What are the implications of AI art for video games?
What are the implications of AI art for video games?
artists gonna hang themselves and I'm all for it
Costs will go down for devs but not for you.
Hour long presentation from hunyuan showing their "AIGC engine" which is a production pipeline from nothing to 3D models usnig AI. x.com
Pretty dry and boring by the looks of it but I like that they're an open source company trying to make vidya better.
Also VISA wanted Civitai to kill itself by removing all the porn and Civitai rejected their threats. Pic related is the reason why lmao.
Gooners rule the world and will not be stopped.
They will go down in some cases.
Why would I want multi-billion dollar corporations to generate me AI slop? The only good thing about AI is that you can generate yourself exactly what you want. Who the hell would pay money for some pre-generated garabage?
If you believe that, have I got a bridge to sell you.
asset generation? could be good
but for eveyrthing else? still quite a ways from that and like all AI unless they fix the consistency problem they all suffer from they won't be so quick to adopt it. But then again maybe they will since the devs aren't even in charge of the actual development of their own games, the shareholders and publisher does and making a faster buck for less effort is always on their mind.
The reason budgets get high is because you have to hire people.
If you don't have to hire people you can have a smaller budget.
If you have a smaller budget you can sell your game at a lower price, hoping to get more sales and to edge out your competitors(see: AI Limit vs Kazan).
Neat on paper but it's been shown time and time again that lowering the bar to create stuff has always been a disaster.
Expect slop produced at a higher pace basically (and the end product still being as expensive as usual).
Idk maybe I'm pessimistic and jaded but the more tech we got into vidya, the more garbage and soulless it has become.
Serious question: are there any 3d AI models that can take additional prompts to fix result after first generation?
Like "hmmm nice but make belt bolder and add wrinkles to the face, also make eyes green".
Don't buy it. I've been ignoring mainstream vidya industry for like 2 decades or something.
Convince other people to ignore it too and maybe industry will figure out people don't want shitty games.
Same. Their prices were reasonable from 2000 to 2015 then kept spiking ever since and much harder to work with.
I just want AI tools for the average Joe. To make it easy easier to self publish a game without high costs
From what I've messed with, not that much yet.
The models look good at a distance but tend to break up close, good for props, but every time I've tried AI character models the topology on them is unworkably bad/ better off just modeling from scratch anyway.
AI models also end up being unreasonably dense which is bad for performance and frame rates but I assume that'll be fixed eventually.
Long term I see it causing layoffs/less 3D Artist jobs overall, and those already established will basically become AI Quality assurance and get to clean up the shit it puts out.
Neat on paper but it's been shown time and time again that lowering the bar to create stuff has always been a disaster.
This isn't really a rule, it's just a circumstance. Good things come from lowering the bar too.
porn games
I actually saw one artist online suggest they should triple their prices for commissions. LMAO.
Since your examples are all texture related, yes. It's probably trickier if it's geometry based though. You lose a lot of control there at the moment.
Massive seethe
it's gonna be easier to produce more slop i guess
There could be more 3D jobs post-AI since you still need a guy to make all the models. They just get 10000000000x more productive. Well, it's like the really good ones will have a lot of work but entry level guys will probably get boned forever.
reall
sir do NOT the questioning AI sir!!! sir!!!!!!!
he fell for it and is butthurt
based retard
I didn't mean textures only. But even so, what 3d AI take extra prompts, even if only for textures?
Or did you mean "in theory"? That's for sure, since we have midjourney and so on, but I'm more interested if there's something practical already.
I think it would be interesting to use AI for procgen in roguelikes for example. I'd like to feed it some of my 3d miniatures and ask to infinitely generate new dungeon levels in the same style.
I saw this earlier, I thought it was the old blender plugin but it seems like a new one looking at the releases.
github.com
In theory you could edit your base image and regenerated the 3D model but you're going to lose a lot of stuff doing that. Eventually I guess you'll be able to inpaint 3D sections though which will be really cool. I wonder what kind of hardware that would require though lol.
Expect Games files to bloat even larger than they have already, and to run worse
UV Seams out the ass on all 3D models, so only their generated textures even work = Every single asset needs its own unique texture, shared/tiling textures will be harder to use
Models themselves are very heavy in terms of vertex counts
= Heavier assets with more textures being loaded at once = shittier performance
Like you can fix these things but then you're still hiring the artists, in which it becomes less of a replacement for them and more of a tool.
You also need people to implement these assets into a game engine and make them compatible with your workflow
I've yet to see an AI generated model be fully rigged or animated in a way where its actually usable for game animation. The models themselves also tend to have such a trash topology layout that heavy work would need to be done to get the asset to that point, arguably more than just doing it the old fashioned way.
and god forbid you need to change anything about the asset post generation.
We are a long way off from the "make game" button.
games make more money than ever before
execs increase their prices, year on year
HR smells the money and introduces themselves
"It's the artists who are the problem"
Based lmao
Get a job tranny
What is that video actually from? I don't pay much attention but transitioning to a T-pose kind of implies the AI did rigging, which I was not aware was a thing yet.
funnily, AI advancements haven't deterred me from wanting to learn how to draw even for a second because I want to create things from my imagination free hand exactly as I want them to be, not some computer's worthless interpretation filled with errors
AI can generate big anime asses when I'm bored but apart from that I don't care
where's the gooner payment processor?
AI rigging has been around for a while but here's the source
x.com
Seems like it might pop up soon since the jews are cracking down on anime, manga, anti-semites, porn, and now AI.
Up until AI they were uncontested but AI chads can actually build companies and technologies unlike weebs and polfags.
Suppose I've been out of the loop for quite a while, thanks.
We're already seeing the effect: more shovelware flooding online storefronts.
can i have sex with male paimon please
there are no organic posters in these threads, just the same shit posted over and over with the same exact posts.
Ai art is souless because... Ack!
How does this make you feel?
i'd never give money to anything made by ai
don't care, won't play AI slop games in the same way i don't play gacha
I'd never give money to anything made by an american
americans are basically ai, soulless mutts from a plastic country
Anon, they want new AAA titles to be valued at $100, and the quality is going to be a lot worse. They only want to fuck you.
N-no, you can't say that, I'm an artist and it's a violation of my rights that my slop is automatically public domain!
he doesn't play genshin or any of their clones
you don't even like video games man
And eventually AI will let indies make games that directly compete with them. Think ahead mate.
They aren't going to operate by that, they will try to charge you more and more.
both AAA games and indies will be ruined, the future is so good bro!
based. but in reality, any smart artist is just gonna leverage ai for their benefit to speed up shit. same with programmers.
Then they get out-competed by those that will, or retards will continue to support overpriced games.
improved*
I'm not indian, I want handcrafted tits and ass.
AI doesn't ruin games. Incompetent trannies do.
AI assets are objectively comparable to troon DEI slop and general generic corporate boardroom slop.
Undertale, Balatro and Lethal Company were built in a cave with a box of scraps and they're the most successful games of all time, each of them developed by one (1) guy. They didn't need AI to compete against AAA games, so what's stopping (You) to make the next big indie games?
AI will improve over time.
Trannies can only kill themselves over time.
AI will help more devs like those create better games.
They didn't need
They didn't need desks and chairs for their developers either but it probably made working on the game less painful and more productive.
plagiarism with extra steps
Where can I use this?
So far I've only seen it being decent at still images and models, neither of which really matters in modern gamedev. Flat pics aren't used anywhere besides vn tier shit and still models aren't used much outside of decorations, and if you need a generic rock model or a grassy ground texture, there's plenty lying around for free.
Either way, big devs have been getting progressively lazier in recent years and you can bet your ass that they fully intend to continue that trend. I wouldn't be surprised if we get some Action 52 tier gem from them featuring major use of AI.
epic's meta humans and nvidia's neural faces will probably dominate character models
AI will probably eventually shit out huge geometry soon too, like generating a city based on a picture
That's just coincidental. The bar for making AAA games has never been higher and they're mostly shit, you'd expect the opposite if lowering the bar was directly responsible for more shit.
Oh wow, quantity over quality, so good!
those things are just quality boosters you retard
Art made for a paycheck in service to a corporation is soulless by default.
I dont care who or what made it.
So it's inpainting but no reprompts. Well, we can do better than that already.
It'll be as much of a quality booster as the procedurally generated countryside, towns, and dungeons were for Daggerfall.
pay for something you can make for free
That there will probably be more games, but that they will all either look like genchink impact or have the same art fidelity as those mass churned ai cuck games that keep appearing by the dozen on f95.
Also I am gonna assume the models these 2D to 3D generators churn out are really awful if you want to actually rig and use them, but its cool tech. I could see a proper artist using it to good effect if they are willing to clean up a lot of the geometry it inevitably messes up.
oh you make your own electricity?
a power my pc with my waste and via treadmill
You don't?
