Sony is dea-

sony is dea-

how can you make a console with no games and still make a shitton of money out of it?

by not having the price of the ps5 go down like previous gens

snoys are cultists

5 years in

generation is about to end

75 million consoles sold

vs 120 million PS4 sold around the same time

so where did the 45 million people who bought a PS4 go to?

PC

Because pajeets and browns will buy them en-masses. They don't know how to build PCs, that PS5s are the only way they can play Warzone and Fifa

still on ps4 and ps3 my nigga, playing vidya like it's 2009 outside
modern games are like 7th gen games but shittier and maybe prettier

By establishing your brand as essential in the eyes of society. You no longer need to offer competitive prices, offer compelling products, offer unique experiences. You just need to have enough social zeitgeist power - and substantial online social media presence - to establish your brand as a requirement in our dying economy.

Friendly reminder that Sony invested in entire “social media engagement” departments and buildings back in the early days of Neogaf, which (and its successor) became a stronghold for disseminating Sony brand awareness.

ps4 didn't have genshin

how can you make a console with no games and still make a shitton of money out of it?

There is a Reason we call them the Gachastation 5

lol. They're gonna keep increasing prices on everything. This is real "ehehe we've hit the maximum users all we can do is squeeze as much profit as we can from each user :)" talk

Then explain how Microsoft is a trillion dollar company and yet still has to shed 7,000 jobs if they are making a lot of money? The report they did well last quarter. Barely any peep on that but Nintendo making 1 game $80, that's when gamers riot. Not from a corpo who killed 7,000 jobs to save $1.4 billion dollars but because one game is asking $10 more than the rest.

By charging €800 euros for the ps5 pro, €80 for games and €120/year for online
And microtransactions

with Increasing Operating Leverage

It's comparing economies of 20+ years ago to today but not adjusting for inflation. Of course it's going to be more profitable on paper. No doubt there's a reason they've published the non-inflation adjusted figures.

You realise this chart is without inflation. They're down significantly over the PS4.

"Most Profitable Generation to Date"

starts the generation at 2020 and just calls it the PS5 generation even though PS4 numbers are still included.

Looks pretty blatantly misleading to me.

Thoughbeit the sales numbers are about 2X the rate of US inflation. Op-In is about +50% over inflation comparing PS1 and PS5. What this says is that cost of revenue is actually growing about 50% faster than sales, which is unsustainable and probably why the CFO made those comments.

I didn't know Sony ate a loss for the PS3 lol!

Thanks for your input vegan

This.

buying hardware with no games to play

how can you make a console with no games

That's factually incorrect.

Kill yourself tranny sheep

Those are all pc games...
The ps5 has no exclusives

there's nothing that would make me buy a ps5 with some games still coming to ps4 lmao (and let's be honest here, even ps5 games could be downgraded enough to get released on the ps4, they don't do it to push people to buy their novidyastation)
the latest AAA game that was released recently that I actually bought was ac6

inb4 just build a pc bro

where do you think I'm shitposting from, I just hate gaming on pc, most of the time it feels like a second job

2 Returnals, 3 Spider Mans, 2 God of Wars, 5 Horizons (lol!), 2 Astros, 2 TLoUs, and... Concord

What a shit generation. Tons of those games are remakes and cross platform as well.

Reminder that the "PS5 generation" includes sales from PS5, PS4, PSVR2, PS Portal, PS Store catalogue, PC and PS Plus subscriptions.
PS5 on it's own doesn't sell shit.

It sounds like they've started using Microsofts engagement shit vs actual sales to cover the fact they're not the powerhouse they used to be back in the PS1-PS2 days. My personal theory is that more and more gets PCs and just pirates everything, it's cheaper.

I mean bro I'm picking up a PS5 for gta but like what am I supposed to play here lol? Already played the ones I'm interested in on PC.

PS5 price never actually went down.
Most users come from end of generation price drops, like the PS3 would be seen as a GCN or Dreamcast tier flop had it not released the Slim.

Yup. Failing brands start doing this
vgchartz.com/article/449563/phil-spencer-xbox-more-focused-on-player-engagement-than-console-sales/

It's not a concern if they include ps4 numbers in their reports

How they didn't forsee that people would just play games on PC is beyond me. We're way past the days where only hardcore gamers are played on steam. It's not even like they make so much money on the OC ports that they just have to kill their only appeal, it's a totally retarded decision all around.

using ports, tech demos, a fucking lego game and concord to pad out the list

grim

Enough about PCVegans and Tendies
!

astro demo, VR, remakes

grim

The main competition (Xbox) has done nothing but make 7/10 and lower games for the past decade and just went multiplat.

The full Astro Bot game is great actually, but yeah that's only 1 game more.

So long as consoles are just repacked PCs, this will happen. People laught at Nintendo's hardware and gimmicks, but those are a substantial moat around an install base of hundreds of millions.

Market out the ass and capitalize off tech illiteracy.

retards will see this and still say “no games”

PlayStation puts out a decent amount of games. Just because they release on pc later (cause of Sony’s retarded new strategy that will lead them to irrelevance) doesn’t mean they get deleted from the console or stop being PS games. With the way people talk online you would think Sony literally puts out zero games for the platform which is demonstrably false

Sony is winning because of the damn trophies. Normies love hunting for the platinums and there is a huge platinum hunter community.

