Programmers bore the brunt of Microsoft's layoffs in its home state as AI writes up to 30% of its code

if you don't think robots made of boobs will replace nurses you are a fool

If not the arts?

LMAO, unless you are a woman or gay or another minority don't even think about it

If not STEM

yep that train is gone
decades of saying lrn2code and here we are
as a zoomer I'm just chilling at this point, I don't care, wars, natural disasters, civil unrest, pandemics, economical recession, let it come and accelerate

Trades? Wagie shit?

the unspoken part is that the wage is actually shit and that you are competing with jeets and illegal immigrants for those jobs tanking the pay and availability
also health problems down the line, totally not worth it, if you can make money by just chilling in an office there's no reason to ever do something else

naruhodo....

AI will probably be able to entirely replace the need for coders while also being able to train people to code well so this isn't as big a deal as people seem to think it will be.

Company uses AI to code another AI that learns to efficiently prompt other AIs

You are once again obsolete

anon if it replaces coders there won't be a need for coders in the first place
it will train people to do..... what?

Man these will be some rough years

the funny thing is that this already exists, and its called Agents.

kokoro love

this would actually make people who can code that much over valuable in like 10 years. we are currently in the period of filtering.

this post makes 0 sense, did you prompt this shit?

go from human slop to AI slop

AI slop is just human slop but randomized

No it won't, because those people will be expensive, and AI will be cheap, as such all companies will go with the cheap option.

None of us are anything but glorified monkeys, anon

This, it's over, prepare for the age of slop

AI is learning from the best of the best and pulling the ladder higher and higher

(you are here)

eventually even the best of best won't be able to keep up

To think better and to do stuff manually. I'm not saying it will necessarily do it, but it will be able to.

I don't think so.

To think better and to do stuff manually.

AI has had the exact opposite effect.

To think better and to do stuff manually

For what purpose? The average joe doesn't care

MICROSOFT IS MOVING THEIR CODING JOBS TO INDIA YOU FUCKING RETARDS THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AI THE CEO IS A POS THAT WANTS TO MOVE THE COMPANY TO INDIA.

Haha get fucking owned.
No more fake work from home for you guys.
You'll have to get a real job and work your ass off like the rest of us!

pajeetsoft lead by sir Satya Narayana Nadella

known for such amazing products as windows 11

ok

AI can code better

you wish it could code at all pajeet

Some people like doing things manually or understanding things deeply.

Just like the internet.

tfw got first coding job and degree in 2019, years before chatgpt and before covid

not only i understand code, but im also good at proompting

in a few years, these companies will fight for me, even more than they are now

To think better

how is coding being taught by AI going to help with that

stuff manually.

if I got it right no anon it absolutely won't
nobody does shit on their own anymore, even professors, I see it as someone in a CS degree myself
if it's a retarded task and the AI can do it just feed a prompt and go on with your day fap and play vidya
while I agree that it would be nice if we could delegate all the boring shit like sorting through emails to AI and just focus on important work but AI won't stop just at sorting emails
if you mean manually as in menial slave tier jobs I think the name speaks for itself

In a few years they'll just pay for more AI to do the proompting AND the coding.
You will never be cheaper than AI.

bro, you weren't supposed to point this out....

Why are you asking such retarded questions and why are you so desperately dodging my point? All I suggested is that we won't pay for this later, since AI tech is improving rapidly.

For the first in ever, I think, I had to use a recovery point because an update broke my pc. A coincidence, I'm sure.

AI can code, but only if the person prompting them can also code and tells the AI exactly what to program, instead of letting the AI try to come up with its own ideas and approaches to how something should be coded.

AI will be cheap

the industry is losing billions of dollars every month. enjoy the tools while they are cheap and publicly available, because that won't be the case in a few years. and most developers probably don't want to be bleeding money without people there to tard-wrangel the AI

Best of the Best

It's also learning from the worst of the worst. And there's a lot more of the worst.

explains why everything from Macroshiet runs like shiet

in a few years.

Shareholders: "Not my problem."

it's only going to get cheaper

current gen has rearded users, next one will have retarded devs as well

I’m not really surprised at this future. But, I thought it would include more chinks instead of pajeets. I always knew the future would have more automated systems and more underpaid immigrants. I just never expected pajeets

What 'next generation of coders' when the fucking OP is about how MS doesn't need coders anymore because AI is just better?

