Why didn't you help them save vidya?

help keep games as a service products alive!

... no. let them die and give people reasons to stop spending money on them

Has the ferret raping roach even finished his game yet?

Yeah? He's finished Champions of Breakfast years ago and he just updated Heartbound a couple of days ago. Not to fucking mention he's doing this while working and updating Blockgame and being one of the most successful streamers ever...

Methinks your concerned trolling attempts are founded in jealousy and not in real interest for his art.

no, I don't want to own games

No.

Ukraine lost.

still surprised this drama got completely swept under the rug. shouldve killed pirate's career entirely desu

ross is going to become completely mindbroken by this shit and never make an asylum video again

He doesn't, he feels like a contrarian by heart but can't actually say contrarian shit or get cancelled so he just looks at chat and says in a McCool guy voice the oposite of what those 9 year olds are saying to stroke his ego.

Didn't he lose a ton of subs afterwards?

No clue how this got swept under the rug but people have been making fun of him for the WoW raid shit like that means anything

I did help. I signed the UK petition and the government said "we have no plans to change the current consumer laws". That's all that would happen if the EU petition reached the threshold too I imagine.

fuck off. pirate is the john carmack of our times

Yes, I don't want to own or even play always online crap. Let it die.

Who's the fag in the middle and why should I care

... no. let them die and give people reasons to stop spending money on them

Plenty have died, and people still spend money on them.

kill all games as a service cancer

that means you don't want to own video games

He could've saved the raid anon...

Why didn't you help them save vidya?

Because I didn't want to kill vidya by giving the government and companies more control while giving up my ability to exploit the legally grey area of gaming

He keeps redredging it up to save his sinking ship

Nobody cares about this wannabe dev's opinion now or back then

Then why did everybody listen to his advice and not sign Mossman's idiotic petition(that would kill the gaming industry forever)?

Leading with live service Ubislop was a terrible idea. Like a "live service" eventually ends up a "dead service" dummy. It's part of the genre.

There are so many great games you just can't buy anymore (even if we limited this to racing) and I think any of those would have been a stronger opener than their weird ass "force live services to live forever" thing they are attempting here.

Anything vaguely associate with asmongolsd gets a nope from me

daily reminder that the best case scenario here is (You)r favorite live service slop getting sold off to some chink company that will squeeze every penny out of it with 87 gorillion freemium currencies

damn update is looking good

still surprised this drama got completely swept under the rug

He's the biggest nepobaby plant possible probably managed by one of the biggest talent agencies, and it should be no surprise at all that it or the umpteenth lies about him and the FBI saving Defcon or countless other obvious falsehoods amount to nothing

This drama here really did prove that Anon Babble are corporate stooges yet they act like edgy rebel types

word, xister~

I don't even know what PirateSoftware did, I just ended up on a Dr K episode with him on it and the comments were full of angry 10,000 word essays about him and his career.
Where the fuck does your life go wrong that you pay this much attention to a dude on a screen?
Maybe I'm just old.

You earned a Anon Babble badge!
"gone fishing: post bait for the first time"
See all your badges on the "my profile" page, including "Anon Babble hacker: set up 2 factor", "look ma I'm on TV: first post" and "make some noise!: first post with 5 (you)'s"

People shouldn't buy games that can be shut down and taken away from you.

But you're a dumb faggot if you think we should get the government involved in what kind of game someone can make. Grow up you nanny state pussies.

That's not a newfag. Newfags are all SEAmonkeys who wouldn't have even heard of John Romero let alone John Carmack

There's nothing trannies love more than talking about e-drama, maybe Anon Babble is more your speed

Ok but what if 90% of all multiplayer games coming out today don't have standalone server support

Maybe you should've actually learned what the initiative was pushing for. It demandes that devs stop scamming people with predatory live service shit by making it so people are actually able to play singleplayer or make their own servers if the game gets shut down.
Your arguments are along the lines of "why should we improve the fire safety in our neighbourhood, I don't go to bed with a lit cigarette in my mouth"

civvie11 talks about him all the time

People shouldn't own slaves.

But you're a dumb faggot if you think we should get the government involved in what kind of things people can own. Grow up you nanny state pussies.

Why did he ban "m" ?

Pirate is a massive faggot who is a grown up version of "My Dad Works At Nintendo."

Fuck that fucking liar.

I haven't read into any of this shit but surely what people are pushing for is for companies to release their server software at EoL of the product so enthusiasts can at least continue to run their own private servers. Obviously you can't expect a company to keep game servers for ancient stuff alive indefinitely that would be retarded.

you tell em, girldick queen~~ ;D

my children's toys are equivalent to a human being's life

Simply stop caring. Go and play a video game.

T-Thanks uwu

I haven't read into any of this shit but surely what people are pushing for is for companies to release their server software at EoL of the product so enthusiasts can at least continue to run their own private servers

That's one of the two options.
The other is putting expiry dates on games.

NOOOOO I DONT WANT TO USE THE GOVERNMENT TO STAND UP AGAINST CORPORATIONS (WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY FOR 99.9% OF PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET TO STAND UP AGAINST CORPORATIONS BTW) I WANT TO KEEP SUCKING CORPO COCK THANK YOU UBISOFT SIRS

You retards have the same dogshit arguments that have been rebuked since the start of these threads.

