Why does neo-Anon Babble hate fighting games?

Based grubba
Galleon sex

Why is it are job

Fucking ESL bots I swear

I just suck at them
I tried but I never improve
guess I don't have "the gene" people talk about

>>>>>>>>>neo-Anon Babble

Nigga we've hated fighting games since 2009 at least

instruments aren't video games and there's isn't a guy that smacks the tuba or the guitar from your hand when you make one bad note. if you make one wrong note you just simply start over, you're not forced to wait for 10 mins with the constant messaging of "you are sux, faggot" whenever you mess up. Fighting games are mostly a humiliation ritual.

the gene

The not-learning disability trait?

we

That's right. You and me, hating SF4.

there's isn't a guy that smacks the tuba or the guitar from your hand when you make one bad note

you have never had a music teacher i see

malding fgc troon lol your shitty genre is dying and smash bros rapes its corpse keep crying about muh TRVE fighting games

Nobody defended me and just let it happen

Please tell me that you're a girl

Why would you want ESL's in your fighting game community? Be happy we don't want to be in it if that's your problem.

to be fair, this has been a horrible generation for fighters. they fell all over themselves trying to be more accessible without addressing many of the actual, real reasons players drop these games, so half the "new audience" they wanted to reach just ended up bouncing of 'em anyways and came away with a poor opinion of the genre.

without addressing many of the actual, real reasons players drop these games

you mean the "i wanna win just by touching the controller without putting any effort into it" actual reason?

you're only able to learn instruments by going to middle/high school band class where the teacher want's to secretly kill himself all the time.

20 replies already making excuses to not play them

This guy get it whats the point of dumbing down fightans when newfags still get filtered anyway..?

dumbed down fighters still sell better than the le deep skill expression ones. that's why.

you just keep confirming you have never had a music teacher anon. When you actually want to get good and get a private teacher they grind you to the ground until you can do the shit they ask you to do.
That one movie about the drummer guy being abused is not just a meme

they're dumbing them down but not fixing the issue of the genre being autistic knowledge checks and memorization
for japs it might be okay because they somehow find enjoyment competing in the shittiest kusoges known to man, but not for the rest of the world. dead genre unless someone solves this problem

the genre being autistic knowledge checks and memorization

wow i didn't know fighting games were like chess

you're not allowed to learn an instrument without a teacher

plus you doubling down just makes fighting games and instruments look 3 times gayer

Headcanon, SF6, Strive and Rising have all retained their playerbase. Tekken is the only one that's falling off for appealing to newcomers.

it is, it's a reactive chess and that's the best part. I still fucking hate the ones were the combos last 2 minutes.

keeps moving the goalpost

the funniest part is that you're the one that brought up other people in the first place.
All i said was that you need to invest time in effort into literally anything and everything is life

Wish the game wasn't dead so I could love Galleon, I guess I'm stuck to masturbating it to THAT picture instead.

the smell

trannies

why do fgc faggots keep screeching about "muh goal posts" when they're just saying "NUH UH NUH UH" as arguments

it isn't dead though, i started playing a new character yesterday and in A rank it takes like 5-6min to find a fight then like 3-4min when i got to S rank.

who are you talking to?
Again, all i said was that putting in effort applies to literally everything but then you started sperging out about muh teachers.

playing instruments to sports

Yeah but doing these will get girls to fuck you and also the latter even makes you fit

SF6, Strive and Rising

And yet, you still refuse to play fighting games..

then go do that instead of crying about fighting games

But I'm not crying about fighting games. I' not that anon. Well, I am, but only modern ones. Fuck them. I'm just saying it's a bad comparison.

nigger you're saying that the only way to learn anything in life is through someone that has a spastic meltdown over any slight error. by your logic you're not allowed to make mistakes at all, when fighting games are meant to just be a fun time killing hobby. If you're learning guitar from a book or a youtuber tutorial you're not having a dei nigger screaming in your ear about perfection,

you're saying that the only way to learn anything in life is through someone that has a spastic meltdown

quote the the exact sentence where i said that
i'll wait

You simply don't have the desire to learn or improve so the genre just simply isn't for you.
Stop crying about it and move on. Not everything is for everyone and there's nothing wrong with that.
You're not the intended audience.

gungi ginga

no quote

no argument

thanks for playing

Who's "malding" you retarded zoomer faggot. I don't play fighting games with auto combos, they're not fighting games if the game is playing itself. I understand how you autistic little post 2000s babies demand instant gratification and need your hand held yellow paint style but I prefer to actually play the game. You can reply when you're older than 13 and past your little edgelord phase.

It's a gatekeeping genre.
I thought you guys were all in for gatekeeping?

quote the the exact sentence where i said that

i'll wait

When you actually want to get good and get a private teacher they grind you to the ground until you can do the shit they ask you to do.

That one movie about the drummer guy being abused is not just a meme
also nice samefagging nigger

fighting games were like chess

fighting games are not like chess at all
You can become a good chess player without playing and just by studying chess books
you cannot do that in fighting games

Anon Babble is super fucking casual.
It's why they always run when a gauntlet is thrown to actually play.

