I...am forgotten

At least you sold better than Rebirth, so that's something.

Best FF game since 12 (not a praise)

I still want to cum inside Jill "Used Goods" Warrick.

Without a shred of irony: Jill is the best female character Square Enix has ever written.
She's smoking hot, sure, but compared to the two-dimensional whores Rebirth has she's an actual person.

no one's disagreeing with you but that's not a very high bar
plus modern Final Fantasy fans don't care about writing
they want cheap plastic bitches with anime girl personalities so they can pretend they'll one day be loved

Jill is just modern Quistis, a god tier waifu trapped in a truly horrible game

What kinda broken faggot do you have to be to find this attractive? She looks like some old gray-haired grandma with a plastic face.

The least ambitious Final Fantasy...

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT FF16 TALK ABOUT FF16 AND NOT WAIFU SLOP PLS

Ladies, ladies, they both flopped.

Quistis was too much of a marry sue. She didn't actually have any personality beyond poorly-defined loneliness. You know, the type of loneliness that pretty 18 year old blond girls with nice tits and flawless skin feel.
In other words total bullshit.

loneliness is only for ugly people

No loneliness is only for ugly MEN. Even ugly women can easily gain orbiters to prevent loneliness.

I forgive this game and rebirth
Their massive flops will force squeenix back to turn based after ff7 pt3

Let's hang on to the forgiveness until we see actual improvement.

i was gonna say Yuna mogs everyone, but she was a Squaresoft certified classic

an Aerith thread died for this

Oh yes, I very specifically said Square ENIX to avoid that exact confusion.

I...am forgotten...

As you should, you cowardly piece of dogshit. Poses as a mature story with political intrigue and devolves into killing god with the power of friendship. Fucking Naruto-tier writing in FF.

The Titan boss fight moved me to tears.

she's an actual person

That's not a good thing though. Why would anyone want a female character that acts like an actual woman in their fantasy games?

Most characters look so fucking boring and bland, just your typical "cool" anime characters straight from a cheap shonen (haven't played it so I might be wrong, but I'm just judging by their designs)
At least Mr. Chaos killah and his cast seemed goofy and fun

Non-incels actually like women.

Why does she have like 4 halves of a skirt on?
Why don't people in anime games ever dress like they have a brain?

Non-incels can go fuck themselves.

fuck themselves

They don't have to.

But they still should.

LOL. LMAO even. "Clive, you're the best" is not a fucking personality. In fact, I'd argue that actually she's the worst of all FF women except for the NES literally whos, because she has no thoughts, relationships or interests of her own. She only exists to look sad and glaze Clive.

FF is a turn based game.
If it's not, it's not a FF game, but another franchise disguised as a FF.

Barry lost

uuu clive...clive? ahhh help me clive!!! clive i luv u clive

Wow, amazing. At least with penis flytraps like Rosa it's completely unabashed and entertaining on a comedic level.

Barry shits on XVI

it flops

Barry shits on Rebirth

it flops

Barry shits on ur life

it flops

Barry has been on a winning streak for years

I remember you Clive. Too bad about the rest of the game though.

she's pretty the rest of the game tho...

to be forgotten, you have to be remembered which we know no one even care to remember your sorry ass.

I think this might be the most boring video game I've ever played

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The only thing I remember about this entire game and it's official SE-funded shill campaign is this one trailer:

youtube.com/watch?v=GBx-HJoHpx4

That's literally the only thing.

This has nothing to do with XVI, but it's always fascinating to see people who obviously don't play video games pretend to play video games. There's always something about how they hold the controller, to their posture to the way they time the button-presses that looks so unnatural. You can tell some director who didn't give a shit was instructing them between each shot to "just look over here and press a button at a time with your thumb while making some excited sound" and that's what they did.

In their defense, those people are athletes. They probably only have a very vague notion of what a video game is, much less a lot of experience playing them. You'd probably look pretty awkward too if you were tasked with advertising something you knew very little to nothing about.

Why on God's green earth they chose athletes to do this is a question only Sony and maybe SE can answer.

release "modern" FF

protag is a bara

all male cast

who wants this shit? asian masculinity incels on reddit?