Also I cant wait for jannies to kill this thread like they do with all other SKG threads, even though it's literally about gaming.

I cannot wait for the pedo allegations to drop

I would suggest not buying them.

Live service shit shouldn't exist to begin with. Make a petition to ban it from being made to begin with or I'm not interested.

the best videogames ever made - Max Payne 1, Duke Nukem 3D and NFS Porsche Unleashed - are safe forever so I'm fine with games being killed

Ok then next year it's 95%

I have a solution for next year too. Can you guess what it is?

Most people in these threads don't have actual opinions anon, they just spout the opposite of what most people in either an attempt to look smart or to get a reaction out of people, don't waste your intelligence trying to talk with brick walls

It demandes that devs stop scamming people with predatory live service shit

Maybe you should have actually learned what the initiative was pushing for because it had absolutely nothing to do with live service games and more of them would have been a direct consequence of this going through.

never buy any videogames

Great and epic solution

Now type that again without crying, shill.

Do you see my mana? What am I supposed to do

Works for me and I'm still having fun.

all games are multiplayer games and rely purely on servers for multiplayer

For such a loud paypig you sure haven't played a lot of games.

watches poostreet K

Why do people pay attention to people on screens

You lack.

I watched his Symphony of the Night review and he bursts a fucking bloodvessel over a girl being only 17 ("Yuck!!").

Why even comment on this if you have zero interest in any new game ever?
Why do you care if the government regulates it or not? Why do you care if there is strong consumer law or not?

Because I don't consider video games art and neither should you. Soon as people start to realize this is fast food or syndicated TV levels of artistic merit we will all be better off. Trying to tell me Hideo Kojima or Shigeru Miyamoto are "auteurs". Get out of town. You expect me to cry about a random Ubisoft racing game? Really tho?

if you have zero interest in any new game ever?

When did I say that? Learn how to read dumbass.

Multiplayer games before like 2010 all work without a central server. The devs would release a server binary for people to host themselves.
Now, almost every multiplayer game has to phone home, and a good chunk of single player games need to phone home too.

Software should automatically become open source once the developer abandons it.

Isn't that the dogshit mageroach that molests ferrets and pretends to have a deep voice

Oh dear, another faggot reposter. Welcome Anon, petitioner of cringe.
Mind you, the killing of games interests me none.
The slop preserving curse, the legacy of chuds, let it fade into nothing.
You've been an videogame addicted manchild quite enough, now go touch grass.

Yeah, I watch him, I don't write a thesis about him with drool coming out of my mouth.

Zachariah Hoyt in pic

Who pays for hosting the source code?

almost every multiplayer game has to phone home, and a good chunk of single player games need to phone home too.

Anon, the amount of games like that, not including things like gacha, is something like 1%. It's a ridiculously small number of current releases.

m stands for merde

Ross doesn't even want to do this shit. He's said a hundred times hes only bringing it up because people are too stupid to not suck off corporate cock & defend themselves & what they pay for

Low IQ, lazy, entitled streamers realize that, in fact, most people don't care about their opinions

The next step is all the twitch zoomers growing the fuck up and stop wasting their time/money on these parasites

I'm too good to have those dirty Minecraft players. Also Fortnite players are too icky for me, I don't really want to associate with them....

Excluding two biggest gaming audience, retarded or based. Call it

Go and play video games

I can't. They killed them.

instead of doing something that might help, you should just make a petition that nobody will sign and has no legal basis whatsoever

I was going to sign but unfortunately I'm apparently "too tainted" because I play minecraft so glhf I guess.

"Don't suck corporate cock" he says while double-fisting government cock.

You paid for a live service game. You got a live service game. Don't pay for what you don't want.

please stop trying to get the government to do things for you, it's hurting our bottom li- i mean makes you a bootlicker

if i'm paying taxes either way then i might as well get something back

Bro you haven't paid taxes once in your life

Imagine being this retarded

what is assmongoloid doing there

Whelp guess I'm not needed then.
also

VIDEOGAMES

aside from income and property, if you've ever bought anything at a store you have paid taxes

the purpose of the government is specifically to protect it's citizens against predations foreign and domestic. Read Mein Kampf.

Eurobros what happened.

No you can do that.

You're indian or a SEA newfag of course no one needs you.

Not all US states have sales tax, retard.

Who the fuck watches fortnite clickbait channels as an adult?

first turn down invites because anyone right-from-staling for "not wanting to associate with that crowd"

then exclude literally 2 of the biggest gaming communities out there

wHy aRe gAyM3rS nOt Supp0Rt1Ng M3?11?

Open source code is commonly hosted on platforms like GitHub, GitLab, and SourceForge, along with other services that offer similar features. These platforms provide tools for version control, collaboration, and project management, making them ideal for hosting and managing open source projects

If companies are misrepresenting their product and saying you will have access to their service forever, that should be illegal (and is). But you are not being preyed upon by a live service game merely existing.

