Aside from bringing up the visuals to Persona 5 standards and adding in fully voiced SLs and basic Light/Dark magic spells, what else could Persona 4 Rewind do to justify the $70/$80 price tag Anon Babble?
P4R Thread
Sell Golden content separately for $35
Inclusion of the anime girl
Better integration of Marie
A side-story where you play as Adachi
Arena ultimax story
Add Denuvo again...to truly optimize the performance.
Devs nowadays are so clueless about optimization they think it's actually helping.
Needs Johnny back as Adachi using the OG voice, not the spin-off voice. They can re-cast everyone else but I need Johnny's Adachi.
nigga I just wanna actually explore the backside of the TV
Why does Izanagi have an erection coming out of his chest
I hope they recast all the english voice actors to piss you dubtroons off
he saw donnie darko
youtube.com
Kashiwagi SL, option to fuck her during vacation. That's it.
More Chie
best girl
This game doesn't need a remake
to persona 5 standards
I'm not convinced of that. P3R wasn't nearly as nice looking as P5 to me personally.
improved graphics and all the Golden content except Marie
KINO
A side-story where you play as Adachi
Being able to play through the whole thing as Adachi would be fun
Fuck you, Adachi's English voice is better then JP.
Doesn't need one, sure, but what does these days? They could just re-release Golden on a toaster and people would still eat it up. But if they're gonna milk it again, at least give us proper 3D models for the environments and let me kick it in Junes in glorious 4K.
add a new female character, perhaps an alternative protagonist
you will never be a real woman
they optimized it with Denuvo, seethe
You would think they would remake Persona 1 & 2, I mean hell, P2 is split into two games, there's an opportunity to combine them, or sell two games there. Makes more sense than splitting the DLC for Persona 3 out of the game.
too dumb to understand what was said
many such cases
if you didn't beat Persona 3 Portable as Kotone Shiomi, then you didn't beat Persona 3.
Make Ai ebihara a party member and kill teddie
Can't wait to see what they do to Naoto and Kanji
I'm not homosexual, I played Persona 3 and FES
yeah, there's two versions
I beat them before you were born
your tranny version of the game is shit
wah I hate Denuvo
seethe
he didn't teach Elizabeth lesbian sex
couldn't be me
It's good but no fucking way.
Crazy to me that people play these games dubbed.
we had no option back in the day you dumb cunt
I don't think it's needed, golden is still great
I speak English, those who spend their time reading subtitles because they choose an illegible voice option are low life retards.
fpbp, let me opt out of marieshit and her shitty dungeon. while they're at it, make sure the game isn't as bright and cheery as Golden was
I only play RGG games subbed.
P5 style dungeon design could actually fit P4R when you think about it
If they actually adjusted the story so post game is Episode Marie, that would be fantastic.
Make Naoto a canon ship
I'm pretty sure the original game was dubbed into English. It's just that most dialog lines weren't voice acted in any language.
I'm still mixed about reload honestly. There's just something off feeling about it. Can't imagine rewind would be any better in that regard.
stoppppppppppp why the fuck do you guys like p5 shit dungeons so muchhhhhhhh
Okay, we're not talking about playing the game twenty years ago itt, now are we?
We have anons talking about which English VAs they want to see in this pointless cash grab remake.
FUCK KAZUHISA WADA
Should just remake 1 and 2/2, most people already know the killer
Anything is better than 10 floors of empty procgen hallways. Also you type like a fag.
Nah, it's better.
His voice is way too high and sounds like a forty year old guy badly pretending to be twenty.
Aside from bringing up the visuals to Persona 5 standards and adding in fully voiced SLs and basic Light/Dark magic spells, what else could Persona 4 Rewind do to justify the $70/$80 price tag Anon Babble?
Try to fix Marie and make her fit the world of P4 better (which feels hard because she feels unnatural and tacked on, but ATLUS would probably try with some hangout events like P3R's or something like that) or remove her entirely (what I actually want, but that I know won't happen.)