Meanwhile Nintendo, Xbox and Steam fully neglect their trophy systems and snoy normies literally dont want to play games on other platforms because they cant platinum

Meanwhile Nintendo, Xbox and Steam fully neglect their trophy systems

wasn't xbox the first to introduce gamer score and trophy among with xbox live which was very ahead of its time for consoles? what an L

This. I had a friend that gamed on Xbox and when I asked him why he replied with one word, “Halo”. Once the Master Chief Collection was brought to pc take a wild guess on what platform he was now playing on and what console he sold. Sony going down the same path is so nonsensical to me. You’d think they’d go the Nintendo route and make more exclusives and smaller games instead of following the platform that’s dead last in sales and relevance

I'm picking up a PS5 for gta

No wonders they're feeling safe to increase the price on games, since people like you are willing to spend 500+$ for just one game.

They stopped selling games and started selling subscription services, that's how. PSPlus launched in 2010 and became mandatory since the PS4 and onward. People pay tons of money to be allowed to play their own games they already paid for, despite Sony not actually hosting servers and leaving everything p2p anyway.

Anon, the PS5 is the fastest selling console that released in it's year of release. What you are saying makes no sense.

Nintendo always had the right idea, people just weren't ready to accept the truth. Moving away from the idea that console have to be multimedia locked down PCs was the objectively correct choice in the age of smartphones as its their withered technology approach given both keep costs low not just for the consumer but the company.

It's not even like they make so much money on the OC ports

Actually, according to what Sony tells investors,

it's like printing money

All of their ports have drastically outsold their console releases.

Porting hasn't just been a drastic increase in their income, but it's also kept the company afloat during severe budget bloat.

half to get a PS5 for GTA6

or wait 3 more years

All of their ports have drastically outsold their console releases.

???
god of war: 23mil total, 3mil pc
horizon: 24mil total, 3,7mil pc
tlou p1: 370k pc
spider man (remastered): 1.5mil pc, original game 30mil+ total

steamies don't like snoy slop, this is a fact
there are few exceptions tho, like helldivers for instance, maybe stellar blade when it drops, gran turismo 8 (since it's a live service game now there's a 99% chance it will have a pc release too)

I ain't buying it for Sony games

Best hardware, make great games and sell 3rd party games.
Steam only sells 3rd party slop
MS can only sell on other stores
Nintendon't only makes slop for paypig pedos
Easiest win they've had in decades.

Cause people buy these consoles to play 3rd party games and live-service shit like Fortnite.

Must be why their profit margins are so low.

i am still comfy on ps4 i have hated fucking sony for years at this point so no upgrade for me

Go take your HRT and ack, PChomo.

Compared to what? Not everyone can cardboard for $100

sony is dea-

In Japan it is.
thegamer.com/evo-japan-finals-descend-into-chaos-due-to-overheating-ps5s-guilty-gear/

Good morning, sir

Japan

Hello roleplaying Jeet!

still on PS4

Gamers are a captive audience.
Im just going to say it buy an ebike and go out and drive on dirt roads you will make friends irl and loose weight

based fellow grass toucher
I was torn between buying tales of graces f remasterd or getting rings for the calisthenics park
I choose rings, best $20 I've ever spent

I'm surprised Xbox dying didn't translate into sales for Sony and they are still behind PS4, no wonder they are moving the goal post and saying their new focus isn't selling units high performance console gaming or what ever was the market they invented has reached its ceiling.

I feel the whole "high performance console" talk is huge cope in general, they're not gonna outsell Switch 1 or Switch 2. Anyone that grows up and actually gets money has little to no reason not to get PC if they're into gaming, even if they're into Playstation games because it's all coming to PC now.

I have a PS4 but i just play PC now

Not everyone can cardboard for $100

No one except for sony. Well, it's a $500 box but same diff.

$1 in 1997 is $2.02 now

literally lost over 100% of value and you are saying these numbers mean... anything?

P-Please be mad at Sony for something they haven't done yet!!!

Enjoy your $900 Scamtendo 2 and $90 gaymes!

pc filters normalfags

switch doesn't get the same games, it's not an actual alternative

xbox is xbox

Because we're back in the PS2 days again where Sony is the only console in town and in this world, any multiplat not on Switch(which is most of them recently) might as well be a Playstation exclusive as far as normalfags are concerned. The biggest disconnect that Anon Babble has is thinking that the average gamer cares a lot of about exclusives. They don't. Nearly all of their time spent gaming is on multiplats.

more than that, buying call of duty means FTC trial due to a possible monopoly
if you take fornite, fifa, cod and gachaslop away consoles are a net loss without live service games that generate infinite money
the same is kinda true for pc where people would rather pirate single player games and the top 5 is also just dota, cs, cod and whatever multiplayer slop
despite what everyone here might think the market has to bend to the average NPC drone consooomer

Yeah, Sony shouldn't have ported their games to PC, instead they got tricked by MS and now they must continue going after that money and hoping their MAU bullshit boosted by PC players manages to trick investors, and heck, maybe even port some MP games to Switch and get some users form there too.

ps5 has no ga AACK

this is really all there is to it

reminder that they managed to sell a 250 dollaridoos wii u gamepad to their paypigs

remove thos that you can play on ps4

Because we're back in the PS2 days again where Sony is the only console in town and in this world

Oh not at all. Sony is more irrelevant than ever before. Sure they have their cult fanbase who will buy anything but they can't sustain them no matter how many consoles are out there, that's why the software sales are so low.
On top of that with every multiplat that isn't unoptimized AAA garbage going to every system including the switch and them porting every exclusive they have to PC I can't even see the cultists taking this kind of abuse for much longer.

