Why is storage so expensive

considering the lifespan of these pieces of shit things if you actually use them it's simply not worth it at all

nothing is "expensive" in a vacuum, at least not in a free market economy.
You're just mad that you personally consider something you value to be a burden to purchase.
Pro tip: when you get that feeling, don't buy it. That's financial responsibility calling you.

inb4 but I want it

Your problem is you're not correctly allocating video games that you can't afford into the same category as other things you can't afford. You feel you're almost entitled to them at a """fair""" price. The reality is you don't set the price, the market does.
Pic related has been grizzling entitled retards and communists alike for thousands of years, not because it's evil, or predatory, or corrupt, but because it works, and ironically because it is in fact fair.

tl;dr get this through your skull: you are not entitled to luxury goods at a price that you find comfortable for your means. You don't have a human right to a Nintendo Switch 2, a 9070 XT, or a fucking Taylor Swift Concert.

Ok but why is food, water, and shelter considered 'luxurt goods' then?

Look at the size of that thing. 1Tb compacted into the size of a nickel. Sometimes I wonder if there are nothing but retards on this board.

Like think about it bro. The process of making such tiny shit is expensive and the equipment needed for it cost trillions. The smaller the more precision needed and thus more expensive to make.

Why don't they just add a 1TB and add a NvME/M.2 support?

NvME isn't very expensive to put into your console desu

broad base supply of money in an economy is subject to the laws of supply and demand too

It DOES sound quite Impressive if you put it that way

microSD express is more than double the price of normal microSD cards

parents are all gonna buy normal microSD cards and their kids are gonna freak out cause they don't work

Devious work, Nintendo.

Switch 2 requires the new SD Express format that is twice as expensive, for no fucking reason because old SD cards work just fine on Steam Deck and literally everything else

200 for a terabyte that small is pretty fucking cheap

I don't have a computer and have a 500GB sd card in my phone with everything I care about on it
Should I be concerned?

qrd

Regular microSD won't work on Switch 2, you have to use microSD Express

Wait til the prices go up 54%

You don't understand, I NEED to see Mario 0.7 seconds faster or I will DIE.

I make 40 thousand a year in Westchester New York, one of the highest taxed counties in the world, and I can afford all of those.

What happened to these?

shop.sandisk.com/en-ca/products/memory-cards/microsd-cards/sandisk-microsd-express-memory-card?sku=SDSQXFN-128G-GN4NN

Its for the faster speeds that regular sd cards dont have. Its a good thing that nintendo is pushing this, everyone else will adapt it too.

wrong. donald trump is in power, therefore literally everything is horrendously expensive. But only since the day he took office, all the years before that nothing was ever wrong and we literally lived in a utopia where unicorns helped abandoned kittens find their forever home. i know, CNN told me this

Nintenfags will pay hyper inflated prices for anything because they're children who have no concept of value.

You need to use them because the Switch 2 has 256gb of internal storage and for some reason doesn't allow internal ssds like the Steam Deck.

Don't know why it's so expensive for you. I bought a fast 2TB SSD for my PC for 130.

What are you even mad about?
Either you can't afford it or you don't want it.

No one cares for sneed deck, Switch2 is a next gen system with next gen tech

we would be stuck on fucking vacuum tubes

God I wish. My stereo would be kino

Literally no reason for your toy console to require microSD when things in the same form factor like Steamdeck can take m.2 drives which are much cheaper / have more space for the same price. Fucking retard.

They don't even sell 1tb cards or sd express cards here, Nintendo is going to btfo the market

Remember a guy at school had a 1gb usb and it cost £60+ and was massive. It was amazing though. Everyone else had like 128mb ones

SD Express is literally an NVMe SSD packaged into an SD card, that's why they're so expensive.

SD Express costs more to make.

On the flipside it's around 9 times as fast as normal Micro SD, so your load times will be a fraction of what they were.

These are pretty much ssd's though, they connect with Pcie nvme.

This. Climate change didn’t exist until Trump was inaugurated

Christ, you're an idiot.

It was a UMD.

Just learned about these and its pretty impressive. Hopefully more manufactures support it.

Unless you are a Xbox user

oh shit, really? maybe based in such a form factor

i buy sandisk, is that okay?

and like microsd cards, they fail just as fast, are extremely prone to corruption errors and overheat making your 60+€ wimpy 250gb sd card a paperweight for ants

It's about to be 150$ soon probably

I think it's just these new models. Gotta buy a new one.

maybe i should have went for 256 instead of 512 gb since i don't know how many games left i'll download digitally unless there's dlc.

wait so you're saying, under its previous term...

