Need atleast 3 turns to set up and execute her skill combo

Need atleast 3 turns to set up and execute her skill combo

Even with the Frenchman acting as AP battery, she still needs 2 turns

The result of the combo is mediocre

Meanwhile, the Chinese can cast lightning dance and do more damage and more stun in one turn

Even the masked They/them is more useful, and nobody count that retard's simon says wheel

Who designed this bitch's gameplay?

useless.jpg - 768x432, 40.53K

nigga use her as support
in fact just use her for the double damage skill on both of your other members with cheater picto and it's gg

Even the masked They/them is more useful, and nobody count that retard's simon says wheel

Monoco is male though faggot
As proved canon in the french language that isn't gender neutral

why is she so ugly hot, bros? what's this phenomenon called

1351351.jpg - 512x468, 22.33K

skill issue

what's this phenomenon called

low standards

I just got to old lumiere and picked up the scythe that uses foretells to power up gun attacks. Gonna build her for gun mode. Is this a sick plan? Yes/yes?

She's fine

sciel1.webm - 1920x1080, 2.97M

If you check out the demo trailer they made for finding people on Reddit streamable.com/fxo6p1
You'll see that Maelle is in the game but she uses a scythe instead and some of her moves sound like Sciel's moves
So most likely Sciel's gameplay feels kinda clunky and like she was tacked on because all they did was give her Maelle's old combat concept

Languages with actual grammatical gender use male as the default even when neutral, amerikun.

Yeah player, you should try to get into pink stance with this Le Goblinelette

Oops, we only put 2 skills that can go into pink stance in her skills tree

And if you didn't pick her to fight in story quest arena, you will have to wait till level 60 to get a sword that start her in pink

?????

mallee.jpg - 1024x576, 132.6K

Doubly so French which has no neuter pronoun.

If they wanted to make him neutral they would have used the woketard 'inclusive language' which is a thing in france
they didn't so he is male, comprendo retard-san?

She is the best until late game when you get stronger weapons and pictos

Pink stance is busted so it's more rewarding having to set up the pink stance proc. She'll still hit the damage cap before anyone else.

apply burn with someone(or try to rng it with her gun). then go into virtuous mode. honestly, in act 2 you don't even need virtuous mode to start hitting for 9,999 anyway.

I don't know, she plays just fine.
She's both the best support and can dish out retarded amounts of damage (of course, she's not Maelle).
Her instant max foretell weapon streamlines her kit a lot.

Actually, the meme should be they made her gimmick stances, but made one stance 1000 times better than the other two, making 90% of her skills superfluous.

I gave up trying to use her as dps but she's the most broken support character, her buffs and act again skills are ridiculous

Is there actually any point to monoco apart from having him apply shields or use him as an ape that buffs on death

Pink stance is busted so it's more rewarding having to set up the pink stance proc.

The game provides you a sword that let you start in pink at level 20 by chance, or reading tips online beforehand

huh?

What about the one that points you into that stance after a counter attack? You get that one pretty early I'm sure.

I'm still pretty early in the game but I like the big dark sword attack that reduces his HP to 10% because it procs all the danger mode power ups instantly.

Just use passives and the right weapon.

He has a weapon that gives +1 AP on using an enhanced skill.
For that alone, I used him a lot, especially since he has one

costs 0 and you act again on magician mask

skill.

Obese or "american" as they say in Paris

cow.webm - 720x780, 3.84M

Yeah I think sciel and monoco are in my back row permanently.

Just use the scythe that gives her an extra turn when she hits twilight

whats this phenomenom called

medium ugly

Shes fit and has beautiful eyes but looks like a gypsy kinda so there you have it

I find her hot, her personality elevates her far above Lune from me.

I agree. While both are pretty, Lune's lack of personality and voice really make her unappealing to me.

While both are pretty

Sciel has her angles, but they fucked up her facial animations and it looks uncanny when she smiles

I feel that way about all the girls in the game. You'll never have perfect expressions with realistic faces, and they'll always look weird in the wrong lighting or maybe a smile that just looks incorrect.

Some expressions in the game just look wrong/vacant at times but that's probably due to actual budget constraints.

It's the eye/eye area animation that sucks the most. Theres way too much bug eye going on in this game.

I haven't noticed that on others much. but maybe that's because Sciel smiles a lot

Why does she run like that?

Lune's lack of personality

She is the no nonsense workaholic by the book straight man of the group.

Fat. Fat people can't run properly due to all the excess weight

nigga just use her all set and fortune fury to your dps

That earthquake move hits for 9,999 like 4 times in act 2, it applies powerful to the entire group as well if you have the heavy mask. Monoco rocks early on.

With the exception of one skill that I use for shield niggas I use Monoco as my AoE guy. He's got an AoE that marks all enemies, an AoE that gives everyone powerful, an AoE that heals your allies, an AoE break attack, etc. etc.

what are real post-game optional real dungeons?
I have been flying all over the overworld and everything is either 1 monster deadends or music record screens

Actual postgame is the flying mansion and the tower.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>clea

I prefer Sciel, but have romanced Lune because I refuse to cuck my boy Pierre

Do people seriously play with Monoco & Sciel?

French Lune has a normal voice.

She's a support you absolute retard. Did you omit her "give AP and act immediately" skill on purpose? Her skill that gives all buffs? Her skill that gives double damage?
maybe her butt hurts?

uh yeah?
what kind of soulless golem doesn't level up all the characters?

I used Monoco for most of the game(because I wanted to farm him skills and was too lazy to swap him out). He's very strong. Sciel didn't seem very fun to use so I never touched her.

Yeah, they are actually more fun than

elemental trick>genesis on repeat

VIRTUOSO VIRTUOSO VIRTUOSO PLS IGNORE MY ACTUAL MECHANICS

so like, lune just instantly pops by getting free stains
verso will get to A-S rank and then do million damage every round
maelle pink mode is kinda stupid
sciel is just too ... normal, like she makes sense until you get to the end of act 2

Bruh you must suck at the game. She does the biggest hits by far

Stack up 10+ [this deals about 5k damage on it's own]

Hit the multi-hit attack during the attack buff phase

EZ 25k damage from a bunch of crits for 3-4k damage

This.

Sciel can greater rush and greater powerful the entire party in one turn. That's what she's good for. It's like you mongoloids don't want 12 turns for each Simon turn.

it's called having no options. it's what happens when you have no irl female interaction anon

she's the second best character in the game cause she gives the first best character a second turn and applies greater haste while doing so.