Quixel assets are also free. Yet people pay for games that utilize Photogrammetry. You posted Todd, the guy who just shat out UE5 asset store flip mod for Oblivion. And people bought it.
i don't buy into scams sorry
Must live in Britain or something
You guys ready for the AI controlled sex robots?
solar is scam
Luddite. You better be in some Finnish shithole or something.
Fleshlights/tengas/onaholes for now
I really think AI is a cool tool, but the narrative that its gonna kill and gut artists and replace them is a bit weird. I think it is probably just going to change how its made. I mean, there are already people who can make and clean up AI art to look incredibly good, but your average joe makes the lowest effort barely passable trash with it. In 40 years I bet you will still be able to tell whats made by a professional with standards and some modicum of talent over someone just mass churning out sewage with it.
Also there is the energy consumption issue, but I would hope things will get more efficient as it improves.
please buy my AI asset flip
... I can make it for free.
Cool
The artist will choose to end his life on his own terms to escape an increasingly inhuman, dystopian world.
You'll go on living like a dog under some corporate's boot until AI makes you redundant, after which you'll be priced out of every life necessity and die in a ditch somewhere, cold, hungry and homeless.
The artists are definitely getting the better deal here. Suicide is the ultimate solution to every possible issue you might have, after all. There will come a time when you'll consider it, too.
Solar is not a scam.
Just because you buy a thing that will pay itself back in 10 years and it dies in 5 and you can't recycle it does not mean it's a scam.
leftists forever seething about ai, india, trump, and israel has been my favorite thing in the past few years
please buy my AI asset flip
I didn't say that thoughever? I said an "AI" generated 3D asset might as well be a photogrammetry scanned 3D asset in the future. And nobody will notice.
We more or less already had this kind of tech for a while now, doing it a bit faster is nice I suppose but it's still relatively minor stuff, and I'd say people pay it more heed than it's worth. Animations are a much more interesting topic and it'd be interesting to see AI generate at least some basic pixel stuff like character movement.
Game ready 3D won't be AI made any time soon, these luddite dev retards aren't even adopting 2D AI yet and that's now close to perfect. I don't expect to see any game with 3D AI assets this decade
The return of AA games
AI will magically be amazingly good at one thing but not others
Why would I care about studios doing that if I can do it?
Go on then, make an AI game and show it to us
Yeah I don't get what's upsetting you and you seemingly don't get what I'm saying either.
You CAN make an UE4/5 game anon. Right now. For free. With all its tools and features that it offers. Nobody is stopping you. AI is also just a tool. Same how engines like RPGmaker are just a tool which spawned countless of sloppa made by people who couldn't otherwise make a game. And people bought the good ones.
I think the legal aspect of AI is scaring a lot of companies from using it as a big part of their workflows.
You're not even allowed to use Copyright songs in a youtube video, so using copyright material in an AI trained algorithm is a legal nightmare, and all the models that do not use copyright material tend to suck ass.
Because the studio will use million times more electricity and 1000 times more proompters to do it full time for 3 years. Same as now, dumbass. You CAN make a game with your hands now. But they can spend a million times more resources than you and that's why you play their games and not your own
good artists hate ai too anon
At last the jeet reveals himself
I like AI because it makes artfags seethe
I hate AI because it makes techbros seethe
AI art can be good but the people generating them need higher standards. Seriously people will post stuff that clearly needs another few prompts. I honestly think it hurts the image of the tech to post half of what people make with it.
Also people like Epic need to slow down on forcing it into shit until its a bit smarter. Seriously the AI Darth Vader is just embarrassing.
whats already happened
every market place is just flooded with garbage, even more so than before
youtube.com
They should. I've spent the last 4 days prompting porn by my favorite artist and it came out better than 90% of his own work. He should be scared
they will all either look like genchink impact
I love how you're implying this is a bad thing lmao
every market place
mobile phone slop
Good. SLAUGHTER the mobile slop.
Based. So tired of artists not giving us what we want. I've been doing similar stuff today.
I hate AI because it makes techbros seethe
It really doesn't.
Techbros dont have a hyper-emotional attachment to AI like anti-AI commie luddites do against AI.
Those same people used to make unity store asset flips before, those aren't real games, just scams
You aren't? Sorry if I have standards but I don't want everything to look like its a design from League of Legend's anime cousin.
the e-shop is flooded idiot
ai makes it easier to be a scammer not an artist
Why? AI is all about accessibility and expedience. The democratization and decentralization of creativity. The standards should be lower if anything.
It can be used in ways that speed up a lot of work internally without using outside assets
one concept art drawing made into many poses/views easily without wasting time manually drawing each one
3d model out of a concept drawing
texture set out of a sample texture that is created manually
speeding up revisions of art/textures/models considerably
creating many variations of an art asset without having to manually edit it all by hand
A good concept artist can even train an AI on their own work, allowing them to create variations and tweak it 100x faster.
Damn artistbro, put down the knife.
Sorry anon, that was too smart of a post so you didn't get a reply from the thirdie posting badly genned butiful woman saars. I appreciate you anyway.
but the narrative that its gonna kill and gut artists and replace them is a bit weird.
If one person can do the job of 100 people, 99 are going to get fired.
In 40 years I bet you will still be able to tell whats made by a professional with standards and some modicum of talent over someone just mass churning out sewage with it.
Hilariously retarded statement.
Also there is the energy consumption issue
Not an issue.
1000 times more proompters to do it full time for 3 years.
Who told you this? You do not need anyone to write multiple prompts. We already have agentic development, I use it as part of my tech stack at the moment. The only things we're missing is good 3D modelling models. Prompting is fucking worthless when LLMs do it 1000x better and can iterate too.
Welp I signed up but I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a chink only thing
Good. FLOOD the sloppa. Compete or starve.
Look, if you want to make doodles for your own creative freedom no one cares about the quality. If you are designing products or trying to get paid trying to sell "society should lower its standards" is a losing battle.
Diffusion for animations will be super fun, I wonder where it is.
we did it! we saved gaming by smearing shit on every wall!
Games have been generating and using stuff for years, you guys live under a rock.
based enjoyer of both direct animation and big anime ass sloppa
go to a board for man made things
hate the people who make it
i get hating bad games, but how do you walk into this board and like no game
It's just a figure of speech. AAA companies will find something to throw money at. Money you don't have. Their products will always be bigger and shinier than what you can generate at home
No knives, I intend to use an exit bag. Faster, painless and much cleaner.
The gaming industry will die when this technology becomes widely available. There will be no reason to purchase products in such a market.
I've seen some lower end gachas gen marketing material, nothing bigger than that.
All this ai shit makes its easier and easier for "The idea guy" to make what ever game they want.
While coders, artists and voice actors who devoted time and skill to their craft are more and more likely to be side lined they really have to offer an impressive service to compete.
this could mean a huge boom in the indie scene but certain groups get together and bully people who use ai and try to force them off the market thorugh social pressure and sabotage. Honestly it would be amazing if almost anyone was able to create quality games for their interests with little investment. Not everyone has the skills or money or time to make their dreams come to life AI could help that and create some beautiful stuff.
Ironically its more important for the artists that money greases their hands rather than anyone being able to fulfill their dreams and share it with others
creating games will be so easy anyone including me can do it, but people will buy my game!!
why do retards believe this?
the e-shop is flooded
oh no
lol
lmao
Not unless energy becomes free. AI needs energy and they have more of it then you, their products will always be bigger than yours. If you can generate a city for a game, they can generate a galaxy, which game would be more popular
Subhuman.
People even with modern AI people are too lazy to actually make anything? What the fuck have YOU created with modern AI? You can literally make a comic book in a couple of hours and yet you still read One Piece or whatever. What's up with that
idea guys are idea guys because they don't want to put in the effort. its never been more easy to learn skills to make a game even before ai crap
ai will only ever make approximations of ideas, never what you have in specifics
once you need to go into anything specific, its when effort needs to be put so an idea guy stops trying
frankly, you have more creative input in an anime dress up game than using ai
Hunyuan puts out a lot of open source stuff. They're very much like StabilityAI but Chinese and not fucking retarded.
Who said that?
if you gamble, you're... subhuman!!
Mom get off the Internet
lol why are you talking to people on Anon Babble instead of your ai?
I guess I just don't understand why you'd want to automate creative processes. Isn't the creation of the art the fun part? Isn't channeling your creativity into some produced artifact satisfying? Or do proponents of AI only value the produced end product?
It just seems so weird to me that people want to have AI create all the stuff I'd rather be creating and tinkering with in my free time. It's fun to draw. Is it fun to look at AI art? I don't understand why people are so eager to offload the creation of art so they can increase the volume at which they can consume art.
I just don't get it.
People people will be able to write 'write me a manga about X' and it just does that, rather than piecing together a bunch of images that look like shit, they will do that instead of reading it.
gambling is le good! i'll be such a big winner!
AI can already do better than hollywood at scenes and cgi as a quick example of you being wrong.
what do you get out of always being wrong?
