MYSTERY NIGGAS
Deltarune thread
Mystery Man CANT be Gaster, it would be really fucking weird and out of place if some human was the royal scientist of fucking ASGORE.
People really didnt think this through did they.
PSYCHO NIGGAS
BUSINESS [[Neighbors]]
DOG NIGGAS
Is that a cut on your face or part of your eye?
The gash weaves down as if you cry.
The [WAIT] itself is reason why.
Gaster isn't a human, he's pretty clearly a skeleton.
SLEEPY ASS NIGGAS
JEWISH NIGGAS
DARK NIGGAS
BUFF NIGGAS
BROKE NIGGAS
BAROQUE NIGGAS
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PARMESAN NIGGAS
plays the gaster theme in reverse when disappearing
dude...
FAMOUS NIGGAS
LITERALLY TWO NIGGAS
RACIST NIGGAS
CURVACEOUS NIGGAS
Shut up Buzz, I'll kill you
Finding good porn of the humans is a nightmare, I don't wanna have to dig through random twitter accounts, keyword searches that flag a whole bunch of shit (because their names are just actual words or common names), and AIslop
NIGGERS
NINETEEN-TWENTIES NIGGAS
Love me some fucked up looking Gasters. Love when they get super incomprehensible.
sometimes i forget that we're only 2/7ths of the way through deltarune, not counting the theoretical chapter headers found in the file
there is still a lot more to go, think of all the ways out lovable cast can break before we get to the end
ASIAN NIGGAS
Mystery Man is a skeleton.
He was obviously some kind of monster before the "accident" probably a skeleton, maybe something different. Maybe he's actually an egg and cat fused together, who knows.
What do you like, anon?
What's the most:
Kris song you can think of:
Susie song you can think of:
Noelle song you can think of:
Ralsie song you can think of:
Schizo boss song you can think of:
Gaster song you can think of:
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eager to finish deltarune then kill myself because i wasted my youth WAITING only to be left with a void in my heart and some message about touching grass
This place could use some work
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SAD NIGGAS
In the year 22XX at the end (or perhaps I should say START) of Chapter -1 Gaster WILL step out of your computer screen and rape (You)
AFFECTIONATE NIGGAS
I wonder how long the remaining chapters will take
4 more years?
MYSTERY NIGGAS REVEALED NIGGAS
So as long as the basket says that there are more eggs than usual everything is good, right?
Chapter 5 will probably come out in 2026.
And once again
Jewish niggas
me with femkris, toby fucked up hard not making them more androgynous
Chapter 3 secret boss isn't Woody, it's Buzz Lightyear. Not a Buzz Lightyear expy, but genuinely just Buzz Lightyear—the one from the latest movie (the one that flopped), specifically. Toby actually bought the rights from Disney because the movie sucked and they were never going to use anything from it again. It follows with the whole 'discarded' theme the superbosses have going on, and in this case it's about parts of a story that are stricken from the broader narrative due to poor reception.
have you even TRIED any boorus?
Here you go mr skeltal
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Stop this, Gaster doesn't rape, he asked for consent before mindfucking you to oblivion
NIGGAS INSIDE ME
Deltarune burgerpants concept art for no reason
Gee i wonder who friend is
both cats
it was under our noses the entire time
they're white, but specifically as viewed by japanese people
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After Jockington grows the beard, he will get on a bike and leave for California to cheat on Catti on a filler storyline completely disconnected from the rest of the game.
CHADgerpants!? I kneel to thee master of picking up CHICKS...
Source?
You know who else was a cat?
Whenever I rewatch Twin Peaks I always skip that story line.
mewmew
damn i cant believe pezzapants is not just mike but also friend
It's from the "playing chapter 1 for some reason" stream
THICK NIGGAS
chapter 5 will be a solo dark world where kris is a civil war general
what if the quirky secret boss of chapter 3 FUCKING SUCKS?
Happi kitty
I don't think anyone has watched those parts willingly since 1991 unless they were watching it in syndicated reruns.
What if someone opened a darkworld on Alphy's h-game collection and Kris Susie Noelle and Ralsie had to defeat dozens of lewd challenges to close the fountain and escape.
AAAAAA WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN
gaster obvious looks like this and I've always found it weird the way people ran with the thing that isn't even meant to be discernable
Holy KINO
the actual mew mew will be forever tarnished by mad mew mew
lust provoking image
Shut the fuck up Alphys, I'm glad the magical girl genre got taken over by madoka clones, GO FUCK YOURSELF
shut up alphys
Fuck you, she's a slim beauty.
So it's like, a cat skull right?
Krisriel
Papa Gasta's wonky belly nipples ain't THAT hot bro
How do mysteryman deniers explain this?
It doesn't mention the cut ABOVE his right eye. Checkmate mysterymanists!
the poem is about chara
So we all agree mad mew mew and mettaton are all the proof needed to show that the only possible endings are some version of a light/dark merge or the whole town living in the dark or some other form of permanently adding magic to then world right? He would never leave to characters outside of their most popular forms.
always struck me as a cross between a turtle and a wolf skull
This is my favorite goon artist for the humans. Maybe you will like it, anon.
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knightkrisCHUMPS will get destroyed in 3 weeks
You're saying there's gonna be a.... dimensional merge?
They're reddit contrarians.
Alphys gets stuck in yuri darkworld
Noelle and susie still having trouble regularly talking and cant call each other a couple
For some reason they have to ask alphys something but she was sick that day (Officer undyne acts as the substitute teacher during class and its a funny scene), so they go to her house after school
They get trapped in the yuri dark world and Alphys acts as their relationship guru and helps them become a true kawaii couple
In dark world Noelle and Susie find out that Alphys wasn't actually sick, just depressed
They help her with her depression or something
Maybe Kris also comes along and you can go the [Awful Third Wheel route] or the [Matchmaker route]
Public shaming and beheading of FRIEND INSIDE ME in 2 weeks
Speaking of Alphys and Mew Mew, I've noticed something interesting. What could be a significance of this? Is this foreshadowing or self-deprecating humor?
Alvin knight bros where we at
is deltarune really as good as undertale?
Could you imagine those two getting the "you will never not be a ghost" treatment? Anons will be calling him Based for decades
... on opposite day.