Please tell me you're a girl. Men don't allow blacks to threaten others in public without intervening.

that sentence does not even imply that "the only way to learn anything in life is through someone that has a spastic meltdown over any slight error"
you are a literal retard, please learn to read before even trying to discuss anything

pee pee poo poo, keep playing your shitty discord game with baselement dwelling combo-learning pedotrannies

If you don't have any decent locals it's not worth investing into. That or being a tranny faggot Twitter poster.

have all retained their playerbase

The collection of literally ~50000 retards total worldwide that play the genre past the first 1 week of sales?

this critique really fell apart when MOBAs became insanely popular despite their complexity and the time investment required to perform well. the biggest issue with fighting games is that the devs do not fucking listen, they're greedy, updates are infrequent, and the biggest games only get sequels like once per decade. the ONLY positive thing to come from this generation is that many games are getting enhanced training mode features that help new players learn to play. it would be a HUGE help if we normalized at least 2 player vs 2 player tag modes, so players who dislike 1v1s can still engage with the genre. look at the best selling fighter of all time – Super Smash bros. that is a fundamentally 3+ player game unless you're grinding their 1v1 playlist like a looney toon.

devs have gotta stop playing follow the leader behind Capcom. they've done an immense amount of damage to the genre just by convincing other devs that their fans will put up with the same shit Capcom's cult does. the fact almost every game is launching with 22 characters or less now, and that they're intentionally withholding huge names to sell later as DLC, feels like complete and utter shit. i haven't bought anything before Season 2 in like, a decade, except DBFighterZ and Granblue Rising, cause they both launched with more than 24 characters. and not for nothing – i bounced off FighterZ until Season 3 because they were also withholding big name characters to move DLC.

Maximilian made my fucking head hurt talking about a 4v4 tag game. they can't launch a game with more than 22 characters anymore, and he expects me to like FOUR of the launch roster characters enough to wanna lab 'em all? get the fuck outta here. i didn't even wanna play 4 characters in DBFighterZ till they the first Season Pass added Blue Vegetto and Z Broly. lol

this looks suspiciously like gacha slop

maybe because it's a fighting game based on a gacha game

You know how arguments work on Anon Babble, stop acting like such a pretentious faggot. That guy is mentally retarded but you're acting like a total gay.

k nigger, the movie you mention is about that exact scenario. But keep lying because you shitty genre is dying and less and less niggers are joining it. you can keep seething in the thread. I'll be doing something i actually enjoy instead of arguing with disingenuous faggots.

i feel like i got to the party too late. i really hate armor moves and special bars and that’s in all these games today

the time investment required to perform well

And yet the player distribution in terms of ranked mirror that of fighting games. An incredibly small amount of players for games like League are in the top ranks while overwhelming majority make up Bronze, Silver, and Iron ranks. This is the same for fighting games where the bronze, silver, and gold leagues outnumber the higher ranks by a large margin.

The devs do not listen

updates are infrequent

I thought you people HATED it when Capcom and Arcsys kept releasing new versions every new years and necessitated a paid update.

They don't have enough skill and the genre isn't popular enough.
Anon Babble is made up of men with no personality (normies), so they need large swaths of people to blend in and spout their opinions. Hence why fighting games were popular in the 90s.
Fighting games are too individualistic. Once the normies left, that became apparent. If you have no will to thrive by yourself, you can't really enjoy fighting games.

If you have no will to thrive by yourself

yeah look at pathetic alcoholic daigo umehara

Street Fighter 6 is the most astroturfed and artificially hyped game i've ever seen. if a plague killed all the elder millennials and militant """FGC""" shills who buy every Capcom product, Street Fighter would have 1500 concurrent players.

Ranked

containment playlist, don't care

paid update

another part of the problem

The only tranny here is the one spamming a board for games he doesn't like while having an autistic zoomer melty. > is perfect for you head over before Trump bans it precious HRT

Not only is Smash NOT a fight game, the only reason its popular in the slightest is due to character bias. Quite literally every single other game in its genre never managed to reach even half a fucking percent of the playerbase that Smash has because all anybody cares about is that it has their childhood characters in it.
That is it.
That is literally it.
There is no other fucking reason.

threaten

containment playlist

Then how are you EVER going to substantiate the claims of people learning mobas "better" than they're learning fighting games? What's your metric?

People on Anon Babble are more likely to be neurodivergent. People with ADHD are extremely sensitive to rejection. Fighting games are constant rejection.

But the most frequent insult to fighting game players are being called autistic

Fighting games are constant rejection.

And new players will lose over and over
At some point losing stops being fun

Smash niggas when they have to disable half the game to make it playable. I was gonna question why they feel the need to mention it's a "real fighting game" but then remembered 90% of its comp scene nowadays are trannies. It says a lot when the developer keeps saying he wanted to make it a casual experience with every single entry.

Galleon

Smash is popular cause characters

that still feeds back into my point about being stingy with your base roster. Smash Ultimate launched with like 70 playable characters and has sold 36 million copies. man, imagine living in a world where everyone was following THEIR lead instead of Capcom's. whew.

Smash isn't a fighting game

it's not 2013 anymore, lil bro. if you Google best selling fighting game of all time, you're gonna see a picture of Mario. sorry. lol

You sure about that? I'm ADHD and basically all I play is fighting games

Such a tired stigma ngl niggers who say this have not played fighting games. Discords can find other new players easily. Modern games have SBMM this is not an excuse anymore. Worst case get a friend and play with them while you learn

have not played fighting games

I tried, it was the 1st ftg I ever played more than as a party game
Couldn't get out of C

we're not workshopping a thesis paper, nigga. i didn't suggest anyone was learning anything "better". i said more people are playing MOBAs despite their being comperably complex and time consuming, so "complexity and time investment" aren't an excuse for fighting games to have poverty player metrics anymore.

Smash Ultimate launched with like 70 playable characters

that's not a good thing though because it gives players decision fatigue on who to play and they just end up not playing at all.
It only really works in smash because they're well known characters from other franchises and even mvc, specifically mvc2, suffers from decision fatigue with how many options there are for shit no casual player even know how to use like assists and modes or whatever they're called.

My problem is I'm already a self loathing bitch thinking about suicide on the daily and I cannot detatch my self worth from my in game performance. The moment I lose to something I "feel" I should have won against it destroys me internally.
I still feel the urge to play every now and then, my few hundred hours of SF4 were the best gaming experience I ever had and I still have replays of it saved, but I simply cannot go back due to my own mental problems.