>Meanwhile, the Chinese can cast lightning dance and do more damage and more stun in one turn

Dr pimple popper lune is shit. All she does is damage. Her healing gets beat out by revive/healing tints. She can barely break. Doesn't do nearly as much damage late game or have as much utility as Maelle and the pajeet scammer

I used him as a buffbot that gave AP or a shield breaker from when I got him until I finished the tower. Sciel is probably better, but I enjoy his playstyle and unlocking all the different feet gave him some pretty nice variety.

I started rushing/slowing because I was getting really tired of enemies getting 3-4 times before my party could act.

well against Simon, you're running auto rush but yeah... you just open up the fight and hit that nigga with something and apply slow. then you with your cheater turn, use intervention and OHKO his ass with maelle. that's how i did it

Noone talking about Monoco's bell

Big bell.

Big bell stunlocks everyone. Everything in the game. You just use the big bell and the enemies don't get a turn. You can stunlock Simon.

3-4k

So you're not at act 3 yet, and that's where the problem lies.
Once the 9999 damage cap is removed Sciel's damage falls off very hard. Just look at the .webm that posted where her highest damage done was 3.2 mil. That sounds pretty impressive until you learn that its a relatively small fraction on a boss' health bar and that there are better alternatives. Take everyones favorite OP retard for example, pre-patch Maelle's stendahl can hit 9 million damage on Creation enemies without virtuouse stance or inverted affinity.

why do people even think dr pimple popper lune is good?

sciel gives your best character a second turn.

lune is a 0 utility damage dealer who deals the third or fourth best damage in the game.

only good at one thing

bottom 50% of the cast at doing it

be lune

shiiii. i didn't know monoco can do that.

verso can do it too. just use the skill that puts you at A rank with 9AP then use the skill that stuns them again if they're already stunned (at A rank)

To be fair, you need to build Monoco a very specific way to be able to do break point spam.

is actually a Top 3 character due to her support skills

Sciel is easily the best pairing with the Maelle and Verso cheese builds, due to her Greater Slow weapon and using Double Damage/Intervention.

Bro your aoe slow, free revive and automatic full party heal every turn?

people hate on Lune

When her revive literally makes it possible to stabilize during intense bossfights

Insane.

Renoir's Drafts

sciel gives your best character a second turn.

?
All my characters have a second turn with cheater

What's a good build to one-shot the merchant there? My Maelle only damages ~half of their HP in 1st turn

Intervention stacks with cheater. If you finish your second turn and Sciel casts intervention on them they get 2 turns again. On a sandbag (because let's face it at that point nothing can survive your favorite damage dealer having 4 turns), you can cast intervention again on Sciel's cheater turn and make it so that your favorite dps character has 6 turns.

And you get 4 turns instead of two, yes.

Anon read the after damage report.

Damn, the few other abilities/weapons giving "a 2nd turn" I tried not stacking with Cheater made me think it was always the case, thanks

It's technically not an extra turn, she just picks up your next turn in the chain and places it next.
That's why it can stack.

she is a gypsy, she fucking uses Tarot Cards.

niggas actually hyping up her dog shit revive like revive tints don't actually do the same thing and don't require 3 stains?

Lunes revive

Costs 5 AP or 3 stains

Requires 4 skill points

Revives ally with 30-70% health

Revives allies with 2 AP

Gives 1 stain back (only positive)

Revive Tint

Costs 0 AP. Almost never run out either (I never did)

Costs 0 skill points

Revives allies with 100% health (if you got the upgrades)

Revives allies with 3 AP (if you have the Revive Tint Energy pictos)

Doesn't require you to run Lune

hmm

Intervention is insane with cheater. Sciel gets two turns with cheater. Then she gives up her second turn to give another character a cheater double turn. So you get 3 turns with intervention.

I grinded the merchant from low 90s to 99 on everyone using Lune's Hell with all the damage passives except Roulette. Trick -> Genesis also works, but takes more button presses.

nah if it says "Play Again" it doesn't stack with cheater. Stuff like intervention and shortcut will actually give you a second turn.

So some chars can get more than the double-turn from cheater. Like if you use Last Stand (I think that's what it's called) on Maelle to get 1 HP to trigger shortcut.

lune's revive pushes your gradient gauge further

Revives allies with 100% health (if you got the upgrades)

Eventually.

Butterface.
“She’d be gorgeous… but her face”

Where's the ugly part?

Maelle with medalum, cheater, both dead energies, and as many damage buffs as you can fit. One-shot the adds first, then the merchant will waste his turn growing, and you can one-shot him.

AoE slow

AoE doesn't matter in this game. You're either wrecking bosses (single target) or killing trash which most characters can do like Verso or Maelle. And if you're killing trash you don't need to slow them.

free revive

Lunes revive

Costs 5 AP or 3 stains

Requires 4 skill points

Revives ally with 30-70% health

Revives allies with 2 AP

Gives 1 stain back (only positive)

Revive Tint

Costs 0 AP. Almost never run out either (I never did)

Costs 0 skill points

Revives allies with 100% health (if you got the upgrades)

Revives allies with 3 AP (if you have the Revive Tint Energy pictos)

Doesn't require you to run Lune

automatic full party heal every turn

First off, at harder areas, you're risking party wipes if you don't avoid most/all damage imo. So healing doesn't matter if your party wipes in a second. Secondly, there's so many good luminas based around not healing. You fell for the heal jew. I didn't use a single heal my entire playthrough and I probably deal twice as much damage because of it.

Confident: Take 50% less damage, but can't be healed. Time spent healing is time spent not DPSing
Inverted Affinity: Apply Inverted on self for 3 turns on battle start. 50% increased damage while Inverted
Tainted: 15% increased damage for each Status Effect on self (combine with above)
Beneficial Contamination: Plus 2 AP on applying a Status Effect. Once per turn. Combine with above
In Media Res: Plus 3 Shield on Battle Start, but max Health is halved (3 shields means you don't need to heal)
Various pictos based on being <50% HP, <30% HP, <10% HP. Various pictos that grant shields (solidifying, shielding death, etc)

Bruh

Gives opinion while still haven't beat the game

pure retardium

Absolute Midwit take Sciel is the hardest hitting character in the game + gives every buff but regen which is worthless anyway after Clea. Not gonna spoonfeed you builds but just know you're braindead if she's not pumping out the most dps

Sciel is the hardest hitting character in the game

objectively wrong
mathematically wrong
empirically wrong
I accept your concession

start clea fight

stack and consume fortell while boss heals

use third tier gradient to hit for more damage than any other character could because it stacks infinitely

Kneel pissant

Retards here only care about 2 turn setups so they think that's the limit.

