Sony is dea-

lol. They're gonna keep increasing prices on everything. This is real "ehehe we've hit the maximum users all we can do is squeeze as much profit as we can from each user :)" talk

Then explain how Microsoft is a trillion dollar company and yet still has to shed 7,000 jobs if they are making a lot of money? The report they did well last quarter. Barely any peep on that but Nintendo making 1 game $80, that's when gamers riot. Not from a corpo who killed 7,000 jobs to save $1.4 billion dollars but because one game is asking $10 more than the rest.

By charging €800 euros for the ps5 pro, €80 for games and €120/year for online
And microtransactions

with Increasing Operating Leverage

It's comparing economies of 20+ years ago to today but not adjusting for inflation. Of course it's going to be more profitable on paper. No doubt there's a reason they've published the non-inflation adjusted figures.

You realise this chart is without inflation. They're down significantly over the PS4.

"Most Profitable Generation to Date"

starts the generation at 2020 and just calls it the PS5 generation even though PS4 numbers are still included.

Looks pretty blatantly misleading to me.

Thoughbeit the sales numbers are about 2X the rate of US inflation. Op-In is about +50% over inflation comparing PS1 and PS5. What this says is that cost of revenue is actually growing about 50% faster than sales, which is unsustainable and probably why the CFO made those comments.

I didn't know Sony ate a loss for the PS3 lol!

Thanks for your input vegan

This.

buying hardware with no games to play

Just read the chart, PS1/2/3/4 were sold on loss and become profitable later on, meanwhile PS5 was overpriced and still struggle to meet later PS4 numbers. If you adjust it for inflation then PS5 was clearly a pump and dump scheme.

Sony is still including the ps4 in their ps5 financial reports to this day
They're trying to hide the massive loss in software sales

noooo muh diversity hire devs

kill yourself

Sony's about to end this run with 40+ million users loss

shouldnt this be a topic of concern for them?

this but tendies

what is there even to play on ps4 that you cant play on pc or ps5?
worse grpahics, worse performance

They will definitely not fire the diversity hires. If anything, they will hire more of them to replace the people that they are about to fire. The whole purpose of Current Year Microsoft is to mainline foreigners into the US and to disperse nation-killing weirdos at the behest of the state.

Switching to PC halfway through the PS4 gen was the best decision i ever made

get all the PS and Xbox games for half the price on consoles

no online payfee, im playing the same games as the PS5 online only difference is they get suckered out of 80$

i seriously cant stop winning

Because it's been the only current gen console with any exclusives. Switch 2 will change that, but it's so under powered than it won't be running any modern third party games. The PS5 Pro is factually the most power modern console, and it'll be the best way to play GTA 6 until the PC release.

Still on PS4.

why are you still playing on your old box that you already have and still works fine?

how can you make a console with no games

That's factually incorrect.

Kill yourself tranny sheep

Those are all pc games...
The ps5 has no exclusives

there's nothing that would make me buy a ps5 with some games still coming to ps4 lmao (and let's be honest here, even ps5 games could be downgraded enough to get released on the ps4, they don't do it to push people to buy their novidyastation)
the latest AAA game that was released recently that I actually bought was ac6

inb4 just build a pc bro

where do you think I'm shitposting from, I just hate gaming on pc, most of the time it feels like a second job

2 Returnals, 3 Spider Mans, 2 God of Wars, 5 Horizons (lol!), 2 Astros, 2 TLoUs, and... Concord

What a shit generation. Tons of those games are remakes and cross platform as well.

Reminder that the "PS5 generation" includes sales from PS5, PS4, PSVR2, PS Portal, PS Store catalogue, PC and PS Plus subscriptions.
PS5 on it's own doesn't sell shit.

It sounds like they've started using Microsofts engagement shit vs actual sales to cover the fact they're not the powerhouse they used to be back in the PS1-PS2 days. My personal theory is that more and more gets PCs and just pirates everything, it's cheaper.

I mean bro I'm picking up a PS5 for gta but like what am I supposed to play here lol? Already played the ones I'm interested in on PC.

PS5 price never actually went down.
Most users come from end of generation price drops, like the PS3 would be seen as a GCN or Dreamcast tier flop had it not released the Slim.