*Also on PC

I literally do this with my phone on Pc.
There are plenty of small games that are perfect in bead

I get it to an extent, people like to meme about the Switch 2 getting FF7 Remake but if people really like it, that's the sort of thing that can drive Playstation console sales when people want to play part 3 day 1 and it's still a timed Playstation exclusive. That seems to be Sony's strategy with their delayed PC ports too. They want people to play their games(which is why they have 0 drm) so that they buy a PS5 to play the sequels.

+15 or so physical games

Why would I do that.
So not PC exclusive? Bummer.

Hamaguchi already confirmed Rebirth and Part 3 are coming to Switch 2.
Square Enix has their own issues and can't go worrying about Playstation fumbling. Part 3 will launch everywhere simultaneously

Nintendo is the Apple of gam-

Part 3 will launch everywhere simultaneously

That's not how exclusivity contracts work. They are made years in advance.

I seriously doubt that it's working. Sure on PC you may have to spend more on hardware but at least you can actually play 1440p/4K native. The second you lose exclusives you become just like Xbox honestly. There's no real difference. And if everything becomes about profit line go up rite now every second then Sony will do the same shit, port older Sony games to Switch 2 like that's somehow supposed to convert users to Playstation.

Sony has always been the apple of gaming. The only people who n thought otherwise were their cult of a fanbase.

In theory it should work in their favor with how everyone is a consoomer and want to be day 1 on everything but jimbo utterly fucked them and his own strategy by pursuing GaaS, now they don't ahve any sequels or even those same GaaS that were supposed to entice PC players into getting a PS5.

PS5

900$ (800$ console + 100$ online) for 480p 35 fps and zero games

Xbox

850$ (730$ console + 120$ for online) for 360p 25 fps and zero games

Steam Deck

PC but with 50% performance for 90% price

Switch 2

470$ (450$ console + 20$ online) for 4k 60 fps for shitload of kino games

What makes you think Sony has exclusivity contract for Part 3 when SE already saw the writing on the wall and Rebirth's contract was for 3 months?

Yah I'm thinking you are high

that's why the software sales are so low.

No, software sales are so low because people are all playing live service games instead and you see this exact same thing on the Steam charts or Microsoft's storefront. That's not a Playstation exclusive, even that is multiplat. Even on Switch, the most popular games are multiplayer (Mario Kart/ Splat/ACNH), It's a repeat of what happened on PC in the mid 2000's where everyone played the same few multiplayer games most of the time. It's not AS bad because single player games can still sell decently well but live service games and especially f2p live service games are being played more. The latter being bad for Sony because you don't need PS+ to play free games online.

On top of that with every multiplat that isn't unoptimized AAA garbage going to every system including the switch

No, AA games like Expedition 33 aren't on it. You can try to spin this any other way but most GotY contenders haven't been on Switch these past few years nor are the other normalfag games like CoD and Madden. Even smaller games that popped off like Blue Prince aren't on Switch. The Switch just doesn't get many big multiplats right now and spoiler alert, this will happen again with the Switch 2 after the initial back ports. The Switch 2 will never be an alternative to PC or Playstation. Being a hybrid holds it back too much.

That's Eric for you.

And SE stated that that exclusivity contract is what's killing it.

It stands to reason that they probably got exclusivity for the whole trilogy upfront and Square used that money to invest back into the games.

Sony

What "killed" Rebirth is that it's an 100 hour sequel to a 70 hour game that greatly benefits from having played the 40 hour original game. The amount of time needed to even dip your toes into Part 3 is retarded. They could release it on every platform all at once and it won't sell well when you need to dump 140 hours bare minimum and buy 2 others games.

What killed it is making it a trilogy in the first place. Case in point: Final Fantasy 13.

Even on Switch, the most popular games are multiplayer

Some of the biggest are single player
nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html

multiplayer

MK8, ACNH, Smash, Pokemon S/V, Pokemon Sw/Sh, Mario Party, NSMB

single player

BotW, TotK, Odyssey because the counting cappy as multiplayer is a bit of a reach

There's definitely a multiplayer focus in what is bought. Don't try to claim Pokemon isn't multiplayer when battling and trading have been major parts of the franchise since gen 1.

A more full list:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games
The demand for single player games is huge and will remain so. There's tons of people who simply don't care about for anything multiplayer, either they don't like competitive gaming or they think it's boring.
Live service games gets huge numbers because of poor people and kids.

The 10 and 13 triologies were just fan service tho

Aren't the FF7 games actually gameplay focused, or are they just FF themed movies?