You have to do that that that and that so this bitch become viable

Meanwhile there are characters that do the same thing but better with 0 set up required

i accept another concession

clea

heals

Stop being bad at the game

True. 0 upgrade revive tint is still better or just as good

Just blow a ton of AP/stains and a skill slot for gradient gauge.

You're still wasting AP though. And the only time you'd consider wasting AP for gradient to be good is endgame where Lune has already fallen off a cliff.

In Act 2 she damage caps stanceless. By act 3 you have gradient gen pictos where you can use a gradient attack to get into pink stance for free. Medalum is a mid weapon that was only good because of s bug.

Monoco is king of Act 2

Need atleast 3 turns to set up and execute her skill combo

what?

use the weapon that starts you in virtuoso stance

use the skill that keeps you in virtuoso stance

use sciel's baton pass to do it again

then next turn use the 9ap skill

50k damage per hit, 3 hits per skill use and 5 on the big skill

Keep dragging that goalpost across your musty basement floor nigger I said she did the most damage and she does you can't handle reality.
Obviously it's on purpose you double nigger read the post

posted where her highest damage done was 3.2 mil

It's 3.2 million per hit. It hits all enemies 3 times. But yes, Stendahl or gommage does 100x more single target damage.

Nobody cares about multi turn set ups when the fight was over 5 turns ago from a single round.

If it's on purpose then you're admitting to intentionally playing the game badly in order to set up a substandard character when every other character could solo Clea faster.

It's 3.2 million per hit. It hits all enemies 3 times

It's not. It's just 3.2 million across all targets for that specific attack. If it were 3.2 million per hit the Damage Dealt field would be much higher than 5.6m, because that's the entire damage your group does for the whole fight.

weh

file.png - 1902x980, 1.77M

This game has too many skills in the trees. I have no idea what is good and bad for any character

The mod that actually shows numerical values for skill damage and multipliers should be mandatory, I'm tired of games that hide everything behind vague shit and then make everything inconsistent so one character's "high damage" is worse than another's "medium damage."

I mean, there's characters that hit harder anon.

You have so many recoats eventually it doesn't really matter.

This, and when you get access to Renoir's depths the mobs there drop lumina and recoats.

Sciel is the most broken character in the game lmao
She has high damage potential and is broken support with intervention and fortune fury

My lune was doing 1m with Hell every turn, plus extra ice damage and heal as an automatic action. Idk I tried using sciel as a replacement but she just didn’t feel as good.

pre-patch Maelle's stendahl

Did they patch it? Tuned it down a bit or something?

Damage reduced 40%

I like the idea but yeah unless you are fighting bosses, everything is dead before she gets any decent set up.

The intention is to do the highest damage hit, which is done by Sciel no ifs ands or buts you indianiggers just don't know how to accept defeat

he lets Clea heal

Scrub

flying mansion

tfw I find it after doing most stuff cause I missed it in the sky

Let's pretend that I agree to Sciel being "the hardest hitting character", the problem with your assessment is that by the time Sciel's done setting up to hit hard every other character has already killed the enemy 5 times over.

Cumming on Sciel's tummy from a Lune footjob.

So there's this couple having sex during the prologue and Sophie will comment on it when you click on the door, probably everyone knows that.

BUT. If you click on the door 33 times they will tell you to please leave and give you a bonus item. This game has too much soul.
youtube.com/watch?v=YNa-4MpV5ko

Lune has dark Stains but they’re a pain in the ass to get.

She would be a beast if she could get those I can barely get 2 of them

IMG_5601.png - 1003x813, 669.16K

Nice, it was only way too over top

You forgot Renoir's Depths The place pretty much only exists for four reasons

a place to access le ebin dark souls boss complete with legally distinct moonlight greatsword

a place to grind your ass to 99

a place to farm lumina points

a place to grind all your weapons to lvl 32

Moving the goalpost the discussion is about who does damage not who kills the fastest, if you wanna be specific then you'd have to check frame data pick a specific boss and find the character that does the most damage with the least animations. Sciel is at the front for me because her 3 hit dark wave is the shortest and hardest hitting AoE combo for clearing trash I could find

he does constantly swap them because they are all fun

I swear Lune's not not using stains properly in all cases unless I don't understand. the light stains are supposed to be usable by anything, right?
So why when I use Hell, with a lightning stain, an ice stain, and a light stain to fill in for the Earth Stain does it not absorb any of them and not do any extra damage?

No, It's not a goalpost moved at all. Your argument starts off with

you're braindead if she's not pumping out the most dps

She can't pump any dps if everyone else has already killed the enemy.

So I'm in the end game and still haven't used Sciel much at all as I don't really understand her gimmick, I just click whichever skills turn yellow lmao

I might play as her in the tower (and unlock the foretell stack achievement), just tell me what 6 skills to pick and how do I set up the combo.

EXTREMELY homosexual.

That's literally her only good hairstyle, others are just too goofy

Most people just use her as support. If you want damage out of her then you just need to first use skills that apply foretell stacks to enemies and then use skills that consume foretell stacks for extra damage.

I like her default one.

It must be hard living as a Woman. My deepest condolences to them.
files.catbox.moe/63wlnm.webm

you setup twilight by depending on lenght of fight using a lot of skills of one type (sun or moon) then 1 of the other type. this twilight state has a bonus that depends on how many stacks you had, so you might decide to trigger it later so the bonus is larger

once you're in the twilight you wanna use the first turn to setup foretell and the next to consume them, or better use double turn setups to do it all at once

this is obviously a lot of setup, and it doesnt payoff until you realize she has lots of skills that do 6+ hits, but when it works it's acceptable

or you just give everyone a bunch of ap and double damage

well instead of arguing about which character you like more, what setups did people use for simon, hes the last thing I have left and once I hit phase 2 I got my ass whopped

I like that hair, what one is that

They didn’t do a good job explaining the more sun or moons charges you stack the bigger the damage in twilight.

Theoretically she could the most damage if she was allowed to keep on stacking.

IMG_5355.gif - 498x498, 363.21K

father... is it over?

Untitled.png - 1920x1080, 3.35M

I kept the beret on her, it fit her more than the other characters.

Just tell me which 6 skills to pick, her tree is massive, she's level 80 atm. And what weapon, Chation?

Figure it out yourself bitch

How do you do, fellow gamers?

This is objectively the best hair for her

IMG_5603.png - 200x200, 23.14K

The beret gives her a gaudy lipstick.

