I enjoy Warhammer Fantasy more than 40k

those fucking losers are sleeping on the best lore

hopefully before 2030

never
lol.lmao.kek even.

Warhammer sucks.

Play Return of Reckoning

Both settings are horribly written.
They have never said that they are not working on Pathfinder anymore. They have even said they are open to doing more pathfinder in the future.

If I was to get into warhammer vidya, where would I start?

also I think I may join a games club in my town and play some warhammer/40k. Never played it before. How newb friendly are they?

Total Warhammer isn't Warhammer Fantasy.
40K is a patchwork of shitty tropes.
I preferred Fantasy being dead because unlike 40K it wasn't being updated to the current shitty tropes. Now skaven have ugly new models and blood bowl shows that whoever designed Votann wanted to destroy fantasy dwarfs too - though I'm surprised there are no girls on this team, given how they've been forced on other nuteams.
They'd struggle to justify the reddit fantasy of having half the characters being brown and not from Araby, or being black and not from the world because they're not pygmies and GW would like to forget they were around when it was appropriate to point out pygmies are real or to have racial caricatures of people who didn't live in your country until recently.

Warhammer vidya. Where would I start?

Vermintide 2. It works perfectly well with almost zero knowledge of the setting. One of the best games ever made, to say nothing of "best Warhammer vidya".

Then what

If you like Fantasy, the be-all end-all Fantasy game is Total Warhammer 3, though the AI is so bad that it's dangerously close to a roleplay simulator where you make-believe that you're playing a real strategy game. Still a crazy cool representation of every WHFB race as well as some that were never on tabletop.

it's not a real strategy game?

It's really cool and VERY thematic in the multiplayer, which almost no one plays. Watch Turin's casted TWWH3 matches, they're great. Very high skill and the spirit of the races really shines through.

Then what

fuck, Dawn of War maybe? 40k is trash. The best 40k game is Darktide but Darktide is also a VERY bad representation of the 40k world.

Tabletop

I think most people start collecting the miniatures for its own sake THEN transition to actually using them in a game. You basically have to do this because a tabletop army is freaky expensive and painting them is an entire hobby on its own.

Could be worse, they could have been what chorfs were.

I see you piccolo cuck. You thought you'd slip into this thread from the darkest depths of Anon Babble and shit talk my favorite tabletop autism hobby. You now have 5 mins to apologize and type a 3 paragraph post about why the Emperor is so amazing and awesome or I'll find you IRL and rape you in front of your family and kick you dog. Faggot

bloat does not mean good. Nitpicked or not

oh boy, another tourist thread.

U ‘avin a giggle, m8?
Dune, starship troopers, judge dredd, elric off the top of my head.

Fantasy has more factions and races than 40k.

baby's first warhammer vidya

What genre do you like? There's pretty much one for each genre.
Except most of them are outdated by now and none were canon to begin with. Fantasy has the least games for obvious reasons.
Oh and you need to remember most of them are cash grabs DLC money milkers for the weak minde-

I'm 18 or less

Oh okay! Then you won't mind being pointed to literally just Darktide, Vermintide, Boltgun, Rogue Trader, Total War Warhammer or Mechanicus, in that order. None of them at all will insult your modern sensibilities! I'd avoid Chaos Gate because it's more underbaked than the rest of nuHammer games and plenty of people bounced off the Firaxis XCOM it was based on even when the bandwagon said "You must love current thing!"

local club

newb friendly

Depends on the club. GW shops are supposed to be uniformly good but I understand if you live in a different country.
Remember that even if you're buying third party (which you won't know about right now because you're a newb) then you're dropping £/$100 on models and paints before you even get a codex and no-one likes a grey army!

Warhammer: Dark Omen
The predecessor Shadow of the Horned Rat is also good but might be a little dated for your first game.

see

It has better factions too. Skaven and Vampire Counts and Tomb kings.

WH3 is going to be a ghost town the second 40k launches and will never get another piece of content after.

Let's see... greatsword, greatsword... greatsword... and greatsword.
40K on the other hand has marines, marines, forgeworld krieg, marines... and unpainted tau.