To your first point: gacha are going to kill PC gaming. They are infinite hour timesinks with young adult themes and gambling, with an aesthetic that all gaming-aged people love. Asking someone to settle down and play even a 10 hour movie game like Hellblade after getting dopamine overdosed on Pretty Princess Panty Quest part CMXIV Now With The P90 will be impossible.

Young adult themes

Paymon lost his diaper quest

The fire village are bitches against us beat their waifu/husbando leader and talk no jutsu

Your argument is flawed because it only counts box sales when the f2p multiplayer games are the biggest ones. Your fortnites, marvel rivals, apex legends etc. I don't care for multiplayer games, however this is the reality. The majority of games getting played are multiplayer that are either free or were bought on sale for cheap. Even most brand new multiplayer games know to release at around $40 max like Palworld and Hell Divers 2.
store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed

If you want to look at it through a Nintendo lens look at how successful Pokemon GO and the Pokemon TCG mobile game were. Then look at singleplayer focused series like Xenoblade that don't sell that well compared to how massive the install base of the Switch is.

Yeah, time is finite too. I've known people that got heavily into gachas and they basically stopped playing most other games because their time spent playing games was wasted on daily quests, whatever new gacha event dropped, and then interacting with the communities for those gacha games. At most they'd continue to play a live service game with friends on the side out of the social obligation.

Gaming is becoming increasingly bleak, f2p games(including gachas) are already having a massive impact on the market. That's part of the reason why we see these massive franchises continue to sell less. The other anon I'm responding to posted a link to Nintendo's sales figures for the new Zelda games. BotW sold 32 million copies, TotK in a post Genshin Impact world sold 21 million. That's a massive drop off despite the Switch install base growing much larger by the time TotK released.

it has a gameplay system that isnt smash attack to win even with some bosses but it revolves stagger system with obtuse retarded shit to stagger them or build up more damage with tifa, and retarded expanded "story" of nu og npcs like noctis asset swap being corneo goon

That's part of the reason why we see these massive franchises continue to sell less

Compared to what? Every Nintendo franchises are doing better than ever. Tons of people will buy GTA 6 for the campaign and never touch the online. Single player will never go away because it's untouchable.

TotK in a post Genshin Impact world sold 21 million. That's a massive drop off despite the Switch install base growing much larger by the time TotK released.

I've seen this cope ever since live service and free games became a thing and I said it back then too. It'll only appeal to poor people and kids and that remains true to this day. The amount of retards who thinks grinding for unlocks is fun are miniscule compared to the single player market, premium products will always beat free garbage. There's no way around that.

Compared to what? Every Nintendo franchises are doing better than ever.

That's just due to the nature of the install base, but that's not even true because Zelda that just had a massive 33% dropoff for an incredibly anticipated sequel to a game that many think is one of the greatest ever made. This idea that only kids and poorfags are playing f2p games simply isn't true because retarded richfags are the ones keeping them alive. That's the biggest reason that ecchi games have moved from console to mobile, the guys willing to spend for anime titties(single with a large disposable income) are willing to spend more than just $60 for them. Games like Elden Ring can do better then Dark Souls 3, but those are exceptions and not the rule.

The amount of retards who thinks grinding for unlocks is fun are miniscule compared to the single player market, premium products will always beat free garbage.

The reality is in that both cases, players will buy the unlocks instead now. Even single player games are becoming infected with annoying grinds that you can pay to skip and those games are designed to make spending seem appealing by adding in some extra tedium. Sega and Bandai Namco stand out, their RPGs in particular are guilty of this.

premium products will always beat free garbage

The question becomes if it's worth $70(soon to be $80) and the answer there is simply "no" most of the time. If you can pick it up for $20 in a year then that's a different story but that's just another reason why many games are failing to meet sales expectations at launch now. The value proposition for full priced games has plummeted compared to the market before f2p became so popular. A game like that new Prince of Persia sold like shit because you could pick up other Metroidvania games for $5-$20 instead and that's the same sort of idea where people don't think it's worth paying more for games when they can get cheaper(or free) ones. This is why AAA is going to crash.

Microtransactions from games like Genshit, Fall Guys and Fortnite get them more profit than $70 games can.

what the fuck is MAU?

Monthly Active Users

as in online subs? are they going the way of xbox?

Wait does this graph mean the ps6 will come '26?

MAU usually means total users, not just subs. They want people to use their Playstation a lot so when they do make a gaming purchase, it's on Playstation. Sony gets a 30% cut of everything on Playstation so they don't give a shit if it's a full game or mtx.

they were already with live service abortion projects instead of new ps5 games slops made by the usual slop devs

consoles usually have a 7 year cycle (don't know why don't ask me chud)
ps5 shipped in 2020
so ps6 should come on holiday 2027 or early 2028, which is confirmed by multiple reports and leaked documents

26-27 ps5 released 7 years after ps4 we re 5 years later and still ps4 has GAMES KEKEKEEKEK (elden slop fartnite)

TotK in a post Genshin Impact world sold 21 million. That's a massive drop off despite the Switch install base growing much larger by the time TotK released.