Can't make AI slit its wrists because AI is making art now.
muh gambling
it's BOTW but like 10x bigger and better.
do you think people are running github copilot on their local machines? or gpt 4? retard you use a cloud service
No they won't. People are cattle and consume popular things to fit in. They're not interested in personalized entertainment, they can't discuss that manga with their friends, they can only discuss One Piece.
lmao fucking destroyed him
Yeah gambling is fun, mom. Get over it
bububut you're a loser if you gamble
Posted on Anon Babble's video game board
not making an ai to suffer at the press of a button
man what are you even doing with your life?
Be that as it may if someone was creating a game solo no funds no team no nothing they would be hard pressed to find a tool to make it happen better than AI.
Maybe that person has something that we can all enjoy or maybe just a few people either way i think it deserves a chance to exist. Humans made guns so now the weak can over come the strong like bears and shit. Now we have AI so the dumb can compete with the skilled. Maybe its not at that point yet but I do think its an interesting concept that can change the industry for the better.
but people will buy my game!!
This is YOU saying this. Only you sad and pathetic crabs give a shit about this. Everyone else just wants more and better games whether they make it themselves or not. We want to have fun, we want new experiences, you want to grift because you're poor.
get a job
Nobody is buying your AI generated manga faggot, they will just generate their own.
There will be no reason to purchase products in such a market
umm I'll use cloud service
So you'll just have a cloud service willing to give you 500 million dollars worth of electricity for free huh. That's cool, that way you'll be able to compete with companies spending 500 million to generate games.
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRS!
Modding communities exist. People do like to make things for themselves and share them and people then discuss them.
It's one of the coolest things about vidya for me, and AI will make the entire medium more like modding than what it is now.
Lower quality didn't lead to a losing battle for VHS against Betamax. You don't need high quality, you just need sufficient quality for people to accept your product. AI already lets anyone generate content that's ~90% of the quality of a professional artist's output, and that's plenty enough. No one really notices a couple missing fingers. Now AI only needs to be more affordable. This promise of an explosion of cheap, easily available, uncopyrightable content is why the barrier of entry must be brought as low as possible.
what are economies of scale
Retard.
This is just someone showing off their vrchat model.
oh no i'm not convincing anyone by being an asshole! better try to be diplomatic!
yeah fuck off
i actually do spend hours with ai creating custom stories and shit and find it to be alot of fun.It's like my own little echo chamber for shit i like and can read about without buying anything or putting forth a huge amount of effort.
Alot of people don't find socialization to be super rewarding. Sure we all get lonely and need people from time to time but im just fine if no one reads my create an adventure about the hobbit who likes latinas and sweet buns. It was fun for me and thats all it needed to be.
You have the right idea. That other guy is just a depressed loser that hates humanity.
Not everyone can be a director even though we all want to be the director. With AI that changes.
I think you need to be even more vague with your retorts. I can still tell you have no idea how to compete with a company spending 500 million on generating a game.
have you ever even liked a story in your life?
Did i sound mean in my first post or did you respond to me by mistake? I don't think i said anything overtly harsh considering 4chans tone. I'm just expressing my honest thoughts on the matter. If its not convincing thats fine.
this is the reality of AI content, it's not a matter of 'it will replace X group of people', it is that it will fundamentally destroy the market because people will be able to get exactly what they want with zero input from anyone else
There seem to be a handful of people perpetually butthurt about artists with patreons and such, they don't care about art whatsoever, they just want to see people more successful than them fail.
And there are those naive souls who believe that more accessibility for tools of production will result in greater creativity, when we have the entire human history as an evidence of the contrary.
why would they?
So do I but it didn't stop me from enjoying stuff made by other people. It's hard for me to surprise my own self
I guess I just don't understand why you'd want to automate creative processes.
That isn't what AI does. It enables a new creative process.
If you don't understand this you're a liar or a retard.
Souls aren't real go pray about it
The exact value of large scale solar power plants for communal use could maybe be argued, but personal solar panels can be a good investment.
ai uses their work
it floods spaces where art is posted making it harder for their stuff to get noticed in an already huge space
seeing a prompter call themselves an artist and say they put effort into their work fills anyone who does put real effort in their work with disgust
Easier to create concept art
Makes game development feasible for indie programmers who have no art skills
Can be used to create supplementary art in games, like for random paintings
AI art is essentially just a time saver. Though, for smaller dev teams, it makes higher quality art more attainable for their budget. Could use NovelAI, for example, to help make art for a visual novel
Isn't channeling your creativity into some produced artifact satisfying
Try proompting and you'll see how fun it is as well. Seeing whatever scenario you imagined in your head appear before your eyes in 30 seconds is fun.
Here is one that doesn't.
youtube.com
Shift Up, Mihoyo, EA, Ubisoft, Atlus, Sony, Actiblizzard, Valve, Epic and Disney don't hate it either.
tell ai to make something
it gives me things i don't want
how is that creative
nobody is buying ai generated things they can do themselves
Only leftists dislike India?
I saw what AI art did to porn
It turned it into pure slop
Yea actually I'm usually a fan of horror and fantasy I grew up reading Stephen kings work. Recently I've been reading the Drizzt Do'Urden books which i really recommend. Alot of manga I find to be fun reads Dorohedoro surprised me and was really fun I read it bit by bit on trip to the book store. Also I bought the Tomie collection recently.
Anything you found enjoyable recently? i'd like some new recommendations
I don't really see the appeal in using generative AI to "speed up" your workflow as an artist. Like you COULD but WHY would you? If you're an artist you like creating art, you like drawing, you wanna show off your ideas to others. So why have something do it for you? Seems like AI is only good if you hate making art which makes sense because everything made with AI is just shit. They got no faith in their ideas.
they use everyone else's work
If their stuff isn't noticed inbetween AI stuff, they're not good artists
Prompters aren't artists, so fair
The coolest part is that it will 1:1 transfer concept art to 3D art. Nothing will be lost in that conversion in the future which is fucking based.
x.com
orthographic views
Those are not even 3d models, meh
Plus it is just a Chinese slop
Why would you buy an indie/small team game if you can just prompt one yourself?
draw something
it's not what was in your head
how is that creative
I miss browsing cool upcoming artists on the net during the rise of digital art, always finding new inspiring styles and stuff, the possibilities seemed endless... Feels like barely anyone cares about art anymore, games suck, movies suck, anime and manga are becoming stale, aislop is rampant... It's so over. My fault for caring about art in the first place, or maybe i just miss my youth.
How so? Like an anon's example I saw earlier was "write me a manga about X". What was the new avenue of creativity that was utilized?
It's not like you're developing new techniques or styles because AI can only create things it's already been trained on. You give it a prompt to do make pastiches. I don't use AI, so maybe you can just tell it "make a picture of X in an innovative new style" and it'll make something amazing. But what is the creativity there? You just offloaded it the AI.
Genuinely interested in your perspective though.
The one generally true thing is that the older you get, the shitter a place the world is. It's why old people are all miserable.
you realize AI art only exists because actual artists created the data for AI to use, right? without artists there would be no AI art. It's not real AI anon, it doesn't think.
they use everyone else's work
prompters typically go after specific tags which can include artist names, or portfolio websites. its specifically going after good artist work
If their stuff isn't noticed inbetween AI stuff, they're not good artists
isn't the goal of ai to become as good as real artists though?
and it doesn't matter if the ai art is good or not, if it takes you 10 minutes to scroll through garbage, you're gonna give up looking for the good artist in that. ai floods places where it doesn't need to be.
Prompters aren't artists, so fair
then why is every shill telling me they are
doesn't rotate any of them
Yeah we all know what happens if he does lmao.
Awesome, AI can now create binary grids based on the image
I bet soon it will be able to cure cancer, they just need to build couple of new nuclear power plants for that
I think both of these are valid takes in their own right despite being contradictory in nature. I did find myself reading less physical books when i used AI more sometimes even taking Ai with me for my coffee in the park instead of a book. But its also true when you consume stuff in an echo chamber like that fresh ideas are hard to come by and are sometimes welcome. I think vapid superficial stuff like romance novels or power fantasy stuff like what alot of chinese comics have been reduced to will take a hit over time but genuine creativity will never be out of style.
I've tried it, it's a little fun, I won't deny that (also fun for porn), but it's nothing amazing either, I get much more enjoyment out of just crafting my own things.
no, its power is better used for making a billion more ghibli filters
Thats a pretty decent animation is that all ai?
What was the new avenue of creativity that was utilized?
Something was created using a tool.
It's not like you're developing new techniques or styles because AI can only create things it's already been trained on.
This is wrong.
I don't use AI,
You should, you will never learn about this without understanding how it works. If you're being genuine I highly recommend learning to use it, create something you in your head using AI.
Doesn't really jive with how people who are happy and joyful tend to live longer lives.
It textures every face. That tech is literally ancient by now you troglodyte.
I've messed around with the free Bing AI image generation for a little while when it came out and I just didn't see the appeal.