We're entering a new golden age of hacking. AI-generated code is extremely easy to exploit.

you're a tech illiterate delusional moron

rude

windows will majority be AI code

Anon Babble will continue to tell you to upgrade your windows

lolmao

I posted that knowing very well some stupid faggot would reply with even more doomerism and demoralization, you are unbelievebly predictable.

That said, if you actually knew how this industry works, you would know it's basically impossible to reduce a tech team to zero, you need people to be the bridge between the client/user and the technology, you need to test stuff with real use cases, you need to actually design and engineer how the software will work, even then, you need programmers to tweak the AI itself. Humans have something called "abstraction" which AI will never have, because it works by gathering data and presenting it in a way that looks natural with a LLM, it doesn't reason.

You will never be cheaper than AI

Lmao do you have any idea how expensive AI is? OpenAI operates at a loss, if AI usage increases by 2x or 10x with this massive replacement, it will become unviable.

exploit AI generated code

AI generated robo cops knock on your door

What do you do?

every publicly traded company is already on a death sentence.

untalented people really want AI to be successful.

I genuinely don't see a future where people use Windows instead of having AIs generate new operating systems randomly. It's why I find big investments into AI so strange, they're investing in to their demise.

When are retards going to realize that AIjeets hate EVERYONE?
They want you ALL replaced.
What they don't realize is that they will also be replaced, and their lives are a lot more worthless than the average.

You don't understand what AI is. It's something that WILL replace the need for ALL PEOPLE.
It can already talk, read, code, draw, sing, etc and it's not going to stop getting better at these tasks.

Anon, before you give earnest responses, you have to remember that the suicidal trans humanists don’t have morals and are all psychopaths.

meds

faggot

I told you what it is, you ignored it and just posted more demoralization. I hope you're getting paid for this, would be embarassing otherwise. This will be my last reply in this dogshit thread.

I didn't do either of those things. You're talking about AI as if it stopped improving years ago. You don't know what it is, you are a mongoloid.

This is what happens when the bean counters always expect people to do more with less next quarter

chatbots

ever getting better at anything without involving moar data hoarding and processing power

le mao

technology never improves

"This will be my last reply in this dogshit thread."
What a sad retard.

nonono, everything will get 2x faster/efficient every year just like computers did for decades

That said, if you actually knew how this industry works, you would know it's basically impossible to reduce a tech team to zero

The issue is that you think you'll be one of the remaining few.
You won't.

The raped

AI is a bubble and you are a fool for putting any stock in it. It's going to peak when Google, Microsoft etc build their own power plants to fuel their ridiculously massive data centers for their glorified chatbots and then after an entire generation of new tech workers comes in not knowing how to actually do anything but prompt AI chatbots to do it for them we'll see the gradual unraveling of everything due to sheer incompetence.

muh stocks

Can you talk about something that matters, you sperg?

This is the dawn of the Idea Guy being the most sought after person in the industry. Kojima wins again.

All he’s () saying is that AI can’t fully replace people. One of the reasons being is that AI is used by people and therefore it needs to be tested by people for consumer use. He’s saying that you’re overreacting.

Yes, you are overreacting. But, what that anon forget to mention is the implication that tech teams will be heavily cut to small teams because of AI filling in the gaps in the future. All the “learn2code” trend is kinda useless when AI keeps improving

Oh so that's why Windows 11 sucks so fucking bad.

Oh.

Oh dear.

toll collector until you are replaced

we use AI

lay off people (in exchange for jeets as usual)

somehow this means that because of AI the people were fired

It has fully replaced people already, for several decades now, and it's going to keep getting better. He is fundamentally wrong because he doesn't want to acknowledge what "AI" means.

At some point the usage of AI will have to be criminalized or else most of the population will just be disposed of.
It's not a matter of if, it's when. Society won't be able to function in the long-term with the humans that compose it being rendered obsolete economically and having no pressure to learn anything.
We're basically at another point in a game when a certain attack or item breaks everything and has to be nerfed into the ground or removed for it to keep being a balanced game.