Only because you're fighting people who are willing to put in that time. Go to any other game known for a competitive scene and you'll find plenty of sweats there as well.

they're gonna say it doesn't count because it's not their favorite fighting game

It'd be nice if fighting games had drills and 'puzzles'.
I know you can set it up yourself in training mode but that requires knowledge to set up.

just mindlessly playing won't make you inprove though. I can't install call of duty and just shoot the wall for 50h and then say i tried to get good but couldn't

I mean at least you tried more than most people posting can say. I don't care for auto combo games I climbed for awhile on GBFVS and TL but neither of them felt fun and AC usually just getting in the way. Did you play Rising as a f2p or did you buy it, who did you main? What was their tier at the time? Did you practice in training at least to learn the basic strings beyond auto combos/ combo training. That game much like all other moderm arc syslop requires you to do manual combos to maximize the damage same with manual inputs for the specials vs just hitting the buttons

Silence nigger gamers are speaking.

all that fallen pubic hair

looks painful

fighting games have a lot of guesswork so you cannot do drills or puzzles
they are similar to rts games and arena shooters
if you want to improve you have to lose a lot

I do like them somewhat but they either have a long combo problem or a tranny problem.

Who said I mindlessly played?
I sat in training going through the combo list up to what I could do
I was in the Anon Babble asking for tips
I watched videos on characters
I tried to not use auto combos because I actually wanted to learn how to play ftgs
I bought it on release and played Vira and later Kat. I wanted to play Ferry but she was too difficult to learn

Smash Ultimate launched with like 70 playable characters and has sold 36 million copies.

70 characters from any fighting games are not even 5% of the marketing power smash has with all the IP's it uses. As far as designing a game goes, having that amount on a launch roster in an actual fighting game means the labbing will be abysmal. You would be labbing for a month and still don't know how to deal with half the cast.

fighting game players are the only niggas who will write a paragraph trying to explain why receiving less playable characters is actually good and based, in an era where they're also trying to increase the standard retail price of video games. toxic positivity has this genre locked into a death spiral. only fighting game players, Blizzard fans, and Nintendo fans are like this.

just mindlessly playing won't make you inprove though

And there is the single biggest problem. Its also the single biggest problem with multiplayer RTS. With something like ASSFAGGOTS or CoD you can and will just naturally get better by playing, if its a shooter then your aim will get better, if its ASSFAGGOTS then its gaining knowledge.
This is ultimately why fighting games will never be popular and there is no solving this, its just a fact of the genre that we have to accept.
You quite literally cannot make a fighting game where merely mindlessly playing it will make you improve just as you cannot do the same with a multipler RTS game.

I sat in training going through the combo list up to what I could do

why would anyone do that. You need to learn how to actually land hits before trying combos and for that you need to learn the fundamentals like spacing and shit.

see

Surprisingly enough GG XRD (both sign and rev) were pretty good at drilling you the core mechanics and fundamentals used in GG.
For example, the game would put a bot to block string then go high or low and you had to apply fuzzy blocking accordingly 5 times.
Or, learn how to safe jump because sol is going to wakeup DP 5 times.

They aren't games, they're a profession. I played fighting games to have fun, not to sweat and get angry like some loser.

You can't deny that even MOBA players are learning a huge hurdle of basic knowledge where they basically have to memorize the four to five abilities every champion has and multiply that by the amount of players active in a single game at once.

I did it with every character because I figured if there was a character I can pull off the combos with, I could use to play against people. When I actually played online, I wasn't trying to pull off combos, I was trying to play safe and poke in to what I could do.

You clearly haven't spent enough time in practice mode to understand how much time it drains out of your fighting game routine.

this nigga talking about playing Street Fighter like he's going to the gym to train MMA. lmao

wah wah i have to play to get good

why are you in this thread again?

Doing research is good, don't sell yourself short on your character choices as gay as it sounds it's an intimate part of the game and you should always pick on Aesthetic then play style bonus points if they line up. There isn't too many difficult inputs for VS so it's probably just a new player thing. Think of it the same as putting 50 hours into any competitive genre. 50 hours in counterstrike won't make you an aimgod same with mobas. If you want to learn fighting games still maybe vs just isn't for you. If you like anime fighters then there's more choices I know in Anon Babble they do soku and mbaacc at least, and there's a wide variety of game types and options. If you want the more sbmm experience then SF6 is actually pretty good right now Tekken 8 if they fix it next season maybe.

Most games are actually won in neutral it's the most important thing to learn even over combo strings. If you can read your opponents moves and block parry or counter hit you win every time. There's definitely a lot of resources out there but if it's not your cup of tea I'd definitely understand

Still not giving you $69.99-89.99 (before Season Pass) for less than 24 characters, sorry.

woops meant for

no it was meant for your whiny ass.
Get good or fuck off

Talking in this thread, I may reinstall a few ftgs. I have GBFVR, GGS, and SFVI. And I liked playing them. I just kept losing a stopped having fun. I guess it didn't help I also was trying to learn on an arcade stick as well.

People would rather the instant gratification of winning with their friends carrying than actually improving before winning it's simple as. That's why team games are so popular

win game

I did good so i won

lose game

My team was bad so I lost
Meanwhile I'm fighting games it's

win or lose the better player won

why do fighting fags conflate getting better with making an entire second career. You can get better at a game without needing it to be a second career. If souls-likes took as long to get gud at as fighting games they'd be dead too

You can get better at a game without needing it to be a second career

yes you can get good at fighting games like that yet you keep crying about having to actually play to get good

Nigga with the lowest reading comprehension and fighting game hours in the thread award goes to you.

chess is popular so that excuse is not valid

Arcade stick is a MEME don't let anyone tell up otherwise. I play on KB for most fighting games and have since the late 2000s. Modern games are fine on controller or KB but use whatever is comfortable for you. Sticks can offer an advantage in certain ways but generally regarded as overrated now and most players would tell you to save your money. Honestly don't sweat over losing maybe join some discords or post around in vm or vg looking for some casual matches if you want

mmm... thick...

too bad to play with the vets

too good to play with the newbies

Learning this genre is a curse. I'll never be able to casually enjoy these games with friends ever again.

