Generational leap

Generational leap

Why have assault rifles not changed in 60 years?

Generational leap

2 generation

logistics.
from factories to bullet cases everything made accommodate one type of assault rifles so you changed the you'll have to change everything.
which isn't worth it atm

cherry picked images

Why should they?
If it works it works
Might as well ask why hammers haven't changed much in thousands of years

I picked your mom's cherry (with my dick)

comparing a marketing bullshot to an actual screenshot

They place extra light sources that wouldn't normally exist to highlight models and also do a photoshop pass. Retardationist image.

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Mostly because the patent has expired for AR15, its production became so cheap so any alternative simply didn't have a chance at least for 5.56x45mm round

bottom isn't in-game graphics, it's an in-engine cinematic

Why should they? People haven't evolved to be assault rifle proof.

Generational leap

It was a cinematic trailer. It just means the engine can do that, not that it will. Those trailers are worthless.

lil zoomie doesn't know what a bullshot is

how cute

you called rdr2 promotional stuff bullshots too
turned out the game looked BETTER than the screenshots rockstar was showing.

The bottom one is a faked picture, nothing EVER looks as good as pre-release bullshit, and you're a fool to think otherwise

yes daddy, feed me some bullshots

I don't even think bottom pic is that much better.

The difference is a talented team full of passionate people made RDR2, GTA 6 is made by "these" kind of people, lmao good luck

a talented team full of passionate people made RDR2

There's auto and semi auto, beyond that is just cosmetic

GTA games don't adhere to anything other than their own generations

Nice try, this picture is from 2021, RDR2 came out in 2018, you ain't fooling anyone you fucking retard. Dan Houser left Rockstar Games in 2020 and took pretty much all talented people with him, the Rockstar you once knew and loved is no more.

NOOOOO RDR2 WASN'T A WOKE CORPORATE SLOP PRODUCT!!!

rdr2 was shit, gta 6 will be exactly like it, 0% gameplay 100% cutscenes

Barely, LMAO.

You aware his brother Sam is literally the president of Rockstar right

only took $1 billion and over a decade of development

Yes but you are not aware and too dumb to see that a co-founder of one of the most acclaimed game developers leaving the company is not a red flag lmao, all you faggot fucks hyped for this game are too blind to see what a disaster GTA 6 will be are in for a nice rude wake up call once the game comes out

Then why have the trailers been amazing so far

That's not a cinematic, Rockstar is just aiming the gun with Jason and then using their own photo mode to screenshot it. The photo mode might even be part of the game.

They haven't lol and are staged and faked as fuck. So are all the screenshots, excuse me, bullshots. You will see once you play the game, for now just wear your rose tinted glasses, zoomie

lol you replied to the wrong anon

dumb people like you are the reason why companies like ubisoft and rockstar get away with this shit, you will all pay the price for your greenness once the game is coming out, the shitstorm will be immense and I will sit on the sideline with a bag of popcorn

How would u change it? Make it longer it's a sniper, make it shorter its a smg.

RDR2 was made by indians, and gta 6 is as well.

Rockstar Interactive India LLP (trade name: Rockstar India) is an Indian video game developer and a studio of Rockstar Games based in Bengaluru. The company was established in August 2016 and is led by studio director Daniel Smith. It absorbed Dhruva Interactive, India's oldest game developer, in May 2019.

They can’t keep making games that require hardware that costs as much as a decent used car and that less than 5% of their playerbase actually have.

Good morning, sirs

It's been 2 generations there better be a leap

The director of that studio is some guy called Daniel Smith lol

still didnt go fully accurate autism with the m4

patent has expired for AR15

umm no, only one company makes "ar15" rifles.

The foliage barely looks above GTA V in the trailers I've seen. It doesn't look like that big of a leap. I don't think we'll ever see the kind of San Andreas to GTA IV situation again. All of the NPCs look kind of low quality too outside of cherry picked cases.

Ubisoft isn't in the same league as Rockstar this game has a $2 billion budget, GTA 6 will be the PC benchmark for years once it launches on it.

muh graphics

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What you all don't understand is how censored and soft GTA 6 will be, you will not be able to shoot at pedestrians, you will not be able to fuck a hooker cause Jason is in love with Lucia and muh relationship codex can't be broken. This game will be an absolute disaster. Woke as fuck and censored to hell and back

You think this moron cares about mechanicals?
Should've posted the fishgun

$2 billion budget but no talent to make the game hahaha

The tradeoff seems to be weight for projectile velocity. Why is that?