When is Chara ever associated with "pain?"
See I was thinking more tentacles and goblin rape squads.
Why is he called MAN then? Did Sans Undertale and Papyrus Undertale get called man at some point and I dont remember? This is Tobias the Spinning Fox and his language autism we are talking about here.
It's a parallel to Undertale/Deltarune. Undertale is Mew Mew 1, Deltarune is Mew Mew 2.
Because he's a male skeleton.
kris gets stuck with ralsei in the incest district
I think Mysteryman is what Gaster looked like while he was getting split across time and space. His actual apperance now is possibly non-existent, like he got split into so many pieces you can't even fathom how he looks.
Let's say this - so far Undertale is Problem Sleuth and Deltarune is Homestuck, but we're still on act 2. So far things look great, but it may very well crash and burn in future.
My baseless theory is that this is three lines each from FRIEND, Dess and Gaster. "Is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye?" talks about the line going from the top. It's from FRIEND, asking questions and being uncertain like in the Valentines Letter. "The gash weaves down as if you cry." Dess brings in the emotions because she knows what it's like. Talks about the line going from the eye to the mouth. "The pain itself is reason why." He gives his answer to both. This is what I think
Kris (pacifist/neutral)
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Kris (Weird/Genocide)
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Susie
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Noelle
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Ralsie
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Schizo Boss
Jevil
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Spamton
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FRIEND(?)
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Gaster
I know, but is he saying that Deltarune is going to be more mature and adult, or is he mocking people who expect Deltarune to be dark and edgy Undertale?
It's commentary on how long running franchises change direction with time, and how fans are entitled jerks for complaining or something like that.
And Toby is wrong, UT Alphys has the better opinion because the earlier installments must usually have preference over later ones. If you want something different, make a fully new thing.
What we got so far is mostly better, but we're still only 2/7nths of the way through Deltarune.
There is a billion ways shit could go wrong.
he got split into so many pieces you can't even fathom how he looks.
When is the Miku x MadMewMew crossover Toby?
Sans talks" i stopped trying to go back home a long time kid"
And there is a photo/drawing of 3people in the lab with the broken machine, deltarune is the origin point
I was in the mood to start working on one of my writing projects and went to put on some music in the background, and on a whim I chose a big playlist of undertale au music and put it on shuffle... all of my creative energy left my body within a couple minutes just listening to how ass they were.
okay yeah just change the soundfont to whatever fits the new theme, don't bother to tweak it after it'll surely just naturally sound good
and then go and just sprinkle in some quotes of other boss themes without much rhyme or reason, whichever sounds coolest
Is this really what kids have been listening to this whole time?
Buried by a mountain of Kris Knight evidence.
Your boy doesn't even have a talk sprite.
You will eat those words.
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The former, this dialogue was made before we even knew what Deltarune was.
Alphys brings Mettaton, Frisk and MewMew to her favorite convention
Preparing for brutal execution for believing a reddit theory in 2 weeks.
It's a joke about peoples favorite season of shows being the one they watched first.
kris knight
alvin knight
explain how either of them could've created the supply closet/ spare classroom fountain
pro tip: you cannot
only alphys or toriel could have without causing suspicion, and i'm betting money on alphys fucking everything up again
The word "Man" is presumably reserved for Gaster. The only times you ever see somebody/something described as a "man" is when you're examining something you can't directly see on screen.
in the true lab room covered in fog in Undertale("There's something here... Something in the shape of a man."")
behind the tree in deltarune ("Well, there is a man here.")
in a car in the light world ONLY after you obtain the egg from the man behind the tree in the dark world (There is even a man inside this one... He waves happily.)
I just want fat cat tats
Shit lesbian ships:
ALL OF THEM, FUCK YOU TOBY RAAAH!
GIVE ME MY RECONNECTED CHILDHOOD FRIENDS, WITH OPTIONAL MINDRAPE OVERTONES!
To be fair, it wouldn't be the first time when Toby did predictive meta-humor.
TOBY PLEASE
I like this one
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He is not THE knight but he made the chapter 4 fountain
spamton also says that 'the man's a criminal'
most people assume he's talking about tenna, but as a schizo it could be more than that
Hey this is my theory too! I've never seen anyone else suggest it before.
It's a riff on how the magical girl genre has been oversaturated with more "mature" series since Madoka got popular. More works attempt to "subvert" or "deconstruct" the hopeful optimism and positivity of classic magical girls by adding more "realism" or just making it edgy by having the girls suffer a bunch.
Keep in mind that Madoka was never a "deconstruction", it was just a darker take on mahou shoujo and ultimately ended up being about optimism. But the outside perception was that people thought it was good because it was "realistic" and "edgy" so the damage was already done.
The joke here is that Alphys Undertale is an oldhead elitist who loves the classics while Alphys Deltarune is a nu fan who thinks the darker take is a smart deconstruction
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me too, but it seems like todays topic is mewmew, susie, and shizobosses/gaster
Can you see it?
explain how either of them could've created the supply closet/ spare classroom fountain
Kris did it before the start of the game. Why couldn't he?
The doors would be locked
His mom is a teacher he could easily have access to the keys.
Good shit, but why the water themed songs with Kris?
the singular Catti/Kris story on AO3 posted one chapter of peak before being abandoned for years
Shane Dawsonbros... are you in the know? How do you keep going on?
Keep in mind that Madoka was never a "deconstruction", it was just a darker take on mahou shoujo and ultimately ended up being about optimism. But the outside perception was that people thought it was good because it was "realistic" and "edgy" so the damage was already done.
So, same deal as with Undertale creating an entire genre of "Earthbound-inspired indie games about depression"?
Kris made the fountains because they want to talk to Noelle's mom.
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now what
You know what comes next
Dark fur, not blonde
Trash
not Gyftrot
not Shub-Niggurath
not human
Meh.
Mostly a happy coincidence but it also meshes with the theory that Kris drowned at some point and was saved by DETERMINATION or Gaster or what have you, thus the water/ocean theming hidden throughout and the mystery involving the lake. I don't have any opinion on that particular take yet but I am positive the lake will play an important role in the story in some way.
