You DID beat her without magic, shield, or summons...right?

i miss when swarm of flies decimated her by itself. shame it got nerfed

I beat her solo with comet azur because all summons just fed her health

I got bored and quit before I met her, like any sane conscious human being would. This game would be amazing if not for the open world. It's way too big and empty, also the game could make due without all the copy-pasted shit like the dungeons

With my BBC. Like always.

I used all of the 3 and more.

With dual halbards.
She was no match for my jump attacks

Wouldn't summons make things worse?

wouldn't roleplaying as a tranime girl online make things worse?

damn anon dont be so mean towards this redditor

I defeated her with a DS3 left stick drift which made my character randomly walk to the left

I wish fromsoftware didnt turn into a reddit company

Yeah, she really isn't very hard, more obnoxious than actually difficult.

shield

Shields aren't even good against her.

This is 100% true. The open world really ruins Elden Ring because it adds absolutely nothing to the gameplay.

did you beat her level 1 no equipment no flasks? you didn't beat the game.

yeah but it took me lots of trys desu

NOOO you're not supposed to optimise and figure out an optimal strategy!!!

just smash your head against the wall until you win!!!!!11

Why are Soulsdrones like this? No, really. Why? Can you imagine any other action RPG where the "meta" is to disregard the game's systems, itemisation, synergies, everything - or else you're a noob and a casual? Fucking, imagine Diablo if players behaved like this. What the FUCK?

yes
I beat her solo in a fair 1v1 combat with my fair and balanced arcane build using arcane hoslow's petal (singular, because im not ng+ pussy)

bleed cheese + mimic summon

seethe

Lol, no, +10 Bloodhound's Fang and 10+ Mimic Tear. We tore her tf up yesterday, then went on to rape Mohg even harder this morning.

Because those retards beat the game like that and are upset because they later found out that using the things available to you in the game would've made their time much easier and they got annoyed with the game. It's 100% sheer and genuine cope.

Depends on the summon.
I was using twin puppet summons on my first playthrough and we stunlocked her to death in phase 1.

later

lmao, everyone knows summons are easy mode

You DID beat her without magic, shield, or summons...right?

You DID beat her without jumping right?

You DID beat her without rolling right?

You DID beat her without moving right?

You DID beat her without attacking right?

You DID beat her right?

You Beat her right?

You beat her?

You beat?

Not strictly talking about summons, I'm talking everything available.

shields will keep you alive through waterfowl and thats the only thing that matters for this fight.
who gives a shit if she heals a bit its better than being dead.

didn't beat melania only using a DDR pad

I thought you guys played video games...

Malenia has low poise and low resistance to bleed and frostbite, so as long as the summon AI doesn't go full retard then you can stagger her a lot, which leads to a whole bunch of free hits over the course of the fight. considering that the staggers also interrupt her attacks and she has lifesteal even through 100% blocks, getting some extra staggers in makes a big difference.

If you mean no big shield cheese, yes. I beat her with the buckler for parries and misericorde. It took forever to learn because I'm slow.

No. I am a Mortal and she is a fucking God. Of course i will have to use every single trick and tactic to try and even the fight.
I summoned two allies who helped me beat her

especially since theres people who say using ashes of war and jump attacks means you didnt beat the game, its dumb as fuck

I used mimic and a bleed build. Not like the fight is well designed

I killed her with a jump attack into her exploding bloom which killed me too. Mutually assured destruction. Didn’t hear her ending monologue until NG+.

Honestly, the only reason she's annoying is because of her gay ass anime attack and her healing on block. It just feels cheap, then again, if she didn't have either of those then she'd be just as forgettable as every other boss in Elden Ring and this thread wouldn't exist.

If you avoid using game mechanics, you are avoiding playing the game, therefore you are also not beating the game.

It still doesn't explain why this mindset ever gained traction. I say again: imagine it applied to any other aRPG. Imagine a Diablo player going:

Oh, you took your time to figure out the game's systems, learned the stats, synergies, damage formulae, did all the calculations, grinded for the right items and put it all together across a several dozen hours?