Because Nintendo can get away with having 256GB internal storage for a $450 console in 20 fucking 25 where 1TB is standard. I'm interested to see how much junk data they'll throw in games to inflate the file size and sell more SD cards.

I think more space would be good, but Switch games tend to be pretty good about read and write speeds. If it's the data rate you're worried about then 256 would be fine.

approved by Nintendo

Switch 2 Tax

:^)

? they dont sell sdcards tho.

buy an ad

Storage is something that actually got far cheaper over time. Stop whining, sonny.

Vacuum WHAT now?

Standard on what? The most expensive Steam Deck?

Shit I just saw someone lamenting that microsd express only went up to 256gb

do SD cards make your digital game unreadable if you haven't played it in awhile? had this weird error where a game would result a blank screen and close. it's fixed now.

UHS-III is fast enough for anything the Switch 2 can run. Fucking PS4 Pro still used a HDD

shit reminds me of the vita. im glad i never bought it cause of their stupid proprietary cards. these sd cards might as well be switch 2 proprietary, im not going to use them for anything else

I think you know exactly what he said

New

Is 7 years old at this point.

More things will support it now that nintendo is taking the lead.

YMTC nand

Lmao.

Except every year these things will get cheaper as we move on from regular SD to SD express.

It's like HDD to SSD. What third world faggot still uses hard drives for gaming?

The standard is, the consumer products aren't. It's quite new. We just got 256GB last year, and guess who pushed it
cined.com/samsung-256gb-sd-express-microsd-card-announced-time-for-a-new-standard/

It's not. You can go get water and food right now. You are paying to have it cleaned, prepped and sent to you. Dumbass

YES EVERYTHING WAS AMAZING. LITERALLY NOTHING BAD HAPPENED RACISM WAS OVER, AND WE BUILT BACK BETTER

honestly its so small for something that used to be so big, it makes my brainlet think this is all made up SD cards arent real

YES
PAY MORE

Even I as a mexican have 6TB of NVMe storage

somewhere in the area 51 there's petabytes of abducted rape porn recovered from ayy archives

Regular SD cards are garbage, there's already games on the Switch that stutter if you're not using high speed microsd cards and a lot of people are not even aware that it's the SD card fucking up their games, enforcing the express is a good thing

That's absolutely not expensive given the size
A 1tb nvme or sata ssd will cost you $50 and this thing is 100x smaller

nintendo.com/us/store/products/microsdxctm-cards-for-nintendo-switch/
A PS5 that costs $50 more and blows the Switch 2 out of the water in every aspect.

this is shitendos version of sony's magical SSD that was going to make ps5 games run at 8K
you just NEED these sd cards that cost triple the regular sd card price because you just do
nevermind that handheld PCs like the Steam Deck, Ally X, Onexplayer etc run every single game just fine out of normal SD cards, you REALLY need these new ones for toddler's first console

the Oled model in 2 years will cost as much as a PS5 lol

Yes, at least copy your important stuff to the cloud or something. You could periodically clone your SD card to retain everything, will take some hardware to do that though

What hardware?
What's even a good way to transfer tens of thousands of files off an sd card?

Because this is microSD Express, a newer significantly faster form of microSD. It's more than 4x faster than regular microSD. This is actually very smart of them and will be great for prices in the long term because market adoption will drive down the prices. The 880MB/s speed they have is actually faster than SATA III SSD's which usually cap around 600MB/s. It's very impressive technology.

You'd be better off signing for some cloud service and leaving it uploading while you sleep

$100 would normally be a giant ripoff for a 1TB card, but I think these are more expensive because they're supposed to be way faster (note the EX)

I'm not uploading the stuff I have on my phone anywhere

Had that happen with Pikmin 3 Deluxe. Bought it for a relative on a e-Shop sale, was watching them play it, and the fucking music kept cutting out alongside extra long loading times. I cracked open their Switch, saw the piece of shit they had in there and immediately ordered them a new card.

Its a good thing that nintendo is pushing this, everyone else will adapt it too

V cries so much about console hardware holding games back and then when consoles start demanding better they still cry

Wait does samsung get a cut of other companies SD cards from this? I don't like supporting korean industry
I say as I nurse my korean creaming soda

Start coping with loss then

SD Express is a 7 year old standard

I'm just glad that Nintendo pushed it and hopefully this means it'll actually become mainstream unlike UHS-II.

Wut, I have seen 1tb micro SD cards on Amazon for years now.

I've never had to replace a memory stick in anything before. What chick shit are you buying?

I think that's mostly younger anons. As someone who grew up playing vidya on shitty 5400rpm HDD's its amazing to me that a new mobile storage technology can release that's 4x - 8x faster while only costing $10 more than its older equivalent. Its fucking mobile PCIe NVME technology in a tiny SD card smaller than a dime. This shit is pure wizardry..