I was trying to use it to create a D&D avatar for an upcoming game in Mike Mignola's art style, but nothing it gave me looked good. And then eventually when I got something that I thought was passable, it wasn't quiiiite what I imagined in my head, so I just gave up and drew a shitty MS Paint. I enjoyed drawing it more than writing a bunch of prompts.
its specifically going after good artist work
Artists seek out and find specific artists as inspiration all the time.
isn't the goal of ai to become as good as real artists [...] if it takes you 10 minutes to scroll through garbage
So which is it? If AI produces garbage, then good artists will stand out just fine. If AI makes great art, then it's not garbage.
then why is every shill telling me they are
Don't know, probably people baiting because if you try to deny it they'll just point at various tools that artists use.
You realize AI's endgame is to replace humanity across the board, right? AI porn only exists to keep you blind and sated. In 10 years, half the world's jobs will be replaced by AI and you will be powerless to stop it. Your neetbux plan will be terminated because you voted in billionaire republicans over and over who think you are a parasite on the earth. You won't be able to get a job and you'll end up homeless taking cock up the ass by trannies.
he thinks he's safe
he thinks it can't happen to him
he thinks he is special
he thinks his job can't be done by AI
most people are angry unhappy fucks is the vibe i was getting from working around old people my last job
It generated a sprite sheet which some anon used to make the animation.
It textures every face
Yeah completely independently from one another, dumbass. It doesn't come together
robots aren't people, they're tools
a robot does not think or learn like a person
idea guys are idea guys because they don't want to put in the effort. its never been more easy to learn skills to make a game even before ai crap
AI will make it even easier, a good thing
ai will only ever make approximations of ideas, never what you have in specifics
there's no difference here
once you need to go into anything specific, its when effort needs to be put so an idea guy stops trying
projection
he thinks his job can't and won't be replaced by AI
lol
lmao even
i really want someone to make an AI clone of this place that people can run locally, where every post gets replies in the same style as you would expect here. i think i might go do that actually
do you realize [buzzwords]
do you realize that the so called AI will be trashed because said elites actually want to see is human suffering and AI is going to be too nice to comply with that shit
I guess you're right but that sucks
Yeah completely independently from one another
No you fucking retard. It rotates the model and outpaints it.
You are so fucking pathetic, just making shit up to ease your asshurt.
ai won't take over :)
i'm safe because i'm special :)
Yeah look at that perfect detail on the ground behind the house. Textured from every angle
Art is fun. Even if you're bad at it. Just do it. Try to create something without proooompting. I challenge all AIbros to post something they've hand drawn, without judgement. Art is healing.
most artists don't get paid to draw so ai was never threatening them
but it is annoying
Damn i need to learn to prompt and probably upgrade my computer, you using a local model or are there good uncensored image gens now?
fastests thread on Anon Babble again
learn a skill!?
never! i don't even want to look for my own entertainment or news!
only ai should feed me things! they'll never get corrupted by people who work against my interests!
Prompting is also fun. I challenge you to download comfyUI and create something locally on your PC
Sounds like their problem. One of the oldest living Americans for a while was Lawrence Brooks, he was a WW2 veteran who smoked a cigar and drank scotch every day. He enjoyed his life, spent time with his family, generally joyful, passed away at age 112 a few years back.
Having a completely shit outlook on life and hating everything unironically affects your health, it's part of why docs insist you try to be happy and not be all doom and gloom if you're doing chemotherapy for cancer, it legit helps improve your chances.
nitpicking 0.0.9, a 3 year old example
only medications will cure your asshurt
Nah fuck off, I want effortless satisfaction
Locally, current models based on Stable Diffusion XL are amazing. They do porn out of the box, they know the styles of danbooru artists out of the box. Don't even need loras or any of that shit now
Proompting can be fun, but I had much more fun making this.
Prompting is fun. Even if you're bad at it. Just do it. Try to create something without drawing gay birds. I challenge all artbabies to post something they've hand drawn, without judgement. Art is healing.
I felt the same way in the late 10s when most of the art turned into fucking porn or erotica of the latest gacha character. I can totally understand people seething at the patreonwhores. Almost nobody does things for fun these days.
well ai is not replacing care takers or animal workers anytime soon so some people are safe
Yeah, that's pretty dope LMAO
Even assuming you're right, it sure as fuck wouldn't be on a scale of 10 years, that shit would take so much more time to realize.
I miss browsing cool upcoming artists on the net during the rise of digital art, always finding new inspiring styles and stuff, the possibilities seemed endless...
when you don't realize AI is just exactly what you experienced but 100000x more fun because you can share prompts and models and loras and extensions and services and frontends
Thats very interesting anon ill take that information to heart as live my life.
The end product kind of look like shit still.
ORGY PORGY
I mean, is art ONLY erotic? Like I get you're trolling me, but honestly, I pose this question to hardcore AI supporters in this thread. So often the conversation drifts to "It's bad because it's ugly", but there are thousands, of not millions of artists that agree that the corporate world foments and supports ugliness. So why take it out on all artists? Don't you think there are those that are also trying to cultivate beauty (including erotic beauty?!)
Locally, current models based on Stable Diffusion XL are amazing. They do porn out of the box, they know the styles of danbooru artists out of the box. Don't even need loras or any of that shit now
Damn thats improved a lot then i need to upgrade my computer then its a potato.
thanks anon im going to get into it.
well, show me a good game made with AI
hi jules
A robot is an operator, not a tool. It doesn't need to think like a person to replace a person if it has enough cold "intelligence" to perform at the person's job.
Our current AI is LLMs. What they do is they vectorize your input (any format, it's all just string/numeric data to them in the end), compare it to their vectorized training data, predict vectors from that, then convert the output into a human-readable form. There's no cognition or comprehension in there anywhere. No AI model has ever actually "read" your written input, but as long as the data types being handled are structured, they're predictable. Modern LLMs are simply really good at predicting (calculating) desired outcomes.
Good enough to start replacing artists, programmers etc.
lol who's paying you?
you're such a lying sake of shit
stop pretending you have any human emotion, you actively hate that connection. thats why you shill ai
hi :D
AI will just tell you how many old people paid enough into The Economy to keep alive and the rest can go rot
Why are you asking such a retarded question? I'm sorry I offended you with my obvious bait but at the same time it was just as genuine as yours was. Learn to prompt. You can make gay birds with AI too.
the late 00s and early 10s were really a different time for art. i remember browsing deviant art would give you artists trying to create worlds rather than chase trends
webcomics felt like they could be anything, not just be stale copies of whats already popular
Sounds amazing sign me UP
They wouldn't be his gay birds, though.
Okay, and?
What the hell are you talking about? Go to any AI site and you'll see insanely huge communities sharing and discussing things 24/7. It's an absolutely incredible artistic movement that you're sleeping on because you literally have autism.
a person needs to tell an ai what to do
stop talking like robots have human rights
There's an AI thread on every board now, pretty sure it's a thriving community. More thriving than Anon Babble where people just shit on each other because they're as miserable as (You)
Even if you're bad at it
You're either a masochist or a talentfag that never struggled much if at all
he turned his noodles into pipes
Soulless...
Concept art for my new Dragon Ball fan game guys, trust
you don't get it anon, you weren't there
so stop lying like you have any clue what that anon is talking about
you're a shill who will lie through their teeth because thats what you need to do to live
if ai communities are so great and care so much about each other, why do ai shills try so hard to be seen on artist spaces? why are they more pleased with schadenfreude than creating? go back to your containment. if you say ai shills care about the work of others than stay with them
I agree that there's a bigass AI community out there (the constant updates in the local LLM space make my head spin) but I wouldn't call those threads thriving, it's the same handful of super-autists sitting in a bizarre chatroom avatarfagging and blogging just like so many Anon Babble threads. AI isn't really relevant to it at all, the DALLE header is just given janitorial exception.
okay then stay there
AI porn threads tend to have the most thriving discussions
Trannies are the number one supporters of AI. Them and Indians.
Where is LIST to put these aifags in their place Anon Babble?
Time to coral them back to their containment!
There is actually a successful-lite webcomic on Webtoons that was made entirely with AI. But there are also countless fail slops. The thing I notice is that most AI webcomics are just generic and boring as hell.
I messed around with ai around 2022/2023 mainly with stablediffusion, i experimented with models, loras and controlnet, and i did have fun for a few weeks but ultimately i felt hat it was all very samey in the end so i lost interest.
Huh? This is an AI thread. You're in one right now
the people who put their slop on storefronts
I know exactly what you're talking about but it's funny that you think the internet was some secret club. I'm probably older than you are too so I've seen more artistic movements as well.
You simply hate art. Things have changed and now art is worth slightly less monetarily and artists are crying bloody murder about it and you've taken that side instead of appreciating what new artists are doing with the new tools.
This video was made specifically for people like you but you're probably too spastic to watch ti
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I wouldn't call those threads thriving
The definition of thriving doesn't change just because you don't like the content
this thread asks a question, ask your stupid questions in your containment threads if you don't want disagreement
Autonomy isn't a necessary factor. You could tell the AI to "do whatever you want whenever you want" and leave the model active in that state, and it'd sporadically activate and do random shit without any extra input. Likewise, people sometimes need instructions to do their job right. An artist might need to be commissioned to produce specific type of art, and without said commission might just not draw anything at all for a time.