So, same deal as with Undertale creating an entire genre of "Earthbound-inspired indie games about depression"?
Not the anon you were talking about but I really do wonder why people say "Earthbound-inspired" and not "Undertale-inspired"
Ah, of course anon
Spellbound by Kastek
Wouldn't Kris be more afraid of the Lake than the Bunker, then?
Noelle being some Gyftrot type thing would be so funny. Like imagine her trying to do typical mayor stuff and she would look badass as the knight. Plus, Rudy would be based chad for knocking that.
Why isn't she blonde? Rudy's hair is black so noelle has to get it from her.
It's because Undertale is still viewed as new in the internet cultural pool, even if it's been a decade. When my game finishes, I'm just going to say it's an Undertale-inspired RPG, straight up.
Deltarune would be way better if Noelle, and only Noelle, was like two or three years younger. Change nothing else.
Reminder that the weird route is Ralsei and Susie's fault.
Undertale is Breaking Bad
Deltarune is Better Call Saul
eggsplain
We can't really say because Deltarune isn't even a third done.
Scholar. If Susie didn't abandon Kris to go goof around at the carnival, none of this would've happened.
This unending pain...
It's insane for how prolifically autistic the UT/DT Fandom is, it's still managed to produce next to no fanfiction worth reading. Most of it is just the most... DOGSHIT stuff I've seen in all my years. What's the missing sauce?! How do the horses have their own SITE but THIS rot can't even produce a handful of good stories!
If Kris was supposedly saved by something or something, maybe he wasn't so fortunate in the bunker and had to face something there alone.
Ralsel for suggesting they split up for some reason.
Susie for for snatching ralsel away and leaving kris solo.
if either one was there then (you) wouldn't have gotten away with corrupting noelle because they'd stop it
Undertale/Deltarune still has a youthful fanbase, while the colorful pony show was watched by young adult dudes.
What's the most:
Kris song you can think of:
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Susie song you can think of:
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Noelle song you can think of:
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Ralsei song you can think of:
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Schizo boss song you can think of:
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Gaster song you can think of:
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sorry for using tally hall 3 times
Who the Knight is changes depending on the savefile, in slot one it's Kris in slot 2 it's Gerson, in slot 3 it's Carol and in the secret slot 4 if you complete a game in every other slot it's Gaster
It's been 11 years since UT...
Have they not aged? Was the rot too deep?
I'm just gonna put it out there for the thread: have ANY of you seen any writing worth reading outside of the odd greentext here and there? Genuinely curious.
gerson
anon he's dead. how'd that even work?
Asriel's money? No way I ain't stealing from my bro. The dykes' box of chocolates? You best believe I sold that shit me and my nigga Berdly gotta buy cotton candy.
The Knight is Undyne
ACAB
save-based plot fuckery
that could be neat but I think toby will stick to timeline cross-save shenanigans rather than arbitrarily having the save slot change key plot details like that
Mrs. Holiday needs constant eye bags due to overwork and depression
I really wish it was another couple of free chapters. It's been so long that I was employed with a promising life when the survey program was released and now I'm a neet.
I haven't looked too much into Undertale, but "Dammerung" on AO3 was a pretty good Deltarune fanfic.
YOU GET IT!
Wheres all the fanfiction? I've seen a couple of Kratti images and there is quite a lot of catti content in general at the moment yet theres barely any fanfics. I suppose it's because of how little we know of her, and in order for people to feel comfortable writing with her speech quirk they're probably waiting to see how toby handles it. Theres still plenty of crumbs to make into a story though, we've seen her family, her friends, some of her past, and connected her to Kris and Noelle, Even her and susie having a dislike towards each other could be good fic material. I've also noticed a lack of good Deltarune fics in general which saddens me, thats the BLOOD of game communities, thats how people turn games with even the most barebone story into beautiful masterpieces
Well she's the only monster in undertale that had natural determination.
Cont.
I know that on my end, pretty much the only things in DT I'd ever feel confident sharing as quality pieces are Incidence and Ghost of Christmas Never Spent, amongst a few other goodies here and there, and the first one isn't even finished and has been dead for over a year. Anyone else out there scouring the literature?
I got him confused with his son
You could try doing freecash or something to build up some cash. It's very tedious, granted, but as a neet, you would have a lot of free time.
Ghost of Christmas Never Spent
I remember that one! That shit was kino.
nta how does that work? those types of things always seem like scams that never pay out
I like this guy's stuff
archiveofourown dot org/works/42279180
Also a lot of good comics on tumblr. Goomy and hellspawnmotel off the top of my head
Instead, what route you're on will change key plot details. Because Gaster is DMing the campaign and has to adjust the story to your shenanigans.
easy to write better stories than mlp
not so easy to write better stories than toby
9. 99. 999.
if everything gets high enough
you become invincible
nothing can hurt you anymore
nothing can hurt anyone anymore
I can only hope more chapters help fuel the fiction in the future by developing and expanding on the characterbase. To be fair, the main cast is already PLENTY complex enough to warrant some good writing, and there's been some good writing even before CH2 released: Slow Animals - although not on the money - did predict some of the depth of Kris and Noelle, Incidence completely said "fuck canon" and did its own thing in a very interesting way while still feeling true to the characters, and "Ghost of Christmas Never Spent" is as good as a Slice of Life story where Kris tries to win over a LESBIAN while being a dong-holder can be.
All the Kris/Susie stories are dead in the water, none of them even close to satisfying conclusions.
Kris/Noelle has a few here and there, more than Susie these days thanks to CH2, but again none to name beyond what's been said.
All other ships? Start swimming, nigga, you're in the void (understandable, good crack is hard to pull off).
good point
This image is wrong, Susie is the real harem protagonist
You do surveys and play some dumb mobile gmes. It's very tedious and the site tempts you to pay for stuff to make the process easier. You withdraw with credit cards or Google Play or similar stuff to that. Don't expect instant cash.
also any fic would inevitably be compared to the source material
if it isn't up to the standards that sets, it'll feel underwhelming even if it's still a good story on it's own
All the Kris/Susie stories are dead in the water
there was that reverse stealing fic that ended up being added to the actual game, I thought that was pretty good. Also, I remember going through /sus/ stories archives and finding a ton of really great kris/susie stories, I'd recommend checking there if you havent already. (something happened to /Doe/'s archives so I cant help you there)
I'll check out those fics you typed
I mean, kind of and not really?