Yup. Failing brands start doing this
vgchartz.com/article/449563/phil-spencer-xbox-more-focused-on-player-engagement-than-console-sales/

It's not a concern if they include ps4 numbers in their reports

How they didn't forsee that people would just play games on PC is beyond me. We're way past the days where only hardcore gamers are played on steam. It's not even like they make so much money on the OC ports that they just have to kill their only appeal, it's a totally retarded decision all around.

using ports, tech demos, a fucking lego game and concord to pad out the list

grim

Enough about PCVegans and Tendies
!

astro demo, VR, remakes

grim

The main competition (Xbox) has done nothing but make 7/10 and lower games for the past decade and just went multiplat.

The full Astro Bot game is great actually, but yeah that's only 1 game more.

So long as consoles are just repacked PCs, this will happen. People laught at Nintendo's hardware and gimmicks, but those are a substantial moat around an install base of hundreds of millions.

Market out the ass and capitalize off tech illiteracy.

retards will see this and still say “no games”

PlayStation puts out a decent amount of games. Just because they release on pc later (cause of Sony’s retarded new strategy that will lead them to irrelevance) doesn’t mean they get deleted from the console or stop being PS games. With the way people talk online you would think Sony literally puts out zero games for the platform which is demonstrably false

Sony is winning because of the damn trophies. Normies love hunting for the platinums and there is a huge platinum hunter community.

Meanwhile Nintendo, Xbox and Steam fully neglect their trophy systems and snoy normies literally dont want to play games on other platforms because they cant platinum

Meanwhile Nintendo, Xbox and Steam fully neglect their trophy systems

wasn't xbox the first to introduce gamer score and trophy among with xbox live which was very ahead of its time for consoles? what an L

This. I had a friend that gamed on Xbox and when I asked him why he replied with one word, “Halo”. Once the Master Chief Collection was brought to pc take a wild guess on what platform he was now playing on and what console he sold. Sony going down the same path is so nonsensical to me. You’d think they’d go the Nintendo route and make more exclusives and smaller games instead of following the platform that’s dead last in sales and relevance

I'm picking up a PS5 for gta

No wonders they're feeling safe to increase the price on games, since people like you are willing to spend 500+$ for just one game.

They stopped selling games and started selling subscription services, that's how. PSPlus launched in 2010 and became mandatory since the PS4 and onward. People pay tons of money to be allowed to play their own games they already paid for, despite Sony not actually hosting servers and leaving everything p2p anyway.

Anon, the PS5 is the fastest selling console that released in it's year of release. What you are saying makes no sense.

Nintendo always had the right idea, people just weren't ready to accept the truth. Moving away from the idea that console have to be multimedia locked down PCs was the objectively correct choice in the age of smartphones as its their withered technology approach given both keep costs low not just for the consumer but the company.

It's not even like they make so much money on the OC ports

Actually, according to what Sony tells investors,

it's like printing money

All of their ports have drastically outsold their console releases.

Porting hasn't just been a drastic increase in their income, but it's also kept the company afloat during severe budget bloat.

half to get a PS5 for GTA6

or wait 3 more years

All of their ports have drastically outsold their console releases.

???
god of war: 23mil total, 3mil pc
horizon: 24mil total, 3,7mil pc
tlou p1: 370k pc
spider man (remastered): 1.5mil pc, original game 30mil+ total

steamies don't like snoy slop, this is a fact
there are few exceptions tho, like helldivers for instance, maybe stellar blade when it drops, gran turismo 8 (since it's a live service game now there's a 99% chance it will have a pc release too)

I ain't buying it for Sony games

Best hardware, make great games and sell 3rd party games.
Steam only sells 3rd party slop
MS can only sell on other stores
Nintendon't only makes slop for paypig pedos
Easiest win they've had in decades.

Cause people buy these consoles to play 3rd party games and live-service shit like Fortnite.

Must be why their profit margins are so low.

i am still comfy on ps4 i have hated fucking sony for years at this point so no upgrade for me

Go take your HRT and ack, PChomo.

Compared to what? Not everyone can cardboard for $100

sony is dea-

In Japan it is.
thegamer.com/evo-japan-finals-descend-into-chaos-due-to-overheating-ps5s-guilty-gear/

Good morning, sir

Japan

Hello roleplaying Jeet!

still on PS4

Gamers are a captive audience.
Im just going to say it buy an ebike and go out and drive on dirt roads you will make friends irl and loose weight

based fellow grass toucher
I was torn between buying tales of graces f remasterd or getting rings for the calisthenics park
I choose rings, best $20 I've ever spent

I'm surprised Xbox dying didn't translate into sales for Sony and they are still behind PS4, no wonder they are moving the goal post and saying their new focus isn't selling units high performance console gaming or what ever was the market they invented has reached its ceiling.