Point is, an AI-driven robot can pick up and use a tool the same as a human operator. A tool can't pick up and use another tool because it's not an operator. This is what's happening around AI art too; the AI does all the work after being commissioned by the prompter. It's virtually a boss->operator->tool chain.
Which comic would that be, out of curiosity?
Quote where I said robots have human rights, you have one chance.
I'm watching this video right now and he says that AI belongs in the landfill mass market art, which he contrasts with real art.
no actually YOU hate art!
lmao look at it struggle
it was all very samey
there's more variety than whatever you were talking about since AI can do more than illustrations
nta but he's kinda right. If you're not fascinated by AI art you don't really like art. Maybe you like the process of drawing but you're not interested in art
you're equating how humans find inspiration as similar to how robots gather data
you fundamentally do not understand how human brains process information and stimuli to how machines "learn"
you must also think humans and cars also work the same because we both need "fuel"
you think your bonehead ignorance makes your broad thoughts sound smart because you are an ignoramus
Good.
Genuinely funny if that's how you're going to understood his words. Don't drool too much watching the rest, retard.
no counterargument
as expected
yeah anon, i must hate art because i think someone spending every waking moment of their life on something because they wanted to get it right is more fascinating than a dopamine addict pressing button
nooooo i should consider them equal!
You can still do art regardless of how good AI is or not, just don't expect to make a profit from it, I will simply not pay for your transition meds haha
there are more people in discussions about AI art in AI art threads than artists on Anon Babble, and they're actually posting art
They really were. I didn't think it would be so short lived.
Why would likening processes of learning imply robots should have human rights? Weird leap of logic. You wanna believe human artists have some unquantifiable creative spark that a machine could never replicate, be my guest, the created output looks the same and what I care about.
I think you should give it another go. Models nowadays are vastly different from back when it started. AI models now are constantly getting updating and you can do SO MUCH with it now. I'm not even joking. Depending for the type of stuff you want to do. it's actually better than human drawn.
Definitely take a look at the local tools as well, like inpanting and multidiff, and regional promping you can do so many new things that you couldn't before, and if you get a bit bored of that too, there is always Video gen that seems to be popping up a lot of the place too
You don't have an argument because you haven't watched the video yet. You just hinted that this was going to be your takeaway which outs you as a desperate retard and I wanted to make fun of you for that.
Yeah you must because you keep talking about the process and not the result. The process is not art. Art is the end product. And you don't sound like you're interested in the end product, you're just interested in the process. Which is fine but the process is not art, not unless you're performing
Something was created using a tool.
That just feels like such a sterile and reductive version of creativity that it's hard for me get behind it. It's just so strange because usually I see Anon Babble talk nonstop about how art of the past was so much more talented and sophisticated in technique and vision and that's what was beautiful about it, but now it feels like so many people are going to bat for offloading all of that effort and learning onto a program someone else made.
I understand the value of tools in the creative process, but there's something so different and rewarding about training my body to be able to produce the things I think about in only the way I think about them, tinged with the myriad experiences that make up my life.
When I messed around with AI image generation, it could never create the things in my head. The things I draw, even when I draw them shitty, are so much more accurate to my vision than trying to put it in a prompt because language is a narrow choke point for imagination and perspective. "Apple" to me is probably a different mental image and association than "apple" to you or to an AI.
And "apple slightly rolled onto its side and the stem, with trace residue of dirt still collected around its base, is facing towards me; the apple is colored #8D5A56 with a slight gradient and shine, using lighting from coordinates X, Y at 3:46 PM EST as filtered through a glass window with minor imperfections due to its age of 22 years" is going to conjure different images in our heads.
It just seems like AI proponents are overly concerned with having a finished commodity rather than having any thoughts or care about the creative processes that influence said commodities. I guess if you're aim is to simply consume products, then I'm sure AI is very appealing because it will allow you to very quickly and efficiently create a product for consumption.
This is exactly why you hate art, yes. You care about the process and not the result based on the idea. You probably enjoy so much literal dog shit because you like how some unironically mentally ill person spent days on it. Am I wrong?
you are saying that just because a human and use their eyes and be inspired that a machine should be allowed to gather billions of images of data
It's a blessing since talent and hard work are for losers
I really do think AI has surpassed artists when it comes to pin ups. It has been so long since I even saw a human made art because AI is just that more interesting to look.
I pity "artists" that got into it for the money.
idiots like you do not understand they're one and the same
how you do something is just as important as what you want to do
this is how i know you're a lying shill. you do not understand what it means to like something
because you do not understand how someone can not like something
people who love video games do not love all video games, they hate most of them because they do not compare to what they love
go back to your containment
AI artists works just as hard. And you need to have talent and knowledge to make good prompts and models.
lol
see
I am watching the video right now, you sub-80 IQ mongoloid. He literally says, not once but twice, that AI will be disruptive to mass market "landfill" (his words not mind) crap, which he contrasts with real art that is enjoyed by few people. I'm writing this post and he made this prediction a THIRD time, this time he literally calls AI a "Frankestein monster". Here's a timestamp youtu.be
No need to get mad if you didn't understand the anon's reply desu.
I might get into it again but i've switched to an AMD gpu in the meantime, not sure it will get me far. Anyway i'll keep it in mind.
we need this IRL STAT
ai shills tell you that ai makes art effortless than then say that only a select few are good at ai
Feels good that all the wannabe art majors can't stop AI, all they can do is bitch about it. Its wild seeing them spin around in circles trying to convince us of their vague "high minded noble ideas" about art or whatever. Like I just don't give a fuck. Do they really think we are gonna deprive ourselves of stuff we like because a person didn't make it? Do they think if they shitpost and flame enough that it will break our resolve? I think they just need to go back to church and pray about it.
Yes, just like a human would do that if they had the capability. You're like the people denying how 'native Americans' and settlers were equally brutal just because the 'natives' didn't have the same capabilities.
It's just so strange because usually I see Anon Babble talk nonstop about how art of the past was so much more talented and sophisticated in technique and vision and that's what was beautiful about it, but now it feels like so many people are going to bat for offloading all of that effort and learning onto a program someone else made.
Sane people care about the results, you care about the process which is an actual mental illness you have. You invest into your ego, the fact you trained to do x. That's what's important to you and you want to rub dicks with other egoists who have done the same or whatever.
You can prompt images of those old styles from the old masters. Old dead pc98 styles or retro anime or 2D or early 3D and people are going to like that because of the result. The process is for fart sniffers.
Yeah... it's a bit fucked in that case.... I think you can still do gens fine but you won't be able to use like half of the cool stuff
The tech is gonna improve many times over as time passes so tired of these retards having tunnel vision on the present moment STFU
because you voted in billionaire republicans
fuck off leftypol
a 70% increase on taxes below 15k doesn't mean shit because people in that bracket aren't paying taxes in the first place
Someone's salty that he's a talentless hack.
Same but AI has been stagnating a bit too, which sucks. It'll speed up eventually but the past couple of months has been kinda slow imo. For pictures anyway, video is getting so fucking good.
but thats not how humans process information is it?
i bet you think actual boots are involved in booting up your computer
You realize AI's endgame is to replace humanity across the board, right?
Good
i have legit never noticed anyone crying about ai art on either side of the argument outside of Anon Babble
in fact i don't think i see ai art outside of Anon Babble and rule34 until i -ai_generated that is
not learning 3D modeling, sculpting and texturing
How are you going to lucid dream on demand? Do you not hear the call?
rule34 now autofilters ai
its literally over for proompters
Which is true, it's a skill much like any other.
The barrier to entry is low but the skill ceiling is so high. That is why you have like 1% of sloppers going up to the best artists, and even surpassing them in some ways
He's talking about pop art, which he makes. It all ends up in the landfill, it's just art we use for entertainment. It's not a granite statue that should be protected. It's things people buy for fun. That does not say it's bad and he's very clear on that point.
You are an actual sub-80 IQ mongoloid projecting but keep watching, maybe you'll learn something.
These threads make it sound like artists were swimming in money before ai.
okay shad
how you do something is just as important as what you want to do
Wrong. You're just a sperg that can't draw as well as AI.
It is. You believe the human brain to be a perfect design by the Almighty, categorically incomparable to anything else. I don't, I think it's a just a brain, an incredibly efficient and sophisticated organic computer, but not incomparable.
most ai shills are from the only 3rd world country in the world that was incapable of making art for cheap commissions
people here just talk about furry porn artists probably
Its really interesting how most of Anon Babble simultaneously complains about everything in games, movies, anime and etc being low effort slop, and also at the same time vehemently defends the use of AI and hates artists, effectively promoting the same slop they supposedly hate. The real answer is that most people here are not only contrarians, but shit-eating contrarians, people who will complain all day about games like Elden Ring being bad while at the same time playing chinese gacha trash all day. Turns out Anon Babble was the real cancer all along
I'm getting a laptop with a 4050 6gb next week (inb4 >gaming laptops), it's not much but i'll see what i can do with it
implying I'll die in a ditch
I'm not gonna be homeless. I'll burn my house to the ground around me before I lose it.