But it has...

you will not be able to shoot at pedestrians

way too obvious, you can do better. have a pity (you)

Since fucking when? The games' various generations tied to console gens up until 5.

PS1

GTA 1 & 2, topdown gen

PS2

3, VC & SA, 3D gen

PS3

4 & 5, boring 3D gen

PS4

uh... 5 again

PS5

5 for the third time, also 6 implying it won't run like shit and you'll have to wait for the next console gen to play it above a stuttering 30 FPS

? are you out of your mind? in this day and age where everyone is getting offended by the smallest things?? yeah you're dumb as fuck if you really think you can still do that haha

AK sights > AR sights
"Who uses ironsights. Upgrade to a"
No

Why is that?

Autism. Boomer commanders wanted a gun that would reach towelheads essentially using volley fire to hit American outposts from the sides of mountains from ranges where the M4/M16 couldn't effectively hit them. So instead of either adding another GPMG or a marksman to a squad they instead decided it would be much better to introduce an xboxhueg big and heavy rifle for every infantryman for a very specific scenario which will suck in virtually every other situation. Also something about armor penetration but that's not really that relevant. Weight and ease of use is.

At least half of that shit from V was already in San Andreas.

this is what 12 years of progress look like

Ubisoft isn't in the same league as Rockstar

I dunno, Watch Dogs 2 was the last competent game I've played since Sleeping Dogs or Saints Row 2. People keep saying can't compete and i think it gets a little artificial at times. Other than yes it can't compete on sheer scope.

Seriously, they have all the money and time in the world and the game looks only this good? embarrassing

And then they are also carrying less rounds (I guess they have better training now to ensure more effectiveness? They better do). Anyway, thank you.

Can't wait for the game to look practically the fucking same outside of the promo shots despite two entire console gens having gone past in the meantime.

It's a bit disappointing that it's essentially GTA 5 v2 but what can you expect, they have to make the game widely appealing for 15 years of lifespan

I guess they have better training now to ensure more effectiveness?

mfw

But yes. They carry less rounds because they're heavier so they can stay much shorter in an actual fight. Peak retardation just like with the M14. I'm almost 100% positive someone just got paid for this retard cannon to get adopted.

then gta 6 has nothing new cuz almost everything in it was in rdr2

new ars have 0 fucking recoil and are light as shit what are you talking about?

they have to make the game widely appealing for 15-year-olds

fixed

they do but why overtly change something that works. The basics have been perfected

XM7 will go the way of the AN94 and go down in history as the biggest mistake since giving M1 Garand a detachable magazine

GTA V had to run on PS3
GTA VI min spec is PS5/SeXS
That's pretty straightforward.

Yeah, pretty much.

More time is only a good thing in the mid term, once development starts taking too long you're actually ending up with worse graphics because you built your foundations and most of the game on older tech and you can only update it so much without remaking everything from the ground up.
Extreme example but Grimoire started development when Wizardry 7 was the hot shit but it ended up coming out the same year as Resident Evil 7, it looks like a decent game for the early to mid 90s but it was not all that by 2017.

Do we know what were the competitors to that bad boy? During these submissions there's always an entry that feels more right than the actual chosen thing.

retard canon

Kek

rdr2 is dogshit. cockstar was finished by gta5 you cringe zoomlette.

15fps with DLSS off

facetious faggots like should be put to down in the street. OPs image is as disingenuous as it can be. we all know rockstar is pushing bullshots in their trailers and GTAV doesn't look that bad when you crank it up.

The most notable ones were the Textron rifle with telescoping rounds and Lonestar/Beretta bullpup. There's a few others but only these three were ever really considered. The Sigger won most likely because it was the cheapest.

My post was serious you stupid fucktarded retard, that's why I said "Seriously" at the beginning of my post, i'm dead serious, the game looks like trash and all screenshots are BULLSHOTS

I will never understand why people are interested in this Nigger Simulator

Thread is full of delusional retards who actually believe gta 5 doesn't look like garbage compared to gta 6

it really is one, all black people look good while all white people except MC look ugly as fuck and people are absolutely ok with that

Just found the Wikipedia page. All very similar, design wise. Seems reqs are quite tight. The army press release were doing some heavy lifting ironically:

A U.S. Army press release stated the new weapons would "provide significant capability improvements in accuracy, range and overall lethality. They are lightweight, fire more lethal ammunition, mitigate recoil, provide improved barrel performance, and include integrated muzzle sound and flash reduction."[4]

We haven't seen the real GTA 6 yet, the trailers aren't real, let's wait for actual gameplay and performance then we can talk

almost 8.5 lbs without the gay suppressor

Yeah. Really lighweight.

all black people look good

Whatever you say.

its a florida simulator you incel freak
have you ever been outside ever

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You guys are rich as fuck

perfected system, what? you thought we were getting star wars laser rifles?