I don't know what else they could add. I expect it to be just Golden with better/different visuals, new voiceover and remixed OST really.
Integrate Labrys into the main story
This game doesn't need a remake
I would normally agree, but since ATLUS is unwilling to fix the latest P4G ports, I don't.
P4R is going to be the last chance to have the fog effects back AND to make Marie slightly more likable.
There's a whole inverted version of the town inside the TV
Would be kino
That wouldn't make sense at all.
Marie's inclusion to P4 is nothing like Episode Aigis/The Answer is to P3, which is an extra and fully separate story campaign.
Marie was added to P4 as if she was always there (well, that was the intention anyway) and as a character, her only direct influence in the story is really just that Hollow Forest dungeon iirc. She might as well not exist outside of her SL and the few forced interactions at the beginning.
The point is that you can't really separate her into an "Episode Marie". You can't make an entire story campaign out of a shitty gimmick dungeon and a SL.
please just fix the fog effects
Should just remake 1 and 2/2
That'll happen too. It's a matter of when. Trust the plan.
They should combine the spinoffs into one new megagame.
imagines Persona 4 Remake having Persona 5 style graphics and weather system
Yes and no. No because its too soon after Persona 3's own remake, but yes because ATLUS may as well get their money's worth out of the engine and assets they made for P3R to say nothing of the new English VAs they have on speed dial i.e Chihiro's new VA.
Persona is generally held up as being among the few Japanese media products where the Dub is the preferred way to go for most people
Oh yeah, good point. Golden was clearly made to run on weaker hardware which was fine for its time back in 2012, but after it was ported to Steam back in 2020, the lack of fog effects was noticeable. P4G looked like everything was made out of shiny plastic ala the San Andreas "remaster" that came out back in 2014.
Since wokeness is slowly retreating and to avoid flopping from pandering to trannies they'll maintain the original characterization
You're not wrong, but I'm still gonna bitch because P5 dungeons are just flashy hallways with some canned puzzles and a light sprinkle of platforming. At least with the procgen stuff you felt like you were diving into something weird and otherworldly. P5 style got style, sure, but there's no soul in the layout. Give me Tartarus with an actual theme and we’re cooking.
Citing Midori who got exposed for being a man despite having a FeMC avatar.
lmao
They didn't let you plow Toriumi in P3R despite the memes surrounding her character, so I doubt Kashiwagi will be all spread eagle for Yu's teenage cock in P4R
Nigga, that's his thumb.
Johnny Young Bosch IS Adachi to me, but, he may be too expensive for ATLUS now much like how Troy Baker (Kanji) and Laura Bailey (Rise) are now in 2025. My guess is the P4R Dub cast will be a mix of the P3R cast and new blood in the English VA scene.
Probably Johnny Yong Bosch will only reprise his role as Adachi while Narukami and the gang get new VAs
Rewrite from the ground up so the story isn't shit and the characters aren't all a bunch of one dimensional goody goodies with problems like "I'm bored" and "I have an inn" and "I like sewing".
Narukami
High poly Chie spats with 4k textures and custom shaders like that one gacha game's patented pantyhose shaders
I can only imagine how bad remakes of 1 and 2 will be. You can't fit social link/calendar shit into them which means no dating/anime friend simulator so you've already turned off the Nusona fans. If you try then that means heavily rewriting the stories which pisses off fans of the old games. And then the Nusona fans won't be please anyway because they fucking hate the PSX games for being largely better written than their shit and will just find excuses to defensively shit on them. P5 fans especially are the worst about this.
Yes that's Persona 4 MC name
Thighsex with Yukiko
You can't fit SL/Calendar shit into them
Not a problem
Heavily rewriting the stories
I doubt it
3-5 fans hate 1 and IS/EP
False, some fans who cut their teeth with modern Persona have played the PSX entries and in some cases, like them better than 3-5 if only because they are closer to SMT which Personafags won't stop fagging about anyway.
Why does she have a male frame in this pic?