They might be 2 of the biggest gaming communities, but they're also 2 gaming communities whose members aren't allowed to vote yet so it'd be a wasted effort.

fpbp.

this industry should have died in 2006

unironically rather dumpstering his own initiate that associate with BR-sloppers

HOLY BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

His own audience was against him and he had to lock down his official Reddit, Discord, and delete Youtube comments until the anger eventually faded.

Most minecraft players are in their thirties thoughbert.

If you're not smart enough to understand why a law requiring someone use these privately owned services would be a problem, you're too dumb to be in this discussion.

That's never gonna happen for multiple reasons.
First off, it'd have to be PC only since running private servers for console games isn't a thing due to platform holders not wanting piracy-enabling hacks through those. Also hacked COD lobbies back on the 360 were a nightmare that nobody wants to live through again.
Second, just about every modern multiplayer game would have to be redesigned from the ground up to allow this. Everything's matchmaking now so you'd need server browsers and even just the dedicated server software to be created purely for this purpose. Modern live service game servers aren't just some single executable running on one computer, it's an entire software ecosystem.
If some form of "you're not allowed to kill live service games" legislation actually passed what would happen instead is that the final patch for the game would rip out basically all of the game and leave you with a single map to deathmatch against basic bots with no proper multiplayer or online capabilities.

Minecraft players, sure.
Minecraft Youtube content viewers I'm less sure about.

Ok but what would be an actual downside to this if this bill somehow passed?

Retards will keep their status quo regardless

Devs are less incentivized to make online-only slop due to needing to plan for EOL

Expiration dates hurt the sales of online only slop

If a one in a million online fun online game comes out - it does not get fucked if the chinks publishing it suddenly decide its not profitable enough

Really, what are the downsides? Government getting into gaming? They dont need extra laws like this to crank up shit like censorship. What else?

He's out of mana how can he be John Carmack

You are legitimately low IQ and cannot understand the most basic things.

It's okay, corpo bootlickers will never understand, it's so simple, just put it on Microsoft Github™

The downside is devs will have to put in 0.1% more effort when deciding the server architecture, instead of just dumping everything on a centralized system.

If anon, like Thor could read first would know the initiative is specifically about games that have an upfront cost. But anon nor Thor can read so

The companies are selling a product which is a service disguised as a good, which is the problem. Live service games shouldn't be handled or sold the same way that actual videogames you can keep are.

Retarded post, like, you want companies to sell their games indefinitely just because you were late? Like, pirate them retard.

Fortnite and BR games

Fair, they're fairly sloppy.

Minecraft

There's a psychological phenomenon that has developed an incredibly massive split in the entire minecraft space, and it's called modding.

I would say modded minecraft is more acceptable than playing anything resembling modern minecraft. Any mod developed for minecraft that follows political narratives like lgbt, trans, or acab should probably be excluded on the fact that it doesn't support games.

bro are you retarded or what? source code is very small, especially for servers, they can literally use anything to host it, and after a year everyone would have cloned anyway even if they stop

Leftright brainrot

Why didn't you help them save vidya?

Because pay attention to what I buy and don't expect online "service" games to last forever.

Youtubers: 30-40 years old.
Players: 20-30 years old.
Viewers: 18-25 years old.

The less severe nature of the problem doesn't make it unimportant. Like it's in a state that most of the new games come without a dedicated server software, also people will not loose interest in the game if it's "suddenly" revealed as a live service game. Your way of ignoring the problem is a retarded way of thinking that will only result in things getting worse. fencesitting lazyass fat uninspired piece of uninvolved and died alone ass.

You are dramatically underestimating the size of the source code for video games.

Twenty years ago, the Half-Life 2 source code leaked, and it was 1.5 GB, for context.

Is that the game that saves the progress by using Steam achievements, thus """fixing piracy"""?

you are legit tech illiterate anon

I thought the jaw issue was due to his teeth, but bro definitely barely has one even here.

You can't create a movement off of principle alone, most people won't care enough to support it. If you want people to support your cause, you need a much more concrete and desirable goal to work towards. What hurt Stop Killing Games was that its poster games, the games that triggered its formation, were games that no one really wanted to play in the first place.

In order for something like this to succeed, at bare minimum, it needs a game that a large enough quantity of people love that they'd want to save. This is really hard because if a game gets shut down, it's generally because it wasn't successful. So no one cares about the games this movement is trying to save.

1.5gb

Big

Third world pajeet don't know servers have petabytes of storage now also don't know the difference between source and assets

I worked on the engine for a relatively popular MMO for almost 10 years.

You think Half-Life 2 only has 1.5 GB of assets?

The point was that most Minecraft and Fortnite YouTubers specifically target young kids. Questionable morality and legality (when they don't mark their shit as targeting kids) aside, 10 year olds aren't a great target demographic for propagating a petition you need to be of a voting age to sign, so expending time and resources on collabing with those channels is possibly a waste of time.

wait until he find out the entire source code for everything open source is in """"private""" hosting sites. Even fucking linux is on github

Like, i didn't watch the whole video, but didn't he rationalize it that those minecraft youtubers he considered were mostly making content for the kids from the looks of their thumbnails and etc.? i've seen youtubers that do videos like that most of the time, making mini movies with small plots, some minigames and map showcases.
Dunno about fortnite tho. But roblox youtubers should also be excluded like minecraft ones.