Clive is too thin to be considered bara

It and 7 remake need a patch that puts all the actions on triggers. Face buttons fuck up what could be a good experience.

yup, square forgot that the appeal of their games is destroying god as a stuffed animal at the center of a bunny girl harem

The control scheme is the LEAST of those games' issues.

There's like 5 minutes of gameplay for every 15 minutes of filler. The filler is awful tooi. What were they thinking?

I will never forget Clive and his luscious titties

The game that proved never go too smart. It's amazing how many Anons couldnt think past game of thrones.
TotK goes full 82 IQ and wins GOTY.

Everything about this game was awful aside from the voice acting and a handful of tracks.

We have Verso at home

the superior game won goty over both

you can use your intelligence and creativity in TotK to solve puzzle and build insane contraptions

you can use your intelligence and creativity in XVI to...

Find the Flame is still stuck in my head. I still think Soken and YoshiP dickriders should dickride themselves to fucking helllllll

This. They both fucking suck and deserved to flop. This franchise died decades ago.

Find the Flame, Away, and Land of Eikons were amazing tracks. Everything is mediocre generic slop.

Do or Die and Titan Lost were fun too and I usually feel meh about Soken's take on pro skater soundtrack.

Never mind forgotten, it basically never got talked about in the first place. Like, I never played 15 either and yet I know all the characters and some plot points because of how much it's been talked about online. I've seen every mainline 3D FF have lots of discussion. Hell, some of the spinoffs get more discussion.
All I know about 16 in comparison is that the main guy is called Clive, and that's only because he's in Tekken.

That's a good thing.

It was an impressive feat to make the game a massive fireworks show and still have it come out to be so extraordinarily bland and generic that it barely got any discussion. Hell, most of the discussion surrounding this game is whether it was even any good or not.

to solve puzzle

Anon I...
True

SE is too obsessed with making cutscenes, they never got gud at making a good game.

mainline FF game

only 1 character

They gave up.

all male cast

I love how you people deliberately ignore female characters so you can shriek and rant about "gayness".

Final Fantasy fan admits to only playing Final Fantasy and no other Square works

I don't even think FF16 is that bad but man people have the weirdest complaints about FF like every single entry must follow the golden rules.

start projecting fantasy irl

Lots of retards failed to understand fantasy cannot be materialized into reality

If you don't follow the core tenants of a series, it's not a game in that series.

what are ff core tenants because so many of these fffags retards ignore the best game of the series and the few that do actually praise the best game in the series do it for the wrong reasons

Fucking obvious

Start game

On-rails fight right on you face

5 hours of tutorial afterwards

Who gave the ok to this? jesus

what are ff core tenants

Nta, but for me those are:

turn-based combat

a party of lovable weirdos

classic FF jobs

classic FF monsters

grand story about fighting world-threatening something

"Hollywood" happy ending

And yes, I realize that not all "classic" FF games follow all of those to a t. But still for a new FF game I would expect at least 5/6 for it to be a true FF experience.

Not him but

turn-based combat

FF hasn't been turn based since like FF2 or something

a party of lovable weirdos

16 has that

classic FF jobs

Not many of the games has job system. Not even 7 or 10 which people loves.

classic FF monsters

Already in all FF games

grand story about fighting world-threatening something

16 already has that

"Hollywood" happy ending

10 doesn't have that happy ending yet people loves it for it

too many cutscenes
i wouldn't mind if you could skip them
i played the demo and half of the time i would just alt tab and wait for cutscene to end so i could actually play the game
thank god they released a demo, i was close to actually buying this game

oh wait, im wrong
from what i remember you couldn't even alt+tab because cutscenes would just pause if you did that lmao
so i was sitting with my phone like some zoomer doing some other shit on the phone while waiting for cutscenes to end

right? what's with these weirdos man. it's funny you say this shit but the prime ff nobody really likes except for superficial reasons even though it's so overlooked it's crazy.

Somebody needs to tell SE that cutscenes aren't cool anymore, people want to press buttons alot like in Souls games.

Like I've said I know that not all classic FF games have all the things I've mentioned. I'm just trying to formulate what I consider to be the soul of FF for me. Also

FF hasn't been turn based since like FF2 or something

I count ATB as turn-based.