For fantasy either vermintide 2 or total war

For 40k, can't go wrong with dawn of war except soulstorm

I fucking love medieval fantasy

magic

mystical fantastical world with impossible geography and architecture

implied innate magic in every living being which allows larger than life feats so long as you work hard even if you're not a magic user

humans/dwarves/elves in an endless war against greenskins and other monsters, occasionally at war with themselves which only works to weaken them against the real threats

a million different paths for an individual normal human to take from mage to warrior to vampire to lich

hell yeah

skaven

genestealer cults mog them

vampire counts and tomb kings

Im bundling these two together because the only thing that makes these two even remotely interesting is Nagash and his influence on the winds of magic. Also uh....necrons or dark eldar kinda make their stchikc better.

genestealer cults mog them

No, they do not mog Skaven.

No one gives a fuck about genestealer cults lmao.

bundling vamps and tombs

they're not even close to similar. Vamps are evil aristocrats leading mindless puppets. Tomb kings are neurral aristocrat leading intelligent undead. Vamps can replenish their number. Tomb kings have a set population and they can only get fresh troops by unearthing tombs.
also

genestealer cult mogging skaven

lmao
kek even

I just bought this game
I got Warhammer 1-3 and all Warhammer 1 (except Warriors of Chaos since the DLC for them seems like an expensive mess) and 2 DLC + Malakai DLC cause I really want to play dwarfs
Did I do good?
I have 400 hours in Shogun 2 and collected Warhammer since I was a kid

Hmmm?
Tiger. Tiger, tiger, tiger.
Bird. Birdy. Birdy birdy.

Understandable.
I used to enjoy both until 8th ED 40K came and fouled it all up.

A most retarded post you posted.

I'll check out total war warhammer 3 especially as it;s on steam now. Are any of the DLCs recommended for it as well or is the base game enough? I think I'll go to my local club and watch people play first as well to see if it's something I want to get into it. Thanks anons.

Based 40k enjoyer

Or is the base game enough

There's a bunch of bullshit explaining the DLCs but in general, no, the game is not enough. Because you're just getting it, I suggest you take a look at the races first, pick which one looks the most interesting to you, then only get that DLC.
The only race in base TWWH3 that is playable and currently roster-complete without DLC is Slaanesh, who has one campaign, N'kari. Slaanesh's DLC is end-of-summer.
Alternatively, creamapi to get dlc for free.
Let me know what race(s) look cool and I'll give you a DLC writeup. Extra note: SSD is non-negotiable, do not attempt to play this on a HDD.

Not even close

DLCs only unlock new races and units. Just play the base game first and see whatever faction you like, then buy the DLCs for it.

I genuinely can't comprehend how anyone can even think this. Fantasy is so much better than 40k in literally all regards it's not even fucking close. Even the fact that it ended, no matter how shitty that ending was, as opposed to the endless status quo of 40k, interlaced with collecting primarchs like they're pokemon, makes it superior.

but theyre both filled with tropes

They're both insanely derivative and unoriginal, 40k even more so because half of it's ideas are taken straight from Fantasy where they were already taken from elsewhere. They work because there's something for everyone in their huge mish-mash universes.

Refund now, don't fucking buy all that DLC until you know if you even like the game.

But I really want to play Dwarfs

You don't need 1 or 2 to buy 1 or 2's DLC for 3.
Buy King and the Warlord and Malakai's DLC. That gives you access to THREE Dwarf campaigns (Belegar, Malakai, and Grombrindal who was free DLC) while unlocking every dorf unit. Unless you desperately need to play Thorgrim or Ungrim, don't buy TWWH1 yet.

WoC

Similarly to the dorf situation, buying WoC is a bit of a waste. Buy Champions of Chaos instead, which while a cringe should-have-been-there-on-release DLC, gives you access to 5 total WoC campaigns (4 Champions + Belakor) while unlocking a bunch of shit for the monogods.

they're not even close to similar.

Eldar legit are the same things to other living beings and dont limit it to just humans. Also the most interesting bit about vampire counts arent the backgrounds of the von cumstains, but the red kiss and how its treated as disease.