If every popular streamer gravitated towards a fighting game like they did chess it would be popular too

Oh wait that did happen last year and tekken 8 skyrocketed in players before ruining the game this year. Crazy how that works

yes you can get good at fighting games like that yet you keep crying about having to actually play to get good

after 5k hours in training

Stick is the worst controller option lol. It's just for legacy and fun. Leverless and all button controllers are so ahead in terms of options and ease of use there's no reason to play on stick unless you enjoy it. I don't thinks there's a single game that you are not disadvantaged by using one.

chess has over 200000 daily players and that has nothing to do with popular streamers

no it's just like 20h against real opponents to get to average player level if you have +50 IQ that is

More like 5 or 10 unless you have a learning disability

I don't like the modern options for fighters. I should probably just play something older but I've been too lazy.

well fuck. My friend who actually does play ftg told me to get a stick. I do have a DS4 and saturn-style 8bit do controller. Are leverless worth trying? I can try and get one if so

sex is gross

have you never heard of a lab monster before

Are you retarded or something? It absolutely does. During Pandemic between Queens Gambit and Twitch streams you realize chess.com almost doubled its player count right? You're quoting 200m players but over 100m of them came AFTER pandemic and it's because of popular chess media across streaming platforms.

Sticks are mostly nostalgia meme yea but the customization options may suit you in some way. I agree that leaverless is insanely good that's why shit like the smashox caught heat. It's also why KB is good the button inputs in 8way directions is so smooth in 2d fighters and you rarely need an angle you can't achive. You should pick the controller you're most suited to just pick something and stick to it. I have massive hands so I don't like controllers lmao but lots of pros use DS4 in tournys along with various types of boxes or sticks

imagine the toys in her true form

Play Granblue Versus Rising

trannies

really? nta but I thought the fgc was full of "dudebros"
I don't know much about fighting games though

youtube.com/watch?v=_nhSv0Pv_3o
fighting games are a dying niche, listen to the pros

you still have to lose a lot of games to be able to do that

naw, if you watch tournament streams there are a lot of "zesty" players

over a decade ago, yeah. e-sports unironically drove out the thuggery

Smash and Guilty Gear mostly, the 'classic' fighting games you're probably thinking of are still fairly cis straight male dominated.

fighting games are meant to just be a fun time killing hobby

I mean, they are when you play against the CPU or against casuals. (Which only works for the big games) Naturally, when you fight good players you're gonna have to put in the effort. These aren't games which you can play on auto-pilot, after all. (Unlike most FPS games)

The genre was at its most popular in the 90s because it was all casuals playing in the arcade. So it was all fun. The advent of the FGC and online play nuked it because even back then most players were just not willing to put up with that shit.

if i had the money. is online vendoring art still viable?

NTA but dudebros usually surround some bigger games like SF, Tekken, Marvel, and MK. Even then, most dudebros stick to EA sports games and CoD/Battlefield.
Even then, it's mostly just whites, hispanics, asians, and black guys of the nerd variety in the anime side of fighters.

pros

has never won a single tournament

So this is /fgg/'s resident e-celeb huh

MOBAs aren't 1v1. You can blame your team and go next without feeling bad. If you lose in fighting that's all on you.

MOBAs are super simple to play compared to fighting games, though. The problem isn't difficulty or win-loss ratios, it's complexity. Fighting games are never gonna be big for the same reason strategy games never will.

/fgg/ and /afgg/ would fellate Clayton if they could. They've been lapping up his piss for years.

levy and nakamura are chess streamers
there are many fighting games streamers, and none of them managed to popularize the genre during the pandemic

aren't they all full of wokisms. trannys fags diversity

That's mostly smash who FGC niggas don't associate with, and troons who are obsessed with Bridget after they keep trying to retcon his lore to being trans based off 1 intetview and not 20y of lore

Ok so we agree chess was popularized during the pandemic due to streamers. Glad we found common ground and you stopped being a retarded nigger. As for fgc streamers most of them hop from game to game so they'll never popularize any 1 specific one. People like Max never stick to one game

"You want to play the game without putting work into it abloo bloo my shitty genre is DYING because of you!" - jobless autistic niggerfaggots

Chess is easier to learn than fighting games.

I only play Mortal Kombat and the latest one was ass

i already am but im so fucking ass at this game

knowing how the pieces move does not equal knowing how to play chess.

I've never seen such a collection of worse people

never been to a yugioh tournament. i envy you.

Why is her torso 5 ft long? How did she press her entire belly onto the bed when her tits are resting on the windowsill like she's reared up? Did her neck extend like a slinky to kiss that window? Why are her limbs splayed out like a tree frog? What's the stain on the pillow supposed to be? Why did they lose a wig's worth of pubes? Why bring the beads when you're not gonna fuckin use them?

How did she press her entire belly onto the bed when her tits are resting on the windowsill like she's reared up?

this is gonna sound ridiculous but please hear me out: tits aren't rigid. Stupid i know but it's the truth

She's canonically a dragon the size of Nevada she can bend her form at will

And knowing what buttons do what does not equal knowing how to play an FG. You'll just mash and get comboed to death. Like Chess, you need to learn what to do with your tools to play properly. But learning Chess tactics is a way easier and more relaxed affair than learning FG skills. Chess is turn-based, after all. FGs are fast paced and some games have the moves be so fast you can't even rely on your reflexes unless you're a freak, you have to guess what the bastard is gonna do. You can learn a chess tactic and put it into use immediately in your next match, in an FG you train with a character for hours, start a match and then immediately devolve into mashing again and forget everything you practiced because it's too intense for you to stay level-headed. It's hellish for anyone who's not an autist.