Clearly you must be a CASUAL.

You'd think they were insane!

Shitposting. That's literally why.

Nope. I used summons and magic and beat her in like 4 tries. That's just how I roll, I get things done and I move on.

Killed her with dual Magma Blades. The second after killed her, I died to rot.
But it still counted, she was still dead after I revived.

Nah. I tried but i just couldn't.

i beat radahn and his femboy with greatshield + rot rapier cheese
i beat the game

It's shitposting but there's a very real contingent of sweaty bois who seek real to derive world validation for doing stupid shit in vidya.

so stressful and rage inducing better are the sony movies and Bethesda comfy "real" open worlds

She's pretty easy with Great Katana, especially with Impaling Thrust.

Consort is much much harder.

lots of bosses on ER rely on being cheap instead of being well thought out combats with a hard but fair and nice flow of attacks. I don't think I enjoyed a single boss fight whereas I keep going back to sekiro and ds3 every now and then. I mean just look at fucking dlc radahn

dlc radahn

Embracing me inner DSP and just gonna say upfront that he's very poorly designed.

He just doesn't work with ER's combat system.

Same, the only boss I enjoyed in the entirety of Elden Ring was the DLC Dancing Lion boss, he was interesting.

I used magic AND summons, beat her on 6th try
currently doing the DLC, last night I beat midra on first try with my trusty poo enjoyer summon and comet spam
I'm beating the game

If you beat the game, you beat the game.

lots of bosses on ER rely on being cheap instead of being well thought out combats with a hard but fair and nice flow of attacks

Even Gaydahn crumbles to a simple SnS build, there's nothing cheap about ER, you just want mindless button mashers

Yeah, but I did use jump heavies

Last time I played ER I used Bloodhound Fang and Mimic tear. We shat on both of her phases in like 20 seconds, what a good weapon.

Bloodhound Fang and Mimic tear

Just say you didn't beat the game and keep it moving.

Yes, blasphemous blade did the job surprisingly well. She was on the ground the whole fight.

too dumb to figure out which weapons and spells are good

calls others bad

lmao, git gud

She heals from hitting you mimic, so I found it easier without summoning desu

world building adds nothing to the gameplay

absolute retarded take play your queue simulators

Retard

What do you mean? It says here I beat her and beat the game

it adds absolutely nothing of value, idiot. souls games are not the games that play better just because theres more open space. a perfect example being the new mario kart, the tracks are so fucking big it ruins the gameplay, fuck off with your retarded posts.

you beat nothing you cheating swine

he plays video games for the story

FUCKIN LEL

I beat her with my dick

But it says I did

I hate this board so fucking much

But you're still here?

It's always hilarious how Elden Ring violently skullfucied the retards that don't understand committment, spacing and frametraps. It took endgame/dlc Dark Souls 3 enemy and combat design and amped it across the whole game. Ishizaki is too based

So you now have a rotten dick like a tranny lmao

I am positive this webm is meant as bait

yeah by making it almost impossible to determine the space you need or when you're allowed to attack.

finally playing ER blind

60lvl

build paralysis kicks in

Am I imagine things or weapon moveset variety is god awful compared to DS3? I'm using estoc with garbage meteorite katana and I hate them so much it's unreal. Every new weapon I see is just generic shit and the most fun weapons seems like 2H str or fth ones. Where is my Valorheart in ER?

Works on my machine

if you rolled to peat her thayslejgelagdfj!

It doesn't, you just defend it anyway because you think it makes you look good.

The game is massively biased towards big weapons and spamming Jump R2 to stun enemies. They call it "making your own openings" because even the developers recognize they forgot to make boss movesets sensible.

why do you souls fanboys all seem to have aspergers

I used braggart’s roar with the nightrider glaive.

build paralysis kicks in

what kind of faggot shit is this?

