Honestly I don’t see how people can disagree with him.
Honestly I don’t see how people can disagree with him
Marche is selfish because for him reality is worth going back to
To be fair you’d have to be retarded to think like this
How is Ivalice escapism? Going there is like escaping poverty. There are no downsides.
Didn't play the game
SEX WITH RABBIT WIFE
I dropped the game right here.
you have to go back to being a worthless cripple!
Didn't play the game
NOOO YOU CAN'T LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD YOU HAVE TO BE A POOR CRIPPLE AND LIVE WITH IT
No.
it is a question worth asking though
is living a lie/fantasy better than facing the cards you were dealt and owning up to it
is having legs better than having no legs
why don't you try engaging with the question instead of making shit up that no one said?
unless of course you always want to live in the fantasy you made up in your head, which explains a lot
I mean realistically speaking Mewt teacher try to talk down to the bullies who will get pissed off at Mewt even more and it might end with him getting murdered someday, the teacher will lament his loss and move on, his father would grow more apathetic if not suicidal so... some people would have it way better to spend the rest of their lives in fantasy land.
We're already seeing something like that by people who quickly replaced their real life interactions to devote their lives to AI
so it's better to just never solve your problems and give up on reality
slave mentality I guess
Just grow new legs and stop being poor fucking slave mentality ISTG
Going back home to a house with no father, no friends, a mother that ignores you and forces you to take care of your sick brother
reality worth going back to
The only one who had a relatively easy time was the girl.
Are Maellefags really this delusional? This thread is depressing to see
... I mean if you can will yourself out of a death spiral then good for you I guess, hopefully your belief magic allows to revive the dead or reverse the self-extinction happening in asia.
Ok retard
Goyim should learn to accept their lot in life, and never dream of rising above their station. G-d placed the goyim upon this Earth to serve His Chosen People. That's just how it is.
you are literally excusing goy behaviour to do nothing at all, to never make any impact and to drown yourself in fantasy
what a poor attempt at flipping the script
Goyim should be tortured into compliance and also because it's fun to make goyim suffer.
waaah waaah
epic resolve
meds
anon is completely unable to comprehend why people are so pathetic and weak willed to just pull themselves by their bootstraps
/thread
It is interesting,but how they presented,is flawed,they dont show friends and family missing them,they dont show why staying in the game world is bad,they dont give a ticking time bomb,nothing,so marche's moralism falls completely flat and unjustified,and personally i find it even worse that the world still exists in the sequel and the protagonist sees/faces no problem in staying there
escapism is healthy mentally if you live a shit existence
living a shit existence with no escapism is unhealthy
Reminder that people are only remembering Marche now because of Verso. But Verso's is much more easy to argument he was right, unlike Marche.
is living a lie/fantasy better than facing the cards you were dealt and owning up to it
YES WHEN LITERAL MAGIC IS INVOLVED. Midwits actually sit here and contemplate this shit. It's not the same as ignoring having fucking bills.
Would (you) like if someone deals with a burden greater than them head-on and become remorseless murdering monsters?
Anyone that sides with Mewt becoming godking and rewriting reality to his whim needs to be bullied more, and hit with snowballs with rocks in them.
Just grow new legs and stop being poor fucking slave mentality ISTG
Exactly, Expedition 33 show the consequences of living in the fantasy world and as result people get into heavy debates over if Maelle or Verso were right because both have positives and negatives, but Marche has NOTHING, just comes out as a killjoy asshole.
I've never seen the other side of the argument destroyed in one line like this. Nicely done.
Why should Marche be stuck in faggotland just because some retarded invalid can live in his delusion world where his disgusting Oedipal projection deity rules in tyranny? Marche did nothing wrong. Get back in the wheelchair, faggot.
I now see what Fidel Castro was trying to achieve by trying to instigate WW3, we do need a nuclear apocalypse, now.
thanks for actually discussing the game/question
there are other outcomes, sorry to tell you
says more about you if you frame it like it's the only logical outcome
Well no shit, but the instinctive drive to survive is strong enough to push almost everyone away from suicide.
nooo Marche is killing all the people that live in this world!!
Why was it okay for Mewt to kill everyone that lived in the previous version of the world?
Doned is unfortunate, but this is just the trolley problem.
have claimed that Escape is one of the main functions of fairy-stories, and since I do not disapprove of them, it is plain that I do not accept the tone of scorn or pity with which “Escape” is now so often used: a tone for which the uses of the word outside literary criticism give no warrant at all. In what the misusers are fond of calling Real Life, Escape is evidently as a rule very practical, and may even be heroic. In real life it is difficult to blame it, unless it fails; in criticism it would seem to be the worse the better it succeeds. Evidently we are faced by a misuse of words, and also by a confusion of thought. Why should a man be scorned if, finding himself in prison, he tries to get out and go home? Or if, when he cannot do so, he thinks and talks about other topics than jailers and prison-walls? The world outside has not become less real because the prisoner cannot see it. In using escape in this way the critics have chosen the wrong word, and, what is more, they are confusing, not always by sincere error, the Escape of the Prisoner with the Flight of the Deserter.