Because I really dislike

You can ONLY get hard knockdown from a metered ender

Being over-reliant on universal mechanic attacks to extend combos

Baking in autocombos into fundamental gameplay like GBVS and MBTL

Having flashy effects for something as basic as a fucking special cancel

nakamura is not that popular he has less than 10000 viewers
It was thanks to the Queens Gambit series that chess became more popular

But learning Chess tactics is a way easier and more relaxed affair than learning FG skills

this is not true at all

fast paced

There are bullet and blitz modes

What's this image saying?

this is not true at all

If it wasn't, then Chess would not be as popular as it is, lol.

Arcana Heart has a lot of connections, legitimate or otherwise.

I don't know why everyone argues so much about why fighting games are niche, do you all not remember being new? Playing fighting games when you don't know what you're doing is miserable, much more than other games. Not everyone is willing to power through that to get to the point where you can start having fun.

You can learn a chess tactic and put it into use immediately in your next match

If this were true, then every chess player would be at least a candidate master

I dont hate fighting games but i have poor reaction times and it feels like the effort required to get good at these games isnt worth it when its not even a remotely transferrable skill. Its just memorizing arbitrary combos that dont exist anywhere else. At least with fps games that are focused on reaction times and aim you can argue getting good at those is actually worth it, or with RTS and grand strategy games there are also transferable skills. But other than reaction times, being good at fighting games seems almost as useless as being a speedrunner.

is that karnov

most of the players leave their pieces hanging
the average rating is 1200
you dont know anything about chess

Playing fighting games when you don't know what you're doing is miserable

There is a group of people around here who think the exact opposite. They ONLY have fun when both parties are mashing and don't have a single clue on how to perform anything. These people want everyone to turn their brains off and not pick information up because they themselves can't. They fucking hate it when people learn and starting doing """"""""""""""cheap"""""""""""""" shit like blocking and throwing.

No, it's Heart from Hokuto no Ken

I tried getting into them, put more effort than any other game (incl. dota) and they're still miserable. Dogshit genre. Watching a long ass cutscene of you getting your ass kicked with a long cinematic super at the end how fun

At least with fps games that are focused on reaction times and aim you can argue getting good at those is actually worth it

I don't think you need any excuse at all to not want to play something other than simply not wanting to play it, so if you don't like learning combos that's as good a reason as any, but in what way is getting good at a shooter more fundamentally worth it than getting good at a fighting game? There are plenty of transferable skills between fighting games so if your metric for how worth your time it is is how much it'll aid you in other games then I think both genres are comparable in that regard.

But if she was pressed downward they would be squished into the corner with her head on the towel

Yes, fighting games are fun when both players are at a similar skill level

You can become a good chess player without playing

i think at a certain level you can unironically just do this in fighting games

Just don't get mad at me for putting together a combo before you.

ive tried playing fighting games against other people enough times to know how sweaty most of the players are. unlike most genres, there arent a lot of "casual" fighting game fans.

I will when she comes out (for an hour tops)

why do fighting games have this unique level of higher expectations than literally any other hobby in the world. why do people complain you have to play the games to get good at them like thats not how it works for literally everything else you want to get be good at? you make your own freetime and you choose how you want to spend that freetime. some people learn an instruments or draw or some people get good at shit like mobs or fighting games, it's not that complicated.

I agree, but what does that have to do with how worthwhile it is to put time into being skilled at them compared to being skilled at a shooter? You say in your post that getting good at other genres is arguably worth it, but I don't know in what way they would be any more or less worth it than getting good at a fighting game.

mobas*

there arent a lot of "casual" fighting game fans.

I honestly can't tell if I should consider bronze-tier players (the majority of fighting game players) as casual or not.

Play SF6. It has the population to sustain casuals.

fighting games are mostly a pvp genre

most of the people playing them are hardcore as fuck

in order to get even remotely on their level you have to dedicate a shit ton of time and effort into it

it doesnt seem worth it at all when the skill involved is mostly arbitrary muscle memory

seems pretty easy to understand.

yeah

when the skill involved is mostly arbitrary muscle memory

literally any of this "hardcore" players would steamroll without doing anything that requires muscle memory

That's easy to understand, but it's also a completely separate issue. If you said fighting games aren't worth getting into because the barrier to entry is too high/the average player in them is too good I'd understand, but I don't see how the skill itself of being good at them has any other merit than the skill of being good at any game, unless you consider the barrier to entry in learning a skill to be indicative of the value of that skill.

okay gbvs just went on sale but only the deluxe idk if it's worth

Yeah, seems way more important if you want to git gud at shooters desu.

most of the people playing them are hardcore as fuck

They're not.
Statistics prove that a majority of the people playing them are bottom of the rung.

because if im going to dedicate an insane amount of time into something i would like to get something out of it other than bragging rights.

when the skill involved is mostly arbitrary muscle memory

you do realize you can apply this to any instrument on the planet right would you extend your logic to that too?

but muh reading sheets

it literally takes like 10 minutes to read sheet music

matchmaking is far more damaging to your will to play than local play. Literally the only way a casual can get into fighting games is if they have a few other friends that like them

bro just spend $40 (+tip)

You just want another fool in your pyramid scheme. Fuck off.

yeah but no one on Anon Babble is willing to make friends so

you can unironically just do this in fighting games

not really especially with new characters and balance patches

if you mean rising then yeah, it's a fun little game thats really easy

Then you should avoid videogames.

genre that requires friends

in an era where loneliness is on the rise

No wonder this shit is dying

They missed the true fighting game experience (Arcades) and to them social games are loot and shoot hyper-forgiving team battle royals.

It's the same as asking why nu-Anon Babble doesn't like drive in theaters, roller rinks, and blockbuster video.

Dying for 10 years and will continue "dying" for longer.

you do realize you can apply this to any instrument

you know what you get out of learning an instrument? the ability to make music and play it to others. if you think thats even remotely in the same ballpark as being good at a fighting game you are legitimately delusional. creating and playing music is 10000x better.

not really especially with new characters and balance patches

new characters are better for the person using them if they lab anon, the opponent that went into matchmaking and got matched against a new character is at a disadvantage.

fighting fags are proud that the life support their favorite genre is on is getting weaker and weaker

i typically avoid most pvp games yes.

you know what you get out of learning an instrument? the ability to make music

no, you don't get the ability to make music that is an entirely different skill set that you have to go into outside of being able to play an instrument. are you retarded, someone that is able to read and play sheet music is not the same as someone being able to compose their own music.