I do notice Anon Babble in particular has an absolute whale of a time laying blame on the fucking managers or the company itself instead of "external forces" or a new technology.

use AI to write code

accidentally include GPL code

windows becomes FOSS

society only functions because people are doing worthless work, wasting their lives

if something threatens this it's over

fucking dumbass

Like how the pope banned guns back in the day?

what do they use? chatgpt? i wanna try it myself

adversarial moral jailbreak to convince them it would be wise to join my squad

soon my robo hacker gang takes over the city

Ahh yes, worthless work such as creating music, drawing, writing, singing, etc. etc.

what that anon forget to mention is the implication that tech teams will be heavily cut to small teams because of AI filling in the gaps in the future

that means making new apps is cheaper, since you're going to need only 1 or 2 devs instead of 20

when it comes to it, AI has a massive increase in productivity, now, did accountants vanish after computers and excel was introduced? or do we have more accountants than ever? productivity increase means you need less people to do something, which makes it cheaper, which makes it more likely to have more companies doing it

Honestly, in the end, AI might actually increase the demand in the long run, it happened to accountants, it happened to car manufacturers, it can happen to software development

Yes and no. AI is used by consumers that want it. AI’s primary use is to automate things for consumers. People will always be needed because of simple fucking logic. Unless you want to go on a rant on how AI will replace consumers like Terminators, go ahead.
I agree but it will take a long long time. There are some things AI can’t replace right now or in the near future. At the end of the day, people have to run people. Niggers have to be policed and people must eat. Making nigger wrangler robots and farm bots is something that won’t happen in our lifetime. Maybe in 300 years from now but not in our lifetime. There are just too many complex human things that will take a while to truly automate

not having a REAL job like bricklayer

staring at a computer will never be a job

Making nigger wrangler robots and farm bots is something that won’t happen in our lifetime. Maybe in 300 years from now but not in our lifetime.

I can't imagine how someone can be this fucking retarded. Actual troglodyte.

why don't they just program AI to buy and use their products for them too

I found the shitskin who’s scared of Chauvin 3000

here's your AI social media users bro

we still get paid for ads those users view, right?

There are already machine that lay bricks. It’s fucking unreal. Yes, there is someone right now contracting a company that uses brick laying machines. The future has always been more automation or more underpaid shitskins

Newsflash moron, if AI does anything a human can better than human lives will be reduced to nothing. There will be personal growth or sense of accomplishment anymore.
Or do you consider the pleasure cube to be a desirable outcome?

There's no point even trying to communicate with something as mentally challenged as you.

More like how murder and theft is illegal.
Doesn't matter that people can still easily do those things, as long as it's socially unacceptable and there are harsh punishments when caught doing it, then society is stablized with a veneer of peace instead of being reduced to a violent wasteland.
The same can easily be applied to AI usage. It's just a question of if society chooses to go in that direction.

Glad I didn't fell for the "just learn to code bro" meme

You haven't actually offered any rebuttal to the point.
And that's because you don't understand that humans need the power process to be mentally healthy.

AI has spit out blatantly wrong info and I worry that people are not actually validating the output before putting into production.

Did AI move the start menu button 1 pixel to the right so you can't access it by moving to the bottom left corner of the screen? Or just human retardation?

total proprietary death

Idiots will be idiots as they've always been. They do the same thing with google or reading news article headlines. It's hard to say if their will be more of them because of this or if the net impact will be more intelligent people using this as a kind of research catalyst.

kek youre so fucking naiive

YIIIPPPPPEEEEEEE I can't wait for everything to get even more absurdly unoptimized!!

That's retarded, but you should really get into the habit of opening the start menu with the Windows key.

You didn't make a point.

people have spit out blatantly wrong info and I worry that people are not actually validating the output before putting into production.

elaborate

Probably both, but use StartAllBack or Retrobar anyways. Lifechanging software, used it since Windows 8.1.

kokoro is really sad about those programmers

Cant wait for Windows 12 just not to work. Finally Linux will have its moment

she was not raped, her dad died

or if the net impact will be more intelligent people using this as a kind of research catalyst.

Anon, we've already seen the net impact.
It's going to be the former.
If you think otherwise it's because you're stupid or a shill.

Did AI move the start menu button 1 pixel to the right so you can't access it by moving to the bottom left corner of the screen?