Yeah but they're not required to be there by law, you dumb fuck. Jesus you are so fucking stupid.

Legislation is not flexible enough to specify what qualifies as enough content to consider the game still functional, as live service games expand and contract over time anyways.
So instead of you actually getting to play your favorite live service trash online forever with private servers what will happen is that the game will simply whimper out of existence as more and more content is removed until there's nothing left to support.
Think for example Forza Horizon 5. Microsoft has a habit of nuking the FH games from digital storefronts every few years due to only paying for very short car licenses. Legally if they're still somehow supporting it after that period they have to remove the cars they no longer have licenses to, which means they'll all have to be removed and you end up driving the only non-licensed vehicle in the entire game which is the Halo warthog.
Same with music licenses. Real-life location licenses. Brand collaborations. There's gonna be fuck all game left once all of that shit is gone.

you have to be over 18 to post here bro, its really not that hard my friend

law: you have to make the source code available to the public

how the company does it its their call, if they want to use github, internet archive, their own servers doesn't matter. Stop being an absolute retard

More than likely, I guess I was getting too specific on how targeting certain pockets of demographics is more effective as time waster than an actual help.

Yeah, that's how laws work. "Hey man, it's your call, we're not gonna be prescriptive here, just wing it homie. You do you."

why I should be against this? like what do I lose if whatever this is wins?

Yeah, wouldn't want to get associated with anyone like that, now would we?

the retard really is a kid, lmao. Who in their right mind compare fucking medicine law with code, holy shit

If they don't update and sell it, what's the problem? I think there were some singleplayer games that were rereleased with cut music, but original game on steam still had them. I vaguely remember this being the case for mafia 2, but i could be wrong.

developer opens a webserver unannounced at 4am EST, keeps it up for 5 minutes, shuts it down

All good, we're in compliance

To be honest, I don't give a fuck if some soulless corporate garbage goes offline for any reason. Spending time and energy on these things is stupid.
The right fight that everyone should be engaged in is to make corporations admit that digital games are products, so the license to use them, once sold, is no longer under the power of the corporation that sold it. That's all we need. Have you bought a digital game? That license is yours and no one can revoke it.
Consumers should pressure governments and corporations to admit this reality.

every law has a default time stipulation, if it's something completely new the law itself say the time needed, but I guess you are a brainlet and don't know that

associated

nigga read other replies first at least, it's not about association but about kids being unable to vote, meaning waste of time and money.

GTA does that to this day

i wonder how many reaction faces we can add trough edits

fippy bippy. kill yourself OP.

Didn't this shit start over The Crew? If you're going to exclude Minecraft and Fortnite, why should anyone give a shit about The Crew?

You're right, I didn't think up the "release the source code somehow, I don't know how exactly just do it" law, I must be a brainlet.

The right fight that everyone should be engaged in is to make corporations admit that digital games are products

They already do you fucking moron.

If updating the game in order to keep it functional, for example due to software bugs related to newer operating system versions or time related bugs, isn't mandatory then all of a sudden every live service game will simply ship with some craptastic buggy code that conveniently stops working mere hours after the EOL date. Oops, looks like you're not getting that eternal support after all.

Sorry, but it looks like if the game detects your save file was made after 2028 the game simply crashes on launch. Nothing we can do about that now!

go read up public domain law nigga. Do you really think every single law on earth specify the minute detail? you are in for a rude awakening, that's the entire reason judges and lawyers exist, because laws don't specify shit

He's the only reason anyone discusses this, no one would care and the whole movement would be dead already if he didn't pretend to be retarded.

redefining what a digital sale is kinda needed (because i get it that reselling digital copies of the game can be abused and etc.) but i don't understand what your suggestion will achieve in the end, i don't remember that many time publishers revoking access to the game, closing the server isn't revoking access technically (even if it is that practically). Recent sony discovery something debacle was reverted.

HMMMM CORPO COCK TASTY YES COPRO DELETE THE OLD GAME AND REPACKAGE THE KUSOGE IN A REMAKE AND SELL IT TO ME AGAIN, GO HARD ON ME CORPO

I don't give a flying fuck about not being able to play ubislop after 5 years.

Public domain law does not require that the IP rights holder do anything their work enters the public domain. Maybe you should go read up on it you dumb faggot.

predatory live service shit

is there a single game worth playing that does this? What are we actually trying to save here? I don't play live service games so I don't know.

did you read the law? you clearly didn't, go read it up and you will see what I am talking about, unless your IQ is so low you are not even capable

youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE

eternal support

man, fuck you, really.
that's something that ross said publisher shouldn't be required to do and it's not what the campaign is after. People already patch these sort of bugs games, it can be hex edited, fixed by editing some text file, or fixed with proton/windows compatibility mode.
The whole point is that it's possible to patch those kind of things, but it's almost impossible to recreate server software for a live service game.

Just go watch one of the first stop killing games ross video.