I've scoured their literature too, surprisingly crazy amounts of good shit in there even if you hate the colorful horses themselves, like things you'd never expect (like the best XCOM story in the entire archive, other than a special Viper Romance) one.
Good writing can come from anywhere and can bloom from any subject, no matter how retarded, and be good without comparing itself to the source material. UT/DR stories are best when they don't even try tackling the metanarrative shit, because books aren't the proper format for it unless you're fucking talented at what you're doing. The absolute LACK of ANYTHING major from both the UT and DR archives is honestly something that BOGGLES my mind, considering how up our own farts we get with how far we take theorization and constructing our own ideas of what's to come. I get it's easy spitballing and hard writing, but with so many of us how have we failed to produce? I don't think there's an easy answer, unfortunately, but I do love discussing it.
maybe we just live in different times
mlp had a lot of good fics, when it was popular a decade ago, i wouldn't assume it still is
what fandoms are still getting good fics now?
it was intentional.
ralsei VERY subtly hints to killing berdly in that chapter
susie actively benefits from your fucking up the timeline
kris THINKS he is free, but weird route kris is just another spamton NEO getting jerked around on a string.
Yeah, I've checked both the /sus/ and /doe/ archives, quite a few short and cute greentexts in there. Thanks, though. Do check out those reads when you can, I can recommend them highly: Incidence is more experimental, but it actually handles time/metanarrative elements very well. Ghost of Christmas Never Spent is just a fantastic character study of Kris and Noelle's relationship, while NOT sidestepping the fact she's a lesbian. Spellbound is just... well it laid the foundation for something great in a few K words and never went anywhere, a shame.
God, you gotta love a good book. Just wish we had more.
ralsei VERY subtly hints to killing berdly in that chapter
say what now?
Ho-ho! A soft cream is following you! Can we make them a bad guy?
Even Lancer's in on it.
Maybe the problem is just how young the majority of the fanbase is. Most fans who have the time and autism enough to create something for deltarune are teens, that's why you see so many awful schizo boss designs and lackluster fanfic attempts. I remember seeing a ton of art made by professional artists on artstation/tumblr when undertale was at its peak, you don't see a lot of people like that making art for deltarune now
Yeah, by now it's just goonerslop and wattpad-level garbage. The golden era is gone, but I get why for them: it's been over a decade and they've tapped every story idea and permutation there was. Nowadays, Anon (as a character) is honestly more common than not, as shitpost-with-effort stories have become popular. One author in particular is a god at it; ScrungusBungus. If you're ever in the mood to try something new and out there, try Unlimited Books But No Book in FIMFiction: space-amazon-slave Anon's Macrowave (yes, macrowave) links to the microwave of a small horse that steals his bacon burrito.
Deltarune doesn't have as many adult NEETs willing to dedicate time into creative endeavors just for fun.
do you ever imagine possible kino future moments?
It's possible, but I wouldn't out too much stock in the age: not all youths are drooling, mindrotted retards. So many of them have a creativity that hasn't been beat out of them or ground into cynical deconstruction, and I expect great things from them anyways; I mean, everyone on this thread probably isn't a spry chicken, and most of us aren't writing either. I've put a few things out there myself, but only short experimental stuff since being a job-haver does limit me a lot.
Maybe it's like another Anon said; the past era of fan-writing was just lightning in a bottle, and this is another example of just how gay everything has gotten compared to the past. This coming from one of those cynical farts I mentioned earlier.
What would be a good idea for a catti green?
earlier in the week someone mentioned that all the darkners you recruit could sacrifice themselves trying to stop the final boss
that could be kino
actually kek'd
finally confronting the Knight
no matter if he is Kris or someone else
Rudy's death
Dess's return
Flowey callbacks in the flower king chapter
Ralsei reveals/learns the truth about himself
Noelle kills Kris and absorbs the soul
Imagine if Dess was dead, but she's able to live on as a ghost in the Dark World.
find Dess
get to the Fountain
She has a heartful goodbye to both Kris and Noelle
The Fountain is sealed
In front of Noelle is Dess's sweater, stained with dust
He WILL fuck Catty AND Bratty, becoming Toby's polycule representation.
the past era of fan-writing was just lightning in a bottle, and this is another example of just how gay everything has gotten compared to the past
:(
some music track related to ralsei having the freedom leitmotif in it
or him having a shadow crystal
or the freedom motif showing up anywhere unexpected, honestly
not fighting ralsei though that'd be kinda meh
it'd be the guitar anon. guitar
Vaguely my thoughts on how the greater narrative is going.
Normal Route: You recruit people and save the day through the power of friendship. Quantity over Quality.
Weird Route(s): You focus all the XP gain into one or a few powerful monsters and turn them into truly strong forces capable of saving the world on their own.
Absolutely huffing copium that Toby has the balls to go with Weird Route or at least Aborted Weird (with the Thorn Ring, for example), being the greatest route in a practical sense. For example, a lot of Darkners and a few Lightners are lost, but Noelle gains the power to save the entire town without taking heavy losses like you would in the Normal Route. Hell, even Noelle developing proper magic in the REAL world to heal her father, to demonstrate how - though Kris used horrid methods to do so - his actions aren't just genocidal.
Do we even know if Deltarune monsters turn into dust?
Noelle strumming "Lost Girl" on Dess's guitar
AIIEEEEEEEE SAVE ME KINOMANNNNN
Gain control of the vessel
Do this in front of Kris
Monster Kid is surprised you're full of blood, which means THEY aren't. Also, burial traditions are to dust an object meaningful to them and bury it. These HEAVILY imply they dust upon death.
It also helps that all the kids and weirdos during Undertale had setting swap/role swap AUs and the Sans Phenomenon to latch onto, Deltarune doesn't have nearly as many popular AUs and its schizos, while immensely popular, aren't as Vriska-tier as Sans became.