Stop defending companies nintensnoy

this is micro SD express though, its 4.4x faster than the fastest micro sd card and 8x faster than the average chinkshit one that many people use

the real question is why not add an NVME slot like the PS5 did
heck add one to the dock and use the USBC to quickly move games from the dock to the switch

Nintendo already has a business partnership with SanDisk. All the official licensed Switch microSD cards are SanDisk. So they probably worked together to developed this specifically for Switch 2.

Isn't 1tb like 10-15 games these days?
Shit I'm sure COD slop alone would fill the 256gb of the Switch 2

Cause they decreased production on purpose. It's a cartel. They could make billions of these chips for pennies each but if you paid pennies hey'd make no money.
tldr, capitalism.

SanDisk makes NVMEs as well. I bet they’re making half slot 256gb NVMEs for the storage of the Switch 2.
Wonder if you could open it up and expand internal storage with a bigger NVME that way.

I don't care how fast games load. You know who does? Developers using Unreal. This is for them, but you get to pay for it.

Do you have any idea how expensive the machines that make those things really are and how specific everything needs to be to make them?

Mine works. No idea where they source the flash from but the company has been chinese for a while

My HDD works just fine for half life 2 why does FF16 need a fucking SSD to play? It's all just storage!

I hate you retards

Not that anon but reminds me of a lot of things I've seen gone viral from complaining machinists like

"All day long I machine dozens of this one motorcycle part that costs $400 but they only pay me $50 an hour"

and its like bro the factory you work in cost like $50 million dollars and many years to setup shut the fuck up its one step in a chain of thousands of steps.

I remember when they started prototyping these, the cards were so hot they throttle more or less immediately
Years later and it never found an use case. Cameras moved on to CFe while phones just dropped external storage altogether.

There is literally a samsung in the presentation

Leaks show it's soldered. Official specs says UFS

There is literally a samsung in the presentation

Sure but its SanDisk developed technology, hell the entire SD Card format was created by SanDisk, Panasonic, and Toshiba, so every other manufacturer is still paying them some kind of production or licensing fee. They own the format.

while phones just dropped external storage altogether

Only Apple did this to sell more expensive phones and sure they're the biggest smartphone company but globally they're less than %30 of the total phone market. Every Sony or Android phone I've ever owned has had external storage.

the entire reason SD won the format war is because no company "own" it like memory stick
also samsung claims to have been working with a client for sd express, obviously there's only like one company who would even be remotely interested in an otherwise DOA format
news.samsung.com/global/samsungs-new-microsd-cards-bring-high-performance-and-capacity-for-the-new-era-in-mobile-computing-and-on-device-ai

These can get really fast.

Sure but I don't see them supporting anything better than basic bitch UHS-I

Think I'll just stick to old games. This shit is getting too expensive for a hobby.

There's no demand for these cards

Surely that won't lead to parents buying the wrong fucking sd cards for their kids. Surely.

Nintendo Switch 2 will create the demand and force market adoption. Switch 1 has sold over $150 million units. Even half that would be very successful and great for the microSD Express market.

There is now.

Well, why does it? FF15 looks better.

I played this game from a fucking HDD since I installed it on the wrong drive and was too lazy to move over. Only difference from the PS5 version was that Rifts took 5s to load instead of 1s lmao

Those fucking 'this is not a game' carts are going to fuck over parents and ruin Christmases.

RDR2 runs from a HDD and it looks better than 99% of modern games and is more technically impressive as well. Everything else is shit devs coping about the fact they are hacks with DigiPen degrees.

I'm fucked, haven't been able to find any place that sells express cards to Puerto Rico.

These cards have literally no purpose, Nvme SSDs already come in small form factors and are significantly cheaper and faster. This is literally just a shady deal between companies to force people to buy an otherwise useless product due to the fact you have no choice in being able to use something else.

free market economy

lol

RDR2 took more total man hours to develop than it took to build the Pyramids of Giza. It's unfair to compare any game to it its a monumental wonder of human achievement.

Anon, you literally have the capacity of storing and transfering more information than multi-million dollar companies could ever dream of 50 years ago.
At the size of a child's fingertip.

As I mentioned before, its YMTC chink nand. TeamGroup recently put out a 1tb card (and they use YMTC), so it's probably just the same thing, but package as express.

nvme

cheaper than anything

Jesus, bait used to be believable.

1 cent has been deposited

sandisk shill, you are not welcome here

We had less than 1.44 MB of removable storage for the first 20 years of personal computers, you fucking punk kids.