Go ahead and cite what part of the law you think is applicable to this situation, then. I'll wait.

Gta is still getting sold tho, like i think they still sell classic gta trilogy on their launcher. Or sold it not too long ago.

The solution is so fucking simple
Stop playing modern AAA shit stop playing always online multiplayer slop this is like an addict blaming everyone around him that he cant stop shooting heroin the only way this affects you is if you play Ubisoft garbage why the fuck are you doing that?

low t faggot use voice changer and gets called out.

Oh you see I had a second puberty at 30

simple

yeah it's simple to convince 7 billion people to vote with their wallet. Just do it brah.

Kill games. Kill developers. Kill gamers.
End gaming, what a useless activity.

I want corporations to admit that the license, once sold, cannot be revoked. That's all. EVERY store (Nintendo eshop, Microsoft store, Epic, Steam, GOG, PSN, etc.) says in no uncertain terms: "the license can be revoked at any time for any reason". I want governments to make it clear that this is illegal, and for all corporations to start removing this from EULAs. Digital games are products, so when they are sold, ownership passes to the buyer. Yes, the buyer doesn't have the right to the intellectual property, but he does have the right to run that copy, and in a digital product, the copy is identified by the license number.
Being able to sell the game is another matter. The most important thing now is to have actual ownership of the game. And for that, it is enough that the license, once sold, cannot be revoked.

Companies can't host the server source code because it will cost them money.

So how does open source projects with 0 budged do it?

D-Doesn't count chud.

This thread is very funny to read.

You have to understand, this whole campaign wasn't about giving more rights to the people, it was about convincing the people that they have absolutely zero power to influence and generally demoralise people.

I paid money for live service slop knowing I was paying money for live service slop and now it's 10 years later and I can't play my slop anymore

please government, save me from myself, we need more laws, where were the bumpers to stop me from rolling this gutterball?

wrong thread?

reminder that pirat livestreamed his therapy session with Dr K, and the doc literally told him, in specific details, that pirat behaves like a subhuman sociopath, and that he was having trouble not lashing out at him because of how obnoxious pirat acts.
and pirat is like "nah i dont think so"

buy car

company releases new car

send an update to brick your car forcing you to buy a new one

yes, shove right up my ass corpo, just how I like it

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF VIDEO GAMES, NO MATTER WHAT POTENTIAL HELP THEY COULD OFFER

If you actually believe this, then abolish copyright law. You truly believe in the free market, so get rid of the government granted monopoly on data.

After all, you said all govrnment is bad. So let's get rid of their laws.

You're equating a live service game to a physical product like a car and you expect anyone to take your arguments seriously about anything?

Get real, pussy.

eula means shit as i heard, but there should be a mass revoke of the digital goods in the first place, and a court/trial (whatever the word) afterward to ever do something about that.

look at all these obviously live service games

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at1k7qIo5dgPp6K1aCrYIyAgNOjY-IhF/edit?gid=1774166863#gid=1774166863

nta but weak jaws or very narrow mouths such as asmong's are mostly due to poor childhood diet and not eating solid food, he probably grew up on literal slop which made him skinny and made his jaw so narrow and weak and receded chin because he rarely if ever ate solid food in his childhood and while growing up, I've known several kids in my youth who had similar problems and they were always skinny and underfed.

it can be hex edited, fixed by editing some text file

Good luck dealing with anti-tamper protections and signature checks.
You're also assuming that it would even be possible for consumers to run the server software. How are you gonna run the servers for Microsoft Flight Simulator which streams terabytes of map data from the cloud? How would you run servers that run on proprietary hardware or require specific software configurations only available on third party cloud hosts? Many servers run on AWS or Azure and rely heavily on the built-in capabilities exclusive to those, it's not just some Windows executable you can double click to run.

Who are these ugly retards?

Sounds good to me. I don't know why you think that is a gotcha.

Dont look up Maldavius Figtree

they are both "products", digital or not
also games before didn't die because of end of service, they had fucking dedicated servers, or lan support or some other shit.

He's referencing Piratesoftware

The downside is that it would make other people happy and it would own the people who are putting effort into something

Hey, a non-contradictory post for a change. Good to hear. The rest of these schmucks constantly argue that government regulation is bad, while dicksucking disney having a 150 year stranglehold on IPs.

It did make it to the UK government and they shot it down barely even acknowledging anything about it, that kinda poured cold water on the entire thing

If you actually believe this, then abolish copyright law

False equivalence.
Copyright law isn't the government exerting control on something, it's the government saying that you can legally own an idea. The onus is on you as the owner to use it, defend it, etc.

If you don't get it then it's the difference between going to the store, buying something and having no one telling you what you can do with it and going to the store, buying something and having use of it being heavily regulated or you could be fined or arrested because it's illegal to make anything other than a sandwich with your bread.

How would you run servers that run on PROPRIETARY HARDWARE or require specific software configurations only available on third party cloud hosts?

Many servers run on AWS or Azure

Come on, retard.
Also, that says NOTHING about just exposing how your server talks to your client. You don't have to disclose anything else or provide any further information about how you achieved it. The movement cites that as a viable solution.