Also something about armor penetration but that's not really that relevant.

it is actually
peashooter rounds are only good for killing unarmored human plebs
stronger weaponry is needed if humanity is going to retake earth from evil humans/evil ayys and their human hybrid abominations

You're seeing what you want to see, faggot.

I don't live in America but thanks for informing me that Florida is full of fat ugly brown people

Fucking retards. GTA is above your general classifications. Fuck off back to r/Autism.

I was reading a few threads on reddit and the feeling is that SIG bribes were all the rage for this gun to be picked lmao
Dunno about how much they actually know, but it reflects what anon just said
I don't know jackshit about any of this, of course lol

We hit peak performance and there won't be a fundamental change in guns until we develop new ammo.
We basically saw very little change in rifles for hundreds of years before the civil war with really only things like going from a match to a flint lock.
around, you do see some breach loaders in like 1820ish times and rifles before the civil war but they were rare due to being expensive and the rifles were slower to load. during the civil war we got the minnie ball which was just as fast to load in a rifle as a smooth bore and the self contained cartridge with a primer which along with better manufacturing lead to things like bolt guns and lever guns. then in the 1880s the frogs invented smokeless powder which along with better machining allowed us to make machine guns and semi autos because black powder is super corrosive and would shit up semi autos.
fast forward to post WWII and better machining, use of aluminum in industry and people realizing the wounding affects of small caliber high velocity bullets (as well as no horses) lead to the AR-15 and ak74 and others. the only real update since then has been the hybrid ammo the M-7 uses and better optics/free float tubes.
All previous gun tech was caused because we invented new ammo and we invented a lot of new ammo in a really quick time between like 1770-1880 and now we stagnated again

I can bet money you can create that exact same shot ingame
you fags are just coping

this AR-15s were banned in NJ, (I think they might be unbanned, I know some jewish left wing commie judge ruled that ARs couldn't be banned but then fagged out on the rest of the AWB and idk if there is an injunction) so I do not own AR-15s, I own an M&P 15, which is a totally different rifle not banned in NJ

implying it won't run like shit

GTA 5 managed to run on 7 year old hardware with 256mb of ram, an obscure and hard to code for architecture and it was already outdated 4 years into its lifespan
GTA 6 on PS5 will have none of those issues and will run more than fine. You're a mouthbreathing retard if you think otherwise

Coping against what?

the whole thing is retards without anything better to do.

30-06 (30-03 really, but 30-06 is just 30-06 with a pointy bullet) was developed by basically finding the biggest round in terms of projectile and powder that someone could shoot out of a rifle all day without concussing themselves because it was better for the machine guns. all the yuro ammo was basically the same

demand the garand be changed to the 30-06 to save logistics

force everyone to standardize on 7.62x51 because its basically shorter 30-06 with about the same performance as military 30-06

finally admit all the studies showing basically all combat was fought within 300 yards because good luck seeing someone at more than 300 yards and that whoever shot the most rounds usually won

5.56 invented

marines change the round so they can shoot 500 yards again because retards and break russian helmets

eventually fix the round again and make it good for short barreled rifles

fight in afghanistan where goat fuckers shoot from like 600 yards away and miss with old enfields

retards want to go back to a heavy round that recoils a ton (basically 30-06 again) so Americans can shoot through russian and chinese armor (which doesn't exist) at 900 yards and so the rifles can use the same ammo as the machine guns again

the russians and the chinamen don't fucking have armor

I guess they have better training now to ensure more effectiveness?

of course not. they will either have less ammo or have to carry more weight

GTA5 doesn't even run at 60fps on current gen consoles

"provide significant capability improvements in accuracy, range and overall lethality.

true

They are lightweight,

false

fire more lethal ammunition,

true

mitigate recoil,

false

provide improved barrel performance,

idk what this even means. the new barrels will burn out super fast due to the new ammo being hard and fast as fuck

and include integrated muzzle sound and flash reduction."[4]

true
basically this shit would be fine if they issued it to DMRs and machine gunners, but it's retarded for a general rifle

I hope we get better weapon variety

t. no gunz retard

peep sights are fucking based, open sights are gay and retarded. there is a reason the US went to peep sights during WWI and never went back

the russians and the chinks don't issue body armor to most of their soldiers

The trailers haven't blown anything out of the water. What they have done is shown that they at least know how to stick to a story content delivered formula. Which IS pretty important since most game developers are shells of their former selves that fail to achieve even this basic level of satisfaction in their game

I remember buying GTA5 on PS3 in September 2013.
The game ran like SHIT on that hardware in dense populated areas(20-28fps)
All the Snoys whonare thinking this game will run anything above 30fps in 4k upscaled from 720p are in for a rude awakening.

