What did Miyazaki mean by this?
What did Miyazaki mean by this?
isn't that one of those porn games?
Of course Miyazaki says Fate/stay night changed his life—makes perfect sense. He played a VN full of convoluted lore, melodramatic monologues, and waifus with tragic backstories, got sick from marathoning it in his moldy apartment, and decided that was peak storytelling. Fifteen years later, he’s still doing the same thing: burying lore in 300-word item descriptions while his fanbase writes novels trying to explain why a talking pot is sad. This is the man who elevated “you died” into a lifestyle brand. Naturally, his magnum opus is just anime-tier rollslop with a coat of medieval mud and a Latin choir wailing in the background.
He meant exactly what you think he meant. Some people reach enlightenment through meditation or travel—Miyazaki booted up a dating sim with a 60-hour reading time and eight flavors of high school trauma, and saw the universe. Fate/stay night is basically a FromSoft game in disguise: obtuse plot, secrets buried under 17 layers of metaphor, and half the characters are walking tragedies held together by stubbornness and daddy issues. Dude saw Shirou sacrificing himself for ideals and said, “yeah, that’s the kind of emotional damage I want to translate into a swamp full of poison frogs.”
I'm convinced Miyazaki lacks any real reading comprehension or ability to discern cause and effect in a plot.
Cinezaki
Kino, sovl even
I've known this for years but lorefags love digging into pure shit to find any meaning or world building. If you want true esoteric lore then I'll look into Planescape: Torment instead. Some western devs could really pull it off but I never seen anything that great coming from the east.
will leftroons now start hating souls games
it's about time we got rid of those redditors
I am honestly disappointed he's a fatefag
Hirugashi could have saved him instead. Fate is pure garbage.
*Higurashi
You don't understand environmental storytelling, that's okay, most of Anon Babble doesn't have clear definitions of basic concepts like what a story is, what art is, what symbolism is. That's why artists exist, to create things that you can enjoy even if they go over your head.
Miyazaki is a RinCHAD? Holy fucking BASED.
He played a VN full of convoluted lore
Are you retarded?
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did a and b, c, d, and decided
he's x: y while fanbase z trying to explain w
elevated into a lifestyle brand
r is just s with t and u
I know what you are
who cares about your poem low IQ
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His new game is literally Fate + Tarkov so I don't understand why everyone is surprised
You're a midwit mate. Fromsoft does not tell stories and never have. They are visual artists first and foremost then they hack together a story in post and if there are incongruences they just omit information to create an ambiguity. It's a valid approach to making a cool to explore world but it is not an honest attempt to depict a narrative.
Their entire design process is just making cool shit and then writing a justification for its existence in post. We all know Melania is Tomoe.
Don't tell me you've been fooled by midwits putting on goofy voices and playing somber music on youtube into thinking there is substance to these games. I bet you fall for the promises of politicians too.
Yeah anon, you're so smart. All those people who enjoy this type of storytelling are wrong for enjoying it. You should only enjoy linear storytelling. But also fuck movie games somehow also??
he beat his meat to the blonde chick
Movie games are bad because the people behind them are talentless retards. Everyone loves well written 90s point and click adventure games which are basically just movie games with shitty, esoteric puzzles thrown in, but where the people involved are actually smart and talented.
It has no story nor lore if it's no spoonfed to me
Grow a brain and learn to do simple comprehension 101.
Their entire design process is just making cool shit and then writing a justification for its existence in post.
that's how you should make games
Shadow of the Erdtree has some of the shittiest storytelling I've seen in a game in a while. There are multiple and obvious continuity errors with the base game's established lore, and if you honestly think Miyazaki planned all of the nonsense he gave us out right from the beginning you're probably just not very bright.
Ambiguity can be used to great effect, it can also be a great shield for mediocre artists to hide behind so they can skip all the hard work of actually making stories and characters worth caring about.
I really don't understand why Anon Babble gets so butthurt over Souls lore.
There are multiple and obvious continuity errors with the base game's established lore
Like?
We all know Melania is Tomoe.
Yeah remember when Malenia used lightning?