Just so a Party-spokesman might have labelled departure from the misery of the Führer’s or any other Reich and even criticism of it as treachery. In the same way these critics, to make confusion worse, and so to bring into contempt their opponents, stick their label of scorn not only on to Desertion, but on to real Escape, and what are often its companions, Disgust, Anger, Condemnation, and Revolt. Not only do they confound the escape of the prisoner with the flight of the deserter; but they would seem to prefer the acquiescence of the “quisling” to the resistance of the patriot. To such thinking you have only to say “the land you loved is doomed” to excuse any treachery, indeed to glorify it. [Escape in: On Fairy-Stories, J.R.R. Tolkien.]
yes and you can use that strength to go above and beyond instead of making yourself out to be a victim 24/7
even spite can push you to live and achieve greater things
that's a thing that people don't understand
blah, blah, blah.
cannot be a victim
cannot become a perpetrator
There's no winning against you is it?
The Ivalice of Tactics, 12, and TA2 is a real place that exist in another dimension.
The Ivalice of TA is Mewt's hometown St. Ivalice which has been magically altered into a facsimile of the real Ivalice. Their friends and family are also there but have been altered into the npcs of this world, Cid having his mind overwritten, the schoolyard bullies are zombie enemies, etc
What's to agree with? All he did was make an assertion, but provided zero evidence to back up his claim.
fuck you i want sex with vieras
Ok.
But now you have to adhere to the Red Rule, You must take at least 3 lizard dicks in the ass for each Viera in you're guild.
god why do you continue to post this shit
Maybe God is trying to tell you something?
Why did his clan help him destroy their world?
Wasn't the book gonna fucking kill everybody?
the problem is when everyone does it.
then nothing ever gets better
Well, now they're BOTH responsible for mass murder.
I don't remember if it was everybody, but it was definitely at least eating the souls of the kids.
Total NPC death. What a chad.
Like how P4 cast criticize Adachi who lives in one of the worst places where it's seen as honorable for people to make themselves taller even in the office where they work to save the skin of their boss but the story centers around being complacent with the status quo so everyone except Chie are already set on their pre-determined jobs inherited by following the steps of their parents? and even then Atlus gives Chie a hand by having Akihiko use his connections to get her a job as well
is living a lie/fantasy better than facing the cards you were dealt and owning up to it
I know where I would go. /)
humanity is a tragic state.
Life is about facing that.
It is actually. Its literally the same thing as being dead
Where is this stated?
FFT's plot was better
Yes because you get Viera pussy.
He literally gave you the answer. dumbfuck
more memorable gameplay
more memorable plot
FFTA won, FFT is garbage
spoken like a third world nigger. not all lives are miserable
Let's see a fantasy world with idealized women were you can be powerful and important
your shitty Mcdonalds job and your mother screaming in your ear to get out of her house and can barely save for retirement and rich people mock you
you sound like a nigger
Anon, I'm going to say something that is totally not oversharing the circumstances of someone irl, but, sometimes people are stuck between a rock and a hard place, those people can survive by taking advantage of others but trying to go above and beyond will only get them killed and leaving is not an option because getting a passport requires for people to stand under the scorching sun on a line for days, with the only option for relieving one self is to take dump in public, all for those in charge being both invested on keeping people from getting away and uncaring of helping to just pretend to do their job while saying "something went wrong, you can try again next month if you want to" or getting people straight-up unpersoned to the point of having to keep the birth certificate with you at all times.
America is a third world country mutt
He didn’t know the universe was going to drain the life out of all the real people inside it when he said that
the bullies are zombies
their lifeforce was drained
lol all this is made up. There is literally no downside, it's not escapism.
You probably shouldn’t use the circumstances of someone else’s life to assert your point because it means you have no fucking point. Moreover if they stand in line for days under the scorching sun and taking a shit in public in means they have more willpower than the pathetic dogshit you call yourself.
Marche was right and that proves it.
Religion is cultural escapism
you're completely making this up to make the story make more sense than it did. Ivalice was just a new world, and the only people from St Ivalice who were there were people that they knew, and the only ones who were suffering were the piece of shit future doctors and astronauts who were throwing rocks at Mewt's head and were going to japanese bully him until he committed suicide.
Can you enlighten me on that? Im a non-practicing catholic but how is it that you came to that conclusion?
the bullies are zombies
You literally fight zombies with the same fucking names in a sidequest. play the damn game
Marche's reason was to help Doned but in the end did he helps Doned?
When the alternative is imprisonment, so yes I can disagree with him.
Even with the supposed soul drain, absolutely. Would you like to live in (your favorite franchise) for a few moments, or live a long, boring and shitty life?