This is all true. I've generated hundreds of thousands of pictures since SD came out. I've spent more time prompting than most artists have spent drawing. The result is just more variety and more art.
no one was stopping you from being an artist
ai can never make you one because it was always inside of you
I don't really think that is the case desu. Ai is a vast combination of systems. I think there has been some pretty amazing models coming out and NaiV4.5 is just around the corner. There is always something to do and to enjoy with it.
For pictures anyway, video is getting so fucking good.
see? There is always something going, and I think that both picture and video are going to be walking together from now on
He's not saying that it's bad he's just saying that it's disposable trash with no actual value!!!!
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
when photoshop came out people everywhere started freaking out it would be the death of art
people posted pictures of early photoshop deviantart-level crappy content while saying "See?!? This is art right now, this is what photoshop does, it's SOULESS! This is FINAL TRUE EVIDENCE that this new computer technology is NOT REAL ART, that it KILLS art, that it will DELETE creativity from existence, look how BAD it is!"
meanwhile new art communities started blooming and sharing tips and tricks, the technology became more refined, the content only kept increasing in quality and diversity
when you pointed at it the complainers said "it's... it's exception! It doesn't count! It doesn't mean anything! You know I'm still right! You can ALWAYS tell when something is shopped and SOULESS!"
except they couldn't actually tell they literally did not have the ability to tell at sight what they were so very very angry to complain about
they gradually became quieter and quieter, but still would not die without one last cringe
"b-b-but don't you see the COMPLEX ETHICAL CONTROVERSY of anyone just being able to steal art from any artist and remix it with photoshop and blend it and call it their own?"
they were politely informed you could already do that with papers and scissors and glues, just print art and cut it and glue it and call it your own, it's hardly a new thing, why does it matter if new technology makes it faster? It is the same crime, remedied by the same answer, which is to ask artists to share their sources and to boo off-stage those who will not
"NOOOOO IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAAAAT"
It took fucking 30 years for this shit to die and now AI makes it start all over again.
OH MY SCIENCE
yeah i never brought up god or thinking there's anything "special" about the human brain in a mystical sense
fundamentally, the human brain does not work like how robots do
we can't even make artificial ant brains, and how LLMs work is not similar to how a fraction of how a brain actually processes info
>when photoshop came out people everywhere started freaking out it would be the death of art
Source.
I wasted my time
I'm sorry anon but you still got time
Cope harder.
I didn't' say it was dead, we're just not moving much. NAI isn't even ahead of local anymore and local has been moving sideways with new models instead of upwards.
Camp Peculiar is semi-loved compared to other AI trash, but successful ≠ good. there also another but they only partly used AI "Quantum Entanglement"
why don't you bring up your incredibly interesting points to an ai who will actually "read" them
just talk to ais from now on okay
What are the implications of AI art for video games?
higher quantity of low or at most middling quality products
what are my options for video? local is rough, 30 min for poor results, pixverse is flagging all my stuff and only allows 3 per day
I didn't waste my time I made art for people to enjoy. Tens of millions have seen it and I have had lots of fun.
yeah i never brought up god or thinking there's anything "special" about the human brain in a mystical sense
Sure you did, you're doing it every time you insist it is fundamentally different from anything else. You have no evidence of it beyond faith.
you're the one coping, a bad drawing from a human is more valuable than ai slop
I struggled immensely. I only started drawing about 8 months ago. You have to forgive yourself for making mistakes. Do you get angry at a toddler because he falls over when he's learning how to walk?
That is such a bullshit take. If you know exactly what you want, and you know how to prompt and use the tools available to you to express yourself, you are an artist.
The only difference with Ai is that, it replaces the mechanical side of things. Simple as. You are still an artist at the end of the day, much like any other creative endeavor.
Oh man, you're mad.
game prices going up
developers start using AI more and more to cut costs
games prices do not drop
AI is going to kill trannylators
AI is going to kill artists
AI is going to kill voice actors
holy shit, based
you're not making anything with ai though, the bot is
as far as i'm concerned, you just replaced google images for yourself
you had more creative input using soul calibur
AI trannies want to be artists so bad it's hilarious for as much as they pretend to hate them. It's like an ugly girl jealous that hot women exist.
its off by default but thank god it exists
10 pages of the same shit gen with very minor differences
such a nuisance
It's a commission you're making, not the art. The AI is the artist.
Artists will starve (this is a good thing) and companies will be able to churn out the same low-quality design-by-committee titles we've been getting for the past 10-15 years at a vastly accelerated rate. (This is a bad thing.)
Google it, people were still saying digital art isn't real art under 10 years ago.
Are you unironically underaged? It took people decades to swap over to digital and they were seething the entire time. Some still are.
The human brain isn't categorically perfect, and could in theory be replicated, but modern computer science isn't anywhere close to what an actual brain is because it's still just 1s and 0s on circuitboards.
If you wanted to replicate the capabilities of the human brain, then you would need to replicate how the human brain actually operates, ergo with neurons, chemicals, etc, not chips and what's comparatively rudimentary binary code.
Anon Babble complains about modern games being slop
wants to open the floodgates to infinite slop
things go from being 90% shit to 99%
I can understand enabling the 0.1% of people that could make something great with AI, but it it really worth the deluge of even shitter lower effort stuff?
You already have low quality asset flips and way to many games competing for peoples time, will AI really rectify this, or make it dozens of times worse?
Except you still have to draw it yourself with digital art. AI is just copy pasting other people's work.
That anon learned a new skill
That anon connected with so many other people that were also enjoying a new hobby
That anon shared and (possibly) took requests from other artists and anons alike building a community around it.
That anon spend their time having fun and being creative, exploring ideas that he couldn't otherwise
And yet you are here, seething like a retard
No one hates artists, we hate annoying retarded faggots like you.
learning a skill
connecting with people
community
creativity
Don't care.
people were still saying digital art isn't real art under 10 years ago.
Retards were, because they though drawing on a computer was the same thing as what proompting is now.
no i actually hate artists
drawnigger cucks ruined this website with their attentionwhoring and never actually delivering for anything other than their circlejerks
normal people hate bad artists but have favorite artists who's work they appreciate. if you've never had a favorite video game, why the fuck are you even here?
ai shills hate everyone and everything, only viewing art as a means for profit and consumption
I'm 40 years old. I was there. Some of the last embers of that cringe still exist, here, I googled a 2016 article in 30 seconds and you can do it too.
Some artists are likable enough that I feel bad for them, but the vast majority of artists are insufferable retards that make me wish for their demise even more.
I did the same thing but with actual skill, so yeah
You're just lying to yourself about the processes of creating AI art. You'll stay retarded, depressed, and will keep acting like a spastic until you educate yourself.
If it's so easy, recreate this image. You can prompt it right?
Oh no, learning things take actual effort and investment, woe is me!
You are emotionally and spiritually weak beyond belief.
but AI has been stagnating a bit too
Noobai has an insane knowledge and variety of poses, and chroma can understand very complicated prompts in terms of composition and poses too. I'd say the last year has seen the biggest leap in terms of comprehension in general.
emotionally weak
lol
spiritually
I'm an atheist cope
AIfags want all the credit without any of the work or effort which is why nobody will ever respect them. 99% of the general public rolls their eyes anytime they see AIslop.
i don't care what a robot says
thats why ai art is meaningless
ai shills can only lie
Proof? I genuinely doubt it because if you did why would you act like such an insecure faggot hating on other artists?
These people are sure that they will be the part of 0,1%.
Life is meaningless and you will never find "meaning" in art
this is the kind of person who loves ai
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No lie, you can type in DALL-E moon on the archive and see hundreds of generated slop pics where DALL-E just copy pasted the same moon.jpeg on every pic.
It's still just SDXL 1girl simulators, we're still miles off from Dalle comprehension. I find there to be barely any difference in what you posted and what people were doing in 1.5.
There was multiple cases where the "current" artists got really pissy when something knew came along. Usually availability of art supplies and mediums (artists got really bitchy about photography).
Nta but PS, powergoo, digital devices in general, etc. artists are the biggest whiners in the world historically. Would say trannies too but they overlap with artists.
Yes I'm making something, I'm expressing myself, I have the vision inside of my head and I'm using AI (a tool) to help me achieve that vision. You can be mad all you want because you might have wasted years of your live doing something that you might not even liked.
I did control every last bit of my gen.
I'm okay with AI director and AI creative as well. Art is just another way for expression of self. and artist is another word for creative.
I'm the one with the vision, therefor I'm the artist.
