a horror movie replete with a literal jumpscare and piano discordant slam ending the scene is GOOD

and the brightly colored ending where everyone is happy and the game's theme plays is BAD

it just is okay?!

I mean, verso painted a fat doll with god powers and his best friends being rocks

You have brain leaking out of you ears.

Literally the point of Verso's ending is that it is sad and seems miserable, but there is hope and some sliver of happiness to be found within. Did you really watch the cutscene of Verso betraying everyone a second time or Alicia looking depressed and think "man this is really happy and upbeat"

What the fuck? That means Aline was gone literally two minutes?

true ink crack addict

aline and renoir were in the painting for 67 years

yeah and i found their journal, it just says that they kept going no matter what, but if you'd interact with that barrier before monolith you'd get instantly gommaged

THIS IS A BAD END BECAUSE IT IS OKAY SHE'S GOING TO KILL HERSELF OKAY

lol

This game has kinda made me waant to actually play FF16 due to Verso voice acting. I only ever played the demo for 16. I was waiting to see if it would ever get added to PS Plus so never bothered buying it.

Sure it is, when you escape to another life

Maelle lived most her life in this world, what ever her old one is, its long behind her
She is also right that outside of the canvas shes a half blind, mute cripple, its not a life worth missing, since time flies faster here she can have a full life before she drops dead, and maybe in a decade or two she realized she has enough playing god and will move on

He created a device that can convert Chroma into Lumina, which can be used to increase how many Pictos a person can use at once.

all i would have to do is smile and be courteous and i could get you to agree with anything

Don't bother, it's awful. Even the voice actor for Clive had difficulties delivering that shit ass script.

They could also use Pictos, in the prologue before the Gommage there's a guy you can talk to who discusses them with you and points out that typically people put Pictos on their weapons but can also put them on their bodies. Additionally, it's mentioned that Pictos are used to summon weapons (Painted Verso uses them to summon a piano).

The "real" world isn't real either

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I've never seen a human being who is incapable of feeling or perceiving more than one emotion or concept at the same time, but I think you've somehow managed it. What's life like for you, only ever able to see things in one dimension, black or white?

okay and if she stays in the painted world too long she will die in the real world and then probably just disappear in the painted world anyway. its escapism and there's nothing good for her to stay in there. she can make the best of her shitty real body or continue to run away and wither away while still being miserable. the only positive outcome for anybody in the family is to destroy the painting and move on.

Ben Starr has no vocal range. He sounds exactly the same in FF16 and this game and the berserker game. At least Nolan north and Troy Baker actually have range.

its not as bad as people say but it drags and is kind of underwhelming and boring. there are like 2 or 3 cool fights but its mostly like watching a cutscene and pressing one or two buttons over and over. It is very mid. Final fantasy just has a way of churning out these really dull stories sometimes.

I leave for a week and when I come back father and mother are fighting inside a painting and my sister is a useless fuck

ngl, I teared a bit here.

seems to be alicias power, seems she can control passage of time in the canvas. she uses it a lot later too, guessing they just walked up and decided not to kill the party
the black white was just stylistic choice

Maelle's situation is surprisingly accurate to reality. The ones lecturing her to go out and live in her current state are people who aren't scarred and eyeless and got to enjoy that time of their life or people who don't actually exist.

all i would have to do is smile and be courteous

she is only like that because of her, live with the consequences of your actions

I dunno, what's it like to be slapped upside the head with a very straightforward comparison of two endings and be unable to parse them, instead compelled to substitute their own reality for the presented story due to their crippling autism and low I.Q.?

What idea would that be?

No that person is just retarded. 1 hour = 1 year makes no sense. Alicia's burns didn't heal in 4 days. It's probably more like 1 day = 1 year. We also don't know how long it took to make the expeditioner army.

I don't care about Maelle.
I only care about Renoir.

lmao

literal boomer bootstraps situation
unless the action is voluntarily wasting away, right?

do you think momma started huffing paint just as the house stopped burning?

I hope you never saw Esquie's dialogue about "wheewhoo" because I actually think it would shatter your fragile mind with its depth and complexity

being a kid is thinking maelle ending was good

being an adult is knowing verso ending was good

why would you care about the patriarch of a family whose trade involves non-consenting soul batteries

Variety is the spice of life after all

I hope you never actually run into something that is intended to be subtle in fiction because your brain would literally just completely leak out of your ears.

was it ever mentioned what would happen to a painter if they were inside the canvas while it was destroyed irl? would they die in irl as well?