There is no such thing as a "luxury good", you should demand cheaper everything always. The corporations that produce them demand more profits always, why should the consumers know moderation?

the glownibblers are hoarding ALL the rape porn

so that's why there's no rape porn on the internet...

you don't have a human right to be alive either, so expect a knife in the throat

proprietary memory cards that cost a fortune and are pretty much required for digital games

Hmm, where have I seen this before?

I almost thought that would be a feature for the 2nd usb c port, but this is Nintendo we're talking about.

mirco sd

proprietary

We might be in the age of solid state but you're still going to see a price hike when you try to shove in 1TB of storage into a microsd card, a much more smaller medium compared to standard SSDs and M.2 drives.

And RDR2 has some of the slowest load times ever on PS4 and Xbox One

Nvme SSDs already come in small form factors

And they're still way fucking bigger than a micro sd card.

only works with a specific kind of micro sd that literally only has like 3 products in existence, all of which are like 3-4x the price of regular micro sd cards

It literally is yes.

And it doesn't get much better on these consoles with a SSD because storage isn't the problem. On PC, SSD vs HDD is a ~15s difference on first load.

Eh. Samsung dropped it too, and they're basically the default Android device to most people. From the practicality aspect of not wanting people to shove a low quality chip into their phone and then throw a fit when their pictures corrupt, I get it, but I'm also not going to sit here and pretend it's not almost solely for the reason of pushing people upmarket for the premium models with more internal storage. With Sony, I imagine they support microSD still because they're heavily pushing the idea that you're mostly buying an incredibly high quality camera with a phone attached, so being able to have massive expanded storage is a must.

Nintendo still pulling the ol' "partner with one of Sony's competitors to develop alternative storage media so you can tell Sony to fuck off" meme

Not gonna lie, I find it really funny

That is not what proprietary means
That's like saying the fact that Nintendo said you should only use high watt usb c chargers to charge the switch, back when USB C was only a 3 year old format barely even used by many phones and those chargers were extremely rare, made it proprietary.
Using new breaking edge technology is not a bad thing when said technology isn't proprietary

get a cheap ass dying laptop and an adapter or external drive then, mr epstein

The are 4 different companies that are not Nintendo that produce these, and there will be more over the next couple of years which will drive prices down. This would be like claiming NVMe was proprietary a decade ago.

Express is not proprietary, many companies make micro sd express, and it would be a good thing if it became the new standard.
Why is this so hard for you people to understand?

Fucking PS4 Pro still used a HDD

And it fucking suffered for it, with games regularly having minute long load times just to get to the title screen. You can't have that on a handheld due to battery life wastage concerns.

so what does it do to warrant paying the premium? why couldn't they stick with the former generation of SD cards to begin with? are the load times on the switch really that bad (cf. ps4 vs ps5)?

yes

Too much physical space taken up by an M.2 connector and SSD vs an SD Express slot and card
The Switch 2 isn't any thicker than Switch 1

the real question is why not add an NVME slot like the PS5 did

Too big. Would require way more physical room to incorporate it, the heat sink, and the circuitry into the design and that would make the Switch 2 much larger and miss parity with the Switch 1's thinness. Also, you forget that Nintendo designs their products to be kid-proof. Kids (and nearly all of their parents) aren't going to understand how to install the drive properly without causing a house fire, whereas the most risk a micro sd card poses is a little baby swallowing one, which parents already know to avoid.

add one to the dock and use the USBC to quickly move games from the dock to the switch

I imagine they had the same idea before realizing how inconvenient it is to have the bulk of your games tied to the dock and having to juggle data between the two.

well if Switch 2 hardware and game prices won't come down, at least mSDEx prices will. $60 for 256GB is meh when non-Ex are around $15.

Where did I say proprietary? I said alternative, so fuck off.

Offers read and write speeds comparable to traditional ssds
It's tech that most phone manufacturers have just refused to adopt out of arrogance.

SD non-Ex has been around for like 2 decades
No shit they're cheap as fuck to produce

Nigga that's a low price for alien technology-tier storage

no shit no shit
at least one part in Nintendo's rigid equation will come down. that's the only bone thrown to consumers.

Don't be obtuse, you implied they were using some weird unconventional technology to not have to pay someone.
They could not have chosen a better consumer available tech in this instance. There literally isn't a better alternative unless you want to double the size of the switch.

Oh yeah, fair point. Just let me put my Micro SD card into my Switch 2... huh? Why isn't it working???

it will work, but only for legacy Switch 1 stuff

actually complaining that Nintendo is using 2019 tech instead of sticking with 2005 tech for another gen

there's just no pleasing you tards.

