Whatever happened to starcraft? is it dead?

whatever happened to starcraft? is it dead?

ASL is still going and GSL was brought back to life

starcraft 2 is on the verge of death (electronic Sports-wise) but i think it's doing fine casually. broodwar is booming.

Yeah I've got your Starcraft right here hehehehe

The gap between today and release of sc2 is longer than between sc2 and bw.
Just saying.

30k playing Brood War every day during Korean prime time.

Marines killed Starcraft. Everything in the game was balanced around marines.

why is zerg OP then?

SC2 is still alive and well even though its like 400 years old now. There are even political drones in chat copy and pasting their talking points nonstop.

You shut your mouth

as said GSL is being brought back to life. Saudi Princes are mad bankrolling it.
Broodwar is Korea Turf and ASL is alive and healthy. There are also the so called University leagues aka streamers in teams, getting trained by old boomer pros and then these so called Universities fight against each other.
Thats why during ASL you will see a bunch of girls in the first rows rooting for their Boomer teacher. This satisfies the ronery boomer sararymen, who watch young girls play their nostalgia game

Would you want StarCraft 3 made by modern Blizzard?

SC3 is never happening and it's probably a good thing based off the current state of Blizzard.
globally, SC2 has 130k active ranked ladder accounts based on ladder statistics websites. No clue what the custom game stats are but I get on WC3 more often than I do the SC2 arcade (am I missing out?). I stopped playing ladder in LotV because I didn't really like the changes from HotS, but HotS was already going in a negative direction.
Brood War is now the bigger esport in the same way that Melee is bigger than other Smash Bros. ASL has had some really good games this season. Not sure what the western playerbase size is.

because both sc1 and 2 are still the best RTS on the market STILL, they will never die. It'll never hit wide appeal again however, because most people don't want to get stressed out over 1v1 matches.

Western playerbase is maybe at 2-3k max. Esports is mainly carried by Korean Broodwar Boomers and new emerging University leagues.

no but I would like a game for console

even with GSL back (for now), didn't ESL and other corps pull out of SC2? i thought the only big event this year will be Saudi EWC and a bunch of smaller tournaments (GSL doesnt pay as much as it used to).

Zerg is unironically overpowered in BW

Generic rts are hopelessly outdated
New meta is shit like this

if you know how to play it, yes

im interested in it. looks neat.

basically all big ones are out, besides the Saudis and they will probably the changer if SC2 stays or leaves forever

Murdered by Blizzard and Bobby Kotick. Never recovered.

and in sc2

No, the same people that were playing it 20 years ago are still playing it now and will probably be playing it until we are dead

Unless you mean Shartcraft 2, but nobody cares about that one

Just make an alternate timeline and release more expansions for the original StarCraft on Steam, like Microsoft already did with Age of Empires 2. Also make sure to hire a writer who isn't completely retarded. Also give more mod support.

Microtransactions as the main source of income for a game was an unfortunate, inevitable outcome. That retarded horse making more money than SC2 is still sad though

I will never forgive Blizzard for putting brood lords or swarm hosts into the game.

ASL season 19 final is in 4 days

Nobody wants balance changes ruining the game and new campaigns would be played by maybe half a dozen casuals before being forgotten about in a couple of months

do you think theyll ever make maps that don't favor zerg? maybe not putting elevated terrain behind naturals, so mutas cant get free hits.

That retarded horse making more money than SC2 is still sad though

Do you have any source of this or are you just parroting what that fucking deep voice nepobaby said

Blizzard decided to ruin custom games, the lifeblood of SC1/WC3.
I'm honestly amazed that they never even ATTEMPTED to fix the custom game system in SC2. Did they just give up?

Blame DotA and Blizzard's mismanagement when Icefrog and Eul came to Blizzard about making DotA a standalone game. The genre blew up and blizzard made pennies compared to what they could have and now they have draconian "You don't own anything you make in our map editor" rules that scared everyone who wanted to make a custom map off to fortnite, minecraft and roblox

lobbies are full of custom games though

How are you supposed to play an rts on consoles?

There's a tiny fandom for making custom SC2 campaign mods

Still playing bw almost every day.
Nothing gets my blood pumping like a really intense 1v1.
It’s such a fun and challenging game.
If I just wanna relax, I find a 5v3 or bunker defense game and chill.
BGH games are also fun. This games has it all god damn I love StarCraft so much

depot didn't make

ape opponent going all in

I was masters in HotS era SC2. Should I come back to SC2 or try BW ladder?

not that guy but halo wars was an OK RTS on console.

it's like 30 years old anon nobody except boomers who can't move on still play it.
Next you'll ask what happened to lost vikings.

What happened to lost vikings?

do whatever the fuck you want, attention whore

it's incredible how low artosis's viewcount has been ever since the $5 dectalk and $7 ai song generation was added

I've been playing Brood War on and off for about 20 years now and I have never played against a real human. Always against AI. I am the comp-stomp master. Ask me anything.

what race is your favorite?

My playtime is roughly:
50% Terran
35% Zerg
15% Protoss

it better be 3v5 compstomps.

