Wife dies

Why doesn't Roland start a g*cha "game" and use the likeness of his ex wife for money? Doesn't he know that's what people who say "that is this and this is that" do?

The entire game is drilling into your head that the City is changing because of the Light
The that's that and this is this mindset isn't a hard rule anymore, and rather than cold apathy being near universal with people having strong feelings of happiness, love, loss, and everything in between

is the board not moving for a bit? i can't see new posts and it seems like ever single post remains in their pages without changing.

This, and Roland himself is aware that he's coping. It's why he freaks out when Angela decides to unbook everyone and abandon her goal so close to the finish line, he needed to believe that the City and its inhabitants were incapable of change as it would justify his own selfishness

Why couldn't he be honest with himself and say, yeah I'm selfish. And then kill Angela for the sake of Angelica?

the City is changing because of the Light

Isn't it just giving people the chance to become superhuman in one way or another? I thought the point of Yans' story is that it's the people of the City that shape its will, not the other way around; they simply chose to believe in a system that frees them from having to care about others and be responsible for their own life. Outside of the rules set by the Head (who are rather flexible really) there aren't any hard rules in the way people are supposed to behave.

I can't wait bros, gonna be kino

It's gonna have better writing than Limbus.

Because impregnating angela and giving her the responsibility to look after her lineage and watching them die one by one is a greater punishment.

He just does not care. He even says how pointless all that is, and the only reason he is doing it is because it will make him feel good for a moment.

The greater punishment would be to kill her actually.

Because he ended up liking Angela, even if he didn't intend to at first, he's not lying about being sympathetic to her plight which he recognizes as being incomparably more cruel to his own life. He constantly nudges her with the "are you SURE you don't feel just a liiiitttlllee bad for the people you're harming" over and over again throughout the story, which would be pointless if he was deadset on killing her from the start. He says himself that he was seeing if there was even a chance she could separate herself from the "fuck you got mine" way of thinking that permeates the Cityfolk, which of course doesn't happen until their confrontation.

So, you are telling me Roland is a playboy who betrays his wife by sleeping with her killer? Got it.

You can see how he is already doubting himself in the Black Silence reception.
I wish you could actually read those ingames and not only catch a few words.

that is that and this is this

Survival of the fittest. If Angelica wanted to secure her husband, she should not have not died.

I though that was this and this was that, so we shouldn't steal each others wives. I guess everything will return how it used to be in the city after the poison gets cleared from the mind of man.

I'm siding with the blue schizos if it means the possibility of completely destroying the Head.
Fuck them and their loosh farm, Raze every wing to the ground!
Hell I'll listen to Carmen if she presents a way to achieve exactly that.

The city is shaped by the people living in it, by wanting to destroy the city you want to destroy humanity in its entirety. How about you replace those pointless stars with the beauty of apartment lights.

Why do you think the ending is Roland and Angela realizing that positive change can make a difference instead of following a self destructive mindset?

That's that and this is this, nigge-e-er.

all those words

that is that and this is this

Fuck you arbiter!
Your propaganda is worthless.
humanity would be better off out of it's cage and facing the very monsters they were hiding from.
To rise up from the ashes, to the sky and pierce the zenith.

Everybody in the city has lost hope, they live by keeping their head down, and following the rules. Even the syndicates, the stars of the city, keep their head down for the head. The Light does not only give people power, but it fills them with hope of a better future AND the power to achieve their hopes and dreams, giving them power to achieve anything without needing to be rich to achieve it.

From ashes you shall rise and to ashes you will return. To sacrifice the security of humanity for pointless dreams is what caused man to get into this situation. After all, once you appreciate what is you will no longer want what could be.

Wait for Angela to become human

Impregnate her

Unbook everyone and release the Light

Win-win

I'm siding with the blue schizos if it means the possibility of completely destroying the Head.

Lol they weren't going to do shit, Carmen isn't either for that matter. Even if the ensemble succeeded it's highly unlikely the Head would intervene, similar to how they didn't care about Angela in her bad ending where the Library kept expanding, as long as you don't start fucking toasters you can do whatever you want.

The Head is also significantly more powerful than everything else in the city and it's not even close, in the Lob Corp ending where the abnos were unleashed onto the CIty they were still able to keep things under control. Meaning they were able to suppress every abno (including ALEPHs) breaching at once without Qliphoth deterrence, Argalia's goonsquad and a couple of E.G.O. users/Distortions aren't shit compared to that

I hope you have paid your taxes, Anon.

Lob Corp ending where the abnos were unleashed onto the CIty they were still able to keep things under control.

WITHIN A WEEK

DOOOOD THE HEAD IS SO POWERFUL! YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING AGAINST IT.