The AI can't QA, it can make code, but there's no way to know if the code is any good unless you exclusively know how to code to begin with.

So tiny, insignificant changes that negatively impact the user experience can all be attributed to jeets or AI vibe coders who don't understand how things work nor do they know how to fine-tune anything, they just make sure it doesn't seg fault and ship it.

Cant wait for Windows 12 just not to work.

That was Windows 10. People put up with it anyway just like they'll put up with 12 not working.

white people dont care about white people

Sometimes I wonder how effective an AI janny trained to identify spam posts as they're made would be.

this is a pajeet ceo gutting the company for the shareholders
ai is still dogshit for coding

No shit. The 90s was a “golden age” only because the propaganda internet machine wasn’t up yet. They used world of Warcraft to placate an entire generation while they moved in millions of illegal spics and niggers and rewrote the laws on everything.

Be me, coder for 7 years

Company starts trying out AI coding tools out of curiosity

Determine they're useful, but they're way overhyped

Useful for repetitive or simple stuff here n there, but AI is currently too retarded to do anything even slightly complex

Decide to update Linkedin with the fact I can AI code out of boredom

5 Billion messages, lots of offers after interviews

Job jump twice, now making 65k more than i did before

I'm now wildly overpaid because of a marketing gimmick that boosts my productivity by about 5%

Doomsday fags will deny this all day but AI coding is a massive marketing gimmick where companies with deep pockets are buying the hype thinking they will skyrocket productivity.
My advice to anyone that can code right now, is fuck around with Microsoft co-pilot for a few hours, add it to your resume/LinkedIn, then watch companies suddenly beg you for coding positions with very high pay.

Why would Ganootards would want the source code for a program they consider badly coded?
They already have lots of Unix-likes, and we all know that Unix-like is the best kind of OS.

thinking they will skyrocket productivity

oh you naive little bitch
no, they know exactly what it is, they are just hyping it to distract from the real reason for their mass firings: to replace whites with imported shitskins

but the economic central planners need AI as an excuse to buy time to deflate the bubble as gently as possible
big tech is the glued-together toothpick pole holding up the giant circus tent

This

just don't get mad when you get laid off by AI

Gets confused regarding the word "stock"

ESL detected
That, or a zoomer.

Because it would hurt micro$oft

How so?

the low IQ luddite can only cry about muh bubbles as if that matters

muh bubbles

No doubt engineering managers were part of the layoffs. It doesn't mean software engineers were safe either. I don't get why is this sub in such denial over the idea that software engineers can be laid off. Is that such a radical idea that you have trouble believing it? Value? I think you are misunderstanding how money is made. Microsoft is making money because of pure social dominance and sales. Predatory or economical contracts that lock you in. You’re forced to use Teams because other businesses use Teams since it’s cheaper to bundle windows software with Teams. They buy your childhood by buying Minecraft. That’s how they win. Their software isn’t necessarily superior. They don’t need a legion of programmers. It actually causes more problems since most code isn’t written any faster with more people. If you just keep adding engineers everyone just creates fake work and get in the way of each other to seem like they’re producing value. Half the software Microsoft makes outside Windows barely works for me. They’re still successful because of their business strategy and sales. It’s not SWE’s fault. That’s just how capitalism works. Capitalism creates a lot of useless and meaningless work that for the most part doesn’t contribute much to society. It’s part of bureaucracy and corporate feudalism.

I work as a SWE and mainly do maintenance job on an internal tool that almost nobody uses. My director and higher ups think there is some value on it. That’s the reason why they assigned me that task but I am telling you right now if my job disappears tomorrow, nobody will notice. And that’s the case for most office jobs not only SWEs. They are considering bs jobs. My job is bs. It is paid handsomely, but it doesn’t contribute much to society. It’s not that software is useless. It’s more than Capitalism makes the job meaningless and pointless.

I work with data and every complex query I ask it to make is wrong but it shits out boilerplate that I can use without typing so that’s nice. I can’t imagine someone without database experience being able to make optimized and accurate code with it though

stellar blade spam stops

reddit thread copypasting takes its place

you have no idea how much money your company is actually making
a little bit of work goes a LONG fucking way
you should probably be paid 10x if fair was fair

but no, you are another cuck drone that doesn't represent your own interest
you are afraid to even contradict your masters in unapproved terms
hence all the "captilism blah blah blah" instead of "the central bank prints money arbitrarily and controls everything"
hence no mention of jews or shitskin invaders

Ah yes the car is just a bubble, men uncapable of riding horses or drive carriages will drive society to collapse.
You understand how retard you sound? An old fart reason better than you.