Melania(sic) is Tomoe
Now that's a real midwit take
japanese lore in a nutshell
this
This place worships Kojima. Of course they'll freak out when the cutscenes and talking heads are absent.
90s point and click
We got a washed up boomer playing games on a dell laptop in his trailer home here.
Anon Babble gets butthurt over anything, but gets ESPECIALLY butthurt when something is successful, and there are no obvious way to discredit it. This board feeds on getting angry at things, but gets especially angry when they can't easily tear something apart.
You get to The Land of Shadow through what
clearly looks to be the totality of Miquella's flesh in Mohgwyn's Palace. You are then tasked with tracking down the discarded pieces of Miquella's flesh in The Land of Shadow within five minutes of your arrival.
uh yeah believe it or not most people that actually read the Fate/stay night VN like it
gets especially angry when they can't easily tear something apart
that's actually a good point. when the best criticism is muh i-frames which is subjective then they have no real good criticism
That's what bothers you? That's the big continuity error you have? Even before SotE, there was speculation that the cocoon in the palace was the body Miquella was trying to grow into, so he could be an adult. Since the model in the cocoon is fully grown.
Their entire design process is just making cool shit and then writing a justification for its existence in post.
That's how every game is made.
If Miquella was obsessed with marrying Radahn from the very beginning, why did he spend so much time and blood building the Haligtree? Why did he cocoon himself in it after he knew Radahn was not dead? Why were none of his followers present at the Radahn festival if killing Radahn was so vital to his plan? If Malenia knew Miquella was going to the Land of Shadow, why is neither she nor anyone else setting out to kill Mohg since that is also vital to Miquella's plan?
Whatever you say.
Of course Miyazaki says Fate/stay night changed his life—makes perfect sense
And SMT changed Nasu's life
Final Sissies and Dragon Chuds have nothing on this
why did he spend so much time and blood building the Haligtree? Why did he cocoon himself in it after he knew Radahn was not dead?
Business before pleasure. He needs to build his shit to be a god before having a lord and consort. Why do people pursue a career AND love life?
If Malenia knew Miquella was going to the Land of Shadow, why is neither she nor anyone else setting out to kill Mohg since that is also vital to Miquella's plan?
Cause Malenia's gone insane, and they have no focused leadership at the Haligtree? It's literally people running around like chickens with their heads cut off there. Once Melenia fought Radahn, they had no clue what else to do.
You're posting a guy who likes Souls games.
This is proof that Miyazaki needs to put more effort into his lore or visit more Q and As.
I understand that I can just make shit up about any FROM game and it's 100% canon because they don't finish their settings on purpose.
Business before pleasure.
What business? What did he gain from building the Haligtree? How does it advance his business of becoming a god in any way? If you follow Miquella's story by piecing together what we're given from chronological beginning to end, it's just a series of events happening, many of them having no rhyme or reason. Real writers give you a coherent picture when you arrange the stuff they give you in order. Miyazaki seems unable to do that.
Cause Malenia's gone insane, and they have no focused leadership at the Haligtree?
Yeah, all of Miyazaki's lore boils down to "and then everyone became crazy and retarded" because he's a bad storyteller who uses ambiguity to hide that weakness.
Their entire design process is just making cool shit and then writing a justification for its existence in post.
That's how we got Prince of Persia: Sands of Time (ie. The only good PoP game). So I'm cool with it.
What did he gain from building the Haligtree?
He did not want the basis of his rule to be the Erdtree. This is very simple stuff. He wanted his faith to not be rooted in the Golden Order. So he constructed a rival tree. You'll note that the Haligtree is full of races that the Erdtree denies, which is part of the point of his faith. He wants, theoretically everyone, to experience his love.
Yeah, all of Miyazaki's lore boils down to "and then everyone became crazy and retarded" because he's a bad storyteller who uses ambiguity to hide that weakness.