Since Deltarune's an unfinished product that trying to make an AU is a difficult task outside of working within the limited confines for a role-swap (which DOES work in the moment as we've seen with ideas like Chapter Rewritten, but expect your shit to rework itself a lot if you want to capitalize on new information and characters), so instead everyone's opting for their own interpretations of upcoming chapters, especially because it's basically a vehicle for promoting your OC as the new wacky schizo boss of your take on Chapter 42069.
the freedom motif isn't a real thing
Kris joins in on piano
now that you're hooked let me continue further down my path of schizophrenia
Now that there is pretty much two weeks left, can we all agree that "Kris is the Knight" fags are the dumbest monkeys in these threads?
"Everybody bleeds, right?" means that Susie has blood as well
yfw Susie is a half-human, half-monster hybrid, which is why she has the unique power to piss on the narrative
This is just Uboa
kris knight no
kris villain yes
Noelle strumming "Lost Girl" on Dess's guitar
normal route: save the day with Kris, Ralsei and Susie.
weird route: save the day with Vessel, Lancer, and Noelle
All the normally-inaccessible dialogue such as giving late game ch2 items to Noelle is actually canon because you'll be able to send items back and forth between chapters
kris can't be the villain, the naming screen likes him
I think another human showing up as a real character will completely and utterly annihilate the fanbase. It is *so* fucking curious that we haven't seen another human yet despite the fact that DR's world is supposed to have humans, I really fucking hope Toby has some insane fucking shit in store for us.
Like imagine you're deep into Deltarune having your fun time and some adult ass man shows up out of nowhere.
uboa ur mom lmao
Im pissed, PISSED, that this is only a teaser, I NEED the full song!
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no. berdly is the key
normal route is kris, ralsei, and berdly because susie fucks off to take noelle to the festival. berdly being dead in the weird route is aggressively relevant to this.
yes gaster is based on an uboa pillow that became a darkner to toby when he had a fever dream
chapter 7
song titled "deltarune" plays
guitar song played by Dess herself
it's like poetry, it rhymes with UNDERTALE
Being perfectly honest, I consider the setting swap/role swap/Sans-gobbling AUs absolute cancer upon the fandom and the archive as a whole: THEY are the rotten garbage that fills the pages.
Swaps are fun for art pieces and short what-ifs, but a proper Fanfiction story doesn't NEED that much information and doesn't benefit from being so paper-thin. I think Deltarune should have MORE stories because - by Chapter 2 - it's already given plenty of insight into Kris, Susie, and Noelle, who are - without question - the central characters of the story alongside the mystery of Ralsei (though it's pretty obvious he's Kris' headband unless we're getting plot-twisted).
Incidence, a fic a mentioned earlier, is a perfect take on what I mean. There, Noelle goes with Kris into the Dark World instead of Susie, but she isn't just Susie reskinned; everything plays out differently, and the whole narrative doesn't suffer because the game isn't done. The author buckled down and MADE one where none existed, proper writing chops. It's... well I'm just yelling at the sky here; with so many fans, so intensely into these games, it's just a genuine confusion as to how the law of averages hasn't yielded SOME outliers by now.
it's an egg head.
Ch5 dark world where Asgore is with the gang
Asgore turns out to still be an excellent interrogator from his time as police chief and starts completely pulling Ralsei apart
"Kris, what's the earliest time the closet dark world could have opened? You said Susie took chalk from there daily?"
A day in the life of catti from when she wakes up to when she goes to sleep
Scott Cawthon WISHES he could elicit the level of schizophrenia in players that Toby is able to with Deltarune.
boobies
"I want a lawyer" Ralsei says
Asgore is fucked once again
>Asgore starts completely pulling Ralsei apart
Cawthon is quantity > quality
Toby is quality > quantity
Everyone in this thread is wrong, by the way.
we know
is this real?
Can you please tell Gaster to stop reading my search history?
Do the laws of the light world apply to the dark world?
I want to see asgore be cool
It's interesting that Spamton disables the Mercy button on weird route. I'm sure it's mainly to stop people from wasting time trying to do that, but it also feels like part of a broader trend of ch2 pulling out all the genocide callouts immediately
4 LEFT
But nobody came.
55 = LV
enemies running away
It's kinda like Toby wanted to clear out all the callbacks at the start so the rest of the route can be more original or just not having you waiting on other callbacks.
Only monsters have rights.
Oh ho ho don't worry my freshly-squeezed friend, Lancer, Attorney at Law is here!!!!
he was trying to make the noelle = chara connection as obvious as possible without outright saying it but people are dense
How many of you actually think the achievement
COMPLETE CHAPTER 3 WITHOUT ISSUE
Is a hint to "completing it without Susie"?
Susie feels like the most important character so this would be super strange, what would it even look like
Each chapter from 2 onward has a guest composer collab
If this ends up being the case, what chapters get what guests?
There is no audience.
We did not have a single "disappointing death" call back so far. Berdly is the closest but he is tougher and not a single plain hit death like Muffet or the others.
can't wait for frisk and chara to show up as kris's long-lost parents
weird route ends with a neo fountain instead of closing one. it's the hardest story-break to get because it completely decouples you from chapter 4.
I strongly suspect that Asgore's experience as police would come up somehow. It just seems like a big missed opportunity otherwise.
With Toby Cucks?! No way!
"I'LL KEK ASGORE A THOSAND TIMES BEFORE I LET THIS COMPANY DIE!"
"Angel of death"/"Demon that comes when people call its name" again?
post your bingo sheets.
it turns out Kris is actually their common ancestor in Undertale
when Asriel said he'd "reset everything back to zero" he didn't account for the fact he's literally GOD and applied his power so hard that it reset the entire fucking universe instead of just rewinding the timeline back to when Frisk first fell and giving it a clean slate
Deltarune is just a Post-Scratch Undertale that only happened because that version of the story didn't have a player, and THAT'S why Gaster wants to let us in to do... whatever it is he wants us to do
yes
People who think Asgore is only painted as this pathetic and uncool guy either have selective memory or just didn't play Undertale. He had a cool boss fight with a hype theme song and is framed as sympathetic even if you're allowed to find his actions reprehensible.
dess is the one pulling the strings
imagine if dess is one of the schizos and you have noelle in your party to fight her
then noelle sides with her sister and you have to fight both of them
It's simple: Kris isn't the Knight, whoever's ripping out the SOUL every Chapter is. We don't see what they're up to after the end of Chapter 1, but in Chapter 2 they do the exact shit we know the Knight to do: rip up Dark Fountains with a knife. Any and all questions that may arise from wondering why "Kris" is creating a Dark Fountain are resolved when you realize that this is the Knight's doing:
slashing their own mom's tires because they don't have a reason to care about Toriel's well-being
Opening the door to lure Undyne in so the Knight can also get rid of Hometown's sole line of defense
turning on the television, indicating that they have some knowledge of how the Dark World in Kris's living room works (which would be impossible for Kris because they evidently have no experience in the Dark World)
Also, speaking of plugging in the TV: if you check the public computer in the computer lab (obviously Queen), Kris notes that somebody turned it on. The Knight turned on Queen's computer so that Queen could be present to fuck with the gang, and they woke up Tenna for the same purpose.