Completely rework the beginning, the summer, and November. Beginning takes too long, summer has absolutely nothing happening, and November is useless drama that equates to a fuckload of nothing.
I'll be learning to mod myself or commissioning modders to give naoto fat titted venus body kunaboto proportions in all costumes. Price and effort will be no obstacle. The $70/$80 price tag is just another cost of admission.
Should I play p4 even if I know who the killer is? I only have played p3p in the psp, I liked it
Go for it, the SLs, atmosphere and music are still worth it.
Yes, most P4 fans got spoiled on it in advance.
Rework the beginning
Not much can be done without losing the "small town" vibes I'm afraid. I agree 4 is the worst about player agency starting out, but it is what it is and I don't ATLUS changing that.
Summer has absolutely nothing happening
So does 3 and 5 aside from Aigis in 3 and Futaba's palace in 5. Also, summer in 4 is when the Investigation Team think they've caught the killer iirc, so that's not "nothing".
November is useless drama
That's when Nanako's dungeon opens up iirc. Figuring out that the Nanatame is NOT the killer is a crucial part of Nanako's survival and the true killer outing themselves shortly thereafter.
i hate the scooter gimmick in golden so I wonder what the gimmick here will be.
True, I played it in 2022 and it's my favorite game. And I'm a zoomer(though on the older side)
all of the girls pulling you in a sled while you whip them to go faster or slower, you have to collect them all first and train them and then you can use it
You can start off with one and you can only go so far because she gets tired and can't go as fast.
She's incentivized to get the other girls involved and eventually you can travel faster and wherever you want as you get more of them.
cool
Posting best girl
please god don't let them bend the knee and completely ruin her story and writing to cater to troons
I'm not homosexual
I played Persona 3
choose one
go play some cod and quiet down
You can't fit social link/calendar shit into them
And that's a good thing.
P1 and P2 are designed differently than P3 onwards.
I expect a mostly faithful remake. Different visuals, improved gameplay, missing QoL like a classic OST option for P1, but with the same story layout. The only new things I'd expect besides gameplay features are missable but non-mandatory events with the party members similar to P3R's hangouts.
If you try then that means heavily rewriting the stories
That means making entirely different games.
A soft reboot essentially.
I don't think they'll do that.
And then the Nusona fans won't be please anyway because they fucking hate the PSX games
I like both.
I mean, my first Persona game was the PSP version of P1, and then my second game was P4 which I played when the rumors of the P4G PC port started to pop up, and I don't dislike either of them.
Of course there's people who will whine nonetheless, but like, that happens every time and with every single thing.
There's no point in worrying about it.
We will see Anons spouting stupid shit like "the remakes suck the PSP versions are better!" (yes, I said PSP not PS1) just like we get subhumans in the P3 threads every now and then that unironically shill P3P as the superior P3 experience.
Ayane best girl
We will see Anons spouting stupid shit like "the remakes suck the PSP versions are better!" (yes, I said PSP not PS1) just like we get subhumans in the P3 threads every now and then that unironically shill P3P as the superior P3 experience.
Don't forget the morons who will unironically shill for P4G after P4R drops.
We will see Anons spouting stupid shit like "the remakes suck the PSP versions are better!" (yes, I said PSP not PS1) just like we get subhumans in the P3 threads every now and then that unironically shill P3P as the superior P3 experience.
The point of that was that there'll always be shitposters or mentally handicapped people. You just ignore those because nothing they say matters.
Handcrafted dungeons. But given the quick turnaround from P3R. I doubt they're going to do that.
based
AND FIX THE FUCKING FOG
og ps2 is the only version that looks remotely like what it's supposed to
justify the $70/$80 price tag
not remaking it, instead remaking SMT:Digital Devil Saga with modern graphics and releasing SMT4 on anything other than the fucking 3DS
Do you have something against YongYea?
Quick turnaround
Since a good percentage of the work is already done in terms of reusing the P3R assets and engine for P4R, its not unlikely to think they might have pre-made dungeons in P4R as a way to incentivize Persona 4 fans to double dip.
