I can only play an RPG if it features adults and looks realistic.
If it looks like it's too anime, it's icky.
When did this notion start gaining traction?
I can only play an RPG if it features adults and looks realistic
anime destroys the credibility of all art because its designs are babyish and made for the lowest common denominator: mentally ill people.
Since normal people started playing RPGs around the time of Oblivion
Define "normal."
When did this notion start gaining traction?
No notion, little bro, just instinct. I for one am similarly repulsed by homosexuals in the same manner as anime. I'm sorry not everyone is interested in your gay little cartoons, gangster.
Most westerners are uninterested in or repulsed by anime. Think average person on the street, not the quiet kid in school
my IQ has only two digits therefore I can only enjoy one kind of thing
make ugly characters
defame anime women out of jealousy
Redditors are gonna reddit as shown here
Anime is divided by target demographics.
Shonen is for boys.
Shojo is for girls.
Seinen is for adult men.
Josei is for adult women.
I don't watch anime. I just don't those who do.
judge those who do*
No one has ever said this.
Stop arguing with yourself.
When did this notion start gaining traction?
about 20 years ago, zoomie
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It's less about it looking like anime and more about it having terrible fucking writing. Not saying Clair 33 writing is amazing, but it's far more bearable than the average JRPG coming from Japan.
Nobody is going to remember any of the characters from this slop
>If it looks like it's too anime, it's icky.
I feel like you'll try to deflect anything, but i don't feel like HxH for example, suffers from the "too anime" problem. Maybe it's because the story and characters are actually interesting and not one dimensional like in jrpg's. If they start making games like that, where the story is not a literal joke with mustache twirling villains and waifus everywhere, power of friendship, etc, maybe people will start taking these anime games more seriously
i can't enjoy games unless it has fanservice
better yet expedition 33 expanded the stale ass genre by making combat more engaging and writing characters that aren't designed for 12 year old boys
Action commands are not new.
Solution: stop playing games aimed at teenagers and play ones made for adults
And HxH is a shonen I.E. made for teen boys
cartoon stylized little girls are for incels, i only get aroused by realistic children
The way it usually happens is
buy rpg
it has chinese cartoon graphics, pretty cute
writing is fucking horrible, barely a story by western childrens' book standards, no characterization past "angry" or "shy", just endless vividly colored dolls lining up to tell you you're so cool
ok, maybe if i buy one with an adult on the cover it'll be a game for adults
Apparently, you've missed the discourse from people with that exact sentiment, acting as if this game is the first ever RPG with adults and acting like they can FINALLY play a JRPG now.
I've literally never seen it happen apart from obvious bait threads.
Caring about whether a game is "for adults" or not is actually childish. Play what you want and stop giving a shit about what others might think.
And HxH is a shonen I.E. made for teen boys
It doesn't matter if it's a shonen or not, the point is that the quality of the narrative and the way the story is written matter, and these anime games are bottom of the barrel in these aspects.
Go on twitter
You think adults stop watching Barney out of peer pressure and not because it no longer fulfils their standards?
fpbp
I don't mind playing anime JRPGs, the issue is that they're fucking shit 90% of the time. E33 isn't a marvel because it doesn't have an anime artstyle, it's because they actually made a JRPG that wasn't garbage.
Lol. 90% of JRPG characters have 0 lasting appeal with 9% being carried by nostalgia. Joker was the last big JRPG character to have a huge fanbase and the vast majority of Persona fans online never played his fucking game.
Last I checked, Tales of Vesperia wasn't aimed at toddlers.
I've heard more people complain about this "notion" than people actually voicing it.
I try not to
The characters being adults means absolutely nothing.
People hyped Kaiju No. 8 for having a protagonist in his 30s, but he and the rest of the "adult" characters act no differently than the teenagers in other shonens.
A character has to be good for anyone to have nostalgia for them.
look at this dialogue and tell me if you don't go full cringe
youtu.be
I prefer more stylized artstyle but it's refreshing to see protagonists that aren't some high school aged cumstains.
There's plenty of that even in anime. It's called seinen. Stop consuming media that you know is made for teenagers and complaining about the characters being teenagers.
When was the last time you played that?
Twitter tards who want to be taken "seriously" when they game. They think anime girls with big tits is beneath them.
Personally, because I am a well-rounded person, I think there is room for all genres and I can enjoy every genre in a different way. I enjoy what Clair Obscur has to offer, a JRPG experience with a mature tint to it. I can also enjoy a JRPG with big anime titties. Variety is the spice of life.