ALSO also: when Seam describes Card Castle's history and how a "strange knight" changed up everything, "strange knight" is in RED. You know what's also in red? Picrel.
In summary, the Knight is the retard that keeps ripping out Kris's SOVL every night. If Tenna goes out and says that the Knight created this world, then I'm right. See you in seventeen days.
Frankly, "eggs-husband" did unquantifiable damage to his brand.
After chapter 4 will the people finally love Jockington?
I don't really get why people always compare the two (both made popular indies?) but I think Scott just isn't as interested in narratives and storytelling as Toby is with his games. The FNAF games have in-universe history and relevant events and settings, and things that happen as you play them, but they're first and foremost horror sims / experiences and "meaningful" stories second
no it's not dess, it's a darkner. remember toy story theory? a certain darkner with an emotional connection to dess is looking for her, because it loves her.
Where is asriel?
I seriously hope Asriel never gets involved in the plot and there's a gag near the end where finally gets home and he missed all the chaos.
snake
I do not trust any fandom to have love for snakes because it will lead to too much vore art
toriel loves shitty jokes
Replace the first letter of "Dess" with the first letter of "Noelle".
You're completely right, and I love the guy as a character despite the fact he's overly-villainized despite being an ultimately self-sacrificial tragic figure. However, there's no disputing the fact he's painted as a pathetic man who is still caught up in his love for a caustic woman who holds such unyielding hatred towards him that it makes you wonder whether he touched the kids in the middle of the night.
It's good at least most people see Asgore as a good man in-game. It's just so tiring seeing the poor guy take constant L's in the relationships he cares the most about when we KNOW he doesn't deserve that.
wtf is this real?
the very last scene of the game
The Roaring was prevented, ANGEL'S HEAVEN was banished, the balance is restored
Kris finally accepts that maybe you're more of a symbiotic benefit than a parasite
everyone calms down after all that crazy bullshit and heads home, deciding to delay the festival
back at Toriel's house there's a knock on the door
"Mom? Kris?"
it's a generic text sound so not even those who were holding out for what college-age Asriel would sound like get fulfillment
door opens for exactly one frame before the game immediately cuts to credits
Before Undertale, FNAF was THE viral indie game people made autism-level theories about. Then Undertale released becoming THE viral indie of all viral indies. Quite a lot of FNAF fans became hardcore UT fans(before going back to FNAF, and then some of them became schizo Deltarune fans)
It's the most poignant line ever written in a video game.
Doelle
Hell in German
eggs husband
You can just FEEL his fucking balls drop off in that moment
It's the first time I've ever felt genuine secondhand embarrassment from a fucking video game character, it was THAT good.
I'm betting Sans originally told Asgore that joke to cheer him up, but then Asgore thought that he should borrow that one because he saw that Toriel laughs at all of Sans's jokes.
I already love Jockington
and hypnosis art
There's almost too much Asriel-Kris buildup not to involve Asriel. Plus, it wouldn't feel so much like an UT character is crowding out the new cast because "adult Asriel" is still an unexplored concept.
egg inside me
That would explain why Sans turned away when the moment happened. He's shameful for indirectly causing it.
You should be bracing for the amount of TV head vore art that's about to drop
Dreaming of The Boy™
Why are people reading into this so much? It's just another example of how UT and DR versions of a chatacter are different, even just for incidental reasons like "the plot developments leading these two to meet in UT didn't happen in DR". She even mentions that she likes 2 better because she watched it first here.
For another example, Catty and Bratty don't like each other in DR even though they were friends in UT.
It's just evidence that Deltarune is Post-Scratch Undertale (or vice versa) because Toby can't help but repurpose Homestuck concepts in his own works.
sans turning away
deltarune is an offshoot of the undertale timeline before the first human
the monsters just murder everybody and settle down on earth
kris is the only survivor
Toby said achievements only unlock after changing rooms, and that if you were to close the game before that you might not get the achievement.
So what if you can end Chapter 3 in a way that force-closes the game, like Flowey does in Undertale? And then when you open it again you're already in Chapter 4?
Literally impossible unless this offshoot is one where humans are all equivalent to braindead vegetables and monsters became genius tacticians.
All it takes is ONE adult to have an outburst, and an entire troop of monsters drops dead from one stray hit each.
Historical archives in Undertale point out the fact that not a single human casualty was had in the war for a reason.
I consider myself very immune to cringe and shock. I've been through everything from extreme gore to shitting dick nipples without flinching.
But that had me cringing into my own ribcage.
noelle, this one right here
It's worse that he runs in from the entrance to blurt that out. Like hed been waiting by the door for his chance.
Woah... I just realized that Deltarune is Undertale spelled backwards.
Additonally, people thought Gerson, "The Hammer of Justice" was a badass JUST for surviving the war.
>COMPLETE CHAPTER 3 WITHOUT ISSUE
where did you get this?
Asgore deserved everything
I think there will eventually be some cathartic resolution where Kris talks to Asriel and the whole Dreemurr family gets a nice bonding moment. But I can't see him being heavily involved in the plot when he's an adult that's moving onto a new chapter in his life. He could have his own shit going on that we're not privy to and that's fine, because he's grown up. We should take comfort in his independence and not being able to know everything.
