How does Gaben crush the competition by doing nothing?

so what if we groom fortnite zoomers by giving them some old games for free while we acquire some FOTM no one cares about??

genius!

Epic still doesn't have screenshots and is much more annoying to play games off an external drive

While Valve admittedly does a lot of stuff right, they kind of win mostly on LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE being straight up evil and malevolent to anyone stupid enough to give them money.

So you guys even play your free epic games?

No I just collect them because I installed epic once & it crashed my gpu

invented nothing

makes games less popular when they're exclusive to his platform

doesn't include a shopping cart on his platform

only cares about how much more successful steam is and which games he can buy exclusivity for

praised for ????

poorly built and gameless platform

thanks tim

invented the battle pass

Their battlepasses are good and always profitable if you want to resell the drops, blame the enshittification on other companies.

popularized loot boxes

Their loot boxes are all esports cosmetic shit, who cares

includes gambling in all his games

For cosmetic shit, who fucking cares
Just sell the skins/cases for profit, for me that's a good thing since I don't care about skins and reselling that crap nets me a few free games every year

doesn't care about predatory third party gambling sites because he profits from them

They do and just killed half of them with the trade ban update a year or 2 ago

praised for his refund policy even though it's the result of losing a lawsuit

So? It could've been restricted to Australia only, yet they didn't, they decided to make it global. Not only that, they made it the best return policy around.

abandons his games

Dunno what that means but Valve does the opposite of that. They still update shit like HL1/HL2 and CS 1.6, while most companies just forget about their old games.

poorly moderated and bot infested platform

Low moderation is good. And I don't see a lot of bots, so it's ok I guess.

I don't have epic to redeem, sir.

Forgot pic

killed tf2 with economy shit

Killed TF2

A precession of fags TO THIS DAY claiming affiliation with it for status (this means you)

I'm thinking no

i mostly don't care about epic but holy shit does what happened to RL still piss me off

I don't care about rocket league and I think it's shit.
Same with Payday 2

wtf does payday 2 have to do with anything

don't care, don't play valve games

Most of your points are irrelevant. This is about Steam, not Valve. Epic killing Unreal Tournament for Fortnite isn't a point against EGS

poorly moderated

This troon is complaining about lax moderation and expects us to take him seriously.

Apparently when it moved to Epic Online Services it near immediately became completely unplayable.

oh I wasn't aware it moved to EOS, I've never actually played it

It is amazing how Tim Sweeney because the antigaben. He pays companies millions of dollars to functionally not release their games. He pays the developers of already released games to unrelease their games. He pays developers of already released online games to functionally shut down their servers so nobody can ever play them again. He is legitimately the grim reaper of PC gaming.

No, I have probably 200+ free games from Epic and I have never played or even installed a single one of them. I don't even have EGS installed I get them from the website whenever I think to check.

Is it amazing? He pretty much always seemed like he had zero actual strategy and saw himself at some arbitrary point in progression to becoming the "monopoly" that Steam was? It's pretty obvious that would cause a bunch of retarded issues.

By channeling the immense gravity produced by his corporeal vessel Gaben can implode lesser game retailers on a whim.

He thinks he can use the same strategies that made Unreal the most popular engine for game dev on the consumer side of things. The difference being that Unreal was actually a good engine up until unreal 5 and when it became shit recently, the inertia of using Unreal has been an industry norm for over 15 years. It's the exact opposite for consumer facing software in the gaming world

The competition simply refuses to put in the effort requires to make a better product than Steam. Combine that with the fact that they are essentially trying to get everyone to abandon their Steam libraries, and you have a recipe for disaster.

remember when they bought fucking Fall Guys and tried to turn it into a f2p mtx money printer game even tho it was basically a fad that had already long passed by the time they bought it

who thought that was a good idea

didn't mean to reply to that post oops

it's fine
I do remember that by the way

I still to this day refuse to buy any game that was EGS exclusive, even temporarily

Not him but

battle passes

They were invented by Valve for Dota 2

no that was EA

He specifically said popularized, not introduced. It's undeniable that TF2 popularized lootboxes for the industry and was the main driving force for normalizing "it's fine if the MTX is just cosmetic"outside of shitty MMOs by tethering such concepts to the Hats that Valve got the entire playerbase obsessed over the year prior.

you're just restating the lootbox point again for some reason

His reason is rather clear: it's to show how prioritized lootboxes are for Valve and how pervasive they are in their games. It's one thing to do it once, it's another to push it wherever they possibly can.