It's worse than that, PS4 inherently caps the bandwidth speed to ensure that there's still enough resources for the console to have all of the system processes (PSN, installs/downloads, livestreaming, media capture, etc.) continue running in the background. So even if you have a PS4 Pro and upgraded the drive to an SSD to take advantage of the new SATA III data speeds (opposed to regular PS4's SATA II data speeds), the fucking piece of shit is handicapping itself because it needs to make sure your Dualshock 4's LED is the correct color.

hmmmm

main alien technology must suck if this is all we got from it.

These microSDs work on any other device compatible with microSDs since they are backwards compatible. The standard is set by the SD Association. You don't know what proprietary means.

arrogance

Greed, you mean. They all dropped microSD support on flagships to do the Apple thing

newer pixel phones don't have them either (my pixel 7a doesn't have a microSD slot)

Why couldn't the sexbot alien ufo crash

Samsung only dropped it from their flagships. A series still have MicroSD slots.

THE PS5 PRO DOESN'T NEED IT
THE XBOX SERIES X DOESNT NEED IT
MY PC DOESN'T NEED IT
EVEN MY PHONE DOESN'T NEED IT
SO WHY DOES NINTENDO REQUIRE IT

Please understand.

THE PS5 PRO DOESN'T NEED IT

THE XBOX SERIES X DOESNT NEED IT

MY PC DOESN'T NEED IT

All use far larger M.2 SSDs that are too big for Switch 2

but muh 'eck

That thing is chunky as fuck. Like thrice the thickness of Switch 2

EVEN MY PHONE DOESN'T NEED IT

Because they can cut costs not supporting it and then upsell retards on internal NAND upgrades for extortionate prices

SO WHY DOES NINTENDO REQUIRE IT

Regular SD standard is too slow for modern games especially if Switch 2 wants third party support

because nvme too big and even if it wasn't, they don't want normalfags tearing down their consoles to plug a nvme drive

Honestly I think they could do away with UHS III, but good thing someone is finally pushing express to the market. Thought the standard was just going to die. Shit's pretty fast

Goddamn the tech surely went a long way in the last 20 years. Remember when floppy discs could barely hold a few megabytes, now what the fuck is this alien shit?

It's actually cheaper than 20 years ago zoomie.

Because retards like
Believe that corporations are entitled to your money and you're selfish/immature if you want otherwise.

Switch 1 was 33% cheaper, had no competition for the form factor, and the games for it are 25% cheaper. Switch 2 isn't going to perform nearly that well. Not quite Wii u bad, but closer to that than switch 1.

It uses nvme instead of the classic SD/MMC protocol. Compare prices with m.2 SSDs to have an idea.

Indeed. When I got my first USB flashdrive in 2006, it was 256MB and it was enough to run Firefox Portable on it, so I could carry my browser with its profile when I had to go to the cybercafe
The next one I got was 2GB in 2009 and it felt MASSIVE. Now people complain that 64 or 128 isn't enough...

1TB

switch 2

what do you think the file sizes are going to be?? this is mario kart we're talking about. it will be 12 GB max

Really depends on the game. Some of the games I play, the load times are halved (eg. Yakuza games in general, or more recently for me, FFO: Stranger of Paradise). I don't think it's so much bandwidth capped, but rather CPU bound loading/decompressing assets.

Lick harder.

Steam Deck uses micro SD just fine....

It can use both actually, the standard is pretty cool. You can put this on a device from 2 decades ago and it still works

MK8 + Updates is already at 12GB and this thing will be open world. I'm betting on 20-30GB

They pulled this same scam with the Switch 1 for the entirety of it's lifespan. The only people that should be falling for this are parents and grandparents that don't want to do any research.

Textures looks incredibly bad, I'd be shocked if it was over 15GB.

Why the f are they using sd express when there was already upgraded sd interfaces that nobody used

I recall there already being 1.5tb cards?

Probably because non UHS-I microSDs basically don't exist since no one adopted it. Also Express is much faster.

Because like you said, nobody used UHS-III and barely anyone used UHS-II so the costs of them never benefited from economies of scale
Plus, those standards still aren't fast enough when SDe is basically PCIe NVMe in yet another form factor

Paid off by Lexar.

you whippersnappers don't even remember when 1GB USB sticks were in BARGAIN bins for $25-35.

Not Express. We got 256gb last year.

It always is at the start of a generation. As this gains more userbase and manufacturing ramps up the price will come down.

It's just to punish people who hoard stuff on their devices. Nowadays everyone has fiber internet so you can download the vast majority of games in less than a couple hours at most, there's no need to keep every single game you own installed but dipshits keep doing it so if you want to do that then pay out the ass for it.

The reason they wont use an external drive is that the user could disconnect the console while files are transferring and damage the data.

the price will come down

we don't live in that world anymore; update your information.

what do you mean expensive?
storage has literally been skyrocketing capacity and nosediving costs nonstop since computers were a thing

Extremely low adoption rate, every other use case for these cards is niche at best, Switch 2 is the first mass market product that will get general consumers to buy these cards.