I feel the whole "high performance console" talk is huge cope in general, they're not gonna outsell Switch 1 or Switch 2. Anyone that grows up and actually gets money has little to no reason not to get PC if they're into gaming, even if they're into Playstation games because it's all coming to PC now.

I have a PS4 but i just play PC now

Not everyone can cardboard for $100

No one except for sony. Well, it's a $500 box but same diff.

$1 in 1997 is $2.02 now

literally lost over 100% of value and you are saying these numbers mean... anything?

P-Please be mad at Sony for something they haven't done yet!!!

Enjoy your $900 Scamtendo 2 and $90 gaymes!

pc filters normalfags

switch doesn't get the same games, it's not an actual alternative

xbox is xbox

Because we're back in the PS2 days again where Sony is the only console in town and in this world, any multiplat not on Switch(which is most of them recently) might as well be a Playstation exclusive as far as normalfags are concerned. The biggest disconnect that Anon Babble has is thinking that the average gamer cares a lot of about exclusives. They don't. Nearly all of their time spent gaming is on multiplats.

more than that, buying call of duty means FTC trial due to a possible monopoly
if you take fornite, fifa, cod and gachaslop away consoles are a net loss without live service games that generate infinite money
the same is kinda true for pc where people would rather pirate single player games and the top 5 is also just dota, cs, cod and whatever multiplayer slop
despite what everyone here might think the market has to bend to the average NPC drone consooomer

Yeah, Sony shouldn't have ported their games to PC, instead they got tricked by MS and now they must continue going after that money and hoping their MAU bullshit boosted by PC players manages to trick investors, and heck, maybe even port some MP games to Switch and get some users form there too.

ps5 has no ga AACK

this is really all there is to it

reminder that they managed to sell a 250 dollaridoos wii u gamepad to their paypigs

remove thos that you can play on ps4

Because we're back in the PS2 days again where Sony is the only console in town and in this world

Oh not at all. Sony is more irrelevant than ever before. Sure they have their cult fanbase who will buy anything but they can't sustain them no matter how many consoles are out there, that's why the software sales are so low.
On top of that with every multiplat that isn't unoptimized AAA garbage going to every system including the switch and them porting every exclusive they have to PC I can't even see the cultists taking this kind of abuse for much longer.

*Also on PC

I literally do this with my phone on Pc.
There are plenty of small games that are perfect in bead

I get it to an extent, people like to meme about the Switch 2 getting FF7 Remake but if people really like it, that's the sort of thing that can drive Playstation console sales when people want to play part 3 day 1 and it's still a timed Playstation exclusive. That seems to be Sony's strategy with their delayed PC ports too. They want people to play their games(which is why they have 0 drm) so that they buy a PS5 to play the sequels.

+15 or so physical games

Why would I do that.
So not PC exclusive? Bummer.

Hamaguchi already confirmed Rebirth and Part 3 are coming to Switch 2.
Square Enix has their own issues and can't go worrying about Playstation fumbling. Part 3 will launch everywhere simultaneously

Nintendo is the Apple of gam-

Part 3 will launch everywhere simultaneously

That's not how exclusivity contracts work. They are made years in advance.

I seriously doubt that it's working. Sure on PC you may have to spend more on hardware but at least you can actually play 1440p/4K native. The second you lose exclusives you become just like Xbox honestly. There's no real difference. And if everything becomes about profit line go up rite now every second then Sony will do the same shit, port older Sony games to Switch 2 like that's somehow supposed to convert users to Playstation.

Sony has always been the apple of gaming. The only people who n thought otherwise were their cult of a fanbase.

In theory it should work in their favor with how everyone is a consoomer and want to be day 1 on everything but jimbo utterly fucked them and his own strategy by pursuing GaaS, now they don't ahve any sequels or even those same GaaS that were supposed to entice PC players into getting a PS5.

PS5

900$ (800$ console + 100$ online) for 480p 35 fps and zero games

Xbox

850$ (730$ console + 120$ for online) for 360p 25 fps and zero games

Steam Deck

PC but with 50% performance for 90% price

Switch 2

470$ (450$ console + 20$ online) for 4k 60 fps for shitload of kino games

What makes you think Sony has exclusivity contract for Part 3 when SE already saw the writing on the wall and Rebirth's contract was for 3 months?