I summoned Zanzibart

Analysis paralysis.

just spam r1 with whatever weapon like you're supposed to? Not like fromsoft puts any effort into the playable character's moveset in any of their games

The only thing you're not allowed to use is summons. Not that shields and magic actually make her particularly easy.

optional

almost impossible to react to without needing to memorize patterns = non-skill based

just trial and error

not fun

I skipped her after 2 tries. Fuck that anti-fun Fromslop design. Enjoyed the rest of the game though.

Yeah with a double collosal sword memejump build

Am I imagine things or weapon moveset variety is god awful compared to DS3?

Yes, you are imagining things. ER has more weapon types, more moveset variety within types, and far, far better weapon balance. 3 tards just don't remember how bad it was because you played it when you were 12.

The most disrespectful way to play the game. And also I guess the best way to play because everything else is just pointless masochism.

No
I could if I had amy reason to put an effort into doing so, but I don't hold any emotional attachment to success and don't get any sense of personal achievement while playing video games so I cheese, I use overpowered weapons and sometimes I even abuse bugs to beat games

3 tards just don't remember how bad it was because you played it when you were 12.

What?

Singular

Call me retard, but doesnt it matter anyway since you use blue bar for magics?

yeah, you're overthinking it. you can respec very easily once you beat rennala. choose a build, if you hate it, respec.

umm that's every boss in elden ring though

i spammed the multi kick weapon art at her 30 times, with full bleed talismans, bleed infusions, multi hit talisman, weapon art damage talisman.

Yeah I did a playthrough where I set out to solo every boss but I had to whip out the big guns for Malenia and Radagon/EB and I used bleed for Mohg. The rest was a bog standard sword and board build.

almost impossible to react to without needing to memorize patterns = non-skill based

What did he mean by this?

He means boss shpuld be predictable and also shpuld have the big red danger zone circles so he can know where not to stand

He's saying a boss's moves should make enough sense that you get an idea for how to avoid them by SEEING them and REACTING to them instead of having to memorize what will actually work via trial and error.

almost impossible to react to without needing to memorize patterns = non-skill based

aka

well yeah i could have totally beaten her if i would just memorize the moves yuh-uh !1

Fucking cope. Git gud.

I used a guardian's swordspear with giant hunt on it and spammed that to keep her locked down until she died

it's called Gatekeeping, and it's important to the health of the hobby.

SEEING them and REACTING to them instead of having to memorize

Reacting means you can recognize pattern. If there is a opening = you can react. It's a skill .You want to master a sword you need to be trained to know how to react to specific swings. Trial and error = training = skill.

What magics? I didn't use any. Just whipped her ass into the ground.
And it does matter, since you get dual whip moveset with two of those.

gatekeeping who? Elden ring is one of the most sold games ever aspie

It worked so well that Fromsoft forgot everything that made DeS and DaS great and turned every game into anime rollslop

That is incredibly stupid and the reason no one likes you, anon.

feel like replaying Elden Ring

install randomizer

it doesn't work

turns out fog gate rando hasn't been updated in 2 years

clashes with enemy rando that has DLC support for SotE

HUH!? Do people just not give a shit about this game anymore? I can play fucking Dark Souls 1 with fog gate rando but not Elden Ring?

Reacting means you can recognize pattern.

No it doesn't. In demon's souls and dark souls 1 you didn't need to know the pattern of their attacks. You just needed to know when to dodge and which way to capitalize on that.
If you have to learn a pattern, that means the game expects you to die multiple times until you learn how to avoid damage for every specific attack. It's trial and error.

I've been mad for years about their drastic change in game design approach. Duskbloods is the final nail in the coffin fuck miyazaki

I couldn't beat her with magic and I missed Rivers of Blood so I used some kind of big hammer or something.

I poked her with great epee while blocking
problem?

giantsflame isn't magic, it's flame

gatekeeping who?

fags who cry about difficulty. hence 'git gud'

Biggest cope I've seen in a while. Just admit that you suck and carry on. Jesus Christ.