It did make it to the UK government and they shot it down barely even acknowledging anything about it, that kinda poured cold water on the entire thing

No shit. There's a war in eastern europe, the climate crisis is getting worse, there's refugees in Gaza that need to be resettled, there are starving kids in Africa, and everyone's jobs are at risk from being taken over by AI and Ross wants everyone to DROP WORK ON FIXING ACTUAL PROBLEMS and instead cry and weep with him that a 10 year old ubislop racing game got shut down and that the government needs to force a nearly bankrupt french company into updating and turning back on the servers? Either Ross is ignorant or he's possibly one of the most evil and selfish people on the planet. Not Hitler bad, but definitely in the evil range of Stalin or Mao.

I know this is an unpopular stance among you faggots but I actually like games and I don't want them to be shut down forever with no means of preservation (yes even shitty ones, fuck you)
If you are not on the side of SKG then you are on the side of faggot publishers like ubisoft who want to shut down games and you are basically indian

because he worked at blizzard

Copyright law isn't the government exerting control on something, it's the government saying that you can legally own an idea.

How do you legally "own an idea"? That's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. That kind of nonsense is how companies can patent basic gameplay concepts, and then keep them locked up forever, and good luck fighting them in court because they can just drain you dry of resources. I'd rather have no copyright law than that crap.

If you don't get it then it's the difference between going to the store, buying something and having no one telling you what you can do with it and going to the store, buying something and having use of it being heavily regulated or you could be fined or arrested because it's illegal to make anything other than a sandwich with your bread.

But copyright law literally enforces the latter. You can't even break open games with encryption, even for personal use, because it's "illegal". You can't listen to music on youtube or even post clips from movies, even if it's under fair use, because companies can just repeatedly copyright strike you and destroy your channel.

(you)

but I actually like games and I don't want them to be shut down forever with no means of preservation

Which is why you shouldn't support SKG

The government caused all those problems. It's not our job to care.

A lot of the super convenient things involving tech only exist because EU regulation

the climate crisis is getting worse

everyone's jobs are at risk from being taken over by AI

He's as bad as Stalin, but Stalin is less bad than le hitler

Can it commienigger.

this is the man that was front and center for your "movement"

It was never going anywhere with this sperg at the helm.

You are describing assmold (ghoul on the right) but with glasses

Just knowing the full specs of the client-server protocol tells you fuck all because it'd expose none of the server-side code, which depending on the game can be very extensive and do basically all of the heavy lifting involved.

you're right I should just let things continue as they are and watch games continue to get shut down forever you fucking retard that's much better

literal who, narc grifter, and far-right political streamer

on Anon Babble

this place really went to shit

why do people get cease and desist letters for reverse engineering, emulation, etc

That's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard.

That's because you don't have ideas and as such you won't be able to see it from the viewpoint of a creator, you can only view it as someone who's ignorant. Case in point:

That kind of nonsense is how companies can patent basic gameplay concepts,

You can't patent concepts let alone basic ones. Patents are for functions and design, if you patent an oval toy that makes lights and sounds when you press a button someone could patent a circular toy with three buttons that make lights and sounds when you press them.
That's how that works.

I'd rather have no copyright law than that crap.

No shit, that would allow you to take a game and resell it for yourself at a hideous mark up. Having zero protection only benefits leeches such as yourself who can't contribute.

But copyright law literally enforces the latter.

Okay?
Any reason you haven't said how? Because I don't see the government telling me I can't write my short novels.

You didnt let us join EU so I couldnt sign anything.

Great idea for a law, guys. I would also like for there to be a law that people with my initials receive a free blowjob from a nurse once per year when I otherwise get a checkup.
It’s feasible to implement (there can’t be more than 100k people with my initials in my country), the government would pay these nurses who’d do it consensually. So what’s the problem? Let’s implement this law.

The onus is on you as the owner to use it, defend it, etc.

That's why.
You're not getting a C&D from the government, you're getting one from the owner.
Also none of those were ever C&D'd. The only company to ever try was Sony and they were destroyed in court which defeats your argument.

ok then why do people follow the C&D
why not just ignore it

Because the owner, not the government, can sue you if you don't comply.

That's a pretty smart idea if you're stupid

You can't patent concepts let alone basic ones

The three video game patents that immediately spring to mind are

Mass Effect dialogue wheel

Loading screen minigames seen in old Namco games

The arrow that points where you're supposed to go in Crazy Taxi

All of them fairly well known as being pretty damn good concepts that never show up in other games because of patents. The loading screen minigame one recently expired just in time for games to no longer have loading screens.

sue

why can't i just ignore that

I don't think people should be forced to work against their will because some greedy youtuber couldn't make an hour long video essay about a gay videogame. I'm the opposite of a commie.

That's because you don't have ideas and as such you won't be able to see it from the viewpoint of a creator,

If a creator needs the government to strongarm people into not using his idea, he deserves to have it taken from him.