Okay, so you just don't like it. It's very simple though, and not a continuity error. You see that Malenia is in horrible shape when you encounter her, and has not improved whatsoever since fighting Radahn. All of Elden Ring is you fighting has-beens in a stagnant world. People just sitting around and doing nothing is emblematic at of that. "Well, we'll just wait until something happens, rather than think for ourselves." Miyazaki is obsessed with stagnation vs. progress.
It's very simple though, and not a continuity error
"everyone in Miquella's armyjust became too mentally incontinent to go kill the guy who was one Consecrated Snowfield warp away despite it being a required part of Miquella's master plan" is absolutely a continuity error, especially when the DLC introduces us to multiple people who are lucid enough to pursue quests and slay beasts who have been charmed by him the whole time.
Bro just talking about how he liked a game and pseuds writing psychoanalytical essays about it LMOA
There was no leadership with enough command to do so after the fight with Radahn. No one was commanding, "go do this." Likewise, the "warp" in the Consecrated Snowfield was not common knowledge. Albinaurics are led there astray when trying to find the Haligtree. Getting to Mogwyn Palace itself was not common knowledge. Gideon himself comments when you finally find it. "Oh, so that's where he was."
kek you win anon
If I track the actions of characters who are not insane or retarded in a well written story, I understand the vast majority of those actions. You can fall back on platitudinous shit like "he's challenging the old order" when he stops campaign to marry Radahn to build a Haligtree, something seems ancillary to main goal, sure. But that doesn't track if he wanted to marry Radahn so badly he started a war to make it happen in the first place. He cared that much, then stops caring and decides to become a tree for a while, despite knowing the guy he started a war on the other side of the continent to kill still isn't dead.
He cares so much, then so little. That seems important. But not to Miyazaki. I would say, that's because he's bad at writing.
when he stops campaign to marry Radahn to build a Haligtree, something seems ancillary to main goal, sure
No, it's totally important to his main goal. He wants to depose the Erdtree as the source of power in the world, with his own tree, that holds his own beliefs. He also wants Radahn as his consort once that happens. "I will build a kingdom, and you will be my... well. Not 'queen,' but buff muscle-y man lover, because I am a twinky little gay boi."
Jokes aside, he actually didn't want to at least look like a twinky little gay boi, as part of his plan was to develop a new body for himself in the Haligtree, because he was afflicted with eternal youth. This process was interrupted by Mohg kidnapping him. I'm not going to say Souls writing is 100% clear, but this isn't super egregious. If I were to plant a critique, I really feel there was a last minute change where Miquella's consort was meant to be Godwyn, not Radahn, but all this other stuff here is pretty well established in the base game.
Nasu also made a couple of references to DS in F/E CCC.
Time for me to break out a 10 year old webm.
i never played fate or whatever the fuck but what did he mean content intake as free? pirated on pc? maybe this is the reason souls games can be easily pirated so the younger generation can enjoy
he meant he didn't have to worry about his mother looking over his shoulder and judging him for reading some garbage about recharging the western girl's "mana" by bumping her with his microdick.
He only likes Demon's and DS1 (Based)
I don't keep up with him, since he hasn't posted videos in years, but has he said anything of note about Elden Ring? He made a DS2 video, and never made a DS3 video.
Why doesn't he make a Fate game?
We need Miyazaki, GRRM and Melody Marks in a room again.
and never made a DS3 video
That's not a full DS3 critique, that's him lamenting the series' direction towards more combat. It's an okay video, and I do love Demon's Souls, but that's not looking at the later entries overall. He's been quiet for years about things. I know he likes Bloodborne, but his opinions are ultimately about 10 years old.
In his SotN stream him and his gf rant about DS3's lack of originality
This is his only mention of ER:
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complaining about lack of originality in a direct sequel
I don't like DS3 but you have to admit that this point isn't the major issue of the game. His angles always take the elitist approach which fails to see the problems in the original games and is blind to the obvious improvements that the sequels make.
I would like to see a TypeMoon game from FS, can't be worse than their previous games at least.
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I do agree that callbacks like the storm ruler are misplaced, but most of their grievances come from the expectations of a new experience out of a purely iterative but not innovative sequel.
Lady Tohsaka who "jumps into the night"
Is that a euphemism?