1 year = 1 hour make perfect sense when renoir talks about reaching the limit of being inside a painting and taking into consideration a human can only live without water for 3 days

escapism is not good under any circumstances. renoir was right to do everything he did to fight for the family. maelle is choosing to kill herself over a fake painted world that will only give her despair in the end. everybody she knows will die in there while she continues to be immortal as a painter. renoir knew the dangers of being obsessed with the worlds and didn't want her to suffer.

Nah, this isn't Fire Emblem; they wouldn't lock the true end behind a paywall.

nothing about the real world and its rules is explained, story is dogshit

Nope, sorry, i won't damn esquie and monoco to oblivion. I just won't

guys the game is called Clair Obscur and one ending is dark, shot in shadows, in black and white, and oppressive, with horror movie cuts and sound effects usually used to create tension, everyone looks pained

the other is happy, hopeful, filled with hugs, the crew waving goodye, the sick mother alive and well, the burn victim smiling and facing reality, mom and dad hugged, her older sister there and smiling at everyone, and the game's musical theme is playing

BOY I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS INTENDED HERE IT'S ANYONE'S GUESS REALLY

wewlad

Yes it was obviously killing them from thirst and it has nothing to do with their self inside the painting crumbling and them turning into a schizo.

Also Aline was in the canvas for >100 years.

You're only allowed to choose death if you're my gritty self-insert who is le tired of life like me

esquie is a doll and monoco is a dog, they are very well in the real world

i assumed that they werent stuck there minutes, but days, months yeaars
no idea if its its cannon, but 15 years in real time translated to "few hundred years" for the gastrals when you ask one someone at some point when kid Verso created things, which implies a 1 to 20, 1 to 30 ratio

I can't resist the urge to ask you, I really want to know. What do you think Esquie and Verso are trying to say about themselves in this dialogue? Please write your answer however it comes to you, I'm dying to know

youtube.com/watch?v=7nVaIp5zV8k

BOY I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS INTENDED HERE

the case of red canvases and door in Endless Tower still stands

Also Aline was in the canvas for >100 years.

citation needed

choice where everyone comes back, verso suffers, and then a painter dies further harming the ethically challenged family

easiest choice ever lmao

well fuck

I can't resist the urge, I really want to know. Why did your mom drink while pregnant with you?

despite her entire character being refusing to do that!

hardly her entire character but cope how you want

I can fix her.

seems early expeditions had subs, cars, ships and a might of a full military, by 33th they have little to nothing left

Painted Verso who was created by Aline says he's >100 years old.

Obviously Aline created Old Lumiere in the canvas >100 years ago and was living there with her painted family, and Renoir came in to kick her out 67 years ago and caused the fracture.

Yeah that's my major beef with the story: the "real world's magic" rules are barely explained and sound retarded anyway.
They should have pulled a third layer to the endings where you have a final scene maybe after credits showing Aline or Alicia painting on the walls of a mental asylum, implying nothing was real about the Painters powers and she was just crazy from grief.
That would have been uber misery kino.

Damn, you really can't figure out basic subtext in a scene where someone literally speaks in baby terms to explain it. And I mean LITERALLY he is making baby noises to explain it. You actually can't grasp it. Amazing

people are saying that Maellie's ending is a bad one, and that Gustave would have prefered Verso's ending to save her, but i think that's very wrong way of thinking
for the first few hours of the game Gustave was someone who would sacrifice everything for her, he was even arguing with Lune, but later into the story he changes, and it's been shown few times, and at the end he knew that Expedition was super important, and they were all sacrificing themselves to save Lumiere and all the living people. when he dies he says "for those, who come after". at the very end of his life, he knew that THE goal was to stop gommage so everyone can live in peace.

im not saying that this ending is perfect, obviously it has some serious issues, like Renoir just destroying the fucking canvas anyway, but Alicia was happy with Sciel, Lune and Gustave, she wanted to keep Lumiere alive, she basically lived two lives, a former orphan who found a new loving family, and a painter, and it was her own choice to stay in the painting, and i don't care that she would literally go insane and die in real world because of it. she could probably keep everything working for at least few generations - it would have been few generations of happy Lumierans in exchange for her own sanity and life, a life she didn't enjoy at all.
i understand Verso's motives - he cared about his family, he knew that he was only an illusion, and this was hurting his family, but honestly - if his mother wasn't a psycho who wasn't able to deal with his death - there wouldn't even be anything wrong with Alicia doing all this stuff. she was clearly more happy in the painting.