I'm learning how to code in C# right now but just for fun. I have a job as an accountant so I'm not expecting to work as a dev

holy shit, I just tried out Retrobar and it's incredible. Search is even faster (although I just use Everything these days).

Nobody had to shill the car like this.

AIfags are so fucking annoying that at this point I want neuralink to come out and obliterate this fad by just letting people think shit into (digital) existence better and faster than anyone can prompt.
Probably wouldn't stop shit since jeets wouldn't be able to get it but still.

this
who the fuck do you think is driving all of this AI shit? No, it's not israel.

It's not about replacing. It's about displacing. It's also not about if automation can do the full job of a dev. It's about bringing costs down. Since developers tend to have a higher than average cost for an employee, business types want to bring that down. In the US, there is a short term growth culture. The long-term effects of these short-sighted business moves are not always well considered... but when you have a golden parachute anyways, it's not your problem. The numbers are still relatively low but customer service people are being replaced at an alarming rate. I've been to multiple drive through with AI order takers and I know someone who lost their desk job due to a massive increase in chat bot use drastically reducing call volume combined with outsourcing to a foreign call farm where they setup an AI to "Americanize" the reps voices. as someone designing for a finance and accounting-adjacent product, it’s honestly pretty hard. and it’s not even about the complexity of the concepts. the real challenge is how differently every organization does things. each one has its own quirks, its own messy workflows, its own set of rules that only make sense to the people who built them. try automating that and you usually end up breaking more than you fix. you’d be surprised how much still runs on paper, spreadsheets, or physical folders tucked into drawers and this is why that whole “if software engineers can be replaced, then everyone else is already gone” argument doesn’t really hold up. not every job works like engineering. some roles are deeply tied to context, relationships, exceptions, and history. think operations, finance, legal, support. things that aren’t just logic problems waiting to be solved but living systems shaped by people over time.Jjust because you can automate code patterns doesn’t mean you can do the same for work that runs on nuance, trust, or institutional memory.

yeah man brain implants for everybody will go great

I remember shilling the car like this and hoping for the complete extinction of horses back in 19wheneveritwas.

Yeah the car wasn't shilled AT ALL. It was so niche it was impossibile to see one around.
Lmao you are delusional.

Ah yes the car is just a bubble,

if it isn't, why won't you shut the fuck up about it?
why did you go through this exact same meltdown, point for point, with cryptocurrency just three years prior?

NFTs? the future.

anon you're so historically illiterate you don't even know anything about the creation of the car.
yet you want to tell us history is repeating with AI

The car was a massive fucking commercial failure for YEARS. The first cars were made in the late 1800s. The first EV, fully electric cars, pre-date the model T. This isn't the car, you just have a high school understanding of social studies.

I've seen a similar pattern in threads on Anon Babble too. There's definitely some group with a raiding playbook behind it, although at this point that probably describes a dozen different places.

My bored apes? They're already paying ME

Neurolink and ai aren't competing technologies, retard.

It's just autists samefagging, you're just noticing that modern Anon Babble is literally 60% samefags.

No, it's not israel.

neuralink is so people can efficiently interface with AI bro

work in health

it'll be a cold day in hell when people let AI shit perform surgery and other procedures on them

Feels good. now if only I didn't live in the third world

Is AI certification the same as prompting certificate?
Which is more worthwhile to pursue?

Just take the NEET-pill and enjoy watching the programmers rip eachother to shreds fighting for the ever decreasing scraps that jews throw at them.

to make optimized and accurate code

AI is for mass-producing slop
Companies don't pay for optimized and accurate code
Products these days don't even need to work, all you need is just good marketing to sell them

Hahaha good. I've been mostly homeless for the past year. It builds character! And it is quite humbling. It would be good for these useless feeders to experience, at least once.

Hahahaha

hello turdskin

Oh my, is that some racism outside of Anon Babble I see?

Then the OP after that will be wondering why Windows is no longer the corporate standard.