Not him but the transition from vacuum tubes to transistors and semiconductors is arguably the single biggest technological leap in human history. In weapons terms, it was like skipping from throwing rocks in a sling straight to antimatter rayguns with zero steps in between. If we didn't have that one-in-a-million chance breakthrough discovery, modern computers wouldn't exist at all; they would still fill up rooms and be little more than abacuses with extra steps.

It also coincidentally happened right after the Roswell Incident, and Bell Labs was coincidentally involved with both. It's a very classic tinfoil hat theory that most post-WWII marvels were a result of reverse engineering that UFO.

there's no need to keep every single game you own installed

you say that now but they're going to be coming after piracy hard in the next 5-10 years. the %growth must go up and they've already scooped every breathing normalfag into the market. they can't tiptoe prices up at a rate that keeps up with inflation so they're going to be coming for that tiny slice of the market that emulation/piracy takes up and they're going to have all the weight of most governments behind them. if you aren't storing every game, emulator, and rom on an external or backup drive now, you're falling behind.

Ah yes true might as well go the latest but weird they never used uhs ii or III for the original switch

Not gonna lie, I find it really funny

I don't think anything has ever hurt Nintendo as bad as telling Sony to fuck off and going with Cartridges for the N64.

Anon, filesizes have been increasing in lockstep with capacity. We're not using terrabyte hard drives to store floppy disk data, we're using it to store 200GB+ games.

A hard drive in 1990 can hold the same NUMBER of contemporary game releases as a hard drive in 2025, even though the capacities are worlds apart.

what type of external drive

Yeah, microSDs are a miracle.

You won’t even need a microsd express card until they end up being cheaper. Unless you’re a digital only fag.

Decent NVME stick is around $30 ~ $40 for 256GB.
Its not that expensive, if anything its a good deal with that form factor.

I remember when I paid $100 on Wii launch day for a 1gb sd card.

UHS-3 was released after Switch and UHS-2 simply never caught on, and was quite expensive at the time. Would be a waste of time. You also have to consider that Switch cartridges aren't very fast either, they are about as fast as a UHS-1.

who do you think makes the actual chips

So far, anon, reverse engineering takes time!

b-but bibing bing w-wwhaooo

Given it'll be getting a lot of PS4 ports, like the Switch got PS3 ports, I'm expecting a lot of 30-50gb games.

Do those express cards work on the Deck?
Are they really that much faster?

It doesn't. Yep, around 800MB/s iirc

Damn...
hope Deck 2 supports them

You can use them, but you won't get the boost in speed. Which is fine because that boost doesn't matter.

what if I just repeat shitpost misinformation I saw elsewhere as fact

imagine putting a modern M.2 nvme in there
how hot do you want that brick to get?

how is it still so expensive if its 7 years old?

You could always use an external card reader if you don't mind the jank hanging off.
I'm sure someone would probably knock out an internal card reader mod if they haven't already

Wait so you’re saying that nuking Japan actually led to video games?

Wasn't that on Wii U?

Just don't transfer all the files over from the switch
You are going to be busy with the new games anyways you aren't going to suddenly want to play older shit until it all wears off and by then the prices for storage will have dropped

CYLINDERS!!!!

requires

You've fallen for marketing

People spend $150 in drugs of a dispensary

BUT cant spend $100 in storage

Until we experience DEFLATION prices will not go down on stuff like vidya
Your best hope is to go online and find some autist who pissed off his mom or got in trouble and she sells it to you at half price which is $5 off from getting the console bundle + taxes + tip

it's impressive but also not needed since switch 1 games were much smaller than all other platforms games even pc, so 512gb is more than enough and price is not that bad

out of curiosity check the SD card I'm currently using

SanDisk Extreme UHS-I

bought it shortly after getting my Switch on early 2023 because it supposedly was very good for gaming

90MB transfer speed

I haven't had any issues loading games on my Switch, but all of a sudden I feel so outdated, I hadn't paid any attention to storage technology until now and now it makes sense why Nintendo is trying to move to Express.

Bruh, this shit isn't from UFOs. I'm an electrical engineer. We saw SSDs coming from the earliest days of semiconductors. If anything came from UFOs it's the shit like Project Silica, though there's also a clear line of development from shit like vinyl records to Silica.

I'm going to screencap this post and set a notification on my calendar for 2026 so I feel smug if you turn out to be a retard or ignore it if not.