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case in point. Last of Us 2 director. Literally let his success go to his head and made garbage slop and became offended no one was sucking up to him and handing off accolades anymore

I think it'll be dropping below 30 for sure.
PS5 Pro hopefully gets some good use of its pssr and all that.

people were complaining how using vehicles at high enough speeds was causing the environment to load in front the vehicles and cause an instant death from the crash
also remember anyone remember fps views from inside jeeps/cars? they reminded me of mechanical equipment/computer hardware looked in the OG system shock.

this is news to you

based ignoramus

gta6 will be most impressive game ever made

is what a 3rd worlder would say

Generations*

Three to be exact. I don’t give a fuck that it’s on PS5 this is gonna be just like RDR2 where it’s blurry and lacking detail with raytracing being at the same levels of like Assassins Creed Shadows on console until it hits PC and then bam it’s whole shit levels of gorgeous and finally holds up to the trailer.

Watch Dogs 2 was the last competent game I've played since Sleeping Dogs or Saints Row 2

Sleeping Dogs is the only good game out of those and even that was tiers below any GTA.

i dont think you zoomers know what a generational leap even is because you never experienced one

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agreed. just dicking around with rdr2 is enough to prove that. and this game is gonna be like 8 years old by gta6s release

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holy** shit levels of gorgeous. im retarded, my bad.

graphics shit

Crouch, prone, crawl, and shooting from whatever angles is a good start. I'm guessing the cover system has been reworked too.

the whackamole is totally different this time bro!

lmao

Nint0ddlers shouldn't be allowed access to the internet

true to an extent but seeing rdr2 at launch on xbox one x 4K was still mind blowing for me. That was at my friends house though I played on ps4 pro and was constantly just going "holy shit how is this real"

i hate it because it's new and popular

Wow, GTA6 almost looks as good as the Watch Dogs reveal trailer.

because they were made by Nazis, so already perfect system just like rockets.

good thing I hate nintendo and tendies so so I agree

watch dogs trailer was supposed to be full gameplay, gta 6 trailers clearly are made of a mix of cutscenes and gameplay in them, is not the same thing

Top is also a GTA Online character which uses lower fidelity assets than the singleplayer characters (also the in-game facegen which isn't very good and makes them look like potatoes).
Bottom is the actual main character of the SP mode in the game.

Better comparison would be between Michael and Jason.

Development of individual infantry weapons is largely irrelevant.
Even then they usually changed for most countries that aren't America because America is completely full of itself and thinks it can do no wrong.

We have unironically hit peak performance with our current technology. Until some leap in chemistry or materials science comes along, this is it.

My PS3 was already so full of dust that the Santa Monica pier didn't even load during the intro

is it a fake gun too, retard?

impotent eurotrash seething at the dominance of America and Eugene Stoner

tfw every 'modern' rifle still starts with an AR lower and goes from there

Keep buying overpriced plastic trash for your military if it makes you feel better. H&K is laughing at you, all the way to the bank.

I thought your problem was Euros not spending enough on their military?

GTA: San Andreas had wilderness, small towns, underwater swimming, bicycles, planes and jets, barbershops, tattoo parlors, skills, and much more that I can't even remember.

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They did change, making them lighter, having less recoil and making 308 an actually usable cartridge in automatic rifles.
The core design stays the same, however, because it's physics and it just works.

Have you seen RDR2? It's gorgeous and it came out on the ps4. This looks like a perfectly reasonable step up in the visual department considering it's a ps5 game. And R* games tend to look exactly like what's shown in the trailer.

Upper is from the PS4 version, you fucking idiot

also, GTA San Andrea's had purchasable property in numerous cities (and maybe villages) and I think both San Andreas and 4 had road spikes?

why is a weapon that's reliable enough for killing not being replaced?

ARs aren't going anywhere until lasguns with rechargeable batteries are mass producible

Yeah, thats why V was a return to form.

Eat shit Eurofaggot we pope nao

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lol

catholics

lmao

american pedo representation

Good for you, i guess.

based

Nope. You're wrong.

generational leap

anon... 13 years isn't one generation

Hello sarrr

mitigate recoil

They are heavy as fuck so technically true, as compared to firing the same cartridge from AR-15

he's talking about hardware.