I would've helped you with Verso/Lune/Maelle if you had asked. Stop being like Francois, he's all whoo and no whee.

once you're in the twilight you wanna use the first turn to setup foretell

You gain foretell stacks on free aim though, you don't need to use up the turn building them up. I think it's something like 4 foretell per shot or something like that.

Obscur Maelle vs. Clair Verso

successful parries 194

damn

I didn't care to learn her random ass spirit attacks and just gommage'd her away once that was up, it did half of her health bar

your builds are really shit btw, we're the same level

I need an UI mod to sort pictos by the point cost of their luminas

inb4 some retard says you can do that

I mean sorting PICTOS by LUMINA cost, not luminas by lumina cost

Definitely the Elden Ring reject boss, big spoilers btw unless you've already completed the post-game:
youtube.com/watch?v=YBMu9n49_S0

The lyrics are just Renoir and Alice arguing, Renoir telling her to put down the brush while she refuses, both mourning Verso

maelle got eaten who was my main damage dealer and i'm still using dualiso on verso even though i probably need to move on from it. it would've probably been faster to just restart and let verso get eaten instead but this was satisying in it's own way

I don't really get why people jerked this fight off so much.

boss attacks at light speed

Even the masked They/them

Are you seriously suggesting the fucking living paintbrush/artist's poseable modelling doll is a tranny?
Are you that fucking brainrotted?

Because Renoir is a big antagonist with a massive spectacle of a fight with bombastic music. Double points as I ended the fight with Maelle using Gustave's move.

The OST.
It's an asbolute masterpiece of a song.

Her damage is insane though, I pretty much beat the paintress with her alone. You can almost skip the setup with her gradient attack.

Okay, I mean that's fair, the song is good and memorable, I wasn't sure if there was more to it though.

Bet you only found him in the post-game and one shotted him?
I did him as early as possible, the weapon Lune gets from that fight is OP af.

nah man i sweeped the continent good like a wholesome janitor that gets paid below minimum wage

Speaking of hard bosses. I fought the BOTW dragon today, and yeah its moves are mostly very fair (aka very easy to parry), EXCEPT for the explosion. I just couldn't figure out the timing and it wipes the whole party. I wiped 4-5 times, then the next time it just didn't use the attack and we won. A bit lame, as I actually wanted to learn the timing, but oh well, next playthrough I guess.

Ambient OST are generally better than fight OST in this game. And lesser mob fight themes are generally as good as bossones, frankly boss OST are roughly at the level of average Fromsoft game,which is still a high quality mind you, the rest is just that much higher..

And I certainly do love Alice Duport-Percier, I've gone seen her at Grissini project concerts a couple times, but she's definitely over used in this game's soundtrack, a bit more variety could have helped. Like how Nier Automata improved on Replicant by hiring other singers than emi evans you know.

the weapon Lune gets from that fight is OP af.

Explain I never pull it off

They are useless because they take up a stain slot and so make it impossible to power up her spells. The damage bonus for a dark stain is nowhere near as much as just getting normal stain combinations and powering up spells like usual, like I remember having to switch off the weapon that gives dark stains because Lightning Dance was doing half the damage of its empowered version with 2-3 dark stains.

I found him in act 2 and it seems I was adequately leveled for him, had a long, back and forth fight with him. He must be cut content right? His intro cutscene has Verso and Sciel in prominence, so it must be her relationship quest but something got changed.

It just has very good scaling and outdamages her other weapons by a large margin at that point in the game plus the dark stains allow you to deal bonus damage sometimes, so that's cool too.

It's just a bonus area like Yellow Harvest in act 1, that area also had unique enemies and assets.

High scaling on Vit and Agi

If it doesn't scale off agi and luck then it's worthless
Just don't get hit, simple as

I'm playing a turn by turn game, not sekiro.

oh that's a nice song I wonder what it's about

google lyrics

it's all just spoilers being fed to you in french

I'm in the Monolith. How the fuck do we go from doing 9999 damage max per hit to 1.5 mil. Gustave would never have allowed this retardation.

>Need atleast 3 turns to set up and execute her skill combo

You don't need to enter Twilight every single round. Like if you stack up 20 moon or sun stacks before entering twilight, you'll have like +600% damage. 10 stacks for +300%. Or 5 stacks for +150%.
And with moves or other effects that allows you to act twice in a turn, you can rake up stacks fast. Especially with weapons that give you double stacks.

Your 9999 damage is already likely 10s if not 100s of thousands of damage by that point.

Inside the monolith takes approximately forever and the pacing of it has so far been the dramatic lowpoint of the game. But it's after that.

The game caps damage at 9999, and act 3 gives you a picto to remove that cap.

Sciel is a god-tier support. Maelle and Verso already shit out damage; Sciel makes them hit harder and gives them more turns.

The lore reason you defeat the paintress and Maelle becomes a new paintress, the picto is literally called painted power

Realism.

Gustave isn't even fucking real lmao he can't do shit

She's the best support in the game, passively gives you full buffs and AP every turn from one ice tornado cast. You can do whatever with her after that as long as the tornado is active

Monoco is actually really good.
He's also based and funny so there's also that.

using Kralim

you didn't beat the game btw

I romanced no one because I didn't trust Verso and Lune felt really good with Gustav. One of the biggest missed opportunities I think.

Monoco's Dualliste and Sakapatate Fire are very strong, he's also good for a cheap slow on bosses that move a bit too fast like Simon. Going from being hit every other turn to lapping him 3 times makes a pretty big difference. Especially if you're doing the stunlock strat with Monoco's level 3 gradient

Why is one earth stain so good bros

I "romanced" both because it was obvious both were treating him as a quick booty call entirely for their own benefit and didn't care about anything serious, which was hilariously fitting for him.

sciel has a similar problem as verso where one weapon is blatantly way better then everything else, for her its the one where all sun skills that target enemies automatically give 10 fortell. this includes the one that normally spreads 1 guys fortell to the whole crowd and gives you a second turn so you just get 10 (20 in twlight) cards on everyone for free and instantly take a second turn and either burn the cards for instant max 9 AP + hella damage dark wave or enable someone else to do something retarded with her double damage/automatic 2nd turn skill

monoco is cool for giving people shields and if this was a 4 niggas in a row game he would be in my party 100% of the time but ironically its lune who needs all the setup because she has no good way to get several turns in a row while also keeping her AP up

47 minutes?? at level 85?? I beat her in under 5 minutes at level ~80, just build hypercarry free aim into follow up build, fun and chunks like a motherfucker.

What's so strong with Kralim?