You think it should've sold 40 million in a week, you massive retard?
It did in 1 year what took BotW 4

Niggas really think PS5 won’t get to 150M kekaroo. Wait till GTA 6 drops nigga…no one is playing ts on an Xbox, and PCvegans can only watch it on YouTube lmao

selling 21 million is a bad thing

LMAO
it should have been a failure, lazy fuckers with the same map, FUCK YOU

By Sony laying off thousands of people and going third party like Microsoft. Payroll is expensive.

nah, i doubt it will even hit 100m

Surely you jest? Grand Theft Auto 6. Need I say more?

GTA6 will be the next TLOU2. A complete BOMB. This is why they keep delaying it. They are scared of releasing it but are forced to do it by DEI. decree. youtube.com/watch?v=K_uZZ9L6jjk Take 2 owns Rockstar.

It did in 1 year what took BotW 4

Almost like it takes time to produce consoles to get an install base that can purchase games but that was no longer an issue by the time TotK was out and 1/3rd of the people that bought BotW didn't buy TotK. Halo 2 instantly sold more than Halo 1. Halo 3 instantly sold more than Halo 2. The market used to have sequels instantly outsell the predecessor because of the momentum it had going into the release.

Some men think that owning a PS Is part of being a man
Yes, snoy fans are mentally ill

it's the best place to play third party games even over PC

delusional

pffffttttttt

Lemme guess, you pre ordered a Switch 2.

Notice how the "industry" is spamming the narrative that GTA is too big to fail? They said the same thing about Halo and FF. They also said any console that EA DOES NOT support dies. Nintendo RAPED that bullshit narrative. When GTA6 flops, the whole stinking cesspool will come crashing down.

Heh, I can sense the nervous energy.

I heavily dislike gta since 4 but do you really think 6 will flop that hard? I think it will reach 10million sales in the first week.

what did you just insinuate you little nintenbro?

Cuckholdry and manchild behavior.
spbp

its more credible they re squeezing gta online all they want and prepare gta online 2 with rp and shiet

6 will flop that hard?

Yes. Once I saw the E3 Take 2 video, I knew it was GAME OVER. Watch it.

Yeah they're probably going to host their own RP servers to compete against nopixel and the like.

Sony President and CEO Hiroki Totoki says the PlayStation Portal has been a “strong and profitable peripheral” that they will continue to focus on!

Sony fanboys really buying Sony's version of Wii U kek

PC hasn't had games in decades, nobody seems to mind

Snoytrannies are objectively the most loyal vidya fanbase so they'll eay anything Snoy shits out. They don't care that Snoy is selling a console that's $700 but also jews you on disc drive and stand, that Snoy is selling TLOU for the 5th time for 130 fucking dollars, or that their paid service regularly goes down for extended periods so you can't play shit you bought.

If I buy a game for a platform I shouldnt have to do research on computer parts to figure out whether I can play it or not. This is why consoles will continue to have success. The "exclusives" argument isn't totally invalid, but it is secondary.

i guess its time to fuck an old lady to get a $1000 PS6

This is the new face of GTA. Watch the damn video and see what they say about women. Why do you think there is a bitch as the main character in GTA6? Coincidence? GTA6 will be a disaster of epic proportions. People like Asmongold are going to have a field day reporting on it.

That;s NOT true. Astrobot and Concord BOMBED.

One of the reasons I don't want to get a PS5 other than the obvious no games thing is paying for cloud saves. As in if you're not paying the cuck subscription you can't use it. Xbox gives it free of charge, you don't need to be a Game Ass subscriber to use it, Steam does the same. Why is it so hard so Sony?

The power of Bloodborne and Gran Turismo.

Steam gives you sgickers to speculate with along with your cheevos

I'm genuinely baffled how Nintendo hasn't added them yet. Fanboys would love to show off all their 100% completed games to each other.

Nigger xbox made the "trophies"

also steam have some additional trophies in some games compared to console

Sony is winning because of the damn trophies.

Nah, that's not it. Steam achivements suck ass, but Xbox's system is not bad. If Xbox was the more popular option, those people would just hunt perfect 1000/1000 gamerscore instead. Maybe Xbox could add like an extra achivement for getting a perfect gamerscore, but it's not a big deal. Personally I like the gamerscore approach better.
Xbox was actually doing so well since release of X|S until like 2023, the hardware was selling incredibly well all things considered and they couldn't release any games worth a damn during that time, so people naturally gave up. Since 2023, they have announced multiple Goypass price hikes, "everything is an Xbox", gave up on the exlusives, now they are raising the price of hardware and games. It was all in their hands and they fumbled AGAIN.

Owning a PS5 is sort of a status symbol for a lot of people, so it's become kind of an apple scenario where everyone who exists wants to own one. They just don't care. If the PS6 ever gets released and it has nothing on it but PS5 and PS4 games, people are gonna be okay with that and buy it up.

so where did the 45 million people who bought a PS4 go to?

PS4 users are still active paying customers and part of the eco systems, consoles gens are more like graphics cards upgrades now. Same games better graphics. You will see a big shift over for GTA as it is the defacto home of GTA, same thing happened at the tail end of the PS3 gen with last of us/GTA pushing it into the lead and the overall victory of the gen.

I can see where you're coming from, but I think PlayStation used up a lot of the gamer good will they had this generation. I don't think people would just jump on the upgrade when PS6 gets released. PS5/Xbox Series consoles are a huge hardware step up from the previous gen, but the games underdelivered big time. PS6 just won't have anything else to bring other than bigger numbers and next generation of "AI upscaling".