That said I discard all reddit opinions. I also think people who hate turn-based games are a lower class of people.
Lune's feet will be remembered longer than the party of your average JRPG. Hell, nevermind that: who remembers XVI's heroine and her non-personality anymore?
I agree with you but why would you post the ENG dub version?
I only play anime games then played this and liked it. Sometimes it’s nice to get a break from the same anime tropes I’ve seen since high school
E33 is as anime as it gets. The only difference is that it copies seinen anime instead of shonen.
And yet practically no JRPG tried to incorporate them outside of Paper Mario so much so they do feel new
This game is full of "anime tropes"
There is nothing here that isn't commonplace in stuff like Berserk or Vinland Saga
It's just how some people are. When I was growing up video games were considered a toy for children. Some adults see anime as cartoons and can't look beyond that. It's just automatically discounted. It's like how a zoomer will see a little skin and call something gooner bait and anyone that enjoys women not in burqas are porn addicts. It's a really shallow labelling tool in the brain that people use to not have to invest too much energy into thinking about something critically.
It's good, but that doesn't mean every JRPG should become like it.
The problem I find with the characters especially the male ones is I thought they were all clones of each other.
Couldn't they not make a dude with a beard and wavy ear length hair? I know it's french, and in all honesty with how the plot was going it sounds intentional.
Also the problem with 3D QTErpgs with dynamic cameras is that sometimes you can't tell what's hitting you because gustave loves the camera.
that's mari
The problem I find with the characters especially the male ones is I thought they were all clones of each other
Two of them are directly related to each other to be fair.
When normgroids got involved.
Netflix RPG for the Game of Thrones fandom.
I've liked most FF games before FFX.
Loved most DQ games before DQX.
Really liked Persona 4. Couldn't stand Persona 5.
Found SMT Nocturne and SMTIV delightful.
Played through Tales of Symphonia as a kid and I remember liking it, but realize it probably won't hold up.
Which JRPG should I play next?
You sound like you haven't played the game and the way you imagine Expedition 33 to be doesn't match up with reality.
>I can only play an RPG if it features adults and looks realistic.
>If it looks like it's too anime, it's icky.
Yes.
The dialogue is more mature and intelligent than perona 3/4/5, SMT, and Xenoblade
it isn't
it's just netflix castlevania shit
Japs should never make games ever again
Chrono Trigger
Lufia 2
All the best and most important games coming out for the rest of the year are Japanese. The west has lost. Years ago. Only Rockstar is carrying all your slop over there.
The overly shiny and pretty look of anime makes it hard to ever consider it a serious plot about tragic concepts. Sometimes it works but most anime is very superficial. You watch it for cute feel good stories.
Trannies are getting their dirty mitts on JRPG now. Concerning.
This notion doesn't exist you're strawmanning hard. People have playes JRPGs for decades about high school settings with shitty anime unity tier graphics, me included. Having a good change in pace using a better engine with more realistic graphics and a mature story come around and be successful tells you that it can work though and the industry should be looking at more settings and ideas rather than locking the genre into a T ratind game about high school
All the best and most important games coming out for the rest of the year are Japanese.
I don't give shit about other games, the west just clowned Japan at their pet genre. It's over, Japs need to pack it up and go home.
Too many said it in ironic jest.
The idiots felt like they're in good company and the sentiment prevails.
Joker was the last big JRPG character to have a huge fanbase and the vast majorit
Last and only really. No one remembers anything else about jrpgs. Every MC is some generic bland thing.
NTA but you're retarded. It's definitely more intelligent than your average atlus game and damn neae everything is smarter than any Xeno game you're coping and being a forced contrarian so here's the (YOU) that's apparently so desperately needed
retard
Around the time Final Fantasy XIII came out, when the media began crusading against Eastern games and began seriously shilling Western games.
FF13 was trash
Wish people would stop trying to force this narrative. As an Expedition 33bro I don't see it as clowning JP but setting an example of what's possible and what can sell. Imagine if this opens the market for JRPGs to finally step up out of the shitty anime style and lean more towards FF or RE style more realistic engines and slap in actually well thoughout plots that aren't >le bad guy did a bad thing
Be positive about this bro it doesn't have to be them vs us it can be beneficial to everyone
Nobody cares if it's anime or not, however there are studies that prove that autists can only engage with anime styled characters because they can't read expressions on a normal human face.