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Not a zoomer but that's a retarded argument to make seeing as how fast technology increased back then and now it's slowed to a halt with minimal upgrades.

so am i

i don't get modern gaming.
noone can afford new GPUs because prices are through the roof and inflation has fucked everyone. but all new big games being pushed out are graphical powerhouses and more often than not, unoptimized as well so they don't run properly on beefy PCs either

and consolepoors don't delude yourself that the game is gonna look like in these bullshots and run at 30+ FPS on your Fisher-Price toys lmfao it's gonna be Szoyfield all over again

Why did you just restate what was already said? Are you retarded?

I am not a subhuman PC gaymer I don't need the best graphics that cause games to take 10 years to make. I am fine with PS3-PS4 era graphics as long as the frame rate is good

there's nothing in that picture that doesn't look possible on current gen hardware. it's running at 30 fps for fuck's sake.

it just werks

No because technology has depreciating gains. 90's-2010 saw the biggest jumps. We aren't seeing jumps because of limits not because things were better back then you retard.

hardware doesn't has years for generations, it comes and goes.

GTA 5 was a downgrade. I think 6 is going to be a worthy to successor.

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This is also retarded because up until very recently it was millennials making the games. Sure, millennials experienced those large generational leaps as consumers, but the work was being done by gen Xers. Millennials are the retards that ruined the video game industry.

eat shit nogunz. you are a yuro or an indian who has never shot a gun in your life
but they don't fire the same cartridge

Yawn. Do you have better insults to use. What am I saying, you stan for cuckhole sights.

M4a1 is king

restates it again

Retard it is.

you haven't shot a gun in your life and you eat human shit

GTA4 felt like a real GTA, it felt like what it should be. You think of GTA you imagine something like the sopranos or the wire. GTA5 didn't have that and GTA6 certainly won't have it either.

anon there have been at least 3 hardware generations since GTA V not separating GPU/CPU/RAM/Motherboard gens.

Currently no drives for the change. Massive conflicts or interventions aren't that common in the 21st century.

They don't matter. Swords haven't changed in centuries.

SA isnt an HD gta

AUG is king.

Here's a screenshot I took of RDR2 using the in game photo mode. On a standard Xbox, not even a high end PC. It looks amazing (don't try to lie and tell me it doesn't) and it looks even better in motion. Now consider how much better GTA 6 will look considering it's running on significantly more powerful hardware.

Based. Fuck that guy.

You wasn't meant to say that

You should see how shit Nintendo games look

Rockstar already confirmed the trailer was a mixture of gameplay and cinematic and that it was all captured on a base PS5.

Anon Babbleintendo will have to take the L on this one.

you can't fucking see anything bud
its all bloom and low light
the skybox is low res
the only texture in the foreground is pretty fucking low res as well
shits fucked

GTA 6 will come out and look exactly like the trailers (gorgeous) and people will still be screeching "look at the ground texture!!" If you actually played RDR 2 you would know it's one of the most impressive looking games to date even 7 years later. There's a lot I didn't like about the game like how incredibly restrictive the mission design is, but the devs at R* worked magic in the graphics department. And GTA 6 is going to look even better.

wow, congrats on completely missing the point I guess?

game isn't out yet you fucking retard

I actually like how its no longer a souless stare, just a walking mannequin in gtav.

I always hate this bitchy way of talking.

Errm..sweaty, you kiiiinda missed the point. But good job...I guess?

Shut the fuck up. I hope you're a woman because a man talking like this is sad.

If you don't think the radiant AI will have far better situational adjustment than any game out there, you're an idiot. The wanted system will probably be overhauled too. With Dan houser gone missions probably have far better player agency too.

do you know anything about diminishing returns.

The mayhem for this game will be crazy. Looks like NPC's can board charter buses and said buses look like they can be full as well.

Because realistically, you don't want to add anything more to a rifle, it's already as it should be

A gun's number one necessity is reliability and ease of use. You don't want a rifle that requires any electronics that can corrode, wiring disconnects, or software issues, nor do you want batteries that require charging and chargers and constant access to power supplies. In a battle, you cannot afford to run out of batteries to fire your ammo, every second and shot can count.

A regular rifle can allow a basic nobody to be trained to clean and assemble it, with simple equipment like a few cotton swabs

Bullets do not expire in any realistic sensible time frame if kept vaguely correctly. They are always useable, and the biggest issue is simply ammo sizes between weapons..

shut up kid

Biggest mistake since giving M1 Garand a detachable magazine

What are you talking about? Are you shitting on the M14? The M14's problem was they made it automatic and it was useless as an automatic rifle. It's fine on semi-auto.