I really hope all those bosses Anon Babble and anons talk/seethe about for years are truly hard as legends say. I cleared everything before Altus Plateau (except for Radahn yet) without summons n shiet. Trying my hardest to not overlevel, keep my weapon upgrades in check (not higher than +8-10) and to not use blatantly overpowered things (dropped Square Off AoW because it's 1000% broken as fuck). So far everything is just EZ clap tier. Nothing even comes close to Sekiro bullshit.

Dunno, you tell me. Did I beat her?
youtube.com/watch?v=Q4nNhTgyrQs

for all the wank it gets bloodborne is what caused this
r1 spam rollslop

Reported your channel for child porn. Enjoy your ban.

There's a reason older souls games are held in higher regard.
Although Elden Ring is visually fucking gorgeous, that can't be denied.

In demon's souls and dark souls 1 you didn't need to know the pattern of their attacks.

But this is wrong. DeS and DS1 are just primitive compared to later From games.

It's trial and error.

That's literally learning the skill.

That fact does absolutely nothing to change the fact that you got filtered. Keep coping, my dude.

It already started in ds1 dlc with artorias and bandais marketing campaign. Never even got to see fromsofts true potential before it was over

Great pepe with the lunge ash of war completely negates makes a mokery of her.

artorias wasnt even that bad atleast he stopped every 20 seconds to be a pinata
that buff move was only detrimental to him unless you were using a +0 rapier or something

Yeah. 2hand weapon art spam like god intended.

Also DESU summons kind of a crutch against her since she just regens health off the retard AI like crazy.

fromsissies still pretending their games are difficult

set all stats to lock at 80 instead of 40

but also give every single boss 40% resistances to all damage types

whats the fucking point?

I didn't use magic because it wouldn't fit with the character I was roleplaying as.

Sounds like you need to git gud, shitter

Filtered implies I couldn't beat something, and you replied to a screenshot from a place that can only be accessed after beating everything. You're the one coping.

desu I found the Sanctuary Guardians to be much more in line with newer Fromsoft games than Artorias

I didn't say anything about it being hard, I just laughed at the other anon getting filtered by it.
Did you quote a wrong message or is your coping getting to a level that's causing you brain damage?

why the fuck is this bitch trying to kill me

Git gud fag

a boss that flinches to pretty much any melee attack

some nobody got famous for killing her a bunch of times with the most metagoblin build possible

What's the issue with rolling? When entire soulsborne genre was new the "rolling/dashing" was something new and hard. It's like old MMOs that were designed to be played with one hand according to EQ dev. Now to increase the difficulty bosses have complex strings, delayed attacks etc. What do you want instead?

Oh yeah I love the guy, but it's like every boss that came after artorias needed to one up him in combo complexity, delays, phases and whatever else. consort radahn is the culmen of overly designed adhd niggas with a sword

After struggling for a couple hours I put this song on repeat - youtube.com/watch?v=zNopjZuLrvs and beat her within 35 mins, it was cool. I've never been into emo shit either.

DaS and especially DeS are trivial baby games and it is good that From demands more from the player now

can only be accessed after beating everything.

You do not need to beat everything to get to the end of the DLC. What the fuck are you talking about?

monster hunter is probably the only series to surpass souls games in terms of ruining the slow methodical combat for SPEED SPEED SPEED DODGE DODGE DODGE PARRY ATTACK SPAM

I went gyat for gyat with her using nothing but a hand axe.

blocks your path

There's a reason older souls games are held in higher regard.

They actually aren't. Elden Ring is bigger than Dark Souls and deserves it

ok boomer

ruining the slow methodical combat

You can always play dogshit PS2 titles.

god forbid your two ton greatsword takes longer than .5 seconds to swing
websling your wirebug to reddit faggot

I unironically got to her once, summoned some guy callled "let me solo her", let them solo her, got the achievement and never went back

God forbid you get invaded by a red man that can roll your hypertelegraphed attacks.
God forbid he baits you to attack and opens you for a punish.