The Snitch 2 doesn't use internal NVME SSD?

yeah okay space boy

15 years ago a terabyte of solid state storage cost a thousand dollars and the drive needed was the size of a laptop

Even my cheap ass aliexpress m2 ssd mogs the shit out of your shitty micro sd, while my samsung ssd reaches 3567MB/S. Why are you so behind PC? lmao those speeds are of past decade just like your snitch 2 games.

ofc it doesn't since those fags are so behind of a modern technology

people who provide goods and services are entitled to compensation for them, yes. get rid of your nigger "gibsmedat" mentality

They literally said that standard sd cards will not work

are you surprised most of secret clearance job openings actually involve "reverse engineering" ? Whoooa what kind of reverse engineering jobs would require security clearance like that?

1tb nvme $50

1tb meme unreliable sd card $200

thanks jewtendo

I've added you to the list to be probed.

He thinks the vacuum tubes are bad

You do know that was a big chunk of the economy for the west right? Who controls all the chips now? The east.

Also it's because it's an Express card. Wait for black Friday for a deal because there will NOT be any games that will eat up the whole internal storage of the Switch 2.

It was possible on the Wii U but YOU didn't buy it. You could use an external HDD or even a thumb drive/SD card in USB adapter to save data.

Do those express cards work on the Deck?

Yes.

Are they really that much faster?

No. They'd only impact the loading a little bit.

Copy some stuff to a second card and have that be your archival source and the one in your phone is your active source.

this brings it up to about 1k just to play mario shart.

40k

still living within NY in the Year of Our Lord, 2025

My condolences.

read into this

apparently Silica's density was as good as Linear Tape-Open years ago

Microsoft's Azure department told them to stop improving density because why would anyone pay for cloud storage if cheaper, faster, higher density local storage was an option?

Ah, yes. "Capitalism drives innovation."

People who provide goods and services will get the kind of compensation the people they provide those goods and services to are willing to give. You are only entitled the amount of money both you and your customer agreed to in exchange for your goods, the amount of which was also agreed to by both parties.

Doesn't really make sense either because there would still be a market for cloud storage considering only a small number of people host their own servers/cloud and it's most likely business that are buying it up. They could take advantage of that same technology as well. Not to mention most technologies take time to enter consumer markets where the prices would probably be inflated for a while before finally dropping down.
They all have this fear they'll somehow run themselves out of business.

korean creaming soda

What's it called?

That's why they have the special branded SD express cards that are a higher mark up. It won't stop the issue in total, but it will definitely mitigate it.

Honestly at first I thought they were trying to pull a Playstation Vita here as I forgot SD Exoress was a thing and wondered if Nintendo was going to get away with it unlike Sony.

we want the vita audience

it's actually so that they can make money on the marked up branded sd cards they sell at the walmart

Kind of ironic that we supposedly went to the moon with the vacuum tube computers but can't seems to hash it out with the superior semiconductor computers.

It's the god damn white people. Like everything else wrong in the world.

Nigga, what kind of 1tb chink refurbished nvme can you get for just fucking $50????

Just like you can with the MicroSD card?

Should've put an m.2 slot in the dock

For no fucking reason

Have you.... played a switch game in the last 4 years? Load times are fucking terrible. Legit 50+ seconds to load a fight in any fighting game versus 6 seconds on an SSD.

Express is 8x+ faster than regular micro SD cards dudes. 800 mb/s compared to 100 mb/s read speeds. This is a fucking good thing. Do 5 minutes of research you stupid nigger before ignorantly posting your retarded opinions online.

Have you compared commom MicroSD vs MicroSD EX's speeds?
MicroSD speeds are typically below SATA I, heck even below PATA (IDE).

MicroSD EX speeds are easily above SATA III, having a maximum of 985 MB/s, and current offers are around 800 MB/s Read and the half of it on write.

Also the EX ones use the NVMe protocol giving also possibilities of using additional technological benefits from NVMe.

Don't forget that we are talking about small form factor storage too and using relatively "cutting-edge" technology doesn't make them cheaper.

Because nintendo said so.

fighting game

Fag

If it's so much better why hasn't literally anyone in the camera industry adopted it over the past six years? Because it's a dogshit CFexpress-cope format whereas people can just use actual CFexpress cards or continue using the best ordinary SD cards just fine.

Nintendo uses old standard

WHY IS NINTENDO SOOOOO BEHIND EVERYTIME?= REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Nintendo uses new standard

WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE? I WANT MY CHEAP OLD SHIT

industry adopted standards versus published standards that literally nobody uses

you have to actively be stupid and push in the sd card
a cable can easily be yanked or jiggled

Industry adopted

Using it inb a device IS industry adopted you mong

Just let me install an NVMe into the dock then lmao

Because Nintendo learned nothing from the mistakes of the PS Vita

Lexar is literally a Chinese brand. Has been for a decade now.