You can't patent concepts let alone basic ones

Try telling that to the nemesis system, or Crazy Taxi's arrow, or Pokemon's "summon monster to fight for you" mechanic. It doesn't matter how vague it is, if you have money you can declare it yours and drain people of their finances fighting it. Need I remind you of a judge that unanimously gave Pacman the rights to the "maze adventure genre" even if other games made vast differences to change it up?

No shit, that would allow you to take a game and resell it for yourself at a hideous mark up.

but who would buy it at a hideous markup? I'd have to prove that my version is better than the original.

Because I don't see the government telling me I can't write my short novels.

Nintendo quite literally helps the government pass laws on IP rights. So you can very well be sued by them if you write fanfiction about Mario. Disney can demolish orphanages that have pictures of Mickey Mouse on them FFS.

I, for one, hate thought police in all forms, beit porky, commutard, semitic, or otherwise.

yeah man we should just catch that grind 24/7 with no room for relaxing like a true alpha sigma chad amirite?

kys fag.

hes a few whiskers away from being a real life "ratboy"

What did jews ever do to you?!

>Mass Effect dialogue wheel

Which didn't stop games having dialogue options, fallout 4 even has a similar style

>Loading screen minigames seen in old Namco games

Bandai had several games with loading screen minigames before they acquired Namco. Pretty sure Nintendo had a similar thing going with splatoon while waiting for a lobby to fill up.

>The arrow that points where you're supposed to go in Crazy Taxi

I don't need to bother listing the amount of games and methods of showing you where to go in a car because there are so many like arrows on the ground or simulated GPS.

All of them fairly well known as being pretty damn good concepts that never show up in other games because of patents.

Again, this is just you being ignorant and just flat out retarded too.
Let's look at the crazy taxi arrow for instance, you think the concept is the arrow on the top of the screen but no, the concept is showing the player where to go while driving a vehicle. Conceptually there's no difference between a GPS and the arrow because they serve the same purpose.

That's the problem, all the patents are incredibly vague, and they can sue anyone they want if they feel like they're infringing. It's basically a mob ring that lets bigger players oppress smaller players. Look at Pokemon versus Palworld. Palworld isn't as big as Nintendo, so the big N can just shove in a bunch of patent laws and shut them down.

you can't
Also corporate actic is not to win but to leave their opponent penniless.

What if im under an alias online and not in their jurisdiction country?
Who will they send a subpoena to? xX_KyleHiggers_Xx?

Just knowing the full specs of the client-server protocol tells you fuck all because it'd expose none of the server-side code

1. Still better than killing the game outright with no information
2. People have reversed engineered with less because it's not that fucking hard

they have ninjas for that, man

it is hard.
only fan made patches can be described as "not that hard" because people have game data on their hand.

I want videogame to die so we can finally wake up

I only recognize one of these people

Well, sucks to be the unfortunate Kyle on the other side of the world from me then.

Kill yourself, subhuman shitskin.

Videogames need to die so Asmongold dies too

You're assuming anyone would actually bother to do anything with that information.
Just look at all the games out there with leaked or open sourced source code that nobody did literally anything with.
Where are my perfect fan-made PC ports of N3 Ninety Nine Nights and The Misadventures of Tron Bonne?

Anon Babble constantly complains about the gaming industry being a rotting corpse

also half of Anon Babble whenever someone actually tries to do something about it: "NOOOOOOOO!!!!! YOU CAN'T STAND UP TO THESE CORPORATIONS I HATE AND CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT BECAUSE........YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY!"

the other half of Anon Babble: "heh this will never work and I want things to get worse because that means that if it gets worse everything will eventually have to get better!"

>Acceleration never worked. If anything if we reach the bottom of the barrel, everything will just go through the floor and there will be a new standard of awful.

why are 4chinners so retarded?

Every time you suggest a quality feature that costs relative pennies to implement an investor has to piss out another kidney stone.

That sums up Pirate Gaming about right.
The worst of the worst in terms of saying lukewarm takes but in a learned deep voice to sound knowledgeable (and sniffing his own farts so he actually believes he's some 200 IQ god nerd) while flexing working at Blizzard (imagine getting a nepo job and it's just fucking QA at a games company) and any actual takes you make on stream are pants-on-head retarded. Apparently he got popular via YT Shorts "explaining" things.

and not in their jurisdiction country?

That's not how it works. Copyright is global, patents are regional and trademarks are by registered service.
Basically you're fucked with copyright, it's like going in to someone's home, taking their things and getting shot. You can get platforms for distribution absolutely fucked like that like what happened to Megaupload back in the day and now they're all way more strict.
With patents if you own the same patent in another region like say, you patented your method of sucking cock in uraguay and your dad stole it and patented it in America you couldn't do shit.
Trademarks are global but only in the sector you register them for, like say, if you trademarked

Anon's cocklicks

For a door to door faggot service or something and your dad from earlier used that for retail like a store then he wouldn't be violating your trademark because it's for something else you didn't register for.

Anyway, to answer your question, they would eventually follow the paper trail and find you but in the event that they couldn't they would just exert their right to take down your shit over and over and eventually it'd probably get automated.

why are 4chinners so retarded?

Because if you hadn't noticed most of Anon Babble are corporate marketers. That's why they were pushing SKG while saying bullshit like paying with your wallet doesn't work like we aren't seeing tons of games flop lately.