SPBP
but yes because ATLUS may as well get their money's worth out of the engine and assets they made for P3R
retard
Yes but that is irrelevant. What is relevant is that Majima's voice is so distinct in Japanese to me that it was the only thing stopping me from playing pirates in English.
He's right though. Just as P4 was built off the back of P3, so will P4R for P3R
its a b-team remake and the portraits look shit because not soejima and game is just a cheap piece of shit in general, UNFORTUANTELY : (
Hell yeah brother.
Not gonna happen. Stop buying into Anon Babbletard fearmongering.
and the portraits look shit because not soejima
retard
Izanagi in picrel look retarded. That isn't the real cover, right?
its going to be called Rerun
Oh yeah, good point. Golden was clearly made to run on weaker hardware which was fine for its time back in 2012
the vita can handle the fog effects, theres a mod on vita that restores them. Its likely they removed them to emphasize the OLED screen on the vita
P3r looks like shit and its engine and graphics should die with it
That isn't the real cover, right?
No, it hasn't even been announced yet.
Persona is generally held up as being among the few Japanese media products where the Dub is the preferred way to go for most people
kys dubfag, this is honest to god one of the worst posts on the fucking website.
How am I "retarded" anon? Reusing assets and engines is commonplace in video game development unless you think developers just poof new games into existence from thin air. Oh wait...
Bring back the cut Yosuke romance with a repeatable sex mini-game.
canned puzzles
As opposed to fresh ones?
they look so weird, like i just do not like them at all.
Nusona fans won't be please anyway because they fucking hate the PSX games
Is the sky also blue where you come from? Nusona fans constantly claim the Persona 2 games are the best in the series despite never having played them (often not even realizing it's a duology). It became the quintessential hipster opinion when 3 got too popular.
I was calling you a retard because Soejima isn't the one who does the portraits, not since the original P3, he didn't even do P4's. P3R has the same portrait artist as P5R
reusing that piece of shit's assets LOL. Aside from the character models, the assets were among the most criticized things in persona 3 reload. But they'll probably reuse them anyway and i fully expect it to be as cheaply produced as deload was
well... i didnt know that, anyways i just dont like how they look.
more marie
marie sexo
Persona 4 is a glorified ROM hack of 3.
add in all the little spin off games and add a VR mode
looked a lot better than deload did though
i think they should add a new party member who looks like this. i think it would add a lot to the game.
sits on your face and farts in Taco-Bellian*
Izanami social link
They'll add this shit
I think they could pull it off as long as they don't change the timeframe. The worst thing they could do is to try to drag out 1 and 2's plots to fit a year long school schedule.
Just make it so occasionally the party sets up camp or stops at a safe place, and during the downtime you can choose party members to talk to which levels up their social link.
They could double down on the "surviving the apocalypse" angle in 1 in particular.
ATLUS! HIRE THIS MAN!
I mean they already had text messages in the original, so this wouldn't be a giant leap.
That would honestly make sense and is among the most plausible changes they'd implement for P4R.
Did they? I know they didn't for P3 on PS2.
Did they? I know they didn't for P3 on PS2.
It's where the style of texting comes from, Naoto texts like an all caps retard.
They'll add this shit
Yeah, naturally.
P4 happens like 1 or 2 year after P3, so it's justified to add it in P4R after it was added to P3R.
Nothing, why would someone buy persona shit when they could be playing 33 kino instead?
Go shill your trash somewhere else
soon we will be returning to inaba... again...
we're going home lads
Yawn... Wake me up when they remake Persona 3...
When they could be playing 33 kino instead
I get have your preferences, but you don't have to come into this thread and shit on other people's preferences like that. In fact, Expedition 33 is a fine enough game on its own, it doesn't need random asshole anon to speak for it.