So I fought the boss at the bottom of the abyss. Webm related.
And... what the FUCK happened? I did a bunch of attempts, but after getting my ass kicked a bunch I restructured my luminas to remove almost all the defensive ones. And in the end I had so much gradient that I simply didn't see a reason not to do Maelle's Gommage skill. Even though I normally saved the gradient for Verso's assault&resurrect buff. But why the fuck did the skill fucking delete Simon? He shouldn't be a cited "weak" enemy, so how did I do 67M damage?
What the fuck? It even straight up skipped the third phase that I had only gotten to a few times before.

I'm genuinely considering reloading. What the fuck was this? Give me back my boss battle!

1747176993.webm - 1280x720, 3.86M

Oops, we only put 2 skills that can go into pink stance in her skills tree

if you write in the journal you get a third one, plus her one limit break puts you in it for free while giving you a second turn like all limits do

Sophie is dead. Move on and embrace the girl that was actually there for him when he needed someone.

You have to let go mon ami.

hahah shit maybe I should go for Maelle/Sciel/Verso instead of Monoco/Sciel/Verso,
what are the best Maelle weapons?

This isn't a glitch, gommage can skip 3rd phase

Read the skill. Weak enemies are eliminated outright, otherwise you do shitloads of extreme void damage and she was also in Virtuouse stance.

Or one shot her in 10 seconds

Gives 2 random stains each turn, match them then Genesis. Also each subsequent cast is 20% stronger provided you switch elements each time. It's great if you're rotating through 3-4 spells each fight.

doesn't get a side quest at max friendship level

This just felt weird

Gustave would never racemix

for those who come after.

Jarum is better than Medalum anyway. Medalum is only better on trash mobs that you intend to clear with one AoE.
Jarum actually gives you free Virtuous after every counter attack, while Medalum just starts you with it. Once. Otherwise Medalum is just pretty nifty if your other two team members are running full on burn builds with burn focused weapons. But even then, Brulerum is easily and by far the better burn weapon compared to Medalum.
Also. You don't need to be level 60 to beat Golgra. You just need luck/agility and or a decent speed picto, and then spam sword ballet or something every turn after Golgra gives you max AP with her attacks.

And if you didn't pick her to fight in story quest arena, you will have to wait till level 60 to get a sword that start her in pink

huh what sword and how can I get it later?

I had medalum since the arena but I still used glasium the whole game

do the second half of act with Monoco and Sciel because they were collecting

Act 3

ok let's go back to the others

mfw Lune fucking sucks compared to monoco and sciel

help

Are literally none of you running Sciel with Chation? Use Card Weaver to apply 10 stacks to all enemies and get another turn on which you use Dark Wave. Kills most trash mobs in your opening turn.
Monoco is godlike with Nusaro. Just make sure you have an affordable skill of every color that gives extra damage on upgrade. If you don't have a good agile skill, just use Abbest for the extra turn.
The combined damage boost from mask upgrade and Nusaro let's him deal massive damage with brainless unga spam.

ugly hot

you are incredibly homosexual

sciel last unlockable swimsuit costume

Click.png - 600x600, 229.78K

Un-nerfed Stendahl was a 25x base damage multiplier. Gommage is a 50x multiplier. That's why you deleted him.

calling a woman hot is gay now

Lune is honorary white

ugly hot

I believe that translates to "mid" in zoomer parlance. Calling her "mid" might as well be that 0/10 would not bang meme

Why does Lune looks ugly with any other haircut but is a 10/10 goddess with the base one?

shes gorgeous, but the zoomer mind accustomed to gachas cant comprehend anything other than huge eyes paired with pre-pubescent features and ridiculously huge tits as attractive

>elemental trick>genesis on repeat

I'm surprised at how many people just appear to do elemental trick to elemental genesis. Way more people appear to actually just be doing this than I had expected.
Lightning Dance deals so freakishly huge amounts of damage that it's just insane. Provided the enemy doesn't resist lightning. Elemental Genesis is mostly just great for how it's AoE while Lightning Dance is single-target. Lightning Dance gives you 12 hits and with the appropriate stains consumed those hits will all hit fucking hard. And with Storm active, even if Storm is much weaker, you get 12+12 hits. While Elemental Genesis only gives 8+8.
Then there is also the case where Elemental Genesis is likely to hit at least one nullify/absorb or resists, since the enemy is likely to have at least one while you'd have to have an unlucky matchup for it Lightning specifically to not work.

Before Act3 Lightning Dance just seems way, way the fuck superior. but even from Act3 and beyond I still see more of an appeal in Lightning Dance most of the time.
I don't know though. But I'm surprised at how many people just see Elemental Genesis, admittedly rightly assume that it's powerful. But then not even trying out Lightning Dance.
And Terraquake is honestly underrated too. With it you can break bosses like every single round with relative ease.

Jarum sounds awesome but the scaling is really trash, at least according to fextra, one of her bottom swords, pure damage wise.

I think she looks great with bangs, but that's because I just like bangs.

i was actually using that exact build but follow up only ever dealt a million damage because dualiso doesn't scale very well

Man these fuckers are cancer on a solo playthrough (act 2 so damage capped). Orbs shoot forever.

Cheater picto lets you have your double turns without getting cucked by Dualiso's terrible base damage.

For me Genesis is just powerful and reliable. I have 100% crit rate so I always get the 4 stains needed and blast away.

It has an S and an A ranking just like Medalum. And its base stats are only a little bit weaker. Which is certainly made up for by having much better effects.

she's literally perfect with clea's haircut and outfit

I have 100% crit rate so I always get the 4 stains needed and blast away.

100% crit rate also makes Lightning Dance go from 6 hits to 12 hits. And elemental trick gives you the three stains needed to massively boost the power of each and every one of those hits.
You can cycle these skills just like you would with Genesis.

i realised that during the fight and changed my build after

when the fuck do I stop being poor? some merchants have shit that costs like 40k-50k while battles give you like 2k

pretty sure they're bugged or something because I got like 12 parries in a row and the orbs continued to shoot, but if you dodge one time they instantly give up.
I've also had dancers constantly summon backup and nothing happens so I think the whole area is just kinda fucked up

Orbs shoot forever.

If you parry. This is both a blessing a curse.
It means that if you've mastered the parry you can parry them to death before they've passed the turn forward. And if you want some breathing space you just dodge instead of parry and it'll stop shooting.

Dance costs 3 AP while Genesis costs 4, they're used so much because they're extremely efficient. Lightning Dance costs 7. While you shouldn't have much issue with AP, elemental duo means you can focus on other lumina instead.

I got like 700k after clearing out Clea's crib.

Lightning Dance costs 7

6 with Deminerim.
Also the high cost really isn't much of an issue. Especially not late game.