Tomb kings have a set population and they can only get fresh troops by unearthing tombs.

also
so necrons but less interesting. Who also dont actively make the setting worse by reminding the audience how retarded the settings scale is (that is supposedly grounded).

Let me know what race(s) look cool

Is there a list of races anywhere as I may be missing some from a quick google but races that look cool are

daemons

dark elves

high elves

vampire

tomb king

wood elves

also whatever lets me use dragons is cool too

3 has a lot of problems. I'd suggest buying 1 and 2 on keysites to get the big combined campaign on 2

you might love Imrik the dragon tamer then. he's probably the most fun high elf to play and has a pokémon like mechanic for dragons.

You are fucking retarded. Literally no one cares about the red kiss, not a single person likes vcs for that. People like vcs because they have zombies and terrorgeists and necromancy, not the made up bullshit you just came up with.

tks

necrons but less interesting

lmfao
Necrons are the way they are BECAUSE of tomb kings. They used to be terminators in space, the whole dynasty thing was literally ripped from fantasy 1:1.

Look how triggered they are at this simple truth, lmao

fpbp

not the made up shit you made up

A tww secondary I see.

durrr Dey made duh necrons because of duh tomb kangz!!!

Basic trope, not even one that gw made up at the time.

pic related is all races

Daemons

DoC as a campaign is pretty mid, the mechanics need a rework and unlocking more Daemons from every monogod requires quite a bit of DLC. However, if you want to try it, DoC's one campaign (Daemon Prince AKA Daniel) is base game anyways.

Delves/Helves

Buy Queen and Crone. This unlocks both races. You'll get 3 campaigns for Delves (Hellebron, Lokhir, Rakarth) and 3 campaigns for Helves (Larry, Suite Life of Alith Anar, and Imrik)

Vampires

They only have one DLC, Grim and the Grave. They are very outdated, no DLC or overhauls since game 1, fair warning.

Tomb Kings

They have no additional DLC, buy their race pack and you're good

Welves

Twisted & Twilight gives you two Welf campaigns (Sisters and Drycha) and makes them feature-complete.

I like dragons :)

Good news, there is a dragon-focused campaign. It's Imrik of Calador of the High Elves.
Queen and the Crone is the better Helf DLC for you because it also unlocks Dark Elves, but if you want, you could grab Warden & The Paunch as well if you want the units (Eltharion's DLC is 2 units of elite melee infantry and a unit of White Lions (war dogs))
retarded outdated opinion, IME in 3 is the best TW experience. The ONLY reason to go back to 2 is if you specifically want to play the VERY FEW campaigns that are better on Vortex than they were on ME or IME.

I never said it didn't exist you moron, but the red kiss is not, and never was, the reason people cared about vamps.

Basic trope, not even one that gw made up at the time.

Ok.
Tomb kings still did it better. In fact I preferred necrons when they were evil space terminators.

Tomb Kings are pretty fun, they play differently compared to most other factions since most things have unit caps.
I've never really made it to endgame with Vampires. I really like playing them shambling horde style, but then you can't autoresolve anything, so I burn out.
Dark and High elves are pretty similar, and pretty standard.
Wood Elf campaigns are interesting, because you don't really hold territory well, besides the big forests. You also get to teleport all over the map, it's pretty fun.

High Elves (Imrik in particular), Dark Elves and Wood Elves use dragons (in descending order of importance/power).

The way DLC works, if you don't have it, you won't have access to lords/buildings/units that DLC would unlock (you can bypass some of those restrictions but it requires very specific circumstances so effectively you have to have the DLC).

40globohomo

gazillion of shovelware games ranging from mobile garbage, chess to MTX filled wannabe dotas
another 2 dozen mediocre games (see anything ork related)
occasional good game

Warhammer Fagtasy

limited selection, most of the games are at least decent

Age of Smegmar

lol lmao even

ok buddy sure 3 is the best total war with the most abborant sieges, cartoonish colors, reworks who powercreep the factions to hell (the warriors of chaos mostly), new factions that aren't as interesting as the old ones (and slaneesh cultist mechanic got gutted by the copypasting).