How are you getting anything more than that from getting good at any other genre? What do you get from being competent at a shooter that you don't get from being competent at a fighting game? All I'd say you get from either are the skills to be able to engage with the game enough to engage with and enjoy it, which I'd say is the most valuable thing, as well as being able to transfer skills and I suppose also bragging rights as you say, but that's something you get from either. What is the other something you think you get from being skilled at a shooter that you don't get from being good at fighting games?

lmao why are you picturing her doing 4 positions at the same time

starts off with missionary

then she moves to the middle of bed for doggy

then upside down, under the bed, whatever

holy shit anon

You've been saying that for 10 years now, I'm sure it'll happen soon, mr. prophet.

he thinks you need to be able to read sheet music or understand music theory to make your own music

ask me how i know you have never played an instrument before in your life. just ask

i dont have to spend nearly as much time or effort getting "good" at any other genre in order to enjoy it, unlike fighting games. are you people legitimately retarded? its not fun to play a pvp game where your opponent is almost always way better than you.

If a doctor said you had 2 months to live but you're still alive by a thread by 2 months and 2 days in instead of getting treatment do you act smug about being alive for 2 extra days?

I don't think you have any metric about fighting games dying to be even be accurately compared to a doctor's diagnosis.

>he thinks you need to be able to read sheet music or understand music theory to make your own music

nigga are you replying to the right person, thats the fucking point you don't need to learn how to play an instrument to make music and learning an instrument doesn't mean you can make music. it's an entirely different skill set that you have to learn or teach yourself. the first thing any music teacher asks you is if you want to make music or if you just want to be able to play. because they are 2 entirely different fucking skills.

waste of time

predatory practices

full of hoodrats

i see your reading comprehension is even lower than your IQ. range banning india cant came soon enough

?
Fighting games are like crack for people with ADHD because you get immediate feedback from your actions.

i accept your concession retard

You already said that, are you retarded? I'm not trying to convince you to play them or chastising you for not having a good enough reason, your reason for not wanting to play them is fine, I just want to know what 'At least with fps games that are focused on reaction times and aim you can argue getting good at those is actually worth it' is supposed to mean. I assume it's not supposed to mean 'I think the value of a skill is inversely represented by the barrier to entry to starting to learn that skill' because that sounds ridiculous, but it's all you keep saying.

And again, it's a fine reason to not want to play them, but I don't see what the supposed arguable point is that learning to get good at those other games is worth it but learning to get good at a fighting game isn't. You even mention RTS, which I'd say is even harder to seriously get into compared to fighting games at this point.

i accept your concession posting unironically

you will never belong here newfag

Too basic

who are you?
kazunoko inoue?

Tekken and SF are still mostly like that but the more niche games have always attracted more autists. The real dudebro (white) comp game though is CS. Genuinely the most normal people I've ever seen play a competitive game. I don't know a single dude actively playing it that isn't physically active and regularly plays sports either.

Then just say so instead of making a grandstand about how you'd rather put your time in more productive endeavours which rings hollow since you're on Anon Babble shitposting.

waiting for match in lobby

brand new player comes up to me since i'm low rank like them

they lose because they don't block

they don't rematch and their avatar disappears

I should start letting them win...

And that's a good thing!

there are much better pvp games than fighting games though. the point is that fighting games are bottom of the barrel that require way more out of you than you will ever get out of them.

hehe you said i'd be dead 2 months from now if i don't get my treatment... right now it's 2 month and 2 da-ACK!!

never once in my post have i ever said

you need to be able to read sheet music and learn music theory to make music

in fact in my post here i say the exact opposite

someone that is able to read and play sheet music is not the same as someone being able to compose their own music

no once did i mention music theory as a requirement, not once did i say you need to be able to read sheet music, all i said is that making music another skill you need to learn and simply learning an instrument will never do that for you on it's own.

only if you have the right answer for the situation, which you gotta learn beforehand. be it labbing or through mileage, neither one is "immediate"

Nothing else to substantiate your claims?
I'm sure your fantastic ideas about fighting games will be the shot in the arm the genre needs to truly be alive. Everyone is waiting for your guidance.

they are for non-whites

I'm always surprised that Yugioh has never turned out some kind of sex offender or any egregious bullying situation. The top players are just normal dudes

I'm white.

I was playing +R the other day and got my ass handed to me with someone with tens of thousands of games and I was pissed so I went against someone with less than a thousand games and I beat them as bad as I got beat and then they left the lobby and I felt bad.

The cycle of violence has to end, but I'm not strong enough to do break the chain.

Fighting games are too hard

It is (arguably) the only genre where you can't learn and progress to a competent level just by playing normally. You HAVE to look up frame data and lab combos to get to a level where you are *ACTUALLY* playing the game

Shooters, MOBA, RTS, Character Action, etc dont have this problem

just end your combos early and back off and let them move around/press buttons a bit so they feel like they are doing something. letting them win doesn't do anything

I don't have the gene. Any whites you see playing has either asian or black ancestry.

There is 0 good entry points for them, whenever a new game pops up all the players new to fighting games get wrecked by people who have played them for decades and leave the game and all of them have shit single player modes that don't teach you anything important about playing against real people. Feels like you had to be play with other kids growing up to be able to get into them.

if you goto any tournament and ask if people know frame data a lot of them will just tell you they wing it lmao

Yeah you have to understand how much is 6 + 5. It's really hard game. :(

Cuz most these days are style over substance, and don't have staying power like mvc2 because there's just no heart in them anymore, these days it's just latest [IP], but with several new fighters and locations, and 1 added/ changed mode. Rinse and repeat.