Not many of the games has job system. Not even 7 or 10

Yes and that's not a good thing. I believe classic jobs are integral at keeping the FF-feel to the combat system. And obviously I'm not a fan of 7, 8, 10 and 12 non-job version free-for-all character building systems.

10 doesn't have that happy ending yet people loves it for it

I don't.

Hey I'm looking to get back into GITS and I watched the OG movie quite a while back. I was thinking if I should re-watch it or try the Live Action adaptation for a refresher before I watch the second movie. Yes I've already watched Patlabor 1 and 2.

FFXVI combat rework

4 weapons to choose: Sword, Great Sword, Lances and One hand Staves. Each has its own moveset. Staves lets you use a shield. You can only block with Great swords (lower % block) and staves/shields. Cant cast magic with Great swords or Lances.

sword for light/fast attacks. Great sword for slower but stronger attacks. Lances for range and pierce attack. Staves for range magic attacks (non-elemental)

2 damage types: Slash or pierce.

Added elemental weaknesses and resistances (fire, ice, water, lightning, wind, earth, holy and dark, for each Eikon)

3 setups, can be changed on the fly in-battle. You can set your eikon, with your abilities, and the weapon type.

Abilities are still Cooldown based

charged attack applies the element from the eikon you are using, no longer just fire.

The magic proyectiles, when charged, change their properties. Charged fire (fira and firaga) is aoe nuke. Charged Blizzard (blizzara and blizzaga) freezes the enemy for a couple of seconds, duration increases when charged. And so on.

Stagger system revamped. Now its like FF7r series as a general rule. Some weaker to magic, others when you Dodge them, parry them, etc. All the mechanics help.

Limit break revamped. Its always ifrit but it has its own unique moveset (the ifrit moves). No longer uses the same moveset, now it attacks with claws.

enemies do more damage and they are faster. They gang on you.

weapons can be imbued with different status effects. Silence powder, elemental affinities, poison powder, etc. These effects come from ítems.

status effects added. Poison, silence (cant cast magic), paralysis (cant use abilities), petrify (you are stopped and you have to mash your buttons to break free) and others

Dodge is no longer the universal way to avoid damage. Now, there are AOE attacks that need to be jumped on. Some proyectiles follow you and you have break them with your own magic and/or deflect them.

forgotten

Nigger there has been a thread about XVI every week since it was released.
Some fag with a hair up his ass about Yoshida never stops bringing up the game.
I doubt there's been as many NV threads as there have been XVI.

forgotten

daily threads still

lives rent free in a retard's head

I thought it was a disappointment, but like 15 it hurts because you could see the potential in the characters and setting. The sidequests and itemization are among the worst issues, besides that the mmo-like combat rotation that really d8id not want to commit to a full action framework.

Jill is the best female character Square Enix has ever written

Disagree.

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bumping this question

this rage bait

haha holy shit almost caught me, luckily i held back.
tbf jill as a candidate is also stupid but haha holy crap you almost got me about to write a paragraph

People joke that the lead writer is a woman hater, because even in FF14 he almost always either kills off female characters or just seemingly has no idea how to make them relevant to the plot.

So same as turn based fags

at least the game released finished, 15 can't say the same

No. Good game.

I don't think you guys are real ff fans

This game was fucking ass to play

its not a high bar to pass but 16 is better than 15 simply because 16 wasn't chopped to pieces to be sold as a dozen DLCs

yeah you still didn't answer my question so you're not a ff fan.

It's better than 15 in almost every way, but yes — that's certainly not a high bar.

Who cares, ff fans always fight between them lmao

no memorable party members

stripped down DMC combat

MMO tier time wasting quests

soulless medieval setting

shit story

i cant only say that i liked the music

I know it's the most boring game I've ever played.

we want the modern action based combat audience

NONONONO please come back boomers

HELP our game is selling like shit

You've not played many games, or even many FF games then.

Some fag sure is upset that 16 isn't the worst mainline FF game

every FF after 12 is pure slop
just let it die already

World of Final Fantasy is a return to kino though, a little spin-off game that tried to course correct away from the actionslop that 15 turned the series into

Abandoning their western branch didn't solve all their problems??! Gadzooks!

every FF after 4 is pure slop

FTFY

actually thinking jill is a better character than every other square female is a deranged viewpoint

she's pretty average

Well maybe you wouldn'T have been forgotten if you actually were a goddamn Final Fantasy jrpg and not some wanna be devil may cry spinoff

How is a game constantly brought up in every turn based thread forgotten?