A few qol can't make up for all the loses

Why do orks attract the most middling devs?
They're never shit but they're never good, and they're always outdated

abhorrent sieges

were never good

cartoonish colors

I find 2 to be by far the uglier game, especially the UI

reworks that powercreep

fucking annoying but I can't even blame the game that hard because it's always braindead thanks to the literally nonfunctional AI, no matter what game

New factions aren't as interesting

ogres and kislev (pre-DLC) are based

over 2/3 of fantasy games are actual dogshit when you compile the whole list. Its honestly amazing, im also surpried vermintide still picked up from the shit show of the first game but here we are.

TRUKE

NPC

I've learned that I don't really like Warhammer at all. The TW:W games just happened to be enjoyable.

Fantasyfags in shambles

good post
Only NPCs who can't appreciate Tolkien like fantasy

fantasytroon goyslop consumer calling anyone a NPC

Look into the mirror, fattie

ive only played the video games and I find this to be true
maybe the 40k games are just shit? idk

40k is the paypig setting, alongside that GW considers vidya simple adverts for plastic figures meaning they give their license to any mobile game

But Skaven is literally the only unique and fun idea GW has ever had, and they are a Fantasy thing.

40kfags are 10 times the consumers fantasyfags are. You know this. Don't pretend.

Ignore every retarded paypiggy that talks about buying DLC and just creamapi that shit.

Even normal faggets on this tibetan basket weaving forum don't say truke.
Grow up.

you do realize he just says that to get some cheap (you)s

40k subsists entirely on two things.
1. Rule of Cool
2. Power Level Autism
the rule of cool demands that 40k push the envelope to such a retarded degree that it makes the setting basically not function as a setting. Races can't really interact without huge amount of narrative red tape, because it's cool to say battles in 40k have death tolls of billions no characters that aren't space muhreens can have any impact, etc.
The power level autism is just as bad. 40kniggers always fucking compare shit.

Uhm did you know master cheef is a bitch who uses a regular gun when spess muhreens are billion year old god warrior super soldiers who are holy and they use guns only its a bolter which is like a ROCKET LAUNCHER PISTOL it would break master queef's arm if he tried to pick it up

except without power level comparison tism, space marines are just regular ol' fiction super soldiers, and bolters are functionally just a magnum in any other setting.

Whenever someone tries to actually do something with 40k that isn't fluff text, they have to either break the rules of the narrative to make it work (Darktide) or they have to boil down the power level retardation to lore-breaking levels to make it work (every 40k game)

pot calling the kettle

lmao, I don't buy overpriced GW shit, fuck those bongs

grow up

After you grow your penis back, tranny

And how 40k isn't just pule of scifi tropes? You forgot your terminators? Or starship trooper bugs? Your emperor from dune and space marines from dune? Judge dredd policemen? Goyim workshop cultist are so niggerish

I'm not a thief.

t. closet furfag who hangs around in discord with minors

based and lawful good

Me too, but even then I somewhat dislike some pretty fundamental things about the setting.

You see, 40k is a patchwork of good tropes and satire while fantasy is very basic run of the mill fantasy, even bg3 and witcher 3 blow it out the water

what an embarrassing thing to post

our own history is now generic fantasy

nuke the colonies

Sorry you feel that way.
I'll be sure to not trust you.

oUR oWn HiStury

Yeah Its kinda boring because then Id just invest into a better setting like a ASOIAF with some semblance of scale and united ideas instead of a mish mash of a setting that doesnt understand itself in any serious matter.

40k

Space Marines, Space Marines, Space Marines, Space Marines.

Did you know who cool this Space Marine Captain here is? Here, have a even cooler Space Marine Lieutenant. Courage and Honor, Friend!