Can't wait for the new Kashiwagi social link
It would be impossible
As someone who got Reload and Episode Aegis for less than 50 dollars I still felt like I was scammed
Seeing Mitsuru in Full HD was nice though but atlus leaning into dommy mommy territory with her made me seethe uncontrollably
but atlus leaning into dommy mommy territory with her made me seethe uncontrollably
The fuck are you talking about
NTA but come the fuck on, you know what he's talking about
do you guys think they'll add stupid battle uniforms that ruin the simple premise of regular high school students going to tartarus to kill shadows like what deload added?
New outfits properly depict SEES as what they were trying to be a Specialised Squad using specialised and custom equipment. It's a really nice way to distinguish the SEES team while they're doing their work similar to the Phantom Thieves attire.
But I don't think something like this will be added to the investigation team.
I hope they don't even bother doing that with the investgation team.
I WILL make Yukiko wear the funny glasses like she wants to
I WILL dress Naoto like a prostitute like god intended.
I WILL make Teddy wear the Alice dress
And then the Nusona fans won't be please anyway because they fucking hate the PSX games for being largely better written than their shit and will just find excuses to defensively shit on them.
post made sense until this schizo rambling. if anything the flaws of the original is that the actual gameplay is fated as fuck. i tried playing p1 myself and couldnt stand walking through hallways like an nes game trying to render 3D space. anyone who has ever posted some shit like “the writing from this game is better than p5 and i hate it” was probably baiting and you fell for it like a retard
sorry but the red armband is cooler sadly. i do kinda get Why it would make sense but it just looks stupid. Hope persona 4 doesnt do something like this.
wouldnt mind it. would be kinda convenient compared to p4g where you might waste time looking for people to hang out with and no one is available. or miss out on hanging out with people at night
They should just make every woman romancable and have them replace other S-Links. Because who's going miss shit ones like the Fox, the dweeb you tutor or the jock retards?
Everything from Persona 4 Platinum edition.
Am I the only one who thinks P4 really really does not need a remake? At this point I'm sure the P4fags want one just because P3 got one.
I swear the armband thing is one of the dumbest criticisms of the game I've seen. You can also just use the old armbands.
710680114
Lurk more.
I swear the armband thing is one of the dumbest criticisms of the game I've seen.
why cant i nitpick? persona 3 fes and persona 3 reload are both really good games, but i just prefer persona 3 fes more because it feels more genuine and reload made tons of stylistic decisions that i dont really like.
Reload was almost a 10/10 remake.
But for some reason they really fucked up with the animated cutscenes. WIT studio was a poor pick I think.
Outside of the Thanatos awakening, all the 3d cutscenes were perfectly fine. The Answer suffered by having all the emotion stripped from the animated ones.
none of this shit needs a remake, neither did persona 3 or anything. a cooler and more interesteing remake would be one of the older non persona atlus games.
what else could Persona 4 Rewind do to justify the $70/$80 price
sex with Nanako of course
this shit confirmed? bout to take a month off work if so
But for some reason they really fucked up with the animated cutscenes.
I wish they'd just stop. They always look like shit in every game, feel pointless and break up the flow of everything. Like Joker constantly looks at everyone with his mouth hanging open like a mouthbreathing weirdo in every animated cutscene in P5.
Yeah the animated cutscenes thing is a weird tradition at this point. It used to be used to get around limitations, now it's just there.
make every dungeon like in p5 but they won't do it
i doubt they will even add Aika social link from p4 anime
Stupid battle uniforms
Anon, the Kirijo group is directly funding S.E.E.S, so it'd make sense they'd chip in after a certain point to help make further expeditions of Tartarus more manageable. Also, Reload borrows said idea from the P3 anime movies.
This, they even have unique splash art depending on whether you are wearing the armband or military gear for all the party members even the ones who join much later.
Why do you have to be such a contrarian little bitch?
make every dungeon like in p5 but they won't do it
Making the dungeons way more involved would help justify P4's remake. Tartarus was greatly improved in Reload, although for some ungodly reason they made my favorite block (Tziah) ugly by adding the piss green filter that's not present in any of the others.