Also I just think it'd be nice if Asriel in Deltarune just got to live out a typical life after all the shit he's been through in Undertale.
asriel shows up when shit is going down and you're backed into a corner, takes about two seconds to process what's happening and just gives you an understanding nod, and jumps in to cover your back and you both fight on equal footing with sick ass synchronized combo moves
entire monster race lost to a child
kek
PS5 achievements posted by Toby himself.
elatrednu
NUTDEALER
"This is it Asgore, we'll make her laugh this time."
I still think weird route chapter 3 won't end in a normal way and go straight into chapter 4 somehow.
the wording being separate makes it sound like finishing the chapter without receiving damage than it being an anagram for susie
that being said would toby really make a reference to (possibly) weird route quite as obvious as this?
Divining from frozen chicken bones, anon?
You can only bring Noelle to the festival as your partner on Weird route, when she's so physically afraid of you she wants to cry but she can't say no
she starts crying
someone posted the JP version and it has nothing to do with susie, doesn't he usually localize meta stuff
God that would make me so hard
We were here first, sorry Susie.
The Doe likes being scared? Time to terrify her.
What is your favorite joke in the game?
chips ahoyeth
spamton does mention a broken home. I fear toriel is the next victim.
you can take her on the ferris wheel
you get a reprise of the scene with her and Susie, except it's an agonizingly slow and uncomfortable mental breakdown as she genuinely considers pushing Kris out the car to make it all finally STOP
Asgore (I'm going to kill myself).
I keep thinking about what some anons said about how the schizo bosses have a back out option before their fight
Jevil's door can be opened but you don't have to go in
Spamton can be downloaded but you don't have to put him into the robot
Makes me wonder what the next few bosess will have and what will be the consequences of freeing them but not fighting them
I mean spamton does still get neo form even in snow grave even if he is frozen at the end
show the JP text
ARE YOU A SINGLE MOTHER?
IF NOT YOU WILL BE SOON!
Kris is going to dominate Toriel like they did with Noelle
Kris starts shaking the car
you force kris to start shaking the car when you reach the top
she's going to go fucking ballistic
Nah toriel is not a push over. If anything she'd try to stop kris from going off the deep end and get hurt in the process.
The home already IS broken before Kris even did anything, he's probably just taunting his ass. As for Toriel, personal headcanon?
She's the next Weird Route vessel, if it doesn't commit tot only using Noelle. Toriel should still be a boss monster and - more importantly - an adult who won't bend easily to Kris; however, I can see Kris manipulating her into killing by letting himself get so hurt she panics and uses her flame magic too strongly to eliminate threats to her child. Playing upon her maternal overprotection instead of her lack of a spine to make her kill and level up, all to protect you, which she'll do unquestioningly if it comes between you or others. Could be kino.
i mean personally i'm in the camp of "it's probably not real and we're overthinking things again, but it would be cool"
that said, you technically complete chapter 2 "without issue" on snowgrave
What is UP with Gaster and his fixation on pain? What's he trying to achieve by making the player experience pain X amount of times?
if kris were canonically a girl weird route would be recontextualized as her just being a bitch rather than being a guy so fucked up as to make childhood friends kill each other for his own pleasure
everyone thinks vriska did nothing wrong, why wouldn't it be the same for kris
He takes the saying of "suffering builds character" to its most logical extreme, of course.
I really dislike the idea of Toriel being a major weird route victim because I don't want Noelle to feel less important. I don't want each chapter to be like "lolz I did something fucked up with a new person". There should be particular purpose to how Noelle was defiled
we don't know if the same rules of UT apply. I doubt monsterkind could live comfortably knowing a single human could like end all of them
*HeartBurn
問題 [mondai] ナク[naku] 完了[kanryou]
go ahead and play with that in translate if you want but it means the same thing
Either he's a straight up digital Cenobite or he's got the same plan as Crystal mom in FF14, Allow people to suffer just enough so that they can appreciate the good and keep their humanity while becoming strong enough to face an incoming lovecraftian horror.
chapter 4 religion schizoboss is gonna drop the f slur as a signal that they're irredeemable
They'll also tell Kris something like "your pronouns are about to be was/were"
He took "pain is weakness leaving the body" too seriously and deliberately ripped himself apart for power
Well hang on. How does the Japanese handle anagrams more generally?
What is Asriel's Japanese name and what is Ralsei's?
made a bingo
it mostly turned into a rant after the first few entries
Chapter 1
Not applicable.
Chapter 2
Applicable.
Chapter 3
Not applicable. But...
was this just talking about weird route or what
I mean, the "purpose" could be creating powerful monsters capable of combating the Angel's Heaven when the time comes instead of relying on a cast of zany colorful idiots to band together and beat the end of the world.
Noelle could STILL retain importance because she uniquely understands that Kris ISN'T Kris, close enough to understand him but not so far above him in the social hierarchy or willfully oblivious to his problems (like Toriel and probably Asgore are).
Still though, this would be TOUGH writing chops.
Post the template
I really don't think Toby is actually going to make Toriel a party member you can Weird Route with new sprites and a new outfit and dialogues for all the healing shit and equipable shit and non-equipable shit and new growth rates per kill and all of that
Imagine if this had nothing to do with weird route and it was a hint of how much involvement FRIEND had in creating the schizobosses or something.
he has a producer and a billion artists working for him now, he absolutely could, easily
DRY takes will need to change a lot
I think any DR fangame atm will have to change a lot of stuff
wonder what RV pines will do with his take
Asriel's japanese name is literally azurieru. Phonetic transliteration.
Same with Ralsei. "Rarusei".
The Same with Dracula and Alucard. They don't say "rakyurado", now do they?
Probably, since it plays music that only plays during the chapter 2 weird route when you hover over the 2
I don't want not!Cosmo and not!Wanda to be forgotten by the fanbase.....they have cool designs...
FRIEND was asriel's FRIEND originally before moving on to bother noelle
magic 8 ball is this true
Probably not, but it's not as impossible as you make it sound. Sprite work? That's just the game. New outfit? She's literally gonna be in the Darkworld, so she's probably getting one anyways. Equipable dialogue? She just ignores your requests to try them on, making some comment about how cute you are for trying to offer her little gifts.
wonder what RV pines will do with his take
Ack
mrs. holiday is a bitch
Suselle boring as usual
more outfits for Ralsei
datamining on very first hour
jerks will play weird route first to spoil it
main route enemies and bosses still easy
more Asriel blue-balling
i think these are all 100% going to happen. Undertale's only difficult fights were in the Genocide route
I mean, the "purpose" could be creating powerful monsters capable of combating the Angel's Heaven when the time comes instead of relying on a cast of zany colorful idiots to band together and beat the end of the world.