I'm on act 3, is that a post game activity?

Weak enemies are eliminated outright

No I get that. But if it deals 67M damage, then what's the difference?

you can consider any content in act 3 post game I guess, since its all available any time you decide to do it

why is sciel ass so distracting?

Gustav is quite literally one of the reasons that's possible due to his lumina converter.

Either too big or too jiggly

It only does that much if you're stacking damage mult out the ass, which I only ever did when I was going after the superboss. With that being said 50x is a fat multiplier and will probably clear any trash mob unless you're intentionally gimping yourself.

Verso was an immortal jobber getting heemed by Dualliste before the converter

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

how the FUCK did they get away with this?

What weapon for Maelle? I've been using the one that changes you to purple stance on counterattack for like 20 hours

Have sex, incel.

hq720 (1).jpg - 686x386, 37.57K

All clair, no obscur.

this world is too miserable to bring children into, Gustave. We need to break up so you can have your family

Gustave spends the next 10-15 years seething over his oneitis and has no children of his own

???

gambling with freeaim shots with lune treubuchim is addicting. I have so many AP luminas that I can usually get genesis once every 3 turns sometimes even turn 1 lmao.

use card weaver with the 10 foretell weapon

Ride or die for french pussy, my dude was loyal till the end

Maelle's brother figure was dating a girl who looked just like her IRL sister

What did they mean by this?

you're using her wrong. she's a buff bot ideally. mage gook is useless. Maelle deals damage, Verso Breaks. And monoco is wild card, but he can do damage on par with stendahl with the dueliste skill.

I didn't get the arena weapon everyone talks about so I've been liking the one that puts you into offensive stance automatically if you're stanceless (free +1 ap) and lowers the cost of fire skills by 1 ap (and is fire element, so the 1 ap skill to lower defence is 0 ap because "uses weapons element" counts for shit like this)

Consider this.
Gustave wanted children.
Sophie didn't but didn't wish to deny it for Gustave.
So Sophie reluctantly wanted Gustave to move on. But Gustave couldn't. And who knows, maybe he tried. It's kind of implied.

what arena weapon? can you get it later?

can you get it later?

You can.

You are going to love Simon.

Aline is so lazy that everyone she made has the same face as her family

She's a manga artist?

I had originally thought the twist would be that either Verso or painted Renoir was some aged alternate universe version of Gustave right after he died because they look so similar

Same. They definitely tried to imitate one of Persona's worst aspects by using words to rank the damage of skills.

where?

You just have to beat golgra :)

she didn't say that

I can see why they changed the aesthetic. would have been too easy to dismiss such a "gamey" looking character.

I still dismissed Sciel right away.
She was boring to me, never relevant to the plot and all her character growth comes in late act 2/3.

I was half expecting Gustave to be an unaware plant made specifically to look after Alicia

Luck becomes useless in the endgame because you can easily achieve a 100% critical hit rate with Pictos. But if you really want to increase another stat with the pictos, you can still get a high critical hit rate by using Lumina and very little investment on luck.

luck does give some speed too

Yeah, I only found him after I finished the Endless Tower. It's a great area and boss, but I had to avoid using skills so I wouldn't melt him right away.

What I did was favorite the Pictos with 40 point Luminas and then equip people based on crit rate, Pictos level, or those favorited ones. Game could use a lot more filters and sorting options for Pictos and Lumina.

does golgra get more difficult later? cause I'm on act 2 and she has like a million HP

more Negro Oscuro threads

It is what it is.

Buffing is for cucks that can't parry.

Nah, but she does power up at low health.

zamn, do I need to beat her with Maelle? or it can be someone else?

Why is she so pretty bros

If they wanted to make him neutral they would have used the woketard 'inclusive language' which is a thing in france

Nobody sane actually uses that.

the character you beat her with is the one that gets a weapon. you can also beat her to upgrade the level, though in act 3 mats are so easy to come by this is a bit silly to do.

Good catch. So he is not neutral.

are the other character weapons worth it?

is it me or the monolith is a slog?

Trve

meh maelle's is the only really good one.

I have her with the "artist" haircut, she looks good with long flowing hair.

so is roulette a damage boost overall

brainlet1.jpg - 1218x1015, 212.15K

You sure its a light stain and not something else, if it can be empowered then its lit up on the selection screen in battle

over the long term yes it's ~25% gain. But there will be droughts of shit damage too.

It kinda felt the same to me. You are going through all major areas in a condensed way, but they each end up being weaker versions.
I'm pretty sure some sections of the areas are even copied 1 to 1. I recognized the path layouts.

is it possible to miss certain pictos?

Yes. And then you have to wait for NG+. Let me just say if a white nevron asks for suicide, kill it.

maybe the shitty one in the prologue but pretty sure you just find an upgraded version later

is there a picto or something to farm chroma?

qrd on that side quest?

white nevron asks you to choose a weapon, just pick one you're good at dodging. beat him. then he will ask you to kill him when he remembers his purpose. if you don't, he dies anyway and leaves a bit of chroma. if you kill him, you get the auto powerful picto.

No you don’t

is creation void or sakapate fire the highest damage skill for monoco?

i use that weapon that give greater slow/greater rush and the harvest skill to heal everybody.

anon-kun, why do you have to be so retarded?

I let Clea heal on the tricky Nevrons because I never saw them often enough to learn the pattern.

Creation Void if fighting a single target imo.

Yes but it's shit imho. If you won with it you probably didn't need it. If you lost with it you would probably have won without it.

>Need atleast 3 turns to set up and execute her skill combo

Skill issue

fighting Gragant in the Frozen wastes solo with Lune and with damage cap

Get to the last 10% health

Reverts to his first 10% health moveset, blindsiding me and I die like a retard

Holy fuck.

At the ending I went with Verso, why do I feel like a terrible human?

The other ending is much cooler, reload your save and watch it.

so I only did the character side missions and barely explored, is there any interesting extra content? I demolished the boss, the cap remover picto is OP 2bh

why is the game called clair obscur? why a random side boss is called clair obscur?

I have all the characters who is this referencing?

hmmmmmm.jpg - 1920x1080, 400.66K

It's impossible to have all characters at the same time, so it's for the one you're currently missing.

it's a single player game, let people have their fun, poe2 is the other way if you wanna brag about builds

Use her as a double damage buffer, Maelle can fucking rape everything with that

is there an achievement or something for getting all pictos? I had no idea combo attack 2 was even a thing

how do I Lune on act III? she feels meh at this point, not even sure what are her best skill combinations

Anyone else prefer Brulerum over medalum?