What? Screentime for things not Space Marine. Yes, i guess we can have 5% for everyone else

Warhammer Fantasy

Want some Empire? Here you go. High Elves? Sure, gotcha. Dwarf action? Right this way, sir. Oh, Lizardmen? Turn your gaze this direction.

semblance of scale

40 billion guards, 40 million tons of corpse starch were lost to reconquer the agri world of bumfuckus nowhericus
but then Fart Smellicus the Vile, Hound Master of Slaanesh arrived to lay siege with his 40 Gorrilion strong gayos forces
come on now, even the Black Library authors can never keep up with it, the only time 40k books shine when they abandon the galaxy side conflict and focus on individual conflicts

I almost want TW:40k to exist just to see what percent of the releases are fucking humanshit
unending deluge of space marines, would make the skaven in twwh look like vcounts

This is why we can't have cool things anymore and companies end up selling 20$ snoop dogg skins for their forever online games instead of actual dlcs.
Have you considered finding job or ending your misery if you're poor & brown?

dlc is the original cancer zoomoid
expansion packs>dlcs

Everyone who knows both games and settings agrees in my experience.

Being a kid I thought 40k was the shit with intergalactic wars on a massive scale, so many different races, everything going pew pew.
Growing up I realised fantasy have the more cohesive world, better characters and such despite being set on just one planet. Sometimes less is indeed more.

Should I play total warhammer 1 and 2 before 3?

another anon will cry but I think you should play 2. it's a good continuation of 1 and isn't falling apart like 3

Growing up I realised fantasy have the more cohesive world, better characters and such despite being set on just one planet.

Its a shame warhammer settings aren't that. >Sometimes less is indeed more.
Lmao. This absolutely isnt true for warhammer at all. The settings thrive off of bloat, hell I bet half of the info people know about warhammer all differ greatly and is all retconned information that range from all the different editions of warhammer ranging from first, second,5th, and post 6th. Thats like 20-30 years of the setting changing hands between different people all with different...visions, if it can even be called that.

trannies live rent free in anon's head

anon loves nu40K

Cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

You shouldn't play Warhammer at ALL. Play Three Kingdoms. Fantasyslop is ruining the TW series.

sorry I want more than simply spearmanni volund

How can Repanse fit Henri's Massif schlong? She is so small.

Henry is a pious man he wouldn't do anything to Repanse you putain de pervert

The creativity is in the faction lore.

OPBP. Nothing else needs to be said.

WHF has much better Empire of man than 40k simply because Sigmar isn't as dominant as God Emperor. You are free to worship other empire gods, not only Sigmar or his variations. This, and magic being much more versatile system to psychers shit makes It much interesting as setting for humanity to live in.
Not even talking about how WHF has much better xenos representation.
Sadly Games Workshop wants to bring God Emperor wank to Old World via Cathay, but at least it's only chinks.

Even Cathay could have been interesting because each siblings seemed to have some flaws but the last ttw dlc said the admin dude is perfect

40k is too dry and grimdark
fantasy is fun

Adeptus Cuckstodes a.k.a Adeptus Femoides

Not even talking about how WHF has much better xenos representation.

looks into WHY GW never wrote many stories for Lizardmen outside of random mumblings

looks into the absence of wood elves doing fuck all

ogres lmao

chorfs got killed for ogres, somehow they still got some more snippets than what ogres got because dwarves existed

tomb kings were stagnant and legit left alone until the last minute, aside from that their lore was basically "we are worse vampire counts"

Brets were kind of in the same boat as tomb kings and introduced grim derp to gw settings, not a xeno faction I know but I might as well at this point.

alright everything else was pretty much fair game in terms of the spotlight.

Lizardmen isn't a faction you can straight up write books about, since most of them are flash automatons. Every Lustria snippet is a Lizardmen story. Spectrum of Lizardmen is too large. Lord Kroak is a living nuke and Oxyotl is a doomguy for example. Because of that they're more fancied to be supporting or second role to whatever traditional story they're in.
Wood Elves are isolationists with the whole focus of fighting beastmen of all things. You can write about rogue elements like Kirillian, but not much more.
Ogres have Golgfag. And 50% of their culture is adopting culture of whoever they work for.
Chorfs having more snippets than ogres is a blatant lie. Most of chorfs lore is funny tall hats and big train. They have so little lore they don't even battle with regular dwarfs with fear of them going extinct.
Tomb Kangs have tones of lore. In fact entirety of Naggash and Vampires lore are Tomb Kangs lore. Most famous vampires are tomb kangs. The only downside is they are sleeping fallen empire that doesn't do much because of that.
Brets by their sole nature are great, along side with Kislev and South Kingdoms, since you get human that does not worship Sigmar. But in exchange they really have fuck all lore outside of some orc invasions and maybe crusades to Araby.
That said all of the is much better than what WH40K has. Especially for elves. Only xenos that might have it better in 40K than WHF are orcs, vut you xan really debate on that.