Everyone is playing Final Chaddery 7 Kinobirth
I'm at the cat part, it's so based bros
Luv me Yuffie
Luv me Aerith
Luv me Tifa
'ate Sepiroth
Simple as

Back in 2005/2006 rumblings of a FF7 remake started with that ps3 tech demo. People always chalked it up as SEs “golden goose, break glass in case of emergency” game that was supposed to sell a gorillion copies. Look where we are now. Sad.

jesus christ
and I remember when people gave SE shit for making 3 Lightning games

Dead games don't have dedicated shitposters

game that was supposed to sell a gorillion copies

If they made an actual remake of 7 it might have

She’s little more than Clive’s emotional support dog

lol

FPBP

splits game into 3 parts and releases it over 10 years

completely changes the gameplay and story while adding padding and side quests out the ass to make the games feel “full”

what do you mean it didn’t sell well?!?

crazy still not reply. that's hilarious. ff fans everyone

Sounds kino

It is, everyone should play it and I’m sure you can pirate it

And all is right with the world.

It’s a mod, retard

Nier Automata was published by SE

You faggots literally can’t let it be forgotten when you keep making threads

you fags cannot go 5 seconds after a turn based RPG releases without remembering it I think it'll be remembered just fine

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Even Clive's English voice actor knows FF16 is shit after jumping ship to the better game voicing a party character in Expedition 33.

like every single entry

They haven't been followed in 25 years

I think Yotsuyu is better written and explored but you literally spend more time with her than mommy so its not a fair comparison
Still Venat is a golden standard of what a empowering female character is

No it won't, play Expedition 33 it blows FF16 out of the water and it's not even close. It has everything an FF game should have. A party, rpg mechanics, elemental weaknesses, you can camp in the Overworld and talk with your party members, it has party conversations in the game not only during scripted cutscenes, it has customisation, minigames the minigames are great even has jumping puzzles, the game rewards you for exploring, the story is good and mysterious the characters are intriguing and definitely grow on you, the music is amazing the game world is so unique.
Honestly play Expedition 33 or watch a playthrough if you can't afford it and see for yourself, the only thing FF16 has are the cinematic spectacle boss battles but even those are present in Exp 33.

did you even read what you replied to

Yes did you? OP is saying FF16 is forgotten, the post I replied to is saying it'll be remembered and I say it won't be.
So, did you read the comment chain or not?

did you understand what the guy you replied to implied?

Did you read my post?

maybe I'm just speaking to a chatbot lmao
or god forbid an actual shill for a niche french JRPG game

Anon, I have played both FF16 and Exp 33, I loved 16 when it released but it has enormous shortcomings, the flaws are too numerous to make it a memorable game and the story isn't strong enough because even Heavensward from FF14 was a better story than presented in FF16, written by Maehiro the same guy who also was inspired by Game of Thrones.
It's not enough on it's own to carry a game anymore, the branding the name "Final Fantasy" while discarding all those elements which comprised a FF game.
This is why it's so shocking that Exp 33 has almost all those elements, made by a tiny team with a fraction of the budget and modern Square Enix can't do the same with their own franchise.
You can dismiss me all you want but what you're doing there deflecting, you're lying to yourself and to others because you think you have to fanboy SE and FF. Stop it.

Does anyone have a video of her waving goodbye to Clive with the cat.

I am bored out of my mind, I just completed lostwing (the first map after you reach cid's hideout)
Will it get any better or will it be this slog of a combat/story all the way through?

and Jill was there too I guess

If you're not digging it just drop it. I was digging it at first, but lost interest so bad near the end it took me over a month to muster up the willpower to even finish it, and honestly I felt the game was just a huge waste of time. It doesn't get better. Just watch the highlights on Youtube and wash your hands of this game.

The only thing about Jill I can even remember is the fact that she got kidnapped three fucking times in one video game.

There are posts about this game here every single day, not sure that counts as forgotten desu.

It's forgotten by the rest of the world, which is what matters. A few dozen of us Anon Babbleirgins doesn't make it a remembered classic.