I cheesed her with that fire weapon art that poise broke enemies in 2 hits

no I didn't say it was hard, I'm just implying it, unlike me. I'm just that good XD

It's pretty easy though, you fromsissies surely are deranged.

no ones talking about pvp froms netcode is shit
have fun getting rapier stabbed from 10 ft away

Yeah. Critdraw GS is GIGABRAIN gameplay. So hard. So impactful.

nothing new about iframe buttons but that's not the issue. Dodging endless waves of attacks just to get a chance to get a single r1 in is just boring. Sekiro at least allows you be offensive while defending. There's nothing interesting about souls combat to put that much attention into it while leaving aside the worldbuilding and level design. Any random character action game has bosses just as well designed while giving the player way more than two options to express your own play style

unironically i'd rather just have inaccessible areas that look interesting/pretty rather than another copypaste dungeon with the same imps and another buffed normal enemy boss

You can parry, use shield and spells in ER. Random character action game is either combo wombo crazy or linear NG.

yes

I beat her with just the magma whip candlestick the other day

nice jump attack build!

I beat her RL 1 with powerstanced fire longswords

Yes. Actually I ended up liking her fight by the time I beat her. It's just that she has knowledge checks that are hard to figure out without internet help.

"i want slow slop" is a pve only shitter

Not surprised

yet somehow it works here
how about you get good?

I love when someone posts something really fucking stupid and just gets absolutely shit on.

using summons

visiting sites of grace

using runes to level up

upgrading weapons

using torrent

using somber weapons

not playing blindfolded

wearing armor

looking at the map

you didn't beat the game

if you played the game, you didnt beat the game, simple as that

I completely missed this area on my first playthrough, and I dont play the same game twice (if its a singleplayer story like this) after beating it. So no I didnt beat her.

There is no valid criticism of Malenia.

I used the italian method

And that includes waterfowl.

Yes there is. She can randomly cancel out of a stagger and into an attack. She breaks a rule of a game in a way that can guarantee you take damage because of being animation locked while she gets to cancel out of her animation lock with a quick attack.

1. She should not have hyper armor on random arbitrary moves, including her side step
2. Her shadow clone move should not come with a cyclone of bullshit that will destroy you frame one if she happens to use the move while you're standing next to you
3. Her heal should not trigger if you full block her attack
4. You should be able to knock Malenia out of waterfall with less than a frost/bleed proc

No.

Wrong
Git gud

No, I don't change my build throughout first playthrough
Big sword and big shield

I laughed at my buddy because he cheesed the boss by dropping the shield and two handing
Fucking loser lmao

Oh you didn't kill Gorgo the Unpunished without utilizing many key elements of the gameplay that were put there by the developers with the expectation of being used?

Well I guess you're JUST going to have to cope and seethe and mald and dilate over the fact that you never TRULY won *le sigh*

Rollslop trannies deserve to feel the sensation of a rope tightening around their necks.

The next From game will just have a "boss skip" button, and retards will defend using it as "just one of the mechanics in the game" on par with beating the boss legit.
You may have beaten the boss using spirit ashes, but you are simply not on the same level as someone who didn't use them.

Wrong

So you don't know how she works. In phase 1 she can cancel out of stagger with a sidestep. This is retarded but not egregiously so. In phase two she can cancel out of stagger with an offensive attack which makes it so that you realistically can not use any attack with more commitment than this attack otherwise you are at risk of taking unavoidable damage. Concession accepted, thanks for making this easy.

Wrong

Welp, someone post the video and prove this retard wrong.

I hope From will add deflect mechanic to the core combat in their next ER-like big game. It's possible to bind it on R1+L1.

Yes, I had fast roll, the easy mode of Souls games

Elden Ring was designed with these mechanics in mind, that's why the game can be as hard, or as easy as you want it to be.

with a sword because i dont find this bottom tier trash design as attractive as my wife Ranni or melina the emotional pillow

bosses in video games don't follow player's rules

What's the issue?