IMG_5252.gif - 498x278, 2.82M

Probably because she is stepping over a shitton of jagged rocks

is it normal that golgra one shots you?

The one in the village? She’s an end game boss anon

I have 4k HP and she deals like 6k per hit...

This took a hot minute. Shame about getting hit but it could've been worse. The solo Lune run lives on.

Don’t think of beating her until act3

After that you should be able to tank at least 1 hit if you have any decent amount of health&defence

the masked They/them

Huh? Monoco is male, what are you talking about

I don't like it, tends to fail when I have a character fully set up to burst, costed me a sprong kill at level 40/39, a fully buffed Lune hit 5 weak elemental genesis hits, boss barely survived and then he hit me with a phase 3 sabotage, which is hard to read

I miss Gustave

She has like 40 million HP. So even if you get here attacks down for parry or dodge you still need to be able to do the damage unless you want a long ass battle

IMG_4709.gif - 320x180, 1.99M

She only has like 5 million HP, a moderately geared Maëlle one shots her

Yeah
A few bosses are like that actually, if you start a fight and see that they have like 3 or 4 turns before you just don't bother, especially if you manage a hit and it does 2 pixels off their health bar

yeah I was expecting more of him

There are no they/thems or faggots

Any chance someone has a save right after acquiring Esquie? Steam cloud burned my 11 hour save :(

I just ran triple DPS (Verso, Maelle, Sciel) until Act 3 where I respecced Sciel into full support

What weapons do you guys use for each character? I've just discovered Corpeso on Verso and am struggling to think of anything better than this for him. Those fucking burn stacks are enormous.

The reason why she exist is to apply rush to your entire team so they can play a second or third time.

where do you start the clea side mission?

Monoco is gender neutral in the english version? BAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Kralim on Lune always. For Lightning Dance I think it's BiS

Even the masked They/them is more useful, and nobody count that retard's simon says wheel

shitting on Monoco, who is unquestionably male

not using Joyaro and the void skill or sakapate fire to annihilate enemies

Ignoring Maelle, who is absurdly broken, he's probably the second strongest character.

Painted love

Fuck bros doing big dick damage and killing to fast is filtering me

Just one shot them with Stendhal, like every other boss anon. It's not rocket science.

He does extreme high break damage what are you ralking about, just combine him with verso and everything gets stunned in one turn just make sure to max out speed.

Monoco is gender neutral in the english version?

No, he's a he and OP is a faggot

Retards like you might as well play on Journalist mode.

he's seething because he's too shit to beat a boss I literally killed in a single attack!

Stay bad. I bet you haven't killed Simon either, shitter.

what if my stendhal doesn't do enough damage?

Retard. You're the one trivializing the game because you're too afraid of a challenge. I'm not even that anon.

It's called the ugly photorealism slop graphics

I'm just incredibly annoyed that the actual best choice, unironically and not because of me being an edgy pedo, is Maelle.
Her petite slim body with a toned ass, tomboyish personality, beautiful red ponytail, the most wholesome relationship with Gustave...
It's like, why the hell can't I fuck her? If you truly MUST, the studio should have aged her up to 18, but even as 16 it wouldn't be an issue to at least develop a romance like the Persona games do (in P5 you're 16 and can romance your teacher or the hot goth doctor, as long as there's no sex scenes you can depict these relationships).

Mental illness.

Who would romance her? I could understand adding another male character, maybe an 18 or 19 year old boy instead of sciel or lune, but your only options are Gustave, her adoptive brother twice her age with oneitis syndrome, or Verso, her actual brother

still seething

KWAB. I, using my superior intellect and gamer skills, built Maelle in such a way that she does retard damage for the first turn. You seem atrocious at the game so maybe you should lower the difficulty or use cheat engine?

can you farm lumina points?

yes but it takes a while. clair obscur mini boss in the monolith drops 5 each time

the one located where you fight act 2 final boss? does it respawn?

Lumina points drop from mobs in Renoir's depths too.

Nope. The one before that, it's in the lumiere section of the city, respawns every save point. The chromatic bosses do not respawn

nta
The flag is called top of the monolith or similar.
Backtrack 30 seconds and it also respawns.
You can also farm the gestral merchant in Renoir's Draft.

I'm only halfway through the game so I won't stay in the thread long as I don't want to be spoiled, but I HAD to correct OP as he is a brainless mongoloid retard.

When I got Sciel in my party my damage output went up 200%. Maybe OP isn't building her right or something? I saw her as a "crit machine" she has one move that does 200% damage for each foretell she absorbs, and it hits SIX TIMES. I've just gone with straight defense and luck on her. She currently has 83% crit chance, and with Critical Burn that would boost her to 108% critical chance if the enemy is on fire. Sciel has been doing MASSIVE BIG DICK BIG MAN DAMAGE and I benched Luna like 10 hours ago.

I personally think ALL the characters have their own unique ways to contribute and excel depending on their weapons and pictos combination. Sciel has been the carry for my team comp so far. Now if you want to talk about an INCREDIBLY PANTS ON HEAD RETARDED FAGGOT system/character, look no further than Verso.

Verso I don't understand, so I just assume he's absolute trash. He's entire battle system relies on parrying and if you can't parry then he's essentially worthless. Most of his skills are garbage, and if anything he works more as some tank support archetype instead of as a damage dealer, but even then Monnaco does that 10x better than Verso does. Monnaco being a "Blue Mage" essentially gives him free range to really be ANYTHING you want. I just personally cannot stand Verso at all. He's like the "edgelord" version of Gustave and much shitter to play as. Again, maybe I'm just not building Verso correctly, and don't understand how to play him, but I really don't carry for this "parry rank up" bullshit where he's worthless if you get hit once.

For me it's

Sciel>Monnaco>>Maella>=Luna>>>>>Verso.

Idiot can't into Verso

Surprised you're not a Maellejunkie neither

To me Verso sucked monkey ass at first but later I discovered he can land 13 hits with one skill and he become the GOAT, replacing Maelle all the way throught act II

Scan thread

Lots of anons used Sciel as a support

??????

Wow, I'm playing her completely opposite so either I'm doing so incredibly right that you people couldn't figure out, or incredibly wrong and I'm gimping myself. I do think Grim Harvest is a fantastic AoE healing skill and I guess Dark Cleansing is good for taking care of status effects, but frankly I've played most of the game so far without a dedicated healer/support. You really don't need one. Maelle has no dedicated self-heal/recover skill, which sucks ass, but other than that every other character has a way to recover their own HP or heal others.