I'm just not convinced that's what it's about.
Yeah, probably.
you can't commit to the Weird Route in Chapter 1
you can start the Weird Route in Chapter 2
you can't further the Weird Route in Chapter 3, BUT the Chapter dramatically changes if you're playing it on a Weird Route
The Spamton NEO fight's already being broadcasted (Kris eating the FriedPipis makes a line saying "[number] liked this!" appear). Tenna could try to hold you accountable for your crimes in the second chapter.
Nah, clicking on /chapter2/ gives you "d.ogg", the same shit that played before you fight Berdly in the Weird Route. It'd be weird for all of this to actually be a massive red herring.
With how much Toby gigacucked Berdly from joining the party I really don't think we're getting anything more than than the Kris/Susie/Ralsei/Noelle formation
you need to meet with Noelle in the hospital to get special flavor text when you SAVE
Yeah, Weird Route is centered around Noelle.
could vs wants to
What I'm saying is, Deltarune is not a stranger to meaningful anagrams, down to the title itself. But evidently it's very difficult to translate that to Japanese. So I don't think the JP achievements not trying is a strong deconfirmation of anagrams being meaningful in English.
does making the houses on the boat ride blue do anything?
Understandable, it's far-fetched and a pattern hasn't been established yet. For all we know, Noelle will just constantly start invading our Darkworlds and we'll keep pulling her under our sway each time or until she starts resisting; that's to say NOTHING of the fact that Aborted Weird Route is the only known way to reduce the Trance effect on Kris via the Twisted Sword, hinting that a more convoluted path through the game (instead of just GOOD GOOD or BAD BAD) yields the "best" results.
w.ogg, d.ogg, ma.ogg, and h.ogg don't spell out a word, but the individual letters all stand for their own words.
w = Wind
d = Death
ma = Mantle
h = Home
GODly could've taken on the Roaring by himself.
If you think susie = issue, I think you should just stop making theories.
Wait, then you replace the first letter of "Noelle" with the first letter of "Dess". Was Matpat right all along?
This is retarded. I much prefer Wandy's "RNG cat" intepretation and will eagerly await this person eating shit when FRIEND shows up
you have to think about this from a design perspective, really. it wouldn't make sense to give another the same color eyes as spamton. those colors are ASSOCIATED with the guy to the point that all someone needs to do is draw pink, yellow, and a smile
Does this person not understand re-contextualization? I wonder how they feel about the new sweepstakes shit with the yellow-purple FRIEND
can't think of a funny vessel name to pair with my own
just make it yours backwards
here
Tupperware
I still believe in g.ogg
It may not come in ch3 but it will be here eventually
Finngers in his asriel
yES
Honestly the biggest red flag to me of this thread is nobody talked about the realest nigga of them all
I really hope things improve by the time the game comes out.
theres goddamn red herrings every where bro.
SURVEY_PROGRAM
from the very beginning the game heavily references mister fun_value 66 in the flesh and yet toby has given us nothing but more and more enigmas
wouldn't be the first time he got everyone theorizing only to shut them down either (i.e. kris taking out the SOUL and pulling out a knife at the ending of chapter 1)
"Susie = issue? Does that mean it's possible to complete Ch3 WITHOUT SUSIE?"
Gaster looks at the player in confusion because he never thought of that
Huh, that actually works pretty well. Thanks anon.
the eggs are just full of delisus nutrients so kris can fight against the knight at full strength
cup niggas
They just give me a Sweet Cap'n Cakes impression
Look bro.
Still can't believe how forgettable and unremarkable those three guys were
he hates escapism
Whomst'dve?
Feel that way about a lot of Toby's zany cast: they're either endearing or grating, no in-between.
Even crazier with how much chapter 2 pushes them
sweet brap'n cakes
Doesn't help that they were probably lacking because they're guest artist designs, if that was something Toby or Temmie made they would've done way more and maybe you could tell them their mixtape's ice cold, so to speak.
They're gonna be there to remind Asgore and Toriel of their younger selves and the honeymoon phase of their relationship. It's gonna make them bemoan those days because they realized too late that they had no chemistry and should've never gotten together. The weather reporter couple exist to present a fantasy that isn't real.
The same artist also designed Tasque Manager
i clapped
Hey anon, BDSM is a form of escapism, people can find enjoyment in feeling pain.
it's because they don't do anything asides from be an annoyance very early in the chapter
they hype themselves up as being part of the resistance against queen, but we never seem them do that until they join for the robot fight at the end
i know roulx says he got them to fix the thrash machine, but that's still roulx' fight so you're not even thinking about them
they only reason to even bother to remember them is because they get the shit gang to do the funny dance
their music also sounds very samey, at best you can tell it's a remix of another one of their songs, but it doesn't stick with you for very long
compare their songs to queen's and spamton's, all of them sound different from each other while still retaining the feel of the character
You know you're all manchildren, right?
they should stick to doing what they do best
sweet brap'n cakes
Please be normal.
Who?
*sweat brap'n cakes
And you are as well
Me? A manchild?
I'm 24 and make $70k working from home. I'm allowed to have one thing in my life to look forward to. Even if it's bisexual furries.
Very real possibility that there's some 20 year olds here that were like, 14 when Undertale came out.
Not quite manchildren territory.
I'm 24 and make $70k working from home.
Doing what?
Men don't grow up, the grow old
What job?
The weird route will be the overtly meta ending of Deltarune, like how geno was in Undertale.
Weird route will be about doing all this horrible stuff because you're obsessed with a character, the complement to doing the genocide route because you're bored and stopped caring about them.
it's because they don't do anything asides from be an annoyance
Basically this. They were sorta trying to be the next Papyrus, except Papyrus sticks around to support you and still has interactions with other characters instead of being a one-off NPC that doesn't show up again until the ending.