PS5 and PS4 games

What PS5 games? Canceled live service slop? Lmao

same thing happened at the tail end of the PS3 gen with last of us/GTA pushing it into the lead and the overall victory of the gen

Is that true? Xbox had the marketing rights for GTA IV. Both IV and V ran better on Xbox 360 compared to PS3. PS3 cought up at the end of the generation because of price drops and first party studio out put which later continued into PS4 generation and Xbox messed up on their own

360 was in the lead when 4 come out and xbox had exclusive DLC deals so that sold better on 360, but despite the marketing rights as you said 5 sold better on PS3.

In its first five days Grand Theft Auto V sold 16 million units and generated $1.15 billion. 8.8 million units or 55 percent of the sales were for the Xbox 360, while the PlayStation 3 version sold 7.2 million units. Week one sales also exceeded the estimate of 15 million given the day before launch.

Xbox was winning even at the end, they just messed it up. Nobody wanted an Xbox 360 or One after that disastrous One annoucement

This is just an inflation chart

There's been a huge vibe change with Playstation. Ever since Concord and no games becoming such a thing even casuals are catching on.

For the 360, the end of life focus on the Kinect killed interest in the ecosystem as well. The Xbox One coming with a Kinect in the box was actually another major drawback because of that, your average hardcore gamer despised that thing and didn't want to buy in when Microsoft was pushing that junk again.

90% of PS5 and XSXS owners only play 3-4 games a year and most of those are live service games. That's not an exaggerated statistic. They're not buying games, they're spending money on COD, Fortnite, NBA 2k, Madden, GTA Online, etc.
The big players make big money, everybody else is scrambling for the attention and money of a few dozen million people.

This is why Sony was so eager to throw every publisher under the bus during the Microsoft/ABK acquisition trials with the FTC and EU, Call of Duty microtransactions are huge.

Hell what was that chart from Epic from the Apple vs Epic case? Playstation was something close to almost 50% of Fortnite revenue?

The Fortnite one, at least one that isn't a fucking webp

Shame about the shitty decisions that dragged Vita down. The hardware was nice and it did have a decent launch period.

snoys are cultists

best price in all of gaming by a country mile.

literally kills a console and gets all its games

everything is tailor made and costumized for the PS5

the game of the decade is practically a PS5 exclusive

zero hustle, everything works out of the box

physical games

but no, some delusional anons find refuge on an internet board so irrelevant no one cared when it went down, to post some arguments that make sense only in their head about how gamers should waste time and money on diminishing marginal results just because aforementioned anons decided in high school to make "computers" their only personality trait

>vs 120 million PS4 sold around the same time

the same time

delusional or ESL. it's selling on par with the PS4.

PC lost. PS5 won. (nintendo bros welcome to celebrate console victory)

Brand momentum. It's the reward Sony reaped for PS4 running basically uncontested for almost 5 years. People think it was actually good when everyone else just sucked more.

They said the same thing about Halo and FF

retarded post. first of all these games were never as big as GTA. secondly Halo died very slowly through the course of 10 years and 4 total games. FF is the only Square property doing well, schizo posting doesn't count.

Nintendo RAPED that bullshit narrative.

nintendo has one utter failure for every successful console.

PC hardly loses when they get their games for free, mate.

Except you don't, you pay full price for digital "games"

People think it was actually good when everyone else just sucked more.

Still sort of the case. In a hypothetical where you had to be a console peasant and stuck on a single device, Playstation is still the obvious choice. Too many big games miss the Switch and Xbox is a Playstation but with less games. That's the life many normalfags lead, they get 1 console and that's it, so they go with the console that gets the most games.

they get 1 console and that's it, so they go with the console that gets the most games.

Nowadays that's nintendo, not playstation

*Also on PC

just pay more and wait more and have more bugs and waste more time and cry about optimization but it's all worth it because you posted a 15 year old meme on an irrelevant board
pc guys are stubborn and delusional

No, you can't play the big normalfag games on it. Especially the ones normalfags are discussing. There is a dearth of multiplat releases even for smaller AA games like Expedition 33. Playstation might not have exclusives but it just gets all the games that aren't Nintendo exclusives now. If you have to own 1 console, it's that. Or you miss the conversations about Wukong, BG3, Metaphor, Elden Ring, GTA 6, Sekiro, SH2, MH Wilds, Pirate Yakuza, etc.

Their main competitor is making a worse console with even less games.

Anon why do you think Switch outsold PS4 and PS5? Because it has more games. Same story will happen with PS6 vs Switch 2. This "muh standard console" is looking less and less standard every generation lmao

Anon, they are releasing some boring as fuck trailer and breaking records for most youtube views in a week with it.

Parents buying it for their kids would be my actual answer. There are many more multiple Switch households than multiple PS5 households. Before the recent changes if you had 2 Switch consoles you could buy 1 copy of a game and play together with your kid at the same time with the main/secondary account trick. If you had 2 kids, you could have both kids playing together doing that too and at $200 per Lite, that was cheaper than a single PS5 that doesn't even have many local coop games and would need an extra $75 controller anyway.