Sciel is my highest DPS output so far next to Maelle and Monnoco. Luna and Verso do the weakest amount of DPS in the group, and maybe that's just because my build isn't right on them or something?

healing

my brother in christ I'm playing on expert mode

Verso's skill "Steel STRIKO" is indeed powerful, but it takes a full turn to activate, and you need to be in S RANKU to get the damage up for it. I personally don't think it's worth the prep time on it. Maelle's SWORDO Ballet hits SIX times, BUT each critical hit she lands does DOUBLEU DAMAGE, so if you get a high crit rate on Maelle then I think she easily outdamages Verso

My main party so far for ACT II has been Sciel, Monoco, and Maelle. They're crushing shit. I don't know what's wrong with you people who think Verso and Luna are somehow superior because they're not. Luna is an AP SUCKER and has no reliable way to generate AP unless you have someone acting as a battery for her. A lot of her OP moves cost 7-9 AP, and generating stains with Elemental Trick is worthless if you don't have a super high crit rate. You'd have to build Luna for pure crit if you really wanted to get any real mileage out of her.

Luna works better as a pure support to me. She's the only one with a dedicated resurrection skill and can apply regen to the party, but so can Monoco, and I think Monoco does a better job playing support/healer than Luna can. Luna is also incredibly squishy if you build her for straight damage, just like any other mage/spellcaster in RPG's. Glass cannon builds aren't as fun as people make them seem. You either need to be REALLY confident in your parry/dodge abilities or build your party members for more defense so they take less damage from hits, and you don't have to worry about someone dying in 2-3 hits.

There are so many builds for each character that arguing who is superior is probably pointless. I just got an Earth weapon for Luna, and with the right Earth-type build she would most likely be destroying a lot of people with Terraquake and breaking enemies nonstop. You could just make her into a pure "breaker" type that breaks enemies and keeps them stunned.

Well, I am not, because I'm not that confident. I'm playing on default difficulty. I have no idea what the game is like on expert, but it sounds tedious. I would imagine you need to really confident in your ability to parry/dodge attacks. I would think on expert that some kind of healer/support is a necessity.

Maybe a lot of anons ITT played on expert so that's why they used Sciel as a healer/support? You really don't need one on default difficulty. Sciel can do fantastic damage output, so I don't know what so many anons in the thread are talking about with her being weak and boring.

Warming up

Holy shit I wish I got this earlier

brother why you typing 5 walls of text when you play on normal and arent even in act3

where are the tint upgrades? I swear I only got like 2

so qrd on NG+? any exclusive stuff to NG+? more difficult bosses?

She's cute, but not too cute. She looks attainable to a lot of average people, so people find her attractive as a result.

It's not my fault you can't read and make arguments. We're discussing damage output and builds, so that requires a lot of text/writing.

Most people in this thread seem to be drooling retards who don't know how to do builds for max damage output, so they just assume a certain character is trash because they don't know what they're doing.

how do you unlock gustave locked skills?

guess where you are on this line

Monoco is braindead in act 3. I feel like if you can’t make him work you’re doing something extremely wrong. That AOE earth move is easily one of the most braindead moves in the game. Ciel is fun she just needs a bit of start up to get going.

I don't need to guess. I'm at #5, and that's a cute graph. Did you make it yourself? Or did someone from Reddit make it? Is that where you got it from? Reddit? Maybe you should go back there.

what AoE move?

Damn I feel stupid waiting to do the the final boss there’s a lot of good pico I missed out on

why did monoco die for no reason? yes i understand the auto death picto, but you literally have no on death or on revive effects to make it DO anything.

also, other characters can do that much damage in a SINGLE turn. you literally get more out of casting the damage amp on them.

If you used Verso in your party and had fun, then I got bad news for you.

The news is you have shit taste and are a masochist.

Verso with Chevalum is a trash deleter. Starts S rank and with free rush. 5 cost phantom stars so you have some wiggle room to delete shields. Instantly ends every non boss fight in the game. It's braindead and comfy. Also he is BROKEN against Simon with Angel's Eyes. No need to even learn light speed. Verso auto revives and then you can revive the whole squad using revive paradox. Set Angel's Eyes back up and you can't lose. Obviously keep Maelle in the back with first strike to just delete phase 3.

is Simon supposed to be some hidden boss? I just finished act III, thinking about exploring all the map now that I can fly

Not that anon but Monoco only has one AoE earth move.

It's for Gustave.

every late game boss has 10+ hit combos with awkward delays and instant follow ups and if you fuck up 2-3 parries you die

Who the hell enjoys this? No wonder people are just doing a bit of grinding and just one shotting everything without actually engaging with the enemies at all.

yeah, and other characters dont look good with it. im a sucker for the white version though.

do frozen hearts including the boss at the end

rest of the game becomes a joke

feels like I ruined the experience

The problem is most people dont bother feeding into Monoco. In my case I liked him so I kept up with his weapons and Lumina points. I was struggling with Act 3 a bit until I got Lampmaster Light from the battle tower and once I tried it out and realized how broken it was pretty soon even Simon was deleted. Wasnt until later that I realized Monoco can stunlock too.

I thought they would be more in the endless tower

Monoco carried me with Lampmaster Light. His one-shot potential isn't quite as good as other characters but you can still make it work.

I'm not even going to quote that one retard who can't use Verso and typed like a faggot. Holy shit. Probably the most worthless poster I've seen in a long time. Stop typing like that retard.

why do people even think dr pimple popper lune is good?

Typhoon is so slept on for some reason, not a single streamer I watched realized the potential it has when you combo it with all the on-heal effect Pictos. Perma max AP and full buffs for everyone.

The skills I dont mind. But toward the end I just got sick of sifting through the shitty menu through my hundreds of pictos trying to remember what the names were while setting up specific builds. Got bored and just made Verso my nuclear bomb while everybody else is a vague blob of whatever.

but it takes a full turn to activate

Sciel can fix that.

Contorso

All free aim upgrades

All basic attack upgrades

Cheater

YEP IT'S PIANO MAN TIME

was gonna record a video of me one-turning those merchants with Monoco and ask why you need all those turns

realize Im at the start of NG+

Ah well.

is lampmaster light missable?

No

Most people in this thread seem to be drooling retards who don't know how to do builds for max damage output, so they just assume a certain character is trash because they don't know what they're doing.

NTA but that is quite literally you. You're playing on normal and not even half way through the game calling other people who've beaten it days ago on expert "drooling retards" for accurately correcting you.

They are leaving the romance part for the sequel.
The monkey paw would be that it would be Alicia at this point, not Maelle. Unkess you really like Katawa Shoujo.

I miss Gustave