idk how you could even get rid of gambling sites

This is indeed a shakier part of his points, but at the same time, Valve has done a lot to hedge against and limit trading in order to "defend" consumers elsewhere from third-party issues but stop short of really trying anything when it comes to something scummy but they can more easily make money off of without being at fault, so one could still argue it shows they'll gladly take the scumbag route if they can

abandons his games

I mean, you already know that Valve will do things like avoid basic maintenance updates for games they're still pushing out new lootboxes for, along with abandoning games like Artifact after they botched them and fucked over players

Is this in reference to the gambling sites

Most of Valve's shit is infested with bots. If it's not in-game bots that fuck with trading and queues, then it's stuff like how the Steam Workshop is filled with bot farms that'll do things like mass-downvote actual submissions while pumping up ones that advertise their (often scam) websites, copy a mod and bury the original to push their own version that often has illicit shit inside, or otherwise try to manipulate what submissions for cosmetic items will be approved for the game in order to snag all the potential revenue

i let it slide when it's certain indie studios where that money basically keeps the studio alive
but anything else same. I think the scummiest I've seen so far is fucking IOI, gigantic company with offices in like 6 countries but oh poor us we need a handout from timmy please understand

That Apple court case that aired all of his dirty laundry was what destroyed all good will. They even explicitly said that the EGS was only created for the sole purpose of suing Apple and Steam. It's why it didn't have a shopping cart for almost three years. Word got out that the Epic payout to developers was less revenue than what they would make on Steam.

steamies are drone shills who own nothing like that happy kek meme

Epic usually refunds me instantly, even on games I've had 10+ hours on. These storefront wars are retarded.

Gaben is good for PC gaming, but a lot of what he does is done only because he gets too greedy and gets fucked.

fuck off dude I love fat ma

Gabe's goal is to play dota forever. sad he has the most obsessive dick riders ever.

fat man

sells Rocket League

Have fun with the dying game Tim!

Those couches are gonna get ruined with mold fast.

Steam wouldn’t even let you choose which drive/folder to install games to. For 10 years every game had to be installed to the Steam folder.
But it was OK when Valve did it.

with mold

with cum, actually

Oh no! Hope the maid knows to replace them every day.

Not mentioned he admitted in court he would take a special deal with Apple, putting the lie to his claim that he was fighting for "developers."

Oh no! Not the Steam folder!
How is this a problem?

gabe wants to play the best game ever made forever

yeah i'm thinking based

the fuck would he even sue steam for
the apple one was a legit case because they were larping as a payment processor even for transactions that weren't going through them

he was unironically trying to angle for suing steam for "being a monopoly"

if that was an actual concern the FTC would just do it themselves
which they aren't going to do ever because they got absolutely humiliated by the Microsoft/Activision fiasco

He probably was hoping Valve would try to do something over them buying temporary exclusives, but they didn't take the bait so it never panned out.
I'm guessing like the Apple and Google cases he had a whole thing already planned out.
Some people believe that the Wolfire V Valve case is a proxy for Epic since they both use the same law firm as Epic did for Apple and Google, but I'm not 100% convinced.

he sucks cock, and his gay esg was supposed to supply him with cum

total tranny death

pretty dumb if he actually thought valve was gonna react to that, their primary income is the marketplace they were never gonna panic just bc a few random games go exclusive

did he think they were gonna go buying up publishers or something

cum sucker

Some people believe that the Wolfire V Valve case is a proxy for Epic since they both use the same law firm as Epic did for Apple and Google

i already kind of assumed this but i didn't know they used the same law firm
now i am 100% convinced

Well judging by his decisions over the last few years Tim isn't exactly the wisest individual

cosbey sweater

its so absurd.
the one time i paid for a product on the microsoft store it was a dumpster fire experience. then being forced to use their app for minecraft was somehow even worse at times.
the only steam alternative that hasn't bit me in the dick is GoG

super jew Cosby sweater

They only good alternatives to Steam on PC are GOG and itch, because they actually offer something that Steam doesn't.

GOG actually doesn't offer something Steam doesn't

But installers and DRM free

Developers can literally include an installer in their repository and completely abstain from using any DRM (Included Steamworks) in their game if they want to.
Hell GOG can't actually provide you "owning" your games like they claim either because software licensing doesn't work like that. Only that it would be POTENTIALLY too much effort to go after some random gogfag with installers.