Probably some of these autists are unhappy about this game right now and are false flagging.
Final Fantasy XIII
tried it
story is nonsensial and chaotic like all japanese games where they favor style and visuals than any coherent plot
never finished it and never would.
Japs can't write
Sure, but that's not really relevant to the conversation. It's just the answer to his question. That's when the notion that "anime" = bad started gaining traction.
If this is true it actually makes so much sense looking at your average JRPG fan actually even looking at your average anime game fan this is fucking mind blowing
Anon you shouldn't be on mobile devices saying stuff like this
woo-woo-woo-woo-woo! nevron! no heckin distractions chungus, i'm le busy beating up strangers epic style! i don't need pointers ermmm from someone sitting on his lazy ar*se???
It's Netflix slop.
That notion is right.
Wait.
Do people unironically think anime style is a red flag?
Like. Sure. Anime as a medium, especially now, sucks.
But just an anime art style is enough to turn people off? How is that even a thing? Or is it just insecurity?
Nice reddit spacing fag
The faces are so fucking ugly. I cannot believe I considered making a purchase
Japs can't write endings
Fify there's alot of great jp stories out there. Nisioisn, Oshimi Shuzo Asano Inio, Asaga Iori to name a few of my favorites but these slant eyed niggers always botch the ending. The real issue is they always have some isekai tier writer on JRPG storylines
Tranny I would still love E33 if it looked like fucking Wakfu, which btw is the closest frogs have gotten to animu
Anime is a medium, so it can't be bad, only individual works can be.
So then why is every anime retarded slop?
The whole fucking point of anime characters is that they're deliberately exaggerated and not like real human beings. That's the appeal.
There's no point in trying to emulate reality because reality already exists.
Oh yeah, show me a Seninen JRPG from the last decade
Wait, Anon Babble hates E33?
Why does Anon Babble hate E33? I don't think it's the best game, but it's definitely an objectively good one. There's definitely no reason to hate it or to shitpost it.
It isn't, see There's anime for every age and gender demographic.
false narrative
"anime" isn't the problem. the reason japanime is on the way out is for the same reason jap live action is DOA. japs are so overexposed to cringe shit that they can no longer see where the line is.
It's ugly. The tone is ugly, the people are ugly, their personalities are ugly, I shit on it for a lot of the same reasons I shit on Mass Effect Andromeda. I also hate how obviously astroturfed it is.
It's just FF7fags that hate it.
It's true, it's easier for autists to categorize emotions if it's exaggerated anime characters over reacting. It makes a lot of sense yeah.
It doesn't mean all JRPG and anime fanboys are autists tho.
Where did this forced narrative came that E33 looks realistic?
Grr it's netflix SLOP now excluse me while I power of friendship through Persoyna 5 again
Hey, I'm at the island with the masks, how much I have left to do?
I'm starting to get a bit bored
I feel like the appeal can be the story too, and maybe Japanese exoticism.
Persona 5 is shit, too? Multiple games can be bad, anon.
It's ugly. The tone is ugly, the people are ugly
That's what I thought before I played it. I thought it looked like a really ugly Tim Burton crossover with Disney, but having actually played it, it's nothing like that, and the artstyle grew on me. If you say it's ugly, that shows to me that you have not actually played it, because that's what I thought before I played it as well.
their personalities are ugly
False. You haven't played the game.
I see. That would make a lot of sense, actually. They do tend to ruin all vaguely RPG discussion. I wish they would just move on. Unfortunately, SE threw them a bone with the Remake, which only renewed their vigor and probably even spawned some zoomer incarnations of their brand of cancer.
Ah yes, Paper Maryo, the most realistic of vidya.
You've got another slightly larger level, then a huge level. A few bosses in between although prepare for some lengthy fights and scenes.
always botch the ending.
Its amazing how many animes and anime movies completely botch the ending. Its like they dont put any effort into it.
If you just play the story and don't do any side content, you've got like 3 more dungeons left before you beat the game, depending on whether or not you already fought the other boss.
That's because what's appealing in anime becomes cringe in live action. Anime and live action are different mediums with different strengths.
Does everyone who hates anything Japanese or anime just exclusively stick to media older than fifteen years or are they retards who consume modern western slop and have zero self awareness?
always botch the ending
Expedition 33 also botches the ending. It took queues from standard JRPGs in that regard.
queues
japanime is on the way out
by what metric, genshinigger?