So... what was the point of SoL?
Seems pretty obvious the head will follow its laws to the letter. Just seems like added misery if you start caring about people around you.

Man i was a little disappointed how you can not use the Kether floor against the Black Silence. It would be fitting to have Roland's own assistant being the ones who beat him into sanity.

You severely underestimate The Head strength if you think a bunch of Blue Jobbers can remotely do anything of value to tip the scale

what was the point of SoL?

Free shit for people from the Light
Also tax evasion

The other blue schizos might have a chance.

>DOOOOD THE HEAD IS SO POWERFUL! YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING AGAINST IT.

Yeah? The Games made it very clear and Limbus only Enforces this thought process

What's insane is that the Pianist was considered between a WAW and ALEPH in threat level and it killed 300,000 people near instantly, can't imagine how destructive abnos like White Night, Blue Star, or MoSB were and yet they still were handled with relative ease by the Head

Is this still the case? I don't wanna play gachage to find out.

LoR and LC aren't gachas though

Nah, now everybody is a quirky chungus with a unique gimmick.

She'd probably just have the fetus be crushed in her cold metal frame if that happened.

LC is mobile tier gacha where you need to have energy points to play the fucking game.

now everybody is a quirky chungus with a unique gimmick.

So like LC and LOR

I meant Limbo, I played LoR.
Oh...

You mean Limbus or Lobotomy Corporation?

Seems pretty obvious the head will follow its laws to the letter

The Head doesn't have many laws that's the thing, the City and its misery is a result of its people. It's a mistake to think of the Head as the big bad, the vast majority of Cityfolk will never even see a Claw, much less an Arbiter.

Isnt the whole point of the Seed of Light turning everybody into a quirky chungus by giving them the power to awaken their own unique EGO?

SoL is the spiritual equivalent of giving reddit accounts (E.G.O) to everybody

Pre SoL was Anon Babble anonymous imageboard

Bros...

Claws are watching this very thread

tells everyone to cry about it when shit happens to them

has a meltdown when shit happens to him

in the end learns to cry about it

Roland just had to learn to b himself

Pianist wasn't even being dealth with directly by the Head, it was like Philip in V Corp. situation of Hana throwing Fixers at it until they died.
I'd wager Pianist and Philip would have been dealth with in half a day under Head's direct intervention.

The head only has like a dozen of laws and most of them barely affect the common man:

do not make bullets that penetrate concrete walls

pay your taxes

do not infringe copyright laws

do not fuck with people's house during night

no AI

no clones

no reviving the dead

That is it. All the suffering in the city is people fucking with people. Meanwhile the Head is protecting the City from all the horror from the outskirts.

You know the funny thing? The head will be the actual bad guys when the director starts writing about the head.

the Head is protecting the City from all the horror from the outskirts

No people = No taxes
And while common folks kill each other just right they're not trying to clean the state out of humans

What the Head use all the tax money for?

pay your taxes

this one is fucking bullshit though

Sweepers

he doesn't know

Like IRL for reasons

DOOOOD THE HEAD IS SO POWERFUL! YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING AGAINST IT

This but Unironically, Don't be a Retard and break the Taboos it's that simple

I could beat The Head.

Ayin...

Albus...

mc syndrome

No point in getting mad over hypothetically bad writing. Something I really like about PM's dystopia is that it isn't your typical "hyper authoritarian government overlords rule with an iron fist", while the Head sees and knows everything they don't intervene with peoples lives barring their small set of rules. The City being an enormous, inescapable prisoner's dilemma is way more interesting to me, it'd suck if it went the generic route where a handful of baddies are responsible for everything like other typical dystopian settings

his wife had anime superpowers so he could reasonably expect her to not die. she only died due to bad luck really

What you proposed is too nuanced for 14 year olds, so the director will make the Head actually evil so they can power their evilness singularity.

The City being an enormous, inescapable prisoner's dilemma is way more interesting to me, it'd suck if it went the generic route where a handful of baddies are responsible for everything like other typical dystopian settings

It's like Anon forget about possible multiple giant sewing machines under the City printing out orders for everyone to harm/maim/kill each other daily. And no one knows how exactly it works or why.

The whole point of the SoL was to counter the disease of the mind and make people actually feel emotions again, not overthrow the head. That's why the head didn't just immediately crush lobcorp, technically what they did was still within the bounds of what the head wants out of humanity. Also, the only people who are supposed to be able to generate EGO are those who have their own ambitions and dreams, anyone who sacrifices their humanity and individuality to serve a corporation will remain like normal. EGO just gives people the power they need to attempt to achieve their dream.