The problem is Malenia breaks the rules that all other bosses have established, makes for a weird fight where you can't really pinpoint what's going wrong.

retard

When it leads to the player taking unavoidable, non-scripted damage it's objectively bad game design.

In phase 1 she can cancel out of stagger with a sidestep.

A mechanic carried out from Friede, which is not a direct attack, and only filters the retards that mash attacks
Git gud, shitter

What rules?
I can no-hit her just fine. You are trash

"G-Git gud, shitter"

translation: "im a retard and have no retort"

Thanks for the laugh, faggot. Kill yourself.

Yeah? It wasn't that hard I beat her at 98 without full flasks just using powerstanced greatswords.
She is nowhere near as hard as people even on launch said, the only problem is waterfowl and once you figure that out its super easy to punish her
Radahn pre-patch is way fucking worse but that is a direct response to the shitters than infest the game so I don't care and I still beat him clean.

fallacy

Concession accepted.

using summons on her is actually counterintuitive because she can siphon health from hitting them. Instead I just decided to give her a taste of her own medicine by using the Blasphemous Blade

bad game design

Common practice in games with random or roguelikes. If your entire strategy crumbles after getting hit by unavoidable random damage it's bad strategy. In this case if you die to such attack you're already playing bad. Why would you put yourself on offence if you're on low HP? It's a skill check.

A mechanic carried out from Friede, which is not a direct attack, and only filters the retards that mash attacks

Objectively wrong. In phase one it's not a direct attack. In phase 2 she can cancel stagger into an attack. Concession accepted, retard.

im a retard

I'm not the one too stupid to understand how counters work, quit projecting

How many times do we have to have this fuckin thread? Yes, she is extremely annoying to fight, that's the reason there's always threads dedicating to strictly her alone. If you beat her, you beat her, end of story.

projecting

Counters are not what I'm talking about, you fucking retard

fallacy

Concession accepted.

I'm gonna be 100 with you senpai.
I beat like two bosses and put the game down because it's dogshit.

I did, I was level 220 after the DLC but I did solo her without magic, shield, or summons.

counters

nobody mention counters idiot

Ad hominem is fallacy too.

In phase 2 she can cancel stagger into an attack.

False

Yes you did, you are complaining Malenia counters retarded r1 spammers like you by dodging

Ah yes, the autistic mattewmatosis way of playing video games - Consciously don't use half the features of the game for some stupid reason.

I think you robbed yourself, legit GOTD.

I beat her with a UGS and a greatshield solo on my second playthrough.
Wouldn't using a shield arguably make her harder since she fucking HEALS off of block hits though? I was just stubborn and liked using a shield every now and then.

ad hominem

You don't know what ad hominem is. Try again retard.

nah, I refunded the game because the camera kept autocorrecting to the horizon which annoys the fuck out of me because if I wanna look at the ground while moving I should be able to

False

You are objectively wrong. Concession accepted.

The RTBs magic skill can stagger

Well, noting that down, what was the build and level?

another fallacy

Concession accepted. I'm done with (You).

he doesn't know the difference between name calling and ad hominem

Concession accepted. Thanks for knowing your place and kneeling. Makes this easier.

Nah fuck that shit, I stunlocked her against the wall with my mimic tear. Elden Ring bosses don't deserve respect.

I don't remember the talismans but it had 60 Intelligence and 16 Faith, using only the moon skill, with Strength
Git gid

No wait, right I had it respec to an hybrid with 40 faith and Int to use howl of shabriri and golden vow, with dexterity as main stat, around 150 RL

Alexander shard, Millicent prosthetic, Axe talisman and Rotten Wing insignia as Talismans

I don't see why you'd spend time and money on an action game if you're just going to watch the AI diddle itself with summons

Much obliged anon

Git gid

Concession accepted.

If you used healing potions even once you didn't really beat her

Malenia is for the streets

I beat every boss solo but after the fire giant I was burned out and scummed everything with summons to get it over with