It's a mix. Sometimes FFA, sometimes 2v3, etc. etc.
Not sure if I've done 3v5 specifically, though. Maybe I have? Not sure.

New sc2 mods and custom campaigns are coming out all the time. No one can topple the king.

no

Why do you keep doing something pose no challenge whatsoever? BW ai is incredibly bad and boring to play against.

play almost every day 3vs3, still fun

I'm still mad.

Was this true or did he lie?

Remember when Flash won 3 ASLs in a row so they made maps so utter dogshit for Terran that every Terran besides Flash got BTFO and one map (Sparkle I think?) literally had 0% winrate for Terran vs Zerg, and yet Soulkey and other Zergs are dominating forever now and maps are still favoring Zerg?

I literally can't watch his stream anymore. It was nice listening to his insight and to chill Terran music but now it's non-stop audio donations spamming cancerous shit.

The profit-to-effort ratio was almost certainly higher, but I've never seen fair numbers.
He definitely lied about working on SCII, he """worked""" in the general conceptual vicinity.

never once seen any proof of this beaides this fuckin' guy who seems to be the kid on the playground who tells you "my dad works at blizzard i know everything!"

No because rts is a dead niche and SC1 and 2 are fine as are. There isnt anything id even say you should do to make a SC3. Not that blizz could even do it.

People who act indignant about this are cringe beyond belief. Nothing would have happened if it had gotten posted online. You can't even articulate why you're supposedly upset about it.

Zerg isnt op right now its protoss. The bulk of gms are protoss. Its just zerg feels op because of serral.

putting elevated terrain behind naturals, so mutas cant get free hits.

i mean protoss can get free reaver hits but yeah it requires more apm to pull off.

Except in this case his dad DID work at Blizzard, even if he was making everything else up.

what difference would having the source code make to the modding community

who knows

This is the sparkling pony that supposedly outsold Starcraft 2 and the reason why we'll never get Starcraft 3 or Warcraft 4.

>what difference would having the source code make to the modding community

None. Any other questions?

How did they get away with it?

having source code doesnt affect modding

you serious?

Correct. There wouldn't have been some mod renaissance or whatever the fuck you midwits think would happen.

Honestly i wasnt sure if you were just a total retard or one of those autistic boot lickers who squeal and writhe around when your favourite billion dollar company is being taken advantage of by some random russian copywriter ignoring website. Maybe both, actually i guess you would have to be the former to be the latter.

no argument

I accept your concession.

Nice meme answer, dog. Why do i have to have some sort of argument against your non argument? The Starcraft map editor allows for a lot of changes but certain things are hard coded and difficult to change. Having tools designed by the community to bypass a lot of those things would allow for more creative UMS games, even if they wouldnt work on battlenet people would still go through the effort to make something that wasnt possible before.

nobody near the top stood up and said "this sucks"

fuck I hope when Flash comes back he gets on the grind and fucks Soulkey in the ass next ASL
These swarmiggers are getting too uppity

12 years

15 years

we finally crafted the star

Ask MS when they ported AoE2 to Xbox and PS5

I was 10 when I started playing starcraft multiplayer

I'm now 31

I want to go back to people making fun of me in multiplayer games for being a kid... At least then I wasn't dreading being close to middle aged

I want to go back to people making fun of me in multiplayer games for being a kid... At least then I wasn't dreading being close to middle aged

Sometimes I feel similar, that I've gone from wondering "am I too young for the internet" to "am I too old?"

A/S/L?

60/Xer/your mom's bussy.

Do pro players even stream? I check soop sometimes, but i never catch any pro player streaming, only a bunch of whos and the few times i see a pro player they seem to be in a call with friends just talking while watching someone else play.

surprisingly well, there has been ports of mant rts to console as others have already mentioned, even 4x works on console like stellaris

why are you feeding a low-effort troll?

it has done its job well, containing the autism of gookclick players from spilling out into gaming at large

Low apm n00b detected.

Any continuation of the series is pretty much dead, both from the changed gaming environment and Blizz having concluded the story in a manner that leaves little room for an actual sequel

Grim

rmcat.github.io/bwstreams/

Good site for keeping track of pro bw streamers. Not many on right now because it's morning in Korea.

Fuck no, SC2 sucked enough dick

Blizz having concluded the story in a manner that leaves little room for an actual sequel

They might not have any sequel bait in 2 but they can remember the UED exists and let them have a round 2.

The absolute state of that map with two geysers where Soulkey solved it with a rush and got two expansions with no counterplay.

For me, it's Kerrigan and the Zerg

Thanks

Can't believe being good at video games can actually get you fangirls in Korea.

somehow... overmind has returned

Nexon bought the rights of starcraft

I thought that I heard something about blizzard auctioning off the IP and someone like Nexon (fucking Nexon) was going to make SC3

Just a license to make some mobile slop.

of course i remember. i was there.

map pool been stuck in an anti-Flash meta rut even after he's been gone, no joke. Zerg are just several pixels of map design away from being sunk. things just move slow, but brood war has always been lowkey balanced by map makers