The Head literally does nothing wrong
Lets the city exist and organize as it pleases as long as people don't go overboard

Christian consultations, donations to ancient chthonic Gods, and the development of A, B and C Nests.

it'd suck if it went the generic route where a handful of baddies are responsible for everything like other typical dystopian settings

The good thing is the Head is nowhere near that point at all

Lets the city exist

That's the problem it's a loosh farm.
It harvests human suffering.
Every aspect about the city requires human suffering to function.
A prison meant to make you suffer and damn you.

The entire point of the Prescripts is that there isn't an evil baddie behind them like Yan thought. It's why he breaks down in despair, because it meant that all his acts of rebellion were completely meaningless (or so he thinks). He thinks he can't fight back against the will of the city, so why should he feel bad?

gnosticism

Yep, disregarded. The city RULES!

Sweepers are a public service, they just clean up the homeless like any other trash

You know, you accidentally made me thinking...
PM games are pro-christian. Look:

MoonJesus is a cool dude

The Head embodies the Old Testament with cruel laws while Ayin/The Light embodies the New, with hope™ and a savior.

both based on hebrew nonsence

no sign of faggots in 3 games

importance of family

and so on. I'm too busy to shitpost but you can get the idea

Pro-christian

G*cha

Pick one.

no sign of faggots in 3 games

Netzach, Hokma, Roland, Yan, Sinclair

I get the impression the taxes were high to encourage more rat racing

LoR rly ruined everything

Catholic gacha.

Carmen

Ayin (but platonic like Judas)

Angelica

he's done

Demian's mother

Doood it's le Catholic... because... IT JUST IS OKAY?

Why are slurpers this deranged. Everything has to come back to PM and Limbus for them.

Roland and Angela aren't really romantic though. He likes her because she turns out to be his kind of crazy and the two hit it off as misery-buddies.

You missed the joke, anon or simply can't read

Ow, the protestant split thing. Got it.

hehe

They're literal Jannies

LOL& furioso not roland the happy

The Head is more about keeping the status quo to be honest. With all the power they got they could wipe clean the outside world and subjugate all the Wings as a true empire but they rather keep things on tab.

I'm still confused about the source of distortions. Looking online it seems people say that it was a result of the incomplete light being released and had it been released fully distortions wouldn't have occured, which is what most of the story corroborates and what I thought myself, but I thought the big reveal of the Keter Realization was that it was Carmen causing people to distort, meaning it was a feature, not a bug, of the light and would've happened regardless given that she's a part of it

Looking online

That was your first mistake.

Looking anywhere that isn't here

That was your second mistake.

Install VPN already.
Your posts are glowing cross boards

no sign of faggots in 3 games

But twitter tells me all the women are gay

Nah

you forgot

body horror

Lolan was originally a cynical, miserable cut-throat, who one day got a taste of what a good life could be like through Angelica. A life changing moment for him.

The moment that's all dashed away from him, despite the strides and sacrifices made to overcome their shitty pasts and be better persons, he succumbs back to his old habits, his old cut-throat ways. Only this time with a fury, that is only part vengeance. But mostly just him lashing out at the City/the world for being such a shitty place.

He casts a city wide net, and ruthlessly targets a bunch of corps, associations, wings, offices, fixers, etc. in a one-man crusade to find nebulous clues to piece together the root cause of a supernatural disaster. And a lot of (sometimes questionably) innocent bystanders are hurt along the way. Until he finally connects the dots/is manipulated to set his sights on the ruins of Lobotomy Corp, Angela, and the Library.

Honestly, if Angela didn't share a similar name, he probably would've tried to kill her a lot sooner? The moment he pieces together what the light is, and her role in it. He could've been back in time to order take-out PZA and ice cold bears.

But the stage that is the city was not built with the intetion to make the actors suffer. It's not the stage's fault that the actors turned it into a prison, and now it's up to the actors to escape the prison of their own making and the head explicitly allows the perfect tool for that to exist. The head was also kind of excited to see how ego would shake up the status quo

You forgot that he physically couldn't kill her, Angela is effectively invincible as long as she's a machine and in control of the Library. He practically died just walking in the door. He also wanted to make her suffer as much as possible by snatching away her dream right before her eyes

I think that if he tried to attack sooner he would stand no chance to beat her. The only reason he manages to kill her in his bad ending is because he built a friendship with her and she let him kill her. If he attacked sooner, she would have no reason to not simply turn him into a popcorn machine.

iirc angela directly states that distortions wouldnt happen as often if the light went for its full cycle. The point of the light was to open the peoples eyes to the virtues discovered in the lobcorp core suppressions so the incomplete light most likely left people at a stopgap between their previous rat race mindset and being awakened that left them mentally unstable, leading to distortions and peccatula.

Oh yea. That too.
Had to wait for the machine to start bleeding again.

That caveat is probably one of the few times Roland actually had time to sit down, and think about his actions, while playing the long-con.