Because Night Media pays YouTube to push him everywhere.

and exactly what part of this is going to stop

overinflated budgets

needlessly massive dev teams

obsession with gwafix (absolutely zero optimization)

obsession with realism

obsession with mainstream celebrities

obsession with mimicking Hollywood

general feature creep

aggressive monetization

pre-pre-order bonuses

developer ego (hurr durr le astronauts weren't le bored)

or the other myriad actual problems in the industry beyond "I signed up for a live service game that is now no longer live, how could this happen to me"

live service sloppers deserve to suffer
if you fucking idiots stopped buying GAAS trash they would stop making it, solving this whole "issue"

Corporations deserve to suffer more.

tranime poster

absolute retard

The ones making these games are funded by those that own the money printer. Your own taxes fund all of it and you are too retarded to understand it.

As much as I want to say all corporations are evil, this is an entertainment sector, not food or something like that.
Corporations in this sector live, die and adapt based on the whims of the consumer if you cunts had any ounce of restraint and didn't fall for hype culture every single fucking time and actually read what you were buying you wouldn't be in this mess.
And yes, that's you, I don't buy shitty games with drm that can kill my game. I'm content with them dying.

I did...

unironically this movement could permanently damage the creation of new GaaS forever.

You're calling others idiots yet are completely ignorant of the whale principle already disproves your delusions.

They used their vile sorcery to turn me into a nazi, by repeatedly chanting the word "nazi" at me.

I didn't say it was going to stop but this is one thing that makes it more tolerable. If you actually want that shit to stop then game companies would have to be changed on a corporate level which would have to be done through either aggressive government intervention or some other threat that would actually make corporations shit themselves.
voting with your wallet never works

if it doesn't solve everything at once it's shit and should burn and die

falling for shills

falling for bait

"Anon Babble is one person"

Lurk moar.

B-but I was merely PRETENDING to be retarded!

you are naive if you think a majority of 4chinners aren't consoomers

if it doesn't fix actual problems it's a waste of time, yes
the house is on fire and you're upset your dinner's going to waste

paper trail

How far can it go, assuming i have set up a separate account for the project?
I assume they could use the adtrackers and other infobroker data to try and drag me to court, right?
And still fail until the peace talks succeed and they regain their presence here to sue lmao

Honest answer? I've been rooting for a second crash for years. The worse things get, the closer we get. We need to hit rock bottom before we can receive a hard reset.

People like to say that morale doesn't matter, until someone snaps and stabs you because they didn't want to break a dollar over 2 cents.

It's a narrative driven game retard, not fortnite it's artistic value isn't in number but in the way it touches you.

hehe I'm named pirate software

DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE STEAL MY GAMES

Also um no buying licenses to play a game and not own it is good actually

biggest fucking joke

Copyright law isn't the government exerting control on something

Who enforced copyright law?

DUDE MAKE GAMES LMAO

Hasn't been able to finish an Undertale ripoff in almost a decade

What's his problem?

did you know you can just MAKE GAMES?

just do it

you can totally do it

just don't fall down the trap of making reaction videos and adopting a hundred ferrets

oh don't mind the oil fire, someone lit the curtains

if you don't dunk the entire house in water at the same time I'm not doing anything

how did my house burn down

Should I exclude the fanbases who would benefit the most from my stance?

I even think the way he words his stance is fucking retarded but this is just really silly.

tries to make game

gets sidetracked with bullshit

lack of competence in coding or game design in general turns the project into a broken mess

feature creep sets in

game never releases and when it does it is a far cry from the original vision

every time

The AAA machine has been steadily heading there for a good 10 years. We're already reaping some of the rewards. Bioware and Bungie are eating shit right now. Shame people gobbled up the Oblivion remaster or Bethesda might be in a similar place.

i signed it

how would a bunch of children who are just given ipads to shut up instead of being parented benefit his goals?

benefit the most

the two games that are not in danger of shutting down in even a decade

you have only so many places to reach out, you can't push everywhere.

oh the house is on fire

let me make sure I turn the lights off before I leave

Nigga looks like Randy Stair in that pic.

NTA but you are clearly a retarded groupie chocking on Mossman's cock at the moment.
There is a higher likelihood that the entire AAA industry crashes and with it the GaaS model before this results on fucking anything.

Marathon and Fairgame$ will die before this guy gets anything done for too many reason.
One being that the EU and Britbongland are more preoccupied with the U.S. to care if you cannot play Ubislop Title #120.

Now go on a fit of rage because I offended your god, cocksucker.
Dance for me, monkey boy.

Microsoft.

Don't make me side with the unwashed hobo.
Alright...
Hey kids, see those games that are GaaS that are massively successful and you love so very much? Wouldn't it be neat if we had a way to make sure they went on forever? Now go on and tell your parents about Ross Mossman Proposition H.

Fortnite is really the biggest case you could make for something like this.
Again, I like Ross but he is a huge dumbass.

hey mom one of the youtubers I watched said they should stop killing games

that's nice sweetie did you finish your homework

It's better to push towards older communities.