This will go over well.

Fucking hate microsd cards.
One "removed" itself in the middle of copying files and I would've lost all my shit if I didn't 321 it.

by the glory of chinkshit, aliexpress has all the cheapshit goods you could ever want (or scam) - aliexpress.us/item/3256808119600268.html
no idea of the repute of this brand, tho

Legit 50+ seconds to load a fight in any fighting game versus 6 seconds on an SSD

wait are you serious? what fighting game are you talking about here? that's ridiculous, regardless, I didn't know it was so bad.

the difference here is that tendies will defend this and happily eat nintendo's shit

Switch didn't get Warzone. Have you seen the size of AAA slop like Call of Duty? That 1TB will be gone if you install trash games like that.

It's not just that, the Switch 2 doesn't even have an SSD, their cartridges are slow and so are these. Loading speeds are going to suck ass no matter what anyone does.

a single game could be 50gigs nowadays cause devs are so careless

he doesn't know about Nestle

You can go get water and food right now.

not unless you pay for them
it's literally illegal to collect rain water
it's illegal to plant your own seeds unless you pay for the rights
it's illegal to hunt unless you pay for a license
it's illegal to fish and so on

we would be stuck on fucking vacuum tubes still

and life would be much better

We have confirmation that Cyberpunk fits entirely on a Switch 2 cartridge, and that's about 100GB.
That means those game cartridges can hold at least that much.
I doubt any first-party Nintendo game will be as big as Cyberpunk, but I can't imagine why they'd make the cartridges that big otherwise. If it's just for Cyberpunk, they could have made it a Game Key Card instead.

Cyberpunk is confirmed to be on a 64gb cartridge.

America land of the free

Kek I got myself a 1 tb ssd for 55 dollars, Kingston even. Retarded tendies

Nigga 512 gb branded nvme costs like 40 dollars. Where do you live?

you are aliens

Since when did Nintendo own Samsung and Sandisk?

petapixel.com/2025/04/02/sd-express-finally-has-a-use-but-it-dumped-its-biggest-advantage/

Kingston

My condolences

No need for it when I play physical only. Digital cucks btfo

but shitendo doesn't profit out of SD cards

it's not like shitendo could be receiving game cartridge memory deals from memory suppliers to push this shit

You can ask for whatever you want.

tfw when power companies are paying Nintendo to create consoles that use power instead of going back to playing cards

It all makes sense now.

Almost like someone lied.

I bet it's just as small as a microSD card, because otherwise you'd be really fucking retarded for thinking that's a good comparison.

bootlicker is disingenuous

color me surprised!

Where is the best deal for an express card Anon Babble

Sony's cards were proprietary.
Express cards might be expensive but you don't need to buy Nintendo's.

big tech things = cheap
small tech things = expensive

Nintendo actually knows how to compress their games, so first party titles will be fine regarding that.

Third Party non indie games is where the issues begin

Why are you like this man?

the smaller it is, the less materials it needs so it should be cheaper

Went ahead and got a 256GB sandisk card. $60 for that little stings but whatever I guess

Is there any advantage over the usual a2 for switch gaming?

0

goyim moment

The whole SD standard is proprietary, it just has an economy of scale

Exactly, I can ask for whatever I want and what I'm asking for is cheaper games.

If you think that was expensive, you should have seen back in the day when we used IDE harddrives. Shit was like $200 just for 100gb.

not that we know, probably UFS

If it's NV2 make a backup.
My 2TB NV2 died after one year.

chink SSDs

reliable

You know they all use chips that didn't pass QC, right? That's why there's so many random brands for cheap

alie

ive got a bridge to sell you

Because microSD are extremely niche and have never been cheap

OMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Why would you ever pay more for a worse product? Fucking M.2 drives cost less per TB than these slow pieces of shit.

But it's too made in china tho..

because Switch 2 won't use M.2, they'll use these

Can your m2 drive fit inside a micro sd card slot?

Yes

There's not enough SS officers left to go to the moon again. Just can't do it without them.

The cards are backwards compatible, the Switch isn't. Lrn2read

Bell Lab had 1% of every phone call made in the United States at that time for its R&D budget. That the reason they invented some many things until the breakup of Bell in 1982.

While revolutionnary, the transistor is not the the only invention that changed the paradigm of its time, another one is the Steam Engine.

It literally isn't by any meaning of the word.

The SD Association (SDA) is an American nonprofit organization that sets standards for the SD memory card format. SanDisk, Panasonic (Matsushita), and Toshiba formed the SD Association in January 2000.[1] In 2010, the SDA had approximately 1,000 member companies involved in the design and development of SD standards.