I'd still kill for a book of a conquistador studying skinks, love these little angry gobbers

Only xenos that might have it better in 40K than WHF are orcs, vut you xan really debate on that.

Maybe if you just talk about orcs specifically, but greenskins as a whole are way more better in fantasy.

40ks great weakness is how one note it is. The Imperium hates everyone else and kills them on sight. And on the very rare occasion they dont, its a desperate alliance that will end in betrayal anyways.

You cant have a eldar quarter on a hive world. You dont have Necron embassy in some imperial city. Fantasy gives you this variety. Want the empire intermingle with the dwarves, the high elves, the bretons, the wood elves and the ogres? You can, no biggie, dont need to twist and bend the lore. And that means the amount of plots and stories you can tell is vastly larger and more varied.

skaven

You kinda have that in WH2 Markus Wolfhurt campaign. I also think WHRP has Lustria supplement with Lizardmen, Skegi, Luthor Harkon and amazonians (not sure about last one)

didnt know anything about fantasy before playing tw, it became one of my favourite games ever and I'm 9 books deep into gotrek&felix now

Total War: Warhammer as it is now is kind of an impossible childhood dream come true for me

Fantasy is ruining Total War

Play 3k

1.5k hours in WH2

1.5k hours in WH3

WH2 ended up being the better game. Even just the vortex campaign beats anything WH3 has to offer.

What's a good order to read them in? I've been wanting to check them out since playing malakais campaign a hundred times

You start with the first book, then you read the second, then the third, and so on.

What a revelation man, thank you. I looked it up a while ago and there were arguments online to skip around and not bother with some of them. I did start the first one though and the first part where they describe the slaaneshi sacrifice was pretty cool

i like both
it's just fantasy getting significantly better games than 40k almost all the time, and it's annoying

furfag goblins

Really original.

the empire is significantly more flexible than the imperium
thats why coin speaks louder than any sigmarite

the first one is more of a collection of short stories and worldbuilding but I wouldnt skip it, the mainstory starts on the 2nd book (skavenslayer)

3K is Fantasy for bugmen. It has noting to do with history. You want a modern historical game play Dynasties.

The Dawi are more akin to the Imperium than the Empire itself, imo.

Thanks, I like short stories so thats cool, and I've been looking forward to reading more about the skaven so thats something to look forward to. I love the snippets on the loading screens in the total war warhammer games about them.

Imperium of Man are disgustingly Skaven, really. You don't see dwarfs nuking their settlements just to fuck everyone else.

Anon, 40K gives 101 reasons for any faction to side with the Imperium.
There are squats and """ogres""" living peacefully in the imperium. Beastmen too, if you read the more questionable lore.
It has to reduce the writing to grimderp to stop everyone from joining hands and singing kumbaya, especially when it's another galaxy ending black crusade or tyranid threat. 99% of the eldar's problems with the imperium are them being retarded, 99% of getting an ork to work with the Imperium is saying "Look, enemy here, big fight, go krump, here have big hat as gift", and so on and so forth.

Fantasy gives 101 reasons for any faction to... stay where they are and only interact when it wants to deathwar another faction. The only exceptions are the various human and dwarf factions don't mind being neighbours to each other, but even that has the exceptions of Tilea always having two cities fighting one another and Bretonnia licking its lips and thinking of invading Araby again.
There is no reason for a wood elf to leave the forest.
There is no reason for a high elf to leave circle land.
There is no reason for a dark elf to leave Canada land.
There is no reason for a lizard to leave Africa land.
There is no reason for the undead to leave Transylvania land and Egypt land.
There is no reason for an Imperial citizen to leave Germany land.
There is no reason for a dwarf to leave a hold and the old alliance and infrastructure projects with the manlings doesn't make sense.
There are so few reasons in the lore for ogres to not just eat their way across the empire that ogre mercenaries don't make sense.