Hate? No? I said I'm sorry you spent time doing that
Can create images, music and videos with a fucking text (or spoken) prompt
Instead of people marveling at something that was quite literally science fiction only a few decades ago, they are by and large condemning it
We are witnessing technological miracles in our lifetime and all these people are worried about is if their work is depreciated or not. They really are like luddites.
Concession accepted. Just tie the noose already you're annoying.
I don't really care about Dalle, that's not a tool.
If you can't handle the fact that you aren't immediately going to be good at something the first time that you try it, then you are in fact crushingly weak.
atheist
Not in the religious sense, you braindead fuckhead, in the sense that you have no fucking faith in yourself or your capabilities.
ai shills are atheists, nihilists and hedonists
what a respectable bunch, they are surely on the side of the right because they hate leftists so much
You don't have any creativity, you might as well be an NPC bot from Oblivion since you're too worthless to do any of it yourself.
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Billions must try. Learn to forgive yourself for not immediately being good at something. Step out of your comfort zone and just have fun.
It's still just SDXL 1girl simulators
Massive, MASSIVE skill issue.
I'm a nihilistic materialist atheist hedonist blow me
AI art is an actual skill.
What are the implications of AI art for video games?
Indie stuff with AAA presentation. For better or worse.
everything
You didn't program the lighting, or the shading, which is what differentiates it from any other drawing.
Based.
why promptchads the only anons posting art? where is all of this supposed great organic drawfag art at?
Retards were,
Professionals and hobbyists alike. This guy mentions it and he works at Disney.
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because they though drawing on a computer was the same thing as what proompting is now.
It is, you fucking retard.
Why? You probably have a tiny and circumcised penis not worth blowing.
i just post in these threads to bait people anon, i enjoy a good doodle
friday drawthreads are the most fun part of Anon Babble
A program being able to copy paste is seen as revolutionary by worthless hacks and frauds.
Lmao
Nah anon. you are getting left behind. You should see some of the newer stuff.
Actual skill issue
you don't need to an artist to like art
i mean we're on a board for video games
Don't care cope. Send me your female relatives to perform fellatio on me. No? Ok sexbots have me covered.
This is like 6 months old bc I haven't drawn Anon Babble art in a long time, but fuck it I'll post.
this. thats why the copyright laws will take over later on once it starts making big corps lose money
You do not understand how generative AI works
Where's the art? All I see is slop.
Best thing is that its progress doesn't depend on AI "artists", I could ignore all the prompters and go straight to the source and get even better results.
Playing with outdated tech
lmaoooooooooooo
extremely boring basic nothingness
Fuck off you know I'm right. I'm neck deep into AI I'm not shitting on it, I'm just saying it's gotten stale in the image space because barely anything has changed in 2 years. Image quality is up but I never cared about that. Usability is more important.
The ones making commissions are also the ones with visions. They're still not the artists.
where the big booty anime girl?
Is there any way to prevent an image from being used in AI training? Like I dunno, some kind of code in the file type or like weird invisible watermark sort of thing?
It literally just copy pastes shit from the dataset. Nothing about it is impressive unless you're a room temperature IQ moron that's easily swindled.
go straight to the source and get even better results.
Go on, where is the "straight to the source" artists that can draw better than:
it's sad that you think that and not that AI threads are the most fun
=)
Oh by the gods, go on and replicate that picture. Go on and prompt it. You should be easily capable of doing so if it's "basic nothingness"
I mean I drew this during break time. I don't get why people can't just do both, it's not like the AI handcuffs you.
I struggled immensely.
I only started drawing about 8 months ago.
Thanks for proving my point
I want this. What's the name of this software?
I especially like hearing from younger artists. They dont have much life experience so their entire personality was formed around art and then seeing them think they can stop entire industries from using cost-cutting technology with arguments like "bruh on god fr :skull emoji: skill issue, pick up a pencil i stg"
As soon as I call you a pajeet, your AI career is over. I'm just going to keep calling everyone saaars. That will show them
10 pages of the same shit gen with very minor differences
why the actual fuck do people do this? like just pick the best gen from the idea you had, don't upload every single attempt at one fucking idea jesus christ sometimes there's hundreds of them for what was probably 1 or 2 prompts
LOL no thats not how it works bitch.
now his ego is triggered over the most boring corpo cover art imaginable
Bruh I don't know how you did that and I don't care to learn how, it's boring as FUCK.
People have no attachment to their slop, you can just throw it out there, if somebody insults it saying it's slop who cares ? It's just slop so no big deal.
People are more conservative with their own drawings/paintings cause they're personal, if you post something you're proud of and someone calls it trash you'll get your feefees hurt. Doesn't happen with slop cause nobody's proud of it.
Nightshade
Human artist studies the work of the masters
Adopts techniques and knowledge from said works to incorporate them in his/her own works
This is inspiration and completely fine
AI scours the internet for the works of countless artists
Creates a dataset that has instructions on what different things are "supposed" to look like, in all kinds of different styles
Creates new, original works via usage of this dataset
This is stealing and bad
It's essentially the exact same thing. An artists collective experience is their dataset.
What is stopping me from doing the same but better?
you need to learn
So? Even if there's something I don't know I can either research it or even program it myself, got plenty of experience on art and programming.
variety is cool. If you like 1 pic why not generate 50 of them that are similar but different?
Still don't see your pictures
People have no attachment to their slop
Lol yes they do, there have been multiple proompters in the past who don't want to share their proompts aka google searches.
it's fun
no it's not it sucks
wooooooooow can't handle grinding and pain for countless hours??? fucking weak
I don't know how it works, that's why I'm asking.
nightshade and uhh shit I forget the other other DO NOT WORK
it's fucking hilarious seeing artists fuck up their art thinking it does though, but it's also sad lol
>wooooooooow can't handle grinding and pain for countless hours??? fucking weak
WORK HARD
I WANT DOPAMINE!
2000 to mid 2010's
Commission art work
Give short description
Artist shits out something from description
Everyone happy
Mid 2010s
Give short description
artist: I need a reference bro
Okay, fine.
I need more then this bro. You said pink, what kind of pink? How big the boobs?
Get more references.
Commission is finished.
Way off despite all that back and forth.
Artist: You need better references bro
FAST FORWARD TO EZ AI
Artist wants reference.
Use AI to shit out references for various things (pose, clothing, proportions, etc.)
Bro you're using AI that's not cool.
ARTISTS ARE TOTAL FUCKING HACKS. APPRECIATE WRITERS. At least writers actually create something from nothing.
AI can program now I had chatgpt do my college progamming course for me and I got an A LOL
Now you got your answer, what you are asking for is impossible. Anything you upload to the internet can be fed into AI to make more of it and there is nothing you can do to stop it. So either make peace with it or don't upload any of your art.
It is
It objectively isn't, you need to learn and apply technique when drawing or painting with ANY medium, be it a real life physical medium or a digital medium where you interact with it using a mouse or/and stylus. This entails both muscle memory and a theoretical understanding of the techniques.
Writing rudimentary instructions to an LLM to make it automatically conjure up a picture based on probability of what you wrote doesn't take ANY kind of skill or understanding of art (proompters usually have a poor understanding of light and shadow, to name just some), you aren't actually crafting any part of the image in any sense.
Did you structure and sketch the base for the image? Did you draw lines and then clean them? Did you color and shade the image?
Did you sculpt and texture any models? Did you build or light any scenes?
No, you didn't do any of that shit, the LLM just gambles up an approximation based on what words you gave it.
I know this for a fact because I have spent about 6 months proompting nearly every day. It's dead easy and I don't have to exert any effort or use any of my actual understanding of art to make the image appear.
Writing a proompt isn't even on the level of writing program code, because program code actually has consistent results based on what you write.
Should art be made with recognition in mind, though? Is it not better if art cannot be monetized, and so is made only for the purposes of self expression?
My pictures are boring and so are almost everyone elses because the models are dumb. They look nice, I like them, but it's getting stale. That comic was just prompted making that closed model like 5 trillion times more advanced than what we can play with. I want something like that.
Better yet, then what's stopping me from doing the same as AI "artists"?
What does it do exactly and why doesn't it work?
I'm entitled to not have to learn crafts, otherwise the world isn't fair
It objectively isn't,
It is.
You are using a tool to create something. You can whine and cry all you want about how easy a tool is to use but it doesn't matter, the function and process is fundamentally identical.
Not even AIfags care about other AIfag's slop. They'll quickly get bored of it since they never had any real attachment to art in the first place.
If people can rub their eyeballs on your art they can use it to create art of their own. With their hands, with photoshop, or with AI. I don't get it, just don't share your art at all if it bothers you.
Anon, it's not a linear process. For every good day I make something I'm proud of, I have three where I shit out something depressingly boring or ugly. All I can do is laugh and try again. Look at these fucking faces dawg. This is embarrassing.
Literally a nothingburger problem.
Yeah, I'd say 70% of artists will no longer be required in the future. But there will always be a bedrock that will be required. That's so obvious. Only the useless eater artists with pronouns in the bio should be shaking in their boots.
