$80 is cheap, you're lucky games aren't $110 each like they should be
$80 is cheap, you're lucky games aren't $110 each like they should be
I’d pay the price if the games were good
Given the saturated state of the market I would argue that any one game's value is fundamentally lower than in the year 2000.
They just don't want you to consider that supply and demand exists in the entertainment world as well.
The cost of games has not kept up with inflation, wage growth, or the rapidly increased cost of making games for literally decades at this point. The up-front cost of AAA titles increasing is long overdue which is why it's skyrocketing from 60 to 70 to 80 already. The MSRP on basically every commodity is 30% higher than it was 20 years ago, there's no reason why this wouldn't be the case for video games too. Demanding that the cost of a consumer good stays stagnant for as long as gamers have demanded that video games stay exactly $60 is completely unreasonable.
That being said, I am unreasonable and I'm not about to start paying that much. I pirate everything I can and wait for sales on everything else. And I'm sure as shit not spending $80 on fucking Mario Kart.
In 2000 I actually got a complete game to own, and that was a disc or cart that had to be printed, shipped to a store, and stocked on a shelf. Now it's a licence voucher that they can take away when they don't feel like it anymore.
You people really are goycattle
It's not unreasonable if you don't want to pay that much. If the product they create is not worth the cost to you, it's not your fault they decided to spend millions and millions to make the product.
GAMES WERE FUCKING GOOD IN 2000
Playing games often is cattle behavior at any price
t. Gamer
salaries hasn't increased so it's a net loss for the consumer
if 80 is cheap then my salary should also be 20% higher than 4 years ago but it isn't
Did they have 14 different DLC for every game in 2000? Didn't factor that in, did you, numbnuts? Cope more.
If the product they create is not worth the cost to you, it's not your fault they decided to spend millions and millions to make the product.
Yes, it's fine to look at some dumpster fire Snoy walking sim and say "$80 for that? No fucking way." But saying "$80 for any video game ever? No fucking way." is retarded. No consumer demographic on the face of the earth has stamped their feet over a 20-30% price increase even though most things have gotten even more expensive than that over the past few decades. Subscription services, movie tickets, cars, fast food, you name it. It's all more expensive and people still just bite the bullet and accept that this is what it costs now. Only gamurrrz are economically illiterate enough to get sticker shock so deep and cutting that they legitimately think "This is bullshit, why does it cost more money than it did 30 years ago?" It's legitimately irrational. This market is not unique, it could never sustain $60 MSRP in spite of skyrocketing costs, they just subsidized it with DLC and GAAS shit. The monkey's paw curled, the market said "Yes, we're okay with DLC and GAAS shit", we kept our $60 MSRP, but now we don't even have that.
All this bitching about an increase of 10$ makes me wonder, how many games does the average Anon Babble user even buy for a console? I buy like 3.
$60 was overpriced, that's why major releases often came in lower but never dared advertise higher without special edition shit. That's also why prices often immediately plummeted after release on both ebay and Steam.
10x more games competing for money and time
10x more gamers so easier to turn a profit
non-scarce product so little supply pressure
graphics have died so you're competing with good games from 10 years ago
$60 was overpriced.
Okay but Witcher 3 is still $5 for the base game and all the DLC and that's 160 hours of much better content for 1/16th of the price.
Plus the entire market is flooded with f2p games so good luck getting people to pay $80 lmao.
Games were much more niche, regarding the knowledge needed to actually make one for many years, as such the price was associated with the scarce skilled worker capital at the time.
Now games are much easier to produce, you are sold half of the game and charged another $20-$40 for the rest of it at a later date, all while the people, knowledge, and skills needed are much more of a commodity to be found.
The state of the industry has declined, AAA costs still rise - even though the human capital needed to produce the games now is more common (and paid less).
Its actually insanely absurd.
They increased their own costs. The games industry is literally the most profitable entertainment sector in the world. They just got fat and lazy and suddenly they realized the bloat is hurting them, so they want retards like you to push the blame onto consumers who don't want to pay, instead of the creators who caused this in the first place.