Don't conflate the the casual dudebro that plays CoD and fotm bait with the Nintendog hypercasuals.

you can't play the big normalfag games on it.

And? That's about one game every 3 years with how bad their dev times and management is. And I'm not talking about one studio I'm speaking collectively.

There is a dearth of multiplat releases even for smaller AA games like Expedition 33.

A dearth? Just because one game didn't come to it?

Playstation might not have exclusives but it just gets all the games that aren't Nintendo exclusives now

The problem is that's such a small number of games, which is even smaller when taking their poor quality into account, that it's not worth buying when you can just pick up the switch which has more and higher quality titles without waiting as well as Nintendo's own exclusives.
Anything else you can just get on pc and not have to deal with Sony's ridiculous prices and anti-consumer nonsense.

Nope. Nintendo sells more because they got more games.

So now your job is to explain how the PS5 can sell 70 million with no games.

Just because one game didn't come to it?

Most of the games Anon Babble talks about don't release on it. The fotm game before E33 was Blue Prince and that didn't release on Switch either(this happened during the Anon Babble downtime however). Nintendo just doesn't get third party games like every other platform when the console is too weak once we reach the middle of the gen and third parties can't be assed to optimize most of the time. If you are stuck with the Switch as your only console, you can't talk about or play the most popular new releases. That's the issue, if the Switch is your only console, you are completely cucked. The third party Switch 2 launch games are legitimately "oh hey, here's a bunch of games that didn't release on Switch".

It's the default console for normalfags that want to play popular games. They got all their games on PS4 when it was the only consoel that mattered for years and they got a PS5 because their library and trophies carry over and they're still playing some of their live service PS4 games. They might have upgraded to play the new Madden which wasn't on PS4 or some shit. Most games are multiplats, especially the ones normalfags care about. To them the PS5 doesn't have no games(exclusives), it has all the games(available elsewhere). Normalfags view PS5 like we view PC, obviously PC is infinitely better and actually does have all the games but to a normalfag, if it has every game they care about and want to play then it has all the games.

The fotm game before E33 was Blue Prince

I have never seen anyone talk about Blue Prince here, I don't even know what Blue prince is.
And judging by the archive you're lying since no one fucking talked about it and most of the threads died before they could even get 100 posts.
arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/"blue prince" /type/op/
Palworld would be a better fit but most of the "discussion" was just talking about how much better it was than pokemon, seething about Nintendo or saying how much they want to fuck Dazzi.

If you want to see games people like talking about here look at the DQ3 remake, Unicorn Overlord, the Blaster Master Zero series, Deltarune all games that happen to also be on switch.

ps4 didn't have genshin

yes it does

Most of the games Anon Babble talks about don't release on it

For two gens I've seen casuals drop Playstation harder and harder because of no games which according to Anon Babble is "only something people talk about on forums or console war shit." Nah dude. Go to literally any sales website and people will say they're selling their playstation because of no games. You'll frequently hear shit like

turned on 10 times in 5 years

selling it because of no games

Yesterday I saw

selling it because gta 6 got delayed

And yet Sony fanboys will somehow claim it's a win for Sony

The difference this time is the overwhelming momentum of the Switch and its sheer success. PS4's competition was WiiU and Xbone. Switch actually showed the fuck up with strong exclusives and unique hardware, cornering an insane amount of market share and PS5 has to factor that in. Hell, just look at how dead the console is in Japan, that wasn't a problem for PS4. Ton of factors go into that but the point stands, Switch owned that region and was still a juggernaut around the rest of the world.

And judging by the archive you're lying since no one fucking talked about it and most of the threads died before they could even get 100 posts.

I mentioned it occurred when Anon Babble was down for nearly 2 weeks, lmao. It was the meme game on the rest of the internet during that period. Journalists and streamers were sucking it off like crazy and getting everyone else to play it, it was stealing all the "omg this is game of the year!!" type of posts and reactions before E33 dethroned it. It hit 19k concurrent on steam as on both the PS5/Xbox sub services day 1.
steamcharts.com/app/1569580

Unicorn Overlord, Blaster Master Zero series,

Those get a fraction of the discussion of actual big games. Deltarune is closer but the catalog has been full of E33 threads for a while now and the GTA 6 trailer flooded the board for a couple days as well. But regardless, even though Anon Babble has more normalfags than it used to those guys are still mostly on other social media platforms. Think like a dumbfuck normalfag, if you're a retard posting on reddit then you will be playing the reddit games. Blue Prince was one. E33 was one. Normalfags don't even know who Kanna is.

Just like PC exclusives are *also on PS5.

Hell, just look at how dead the console is in Japan, that wasn't a problem for PS4.

The PS4 sold less than the PS3 in Japan even though it had no competition in 2017. Japan has always been portable centric but mobile gaming decimated Playstation there. The Switch is successful because it's not a traditional console and is closer to a handheld which have always done well in Japan, traditional consoles have been dying in Japan long before the Switch released. Look at how handheld heavy the top of this list is:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles_by_region#Japan

You may as well just give up anon, you're never going to be able to accept reality.
The games you like just aren't ones that the masses care for or want.

Figures for FY20 and before are based on US GAAP; figures after FY 21 and onwards are based on IFRS

I don't know what this means, but clearly they must be using this to skew perception, as they are counting PS5 using a different data set.

normies don't care.