Stupid battle uniforms
they look stupid
Why do you have to be such a contrarian little bitch?
why are u such a sensitive little faggot>?
tartarus is still the same boring shit except its much easier and faster to get through the slog
new plotline where you side with Adachi earlier
or "alternate events" a la FF7 remake, something like that MIGHT be worth playing.
Otherwise it's gonna be P4 with P3 engine and worse graphics overall.
this shit confirmed?
Yesn't.
We've known it's happening since last year, we just don't know when it'll be officially announced.
FF7 Remake
Oh Jesus Fucking Christ NO!
P4 with P3 engine
Which is what PS2 Persona 4 was to PS2 Persona 3
and worse graphics overall.
Let's not pretend the PLAYMOBIL looking character models are better looking than the richly detailed character models of 5 and P3R
I meant the P3R engine, which looks like total fucking ass compared to FES. These models are also stylized, which is better than the shitty "style" of P3R. 5 looked okay, but the game sucked.
anon do you have any idea what a game engine actually does?
IT USES UNREAL ENGINE 4
So, a dogshit engine. Fuck unreal. PS2 Atlus was peak, all the soul they had is gone.
ITT retards who don't know what an engine means in the context of vidja dev and retards who are completely unaware of the fact that P3R was made using Unreal Engine blaming it on ATLUS' stylistic choices
Talk shit about P4 all you like but P4 had the best things are going to shit moment. I wish they kinda redo the fog segment since it's a little weird you can hang out with your friends (especially since that 100% guide everyone uses has one of Yosuke SL at him viewing the town and saying it's beautiful lmfao, they should just replace it with bond episodes)
Once again, do you have any idea what a game engine does? You do know game engines don't dictate artstyle, right?
bet they'll shadow drop it like p4g
kinda curious since UE5 games all look the same, what ue5 game actually doesn't look like it's made in ue5. I think it's definitely more lazy developers than the engine's fault though.
Please stop replying to me if you aren't going to answer any of my questions.
I hope we get P5 references in P4.
That one kid who had his entire family murdered by P5 plagues every single Atlus game discussion.
No remake has ever been needed.
wait wut
yeah Persona 5 came to his house and raped and killed his entire family now he has to tell everyone how much he hates it all the time
that story was true because that story was me
the games that need remakes are the dogshit games that nobody likes where a remake would make them playable, but they're dogshit so nobody likes them enough for them to get a remake, so the games that get remakes are games that never needed them
Persona 5 came to his house and raped and killed his entire family now he has to tell everyone how much he hates it all the time
Based if true.
Mark Hamill was cool as Majima
Matt Mercer
Oh god why
I forgot to mention that Maruki fixed everything and brought them back but Joker killed them again and told me to grow from it
Actually be good and not a shitty unfinished mess with bootleg VAs like P3R.
bootleg VAs
unfinished
FOUND THE FEMCFAG
AHAHAHA
HE'S UPSET BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE A GIRL!!!
insecure P3Rfag instantly jumps to "MUH FEMC" instead of the Answer being cut and sold as overpriced DLC, shitty knockoff dub VAs, or day one DLC for a 60$ remake that already has less content than previous versions
Keep sucking Atlus' cock, P3Rfag.
just appeal to SMTfags
Kanji Tatsumi is romanceable.
Kanji is straight.
kys SMTfag
Is it just me or Yosuke is more handsome than the Gary Stu MC?
You're on your own.
I'll take it if we can see a better Nanako than this and allow us to "spend a long time" with her but it shows what's actually happening
That would be neat.
Thumbnail made me think this was a sex animation
Remove all traces of Marie entirely. Replace her with a less terrible OC if you have to
Right threads are my favorites.
Was he right?
Yes, next question! youtube.com
Everyday (sex with) young life! Ju-ne-su!
It's going to be gay, censored, and woke. No thanks.
Everyday young life! Ju-ne-su!
We want more Ai.
AI slop
hell yeah