Kill yourself Nintenigger.
Games were not $60 in 2000.
yeah there were no indie games back then to be sold for $10 or $15 that just destroy most aaa games. those indies don't have mtx or dlc either, fucking mario kart world for $80 will have $50 of dlc and it requires you to pay for online.
I buy dozens per system and only ever play like half the games I own. I've done your thing too a couple of times when I was into MMOs, so I know where you're coming from. If all I was going to buy was 3 GTAs, 2 MGSs, and an FF, I wouldn't give a fuck either.
Have you stopped to consider why videogames don't operate like a lot of other markets?
Do moviegoers throw hissy fits over theater tickets or streaming services going up in price? Nobody held a gun to Hollywood and told them to inflate their movie and advertising budgets by a metric fuckton either, but number must always go up including overhead and budgets, so that number goes up. When the number spend on production goes up, the cost of consuming the product goes up too. Eventually something will buckle, usually the market deciding it no longer wants number to go up, so companies are forced to make all of the numbers go down which usually results in a lot of bankruptcy, and that can be either good or bad depending on whether or not the studios you hate are being shuttered (for every Ubisoft biting the dust, there goes like 10 AA devs who made a game you actually like).
Shit costs more over time in any healthy capitalist economy. It is and always will be irrational to expect a product to always cost the same thing. There's a reason that Arizona Iced Tea and Costco hotdogs can advertise off of NOT doing that, because it's extraordinary. They compensate for the reduced margins per sale by selling more of it because people like that the cost is the same and it's a good marketing gimmick.
I was thinking this earlier. Pretty sure Donkey Kong 64 was $60 when it came out and that was 25 years ago.
zoomers have no idea how good they have had it
Do moviegoers throw hissy fits over theater tickets or streaming services going up in price?
Yes. Have you seen the state of movie theaters and streaming services? They are closing and consolidating left and right, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Ok then raise my salary accordingly
People in 2000 actually had jobs.
We're lucky these games are bad otherwise we'd want to pay $80 to play them
It's almost as if affordability is dependent upon things like cost of living increases and wage stagnation and not just inflation caused by pumping money directly into the hands of banks without ever having touched an actual humans hands.
I hate Inflationfags
I was genuinely ready to kill myself after buying a game at this price and then beating it in just a few hours. That was a year's allowence.
Theaters are going out of business because covid lockdowns broke people of going out to see movies and the fact that 9 out of 10 movies are woke garbage (see the live action Snow White).
This attempt at an argument has always been massively fucking retarded. Won't somebody PLEASE think about the multi-billion $ corporations for the industry that has literally never been more profitable??? Getting massively jewed is ok since the line on the graph must always go up!
culture war faggot still coping
Streaming killed movie theaters more than shitty movies ever did faggot.
They can up the price of games and the games quality will still be shit. There are 100x more indie devs who rightfully contribute a downward force on the price of games so games really ought to be $30 which is what a lot of successful titles are. If AAA cant compete with indies then they deserve to go broke.
nah, games should be $200
Annual box office gross fell off a cliff due to covid and will likely never recover as people culturally move away from watching movies in theaters. Movie tickets went up in price across 2021 thru 2023, yet the box office still recovered because people were okay with spending more money on tickets as long as they could get back in seats.
Streaming services are (unfortunately) surging in overall profit as a market, and in sheer number of how many cancerous fucking premium exclusive services there are, I don't even know what you're talking about there. I wish those industry would collapse but it's here to stay for the foreseeable future.
Cool. Now show how much wages have increased since then.
admits movie was garbage
$80 is cheap, you're lucky games aren't $110 each like they should be
*they oughtta be
Those are CAD.
Inflation is also imbued in the quality of the product, not just in it's price
fun fact: Super Man 64 was $99.99
Yep, it was £59.99 in the UK, released 3rd December 1999. Would be £112 in today's money.