The PS4 sold less than the PS3 in Japan even though it had no competition in 2017

no competition until 2017*

yeah, but share-holders, you know..?

Auto renew online subscription and a player base to low IQ to keep track of their money.

The japanese got based taste in vidya

Wow, I figured PS4 would've at least cracked 10 million over there. Just a bit short, I guess.

I mentioned it occurred when Anon Babble was down for nearly 2 weeks, lmao

Problem is no one talked about it on any of the Alt chains either, most of the discussion was dominated by Nintendo.
In any case, that's irrelevant because it doesn't generate any kind of discussion. At all.

Journalists and streamers were sucking it off like crazy

That's news to me because it didn't show up anywhere. No one was talking about it, not here, not YouTube, not twitter nothing.
If people were then it was some ridiculously obscure corner of the Internet.

Those get a fraction of the discussion of actual big games

Looking at your big game list here >Wukong, BG3, Metaphor, Elden Ring, GTA 6, Sekiro, SH2, MH Wilds, Pirate Yakuza, etc
The only ones that did were Elden Ring, GTA, Sekiro and MHW. MHW only being there because it was a laughing stock of a game.

they should just drop the console stuff and become a publisher like sega has become. pc and steam is too powerful. gaben just can't be beaten and the man doesn't even do anything. he just sits there like a fat old bearded hippie and automatically wins.

FY20

Fiscal Year 20, FY21 would be fiscal year 2021

US GAAP/IFRS

Accounting standards, US GAAP is a national standard for USA only while IFRS is an international standard

the real reality is on the graph itself with operating income, you can 2022 and 2023 was in complete stagnation compared to the 4 previous year and the whole perious between 2006 and 2012 took a massive hit that they blame on the market crash (and not because of the PS3 failure)

Sony doomposting was always wrong. Many thought they would quit gaming after the PS3

Sony has been massively coasting ever since PS3.

shitty decisions that dragged Vita down

like lack of games?

wha makes you think i need to lose weight?

Sony is the jews basically

it's crazy how sony gets a thirty percent cut and how many of the game servers are straight-up p2p and then people still have to pay for online. absolutely insane, i literally cannot believe the stupid fucking gamers accepted this...

An indie game doesn't have 20k players on Steam out of nowhere. Plus it was "free" on PS+ and GamePass so it had a lot of players. Just because (you) didn't see it while in your corner of the internet doesn't mean that it didn't have fotm status for a bit. Go search youtube for it and sort by most watched, there's some big content creators that played it and it was probably getting traction on leddit since journalists were really sucking it off.
metacritic.com/game/blue-prince/critic-reviews/?platform=pc

games take a minimum of five years to make, that's why.

no it's usually 2-3 years and then if they are stuck in development hell due to mismanagement it gets to 5/8 years

there's literally zero reason to believe gta won't sell a gazillion copies and make a gazillion amount of buxx on online. literally everything points to it being an earth-shattering success when it comes out.

Bro... that shit is not even following inflation, that fucking embarrassing.

They migrated to the Switch. It's exactly why the nintendo fanbase is beyond obnoxious now, switchsnoys ARE a thing

no one cares about steam cheevos because of the crazy amount of cheaters, and Valve not giving 2 fuck to ban the cheats

Xbox is out of the picture. Nintendo Switch is a different market. Some people don't like to play on PC but prefer small box under shelf and sitting on couch. I think that's the cease.

things sure have been going great since corporations decided they don't have to compete against each other and can just fleece whatever captive audiences they have instead

Xbox is literally dead outside of the US. No one is buying that shit. In Germany the regular non Oled Switch is outselling the shitbox like 10 to 1

ps6 and gta 6 are going to be absolutely huge. it'll be ps5 and gta5 all over again. people will get the ps6 purely to be able to play gta6 maxed out at a juicy 60 frames per second.

we all already know niggers and ither assorted browns only play madden. it's so prevalent that angry joe made an entire career out of it.

xbox gave up
pc gaming is getting more expensive

by lying
there is no third party corroboration of game/system sales, Sony is just lying to their investors to prop up their market evaluation

The most likely contingent to "migrate" to Switch were probably Vitafags, and truth be told they have every reason to hate modern Sony.

It's getting more expensive to make a top of the line rig, but if you just want to buy a dinky laptop and hide under the shelter of Steam sales that's a pretty viable option at the moment.

but you don't get to play new AAA games

Oh no, I guess you'll have to spend that time playing decades' worth of actually good games instead.

This information is a bit misleading since they are mostly profitable because of COVID because everyone was profitable then. Not surprising the last two years are about where 17-19 were on average in terms of profits, with a small boost thanks to putting a lot of their games on Steam (where the cost of development was recognized in a previous period).

by raising prices and blaming it on trump.

gaming is more profitable than ever

yet they're still trying to convince us we need to pay $80 for games

Thank you for reminding me why I should never buy a PS5. I would only have ONE (1) game that I would give a shit about (Astro Bot) which is just Odyssey with a different coat of paint.

They migrated to the Switch

They migrated to PC, not switch. Unfortunately they still kept their console warrior ways which is why they have to force "switchsnoys".