GALLEON TITTIES ON MY 'ICK

whenever I realize I'm playing against someone inexperienced I just start poking them to death
still a trial by fire for the laymen but it gets them to figure out how to hit you

That's even more rage inducing for new players, you retard.
Feeling confused while losing is even worse than just getting beat up.

it would be much easier for them if they blocked

Only good post ITT

be it labbing or through mileage, neither one is "immediate"

You say that but grinding combos is exactly what I mean about getting immediate feedback. I guarantee 90% of lab-monsters are ND.

Character Action

dumbest name ever

You HAVE to look up frame data

I can punish this with a slow move
I can punish this with a jab
I can get out or move first
I can't do shit

There you go, that's all you need to know for frame data until you get to playing skilled people

I do

Character Action

You mean the "genre" that shares a lot of DNA with fighting games? If you can play DMC you can play fighting games.

play someone inexperienced

get a round in

spend the next round stuffing all their approaches with jabs

because everyone sees what fighting games are they should have died alongside arcades its the only genre that hasnt truly evolved but you cant evolve something that was meant to be played in arcades the evolution of the genre was league of legends and dota 2 but fighting games fans dont really have a brain so those 2 games are impossible for them to play so they gotta stick to this trash genre

The answer is to spend the match practicing single hit confirms and not doing long combos except on anti-airs. New players are better at learning when their mistakes are obvious, so only hard punishing jumps and letting everything else slide is the play; plus you get good practice playing this way too.

t. expert newbie groomer

spend the match practicing single hit confirms

im stealing this, thanks for the advice anon

LMAO fighting games aren't hard if i put you in a game of dota right now your brain would explode fundamentally fighting games are very easy to play but the genre is boring as shit to play

people that make them get inspiration from fighting games. If they had actual dna from them you would need to practice for 8 hours a day to learn the very basics.

inb4 muh dmc4/dmc5 dante tutorials

even dmc fans don't like dmc4/5 nearly as much as 1 and 2, almost every case of character action games getting "more" than the previous title only shits on the overall experience.

>even dmc fans don't like dmc4/5 nearly as much as 1 and 2

nigger nobody likes dmc2 except contrarians, it's a terrible game

Who tf likes 1 and 2 more than 4 and 5

same faggots who post ds2 peak souls
apparently some people buy that shit lol

DMC2 is literally one of the most universally shat on games of all time.

The FGC is gay as hell so any game they like is guaranteed to be tranny cringe.

is that so

finally think i'm improving

opponent stops sandbagging and demolishes me

alright man

too hard and stressful for me and I dont have team mates to blame if something goes wrong, so ill stick to team based or single player games, or atleast games with RNG so I can blame luck.
Not looking to beat myself up over a game life is hard enough as it is.

I'm not suicidal enough to get into fighting games or mobas.
simple as

what rank lol you could have 4k hours and still be at archon but gj you are the minority

i meant 1 and 3
dmc3 is about using one of the different styles and 2 guns and 2 melee weapons.

nobody does that, it's possible they're just playing with their friends and they switched actual players.

Who tf likes 1 and 3 more than 4 and 5

ancient 2
I'm mostly playing unranked these days though because rank decay fucks with my 1-game-per-day schedule

nta, but 5>3≥4≥1

i'm a fraud

5k+ more hours bro
it's ten times more common then you'd like to admit
4 and 5 are normie tier dmc games. The mechanics in dmc5 is even made to be easier for normies

I play for she
galleon more like gallons of titmilk

nobody does that

If sandbagging doesn't exist, then how did it become a term in the first place?

play more skullgirls

Modern fighting games are a fucking joke.

ugly as shit realistic art style fighter 6 where all the bonus content are costumes for you gay avatar you don't play with online anyway

broken and busted and broken and ridiculous tekken 8 where they just completely fucked the game up and are going to drip feed tiny changes and pretend they can't just do one big patch to fix it, oh also more nickel and dime DLC, literally now there are characters who are DLC characters two games in a row

cheap animation and saudi conspiracy money SNK fighters where the PS3 graphics get lathered in a shitty effect to make you pretend it looks better than it is

watered down and normiefied, simple UI fugly guilty gear strive with a giant new cancerous growth known as TRANNIES invading all spaces and ruining any and all discussion

capcom classic collections only being good for literally 1v1ing when online but NO cross play, and EVERY single missing game mode from the home versions is gone so all you can play is the same arcade mode forever and ever until you die unless you have someone to play with

granblue overpriced DLC versus rising my ass pay us more money a million dollars for our baby mode fighter

MODERN CONTROLS INSTANT SPECIALS MODERN CONTROLS FAGGOT DLC OVERPRICED DLC DLC FOREVER PAY US FOR FEATURES THAT WERE IN THE LAST GAMES

dmc5 is literally slower and easier than dmc3
you'd think fighting fags would actually like dmc3 because it unironically has a deeper combo system than 5 despite having less but no.

i think they are alright but don't play them enough to get good at any of them.

I can't play them anymore, they hurt my wrist too much

why are you white

clearly hates fighting games, can barely stand to play them

continues buying them

break free

because the term doesn't come from videogames, think about the words used for one second.

Anon doesn't say he hates fighting game

assumes that he does because he doesn't 8 gorillion hours in each game he has

he just calls himself a fraud for not having 8 gorillion ours in them

do fighting fags really

having a job and a life is scrub shit

Play keyboard or any leverless

I reinstalled. I only have S1 pass though so I am missing some characters.
Trying to figure out what kind of controller to use. Rusty as hell haha

toxic positivity

trvth nvke

cause they get hounded, annoyed, and chased off by the autistic Ranked warriors who treat the game like they're learning real martial arts. this genre attracts very pretentious players. lmao

tekken unironically becomes worse with more characters

japocalypse now

when will you faggots understand that all they did was practice a little bit and now it's second nature to them, i can assure you they aren't trying as hard as you think they are. you literally cannot understand it.