If you can't install the game without the Steam launcher, it's still locked up by Steam. It will never be as free as stand alone installers.

Nah EA was 100% the company that popularized lootboxes. Their sports games having rng player drops was what sent their profit margins to the moon

You illiterate halfwit
What part of

You can include installers and have your game be DRM free in your repository

Did you not understand?

Anon, does Steam allow you to download a game without the client?

Can you download game installers from GOG without connecting to their server?

MS flight simulator forced me to do that and it was a horrible experience

Tim has a higher net worth than gabe
Tim won

You probably dont even know that epic used to make partial refunds automatically if a game I bought recently suddenly became cheaper. Does it still happen I dont know because I only use epic for genshin and wuwa.

Epic is going to win cause he got the children audience meanwhile Steam audience is afing millennials, free games he gives makes these kids build a library with Epic while Valve does nothing and will die with Gabe

That's not the same thing and you know it. On GOG (or any other DRM-free store) you can just download the game and run it. With Steam, you must download the client, then download the game. Steam is inherently more restrictive even in your ideal scenario where a dev happens to go out of their way to reduce / remove DRM.

how does a jewish monopoly keep getting jewish judges to agree with them?!?!?!?!

wow I cannot be certain but I'm noticing a pattern

Well they didn't have to do much, they already had a great platform running and their "competition" literally shot themselves in the foot over and over so it was basically sit down, relax, and watch them burn

That would be a sound plan but the Fortnite kids are like 90 console and mobile and I doubt they give a shit about a PC store.
It's been 6 years and third party sales are going down not up.

???

What Valve did to the Artifact fanbase will go down in infamy!

No anon, I'm not going to pretend your made up standard where having to sign into a website to download a game and it's included installer is magically better experience because muh "Steam Client".
Nor am I going to allow you to continue to pretend that I haven't stated twice already and three times now that developers can include installers in their repository.

Yes I know you're brand warring zealot who feels genuinely upset when someone doesn't mindlessly suck Valve off.

sorry but your based aryan hitler fan timmy is a capitalist too

Dude, you're doing that for GOG.
Nevermind that you started this conversation out pretending to be a neutral party by mentioning both GOG and Itch, and have shifted entirely to trying to promote GOG.

you're doing the exact thing you're complaining about

It's absurd to say that Steam has less DRM than GOG, a platform built on having no DRM, because Steam can potentially release games without DRM. That's not a matter of brand warring.

valve isn't perfect, but honestly they could be a lot worse and I'd still prefer them to Timmy Epic because they've either personally or indirectly fixed like 90% of the outstanding issues with linux gaming and WINE over the last few years. tbqh they're probably the single most effective big corporate linux sponsor these days as far as the average end user is concerned, there's zero chance any of those problems would have ever gotten fixed by gn*me or redhat or IBM
and the end result is that all but like 2 of the EGS freebies I've been leeching over the years run just fine under Heroic or Lutris or whatever, so thanks for the free games Tim (even though you called me a fucking leaf 6 years ago)

Thanks to his monopoly on game engines. We must stand together against the tyranny of Unreal

Been hearing this shit for 7 fucking years. The Fortnite kids in 2018 are grown ass adults who still aren't buying games on EGS.

build an audience of people who expect free games

expect this audience to begin buying games

????

He eats any competing stores before they can get a foothold in the market.

as a racist I stand with the bumbaclots

is there any art of gaben voring tim

I don't even have an account and I never will.

no lmao

children audience

I was in middle school when Fortnite came out and now I'm married with a newborn. The Zoomers have chosen Steam, cut and dry.

Because he's so damn fat.

"Customer experience" is unheard of in the gaming industry

Tim Epic owns and has helped develop Unreal Engine, the most widely used, powerful and popular 3D engine around

can't make a decent store front to save his life

Gaben owns and has made Steam, the most widely used game platform

gave up on Source 2 being anything but the #1 engine installed on eastern European toasters

They're the exact opposite of each other.

I don't think it's that hard to discern why someone of Gaben's physique may excel at crushing things.

and still to this day dota 2 battle passes are the only ones that are not dogshit

Also Gen Alpha went to Roblox. Fortnite is now the boomer game.

I've never been denied a refund ever even when I've clearly gone over the 2 hour and 2 week limit because I'm not a bigger that abuses the system.