Yeah, "cues", my bad. My hands just type words that sound like what I'm thinking. Sometimes it blends them together even.
but having actually played it, it's nothing like that, and the artstyle grew on me
Sunk cost fallacy. You say someone doesn't like it because they haven't played it. I say you only like it because you have.
this is a dogshit argument regardless of game, of course you need to play a game to know if you like it
Do you realize that you are inadvertently admitting that you, in fact, did not play the game? I guess the people who are shitposting E33 are just people who haven't played it. I wonder if the other guy saying it's just FF7fags shitposting yet another game is right.
Sunk cost fallacy
I pirated it, and I enjoyed it, and I do not think it is ugly, which is something I did think before I played it.
I really liked the gameplay ff13-2. But monster collecting shit always gets me
literal retard realizes that people need to actually experience something to know whether or not they like it
Endings have always largely been terrible, because the writer doesn't have the ending planned out when they start writing
It's always been that way, since forever
Heck up to this day people get super mad about you ponting out that Dark Souls/Demon souls are JRPGs
comic relief moments vs general attitude
its not possible to like this game AND anime jrpgs because... its just not ok! you have to fall into my arbitrary forced dichotomy ! nah fuck off faggot. I love jrpgs, in fact its most of what I play. This game feels similar to FF VIII, Lost Odyssey, and Shadow Hearts. Not every jrpg is fucking dragon quest slop.
What causes someone who has never and will never play a particular video game to spend hours of their life shitposting about it after having watched parts of it on YouTube?
seething about things on the internet distracts them from having to think about their vapid, soulless empty lives
Yeah, I genuinely don't understand why the fuck people act like Expedition 33 is clowning on Japan or making it an E33 vs the Entire Japanese Game Industry argument. The game is obviously infatuated with JRPGs and everybody that worked on it seems to be obsessed with them. The reason I like E33 so much is BECAUSE it's so similar to older JRPGs that I like and that you can tell the devs had a lot of passion for them. There's constant references to them even beyond the mechanical similarity.
France and Japan have been passionately making love (culturally) for decades and people are losing their minds that a French video game is obviously in love with Japanese video games.
Good ending bros... we'll never get a dub in our media...
its a false dichotomy made by people who just like to seethe about things. theres no reason to think e33 isnt a homage and celebration of jrpgs just because it doesnt fall into the tropes that some of them do. jrpgs are not monolithic, they arent all over the top cringe
So true bros we should all be teaming up against the real enemies, Triple A rpgs, weggers and gachasloppers...
That is true and the editors make them spin out the popular series forever to make money it becomes stupid.
Look Outside's perfect ending is by far the best video game ending of any recent game I can remember. I can't remember the last time I was so completely an utterly satisfied by a video game ending. It's been a long time.
ACTUAL SPOILERS
Do not click this image if you ever plan on playing Look Outside
I'll check it out after work, thanks for the rec bro. For me? Best endings I've seen recently probably from clearing both Syserasure games a few months back. Good tie in lore between them too.
HxH for example
HXH doesn't suffer from it because it doesn't have modern anime dogshit character designs. The vast majority of anime have an extremely lazy artstyle with awful generic character designs. I'm a visual guy and when I see a team of generic anime moeblob character designs it puts me off. You also know that if the character designs are generic, the rest of it probably will be as well.
it's more mature than Persona
NO
FUCKING
SHIT
You may as well have said "It's more mature than Pokemon". Yeah, because Pokemon is a fucking kids game and Persona is young adult fiction. E33 is not the only JRPG written without those audiences as the primary target.
This is why you people are so annoying. No fucking shit if you compare it to the most teen fiction franchise in the entire genre it'll compare like that, you dumbass.
This game is pretty "anime" though.
I vividly remember this exact line of dialouge
Oh great anon, Sage unc of times past. Please bestow an iota of your wisdom upon this thread and share other JRPGs with adult characters and mature themes.
Xenogears
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Lost Odyssey
Black Souls
Literally all slop 33 fans say this
Thanks babe I'll check them out in a bit
There are different types of anime games. For example. Persona and Metaphor and Fire Emblem are all cringey weeb shit. But FF7 Rebirth is not cringe or weeb.
But FF7 Rebirth is not cringe or weeb.
Rebirth absolutely is, the originals arent.
FF7 isn't weeb
That's how it's always been.
Normies and women have always avoided anything that looks japanese.