Oh for sure dude I bet

casual fans play story mode and maybe a week online before moving on. They don't give a fuck about pvp unless it's with their friends which is kind of based

I feel like the people on this board who say the dumbest shit like needing 1000s of hours to play/have fun or that most of the people playing are hardcore players are people who got beat by some UNDER average guy who did like 10 minutes total, not even in a row, of practicing 2 basic combos the games give or which moves let you keep pressing buttons if they're blocked. Then just assume the other low rank fucker is some hundreds of hours god gamer for whatever reason.

buy a shitty gachaslop fgslop crossover on sale

buy a limbus pass to support the producer of the best kino on the market

help can't decide they're the same price

sounds to me you're willing to buy a goypass to support some autobattler gachaslop over a real skill based fightan kino

Buy the pass so they can make a fighting game next

That's a cute made up situation you made up there

You still haven't addressed how most fighting game players are, statistically speaking, in bronze tier. You're not losing to gods who have 1000s of hours logged, you lost to a generic shitter.

a street fighter combo is literally like 3 buttons and a special with the most lenient input buffer known to man, it takes 5 minutes to learn.

You're not losing to gods who have 1000s of hours logged

But I am. I only play in lobbies and can see my opponent's matches. I can even check their steam profile depending on the game.

A brainless fuck mashing buttons and jumping in over and over can give off the illusion of someone doing a deliberate rushdown pressure. Someone who can't tell the difference will just think the guy that never touched a controller until yesterday is actually pressuring him at a pro level.

please tell me the game, the only one i can think of where this is the case is skullgirls and even then quick match still matches with completely new players.

That's only way I could make sense of anyone unironically saying that most people playing fighting games are hardcore players when it is the complete opposite where the hardcore players make up like 10%, if even that, of any fighting games playerbase.

fighting games are easy, you just push buttons

This is the most pseud opinion possible
There's a world of difference between a Jam player flopping his dick on his fight stick and Elphelt doing her bullshit, you don't need to be particularly adept to understand when you're outclassed

yep that's a certified guilty gear +R moment

*round start suzerain*

+R, Blazblue, and GBVSR

If beginners are getting matched up against autists, that is the game's fault for having a dogshit matchmaking system. Unless you are playing a 10 year old anime fighter, in which case that's on you

How do you understand what's going on when you play this game?

Yep. And the new guy is not going to know what the difference is, especially if in his overwhelmed panic he gets perfected by the guy who is just constantly in his face pressing buttons.

COPE

I think you typed Yep and then disagreed with what I was saying

what's so hard to follow? looked to me like a pretty quick round with only a few scrambles

The thing about Guilty Gear is that both you and your opponent just shit out combo starters at random and hit confirm into combos whenever you happen to land a hit on the opponent. The opponent can't know what you're thinking if you aren't thinking in the first place.

Blizzard fans

That's not true, what happens is that 99% of fans stopped liking this company and only the Fanboys remain.

I don't get what's going on during Elphelt's wakeup or during the scrambles at all. Xrd is such a confusing mess that I'm genuinely baffled by even videos of the gameplay

why do you do this every time xrd gets posted

elphelt's wakeup

she gets hit by a low on the first one then backdashes out of slayer's overhead
the sudden pauses are roman cancels and the scrambles are there because you can move freely after an air recovery in guilty gear

that just makes Tekken sound like a bad game...

where they basically have to memorize the four to five abilities every champion has

Remember that players also need to memorize any and all other stuff the skill may do than just damage/status

these posts are telling two different stories. whose telling the truth? lol

Not experienced ftg players know frame data and shit

the FGC and speedrunning both tranformed into tranny hobbies because toxic positivity practicing niggas didn't gatekeep their hobbies.

top is correct when talking about street fighter and Tekken
bottom is correct when talking about any other fighter

The Anon Babble paradox where they hate casuals and make fun of scrubs but simultaneously hate tryhards and make fun of people who play lots.
I think they can be pretty frustrating to learn at times and I also think that most people don't enjoy the process of learning and the failures you have to endure.

MOBA shit

harder than fighting games

completely delusional lmao

real. niggas are complaining that putting too many characters in a fighter makes it hard and unfun – how about you try a game with over 100 playable characters and see how those little nuts of yours hold up. ain't no throw loops in DotA and tier whoring isn't carrying you to Diamond+.

not the hill to die on, MOBAs are harder than every fighting game
most relevant thing i can say to you is that you will never reach the highest rank BRACKET in a MOBA, but it is easy to do so in every fighting game out right now

a lot of examples of this, but Mike Ross is one that comes front of mind. That dude has 10k hours of Dota and is Archon 4 or some shit

Does anyone else experience elevated heart rate or sweating during intense matches?
I promise I'm not overweight, this is the only genre of games that actually give me a physical reaction

dota is genuinely one of the hardest games ever, but i don't think league of legends is in any way shape or form hard, there is little to no strategy and mostly revolves around which team snowballs first.

Here's to hoping every Asian on the planet burns in eternal physical torment and anguish, I hope their brains become soup and God's people are forced to look on, BECAUSE...
They have lack of faith in him.
Especially the children. As they are hellspawn turning the world's children to sex crimes. And no they can't find themselves sorry.

tl;dr? Quarter the population of Oriental dicklets.

fighting fags needs to desperately gaslight everyone that literally every other genre is somehow ten thousand times harder then fighting games while also maintaining that fighting games are also more hardcore somehow. The worst about mobas is understanding item descriptions while fighting games require you to play more often to maintain just your muscle memory on even the most minuscule things or else you fall off rapidly

which is also why people ff so early cause a lot of matches in league are genuinely a lost fucking cause, while playing rat dota is a genuine viable strategy if youre behind.

That's normal if you're new to the genre, although this still happens to me when I play at my locals.

Half of Tekken's characters are "Guy in jeans that punch and/or kick"
Adding 5 more "Guys in jeans that punch and/or kick" doesn't help much

never said it wasn't