Yah I'm thinking you are high

that's why the software sales are so low.

No, software sales are so low because people are all playing live service games instead and you see this exact same thing on the Steam charts or Microsoft's storefront. That's not a Playstation exclusive, even that is multiplat. Even on Switch, the most popular games are multiplayer (Mario Kart/ Splat/ACNH), It's a repeat of what happened on PC in the mid 2000's where everyone played the same few multiplayer games most of the time. It's not AS bad because single player games can still sell decently well but live service games and especially f2p live service games are being played more. The latter being bad for Sony because you don't need PS+ to play free games online.

On top of that with every multiplat that isn't unoptimized AAA garbage going to every system including the switch

No, AA games like Expedition 33 aren't on it. You can try to spin this any other way but most GotY contenders haven't been on Switch these past few years nor are the other normalfag games like CoD and Madden. Even smaller games that popped off like Blue Prince aren't on Switch. The Switch just doesn't get many big multiplats right now and spoiler alert, this will happen again with the Switch 2 after the initial back ports. The Switch 2 will never be an alternative to PC or Playstation. Being a hybrid holds it back too much.

That's Eric for you.

And SE stated that that exclusivity contract is what's killing it.

It stands to reason that they probably got exclusivity for the whole trilogy upfront and Square used that money to invest back into the games.

Sony

What "killed" Rebirth is that it's an 100 hour sequel to a 70 hour game that greatly benefits from having played the 40 hour original game. The amount of time needed to even dip your toes into Part 3 is retarded. They could release it on every platform all at once and it won't sell well when you need to dump 140 hours bare minimum and buy 2 others games.

What killed it is making it a trilogy in the first place. Case in point: Final Fantasy 13.

Even on Switch, the most popular games are multiplayer

Some of the biggest are single player
nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html

multiplayer

MK8, ACNH, Smash, Pokemon S/V, Pokemon Sw/Sh, Mario Party, NSMB

single player

BotW, TotK, Odyssey because the counting cappy as multiplayer is a bit of a reach

There's definitely a multiplayer focus in what is bought. Don't try to claim Pokemon isn't multiplayer when battling and trading have been major parts of the franchise since gen 1.

A more full list:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games
The demand for single player games is huge and will remain so. There's tons of people who simply don't care about for anything multiplayer, either they don't like competitive gaming or they think it's boring.
Live service games gets huge numbers because of poor people and kids.

The 10 and 13 triologies were just fan service tho

Aren't the FF7 games actually gameplay focused, or are they just FF themed movies?

To your first point: gacha are going to kill PC gaming. They are infinite hour timesinks with young adult themes and gambling, with an aesthetic that all gaming-aged people love. Asking someone to settle down and play even a 10 hour movie game like Hellblade after getting dopamine overdosed on Pretty Princess Panty Quest part CMXIV Now With The P90 will be impossible.

Young adult themes

Paymon lost his diaper quest

The fire village are bitches against us beat their waifu/husbando leader and talk no jutsu

Your argument is flawed because it only counts box sales when the f2p multiplayer games are the biggest ones. Your fortnites, marvel rivals, apex legends etc. I don't care for multiplayer games, however this is the reality. The majority of games getting played are multiplayer that are either free or were bought on sale for cheap. Even most brand new multiplayer games know to release at around $40 max like Palworld and Hell Divers 2.
store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed

If you want to look at it through a Nintendo lens look at how successful Pokemon GO and the Pokemon TCG mobile game were. Then look at singleplayer focused series like Xenoblade that don't sell that well compared to how massive the install base of the Switch is.

Yeah, time is finite too. I've known people that got heavily into gachas and they basically stopped playing most other games because their time spent playing games was wasted on daily quests, whatever new gacha event dropped, and then interacting with the communities for those gacha games. At most they'd continue to play a live service game with friends on the side out of the social obligation.

Gaming is becoming increasingly bleak, f2p games(including gachas) are already having a massive impact on the market. That's part of the reason why we see these massive franchises continue to sell less. The other anon I'm responding to posted a link to Nintendo's sales figures for the new Zelda games. BotW sold 32 million copies, TotK in a post Genshin Impact world sold 21 million. That's a massive drop off despite the Switch install base growing much larger by the time TotK released.

it has a gameplay system that isnt smash attack to win even with some bosses but it revolves stagger system with obtuse retarded shit to stagger them or build up more damage with tifa, and retarded expanded "story" of nu og npcs like noctis asset swap being corneo goon