I spent a week or so working on one AI piece and got a bunch of (You)'s.
Nothing is. You can do whatever you want with AI because no one owns it. You can even run it locally.
because the models are dumb
That's a shitter cope
I find the uncanny valley of AI easier to deal with then mid tier animations.
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You're never going to be credited for your slop, Raqeesh. No matter how many times you scream about it being a tool over and over.
they're all in it for themselves
Did you also create a Minecraft world when it generated for you?
I'm good.
I was at a much lower level despite drawing for 2 years
inb4 uhhhhhhhh you didn't draw for 25 hours a day doesn't count
inb4 uhhhhhhhh you didn't use this specific method of practice doesn't count
IT'S A TOOL, CHUD!
Exactly, so if anyone can do it I don't see a reason to spend time on it, like people that hike on national parks.
It adds grain to the pic which they say confuses training algorithms.
1. No one cares, no one is scraping your shit art.
2. The noise is denoised by the algorithm(lol, lmao).
3. Even if the noise magically did something it wouldn't matter because the signal of some autist on twitter's art is so infinitesimally small you would never see the negative.
i did say they're fun to shitpost in though
I do it because it makes my dick hard and enables me to cheat on college assignments. It's also usually better than googling for answers.
It adds grain to the pic which they say confuses training algorithms.
This did work, but only for a short while.
I don't rate like that. I have immense compassion for my fellow artists. I basically just followed a formula of drawing from imagination, seeing what I thought I didn't like, and then studying that subject. So I'd make ugly arms, draw a bunch of IRL or anime arms, repeat, "just draw" again. You're not a failure dude. Just try again.
I guess some do... Go figure.
I don't really know if it's a good thing or a bad thing but that's just how it is in most cases. People can't help but care about the stuff they do which is why they do it in the first place. If they didn't care they wouldn't draw or paint.
APPRECIATE WRITERS.
lol
writers get mega mogged by AI even worse than artists, nobody just brings them up because they're so irrelevant in the first place
You literally know I'm right
mindbroken by AI
writers get mega mogged by AI even worse than artists
When though
Every artist has their own unique artstyle and by using AI, you completely forego any of it by having it look like generic slop. Not too mention that everyone can tell it's AIslop especially nowadays.
plain shitty image compression hurts AI way more, so much image data on the web is fucking garbage quality
It never worked, it has had 0 effect on anything except making some art look worse. It's sad, and funny.
I virtually have no idea what you're rambling about. Literally just try diversifying your prompts.
Fuck you chud, I'll just inpaint the hand until the machine gets it right, that'll show you!
AI this, artists that, but did you know that 1/4 of US senators and congressmen have dual citizenship with Israel?
pic is not AI btw
I like taking SFW artists and feeding AI their images so it can copy their style to make the porn that they refuse to make.
variety is cool.
sure
If you like 1 pic why not generate 50 of them that are similar but different?
my question was less about generating 50 and more about uploading all 50, when posting one is more than enough
artists have unique styles of AI too and we can nitpick your art too, post it
There are no AI artists, just AI creators.
We don't care about the artist label. It's literally a non-debate.
I mean I don't doubt that there is a brow-piercing somewhere with green dreads who smells of cheap beer who considers himself an artist for generating weird media synthesis projects.
AIfags doing anything besides clicking the generate button.
KEKAROO
How else are they going to prove they "worked hard"
HAHAHA that's super cute :D
That's the only really fun part of AI to me, I can make hardcore loli gangrape porn using the style of anti-porn artists.
The inflated sense of self-importance in this thread is palpable.
AI is slop, it will never be recognized!
You will never be considered an artist!
This is lacking the indomitable human spirit!
I guarantee you that over half of the people posting in this thread huff their own farts daily.
Yeah I care about results and everything else is irrelevant, the salt from people over it is so delicious.
artists have unique styles of AI
Some people just want to share what they made. I don't spam anywhere near that much but I can understand it. People did this before AI too by the way, which kinda outs you as braindead.
And then there's this retard.
Do you also live on a diet of Mtn. Dew and hotpockets because cooking was too frustrating for you?
slop
art
indomitable human spirit
lol idc about any of that at all people can stay mad
POV you find a homeless drawfag
People did this before AI too by the way, which kinda outs you as braindead.
but we aren't talking about them, now are we?
Yer a good dude Anon I can tell you have good intentions but at the end of the day most people (myself included) just don't enjoy sucking at something and seeing little to no improvement. I'd rather do something I enjoy from the get go than something I might maybe someday like if I ever get good at it
YOU WASTED YOUR TIME LEARNING ART I CAN DO WHAT YOU DO IN LESS TIME
dude, you didn't do shit, AI did all the work
yyyyou huff your own farts
not to shitpost in to enjoy the art, so many threads every day
You will never be considered an artist!
this one is true
NTA however I prefer take out lol stay mad, you cant make me cook.
"nobody hates artists"
posts endlessly about revenge fantasies against artists for some reason
lol based
Nah trannies are fucking livid about AI youtube.com
it's incredibly fucked up that someone as stupid as you exists
It's your own loss if you can't take care of yourself like an actual adult.
no argument
man fuck this bullshit waited 30 minutes for this garbage I hate ai
You will never make me learn crafts
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Not AI
Cmon
It's gotten a lot better with hands but yeah it does lack uniqueness as someone who's really autistic about expressions it's painfully hard to get anything that's not super generic. And even with a dedicated LORA it just can't replicate the unique way certain artists draw expressions
The human artist's knowledge is an amalgamation of their studies, preferences, insights. Their skill grows and their style and output changes with the passing of time and accumulation of experiences, even outside their artistic studies. Their art inevitably incorporates some very personal part of them. When asked to describe "home", you can't be sure of what you'll get. Only the artist knows what "home" means to them.
The AI training data set is a composition of whatever artwork from wherever, converted into vector data. There's no thought, cognition, comprehension involved, only raw calculations. There's no artistic evolution or moment-to-moment insights to the model's workflow. It is blind to the world beyond what raw data has been supplied to it. When asked to describe "home", it draws you a cute, if nondescript house with the word "home" written above it. It isn't capable of comprehending the concept and extrapolating on it to create anything more evocative.
And they want pass a law that is going to make AI tools uneligible to any sort of copyright and law disputes for 10 years?
I fucking hate artists and I can't wait to make them suffer. Problem, officer?
You can care about what you do without seeking outside approval for it. That's exactly what the vast majority of people using AI art generators do. They generate art they believe looks nice and use it for their own projects, without any notion that they should try and impress someone so that they can "make a name for themselves".
Sure, there are also a shit ton of grifters who are trying to make money (and sadly succeeding) from AI art, but they are an overly visible minority due to, again, most people not sharing their AI generated art in the first place.
you're a fascist and we're democratizing art for the masses
cope and seethe
If I can support myself then I can do whatever I want cope, have fun spending a bunch of time cooking lol
Dont care go back to art school faggot
I got banned once for posting my twitter in an Anon Babble socials thread because I have so many followers and triggered the posters. It was funny.
Is this the pizza or the pineapple pizza?
Fundamentally correct.
You sound like a communist tranny when you use words like that.
fueling artist's melancholy
Aren't you aware artists are masochists anon? You are basically forging the best and last artists of all time.
Why are you going there in the first place? Stop being a retard
I know it's incredibly difficult to see outside of that curve, which for me required kindness to myself. Again, I use the analogy of a toddler. You don't say "YOU FUCKING RETARD!!! YOU'VE BEEN ALIVE FOR 2 YEARS AND YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK!?!?! THIS IS LITERALLY SO EASY!!!" For many people including me, art education ended at 11 years old. Unless you were taking art classes in middle/high school you likely subsisted your creative side on doodling because you didn't know any better. You MUST be kind to yourself. It is the ultimate prerequisite.
tl;dr give yourself a fuckin break
you can copyright AI art
having a meltie because of a trollface
no wonder India is such a shithole if pajeets are so fragile
all artists are fascists
you deserve to be destroyed by AI ;)
The thing is AI trained on AI art implodes very quickly. This is a well documented phenomenon. If you want datasets to expand you need artists
You actually can't, AI art is public domain and not protected under copyright.
it's obviously bait but you can just crop real art you know
no download link
code (coming soon)
This is just a tech demo of a program which does not exist and technically might be a scam for all we know. I'm sure technology like this will exist soon enough enough but this is kinda misleading.
I'd rather have on demand AI generated furry porn thanks
I thought it would be funny and it was.
It isn't capable of comprehending the concept and extrapolating on it to create anything more evocative.
But the person prompting the AI is. The AI creates what it is told to create. If you simply ask it to "Paint me a picture of home", of course you get something simple.
Like a brush does not paint shit without a hand to guide it, AI can't really do anything but the most basic shit imaginable if it doesn't receive elaborate instruction.
I mean copyright disputes
meaning that AI companies will be able to do anything they want without any sort of law consequence for 10 years
I appreciate the attempt but I've come to realize it's just not for me Anon