Every rampage prior to that, seems to be mostly him acting on impulse with a blank mask.

Good thing Angela was a dork, to that end.

Do you think loland and angela ever...

Netzach

Hokma

That's like saying Jesus' Apostles were gay. Netzach was also enamored with Carmen first.

Yan

Sinclair

Since when do we have any info related to their preferences?

Angela is the only reason things are still shitty in the city

slurped the director for making Limbus? Obviously.

Roland becomes very relatable once you get that island of happiness in your life that gets snatched away too soon.

Just forget that island of happiness and embrace what is.

You're glossing over a fair few details here

Pay your taxes

It's implied these are pretty high and unfair rates, seemingly done so to push the current state of wing/corp competitions.
This alone might be responsible for why there's no real decent place to live in the city if in practice it leads to a reliance on singularities and hence a need to sacrifice feathers for the wing.

Do not infringe copyright laws

Pretty much instant death even if the person doing so has no actual way to know they are infringing on a copyright.

But the stage that is the city was not built with the intetion to make the actors suffer

I disagree, the suffering is intentional.
Yes, the head seems to want the people of the city to step up to change things (via means they approve off), going by their words to Angela, but their way of encouraging is by pushing the city to its very limits.

If suffering wasn't the intention there wouldn't be issues like a workshop being destroyed because they accepted a commission to unknowingly break copyright.
Or the sweepers are pretty much built to encourage people to take advantage of against others.

I think copyright laws is just about enforcing Wing patents for singularities. Hence why those patents only change after long periods of espionage and entire Wing wars. Smaller patents likely get enforced in a more mundane way without requiring the threat of Claws.

>no reviving the dead

I found it funny how Hong Lu's family is all about finding immortality but Hong found a type of immortality and his sister immediatly wanted to kill him for breaking a taboo. They are allowed to look for it as much as they want, but they are not supposed to succeed.

In a way its pretty funny that in a setting with dragonball tier superhumans and singularities that completely warp reality, the strongest organizations are tax collectors and the patent office.

Its either that or getting a patent can occur for non-wings too but tends to be very difficult.
But either way the point remains as LoR had a workshop get claw'd because they were unknowingly working on a patented tech from stolen information their client had provided when making an order.

Immortality is probably fine in the head's laws but reviving people is a nono in the same way Dante's bullshit healing powers are fine because it's "rewinding" people.
Also his family freaking out over a taboo being potentially broken is probably because they are responsible for Garion wrecking shit in the past H-corp and obliterating the kongs

Because the circumstances of her death were an exception the city's usual hostilities, and Angelica herself would've been more than capable of some random break in. A lot of his anger stems from not knowing what the fuck caused the pianist, and survivors guilt thinking his past actions could've prevented their deaths if he at-least was there at the time. The sad truth is Angela and Carmen caused it, and there's little to nothing he could've done to prevent it. Another person could've distorted on the same level threat as the pianist in any nest or backstreet. Angelica and the baby just got unlucky.

Oh I must've forgotten that story.

He is built different

My bets on the freakout being because they don't actually know why the head raided them.
Something like unbeknownst to the rest of the family the kongs made a deal with the research group for the bough while contributing to Angela.
Which would explain why the bough within the family vault instead of an L corp facility despite the family being unaware of its value.

loland causes suffering to others through work as a fixer

that's that and this is this

abno causes suffering to loland

that's this and this is that

loland goes on a warpath after

that's that and this is this

loland causes suffering to others through work as a fixer

proof?

Pluto, if you believe Roland was at fault.

Pianist collateral

Pluto's thing was before the pianist though

Pluto was the despairing fixer Roland talked to on the phone about a dickass contract, it was something that happened before the Pianist. It was confirmed in the artbook.

Do you think angela masturbates during the few days she has a biological body?

I thought that dickassery was after the pianist.

Is Limbus worth playing? I haven't touched it since one of the crab boat event. Hate that they made it a gacha.

Roland and Angela aren't really romantic though.

COPE
writing the book together means marriage

100%

Roland is like Me is a hot playboy chad with deceased wife and i don't want to remarry just to have sex
angellaxronald OTP

Nothing to add just found this cute art yesterday browsing xitter

The scene was set to parallel Roland failing to get a Nest permit because of fineprint bullshit, which was before the Pianist incident.

Cute

I know it's meant to be a dystopic hellhole of a setting but the Head is a fairly ideal form of ruling "goverment" with how little they interfere outside it's few rules.
The people of the City are allowed to carry weapons and defend themselves everywhere and matters of private security being left to corporations and independent Fixer offices is also ideal.

asking this when Dongbaek absolutely PENETRATED him onscreen in canto IV

no

fuck was meant for