There are squats and ogres living peacefully

If by peacefully you mean getting even less rights than common soldier everywhere except hive cities like Necromunda. Especially funny how you also mention Beastmen, when they're the poster child of being persecuted for existing and being meatshields.

There is no reason for a wood elf to leave the forest

Correct, they're explicitly an isolationist faction.

There is no reason for a high elf to leave circle land

Wrong, since there high elfs slowly started to work on diplomacy again. Not only Teclis, but Finubar also. They're slow and arrogant about other races, but if end times didn't happen more and more of them would consider to do that. Not to mention, some Emporium cities have elf quarters, especially Marienburg.

There is no reason for a dark elf to leave Canada

You are either baiting or outright dumb with this take. I refuse to elaborate on something this obvious.

There is no reason for a lizard to leave Africa

Yes, you're really baiting me, I'm leaving.

same, for all its flaws it managed to bring WFB to life
Fantasy literally has two games: Total War and Vermintide.

if there is one thing more generic than fantasy...

its 40k

There is so much wrong with this post that it would require an ungodly wall of text to deboonk it all

Anon, 40K gives 101 reasons for any faction to side with the Imperium.

No? They are a hyper autistic, xenocidial faction

99% of the eldar's problems with the imperium are them being retarded

The imperium being retarded is literally the point of it being a decaying carcass

There is no reason for a wood elf to leave the forest.

You travel the worldroots to prevent other factions to fuck with them

There is no reason for a high elf to leave circle land.

You are literally are maritime superpower and trade nation, as well as self proclaimed world police

There is no reason for a dark elf to leave Canada land.

The entire nation runs on conquering Ulthuan and getting slaves via raids in foreign lands

There is no reason for a lizard to leave Africa land.

The entire faction runs on enacting the old ones plan, no matter how or where

There is no reason for the undead to leave Transylvania land and Egypt land.

Tomb kings go to foreign land to reclaim stolen loot, Vampires want to rule over the cattle in other places

There is no reason for an Imperial citizen to leave Germany land.

Trade, explore, adventure, plunder riches

There is no reason for a dwarf to leave a hold

Settle grudge, adventure and explore, plunder riches, fullfill slayer oaths
Are you just shitposting or do you really have no idea about the setting?

Holy fuck, expand your vocabulary, you meme spewing retard

fantasyfags seething lmao

NEVER EVER

needs more sexy elves

Human men will see THIS and think "hell yeah"

elves are taller than humans

i dont see the issue

death by snu snu is based though

you wouldn't get no snu snu
Witch Elves would slaughter you in the bloodiest way for Khaine
Wardancers would take you to the woods fatten you up and have the forest monsters eat you

Yes

Nu uh, they would fall in love with me

Drycha > elf harlots
elf genocide now

>There is no reason for a lizard to leave Africa

Yes, you're really baiting me, I'm leaving.

>There is no reason for a lizard to leave Africa land.

The entire faction runs on enacting the old ones plan, no matter how or where

don't lizardmen only leave lustria whenever one player has a lizardman army and the other one asks if they can say they're not fighting in lustria?
I've read a lot of the books and it really does feel like the lore is paper thin once you leave the empire, especially for side factions like lizardmen

mayflies are retarded

I want Total War: Of Might and Magic and none of you can convince me otherwise.

Lizardmen are direct servants of the Old Ones, but only the 1st Generation knew the actual plan, the only one around is Kroak and he's a mummy
so the living Slaan are almost all asleep trying to interpret the Great Plan while the Lizardmen just go day to day
the only exceptions being Mazdamundi that mostly defends the northern border of Lustria and Tehenhauin that showed up to kill rats
there's a lot of lore for every faction if you take all pieces

I know which leader I'm picking first

I enjoy both