Some of these games are more expensive than Mario Kart World and that ad is 30 years old.
I'll pay 5 top
Poorfags should be working, not playing vidya.
Except the value of games and the amount of content they offer has decreased
No body was beating those games in a couple of hours. Games back then took ages to master. I nearly smashed my TV playing the minecart level on Donkey Kong Country.
*used to be
Donkey Kong 64 was so expensive on release that I actually couldn't afford it. I had to wait 3 years, and then the game sucked too. Bummer!
obtusely ignores the point
Concession accepted.
*plays it anyway*
I recieved Donkey Kong Country as a christmas present in, 94? 95? And beat it that same evening. I mean, it was fucking great, but man was I disappointed anyway that I had nothing new to play until my next birthday. It kept me from giving DKC2 a chance until many years later, thinking it was just a rushed level pack released a year later. Boy how wrong I was.
Economic terrorism.
Most modern games have more content than stuff from 2000.
Yes it has, it's called DLC and special editions
I’m a zoomer (98) and I distinctly remember brand new games from 6th gen being 49.99 at most. Don’t know if there was any complaining prior to that because I’ve heard that game prices fluctuated so much during 3,4, and 5th gen based on retailers. $49.99 was the standard price though for PS2,GC, Xbox era. Then PS3 came out and it was $60 and there was some upset but it was justified with the move to HD, longer dev times and higher assets. Then this gen $70 suddenly became a thing but Nintendo was the only one who didn’t follow suit until ToTK came out and now they’re the first to charge $80
I don't mind people wanting the price to stay the same but they can't really complain if their own wages stay the same while the cost of everything rises. For me but not for thee is simple minded stuff.
The original Mario Kart was $50 in 1992, you can't argue that it has more content for a lower price than Mario Kart World.
I didn't buy at $60
I don't buy at $70
I won't buy at $80
Go ahead, do your worst. It's not my problem, I've long since checked out from the AAA market.
i normally don't defend this but nintendo games don't lose as much value as other games so it's not as bad as you might think
I like how people pretend actual inflation isn't somewhere around 15% a year.
Pretty much. Zoomers don't know games used to be much more expensive and have variable pricing back in the day. If a game was premium product and expensive to make, it flatout cost more.
The static $60 price has the exception historically. Dev budgets have risen exponentially since the price standards of the mid-2000s. Game prices haven't tracked with inflation at all for the last 20 years.
I'm fine paying $70-90 for a game if it means no MTX bullshit and I think it's worth the premium. But I'm also not a poorfag so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Games are easier to make than ever. Why is the price continuing to rise? According to my public school teachers, the opposite should be happening.
digital distribution didn't exist back then you retarded faggot
I'm fine paying $70-90 for a game
Omega-goy
*has been the exception
Also if you're a true poorfag and not some middle class+ retard bitching, just wait for emulators/console homebrew and pirate. Nobody is going to care.
even more actually, if SS went to modern year shit would be like $800
People also actually owned their games and had complete games from the get go. You shouldn't have to pay more to fund economic terrorism.
Inflation has gone up but wages haven't
Games back then were bought with our parent's money who at the time could afford a house and to raise children with one job. No one can afford games these days and have to do a fulltime+parttime+gig job just to afford rent.
Games in the 80/90s were expensive to make (manufacturing costs) = expensive games
Games in the 2000s were cheaper to make (cheaper dev costs) = cheaper games
Games in the 20s are expensive to make (development costs) = expensive games
Even if dev budgets hadn't exponentially ballooned over the last 20 years, it's retarded to expect prices to remain forever static with inflation.
And that is considering games are less expensive than they were then.
>Games in the 20s are expensive to make
this is a choice
also gaming is a much, much, MUCH bigger market than even 20 years ago
This. You can buy a game at 90$ and then sell it for 80$ half a decade later. The game cost you 10$.
Wages have gone since the mid 2000s when $60 became the price standard, even for the middle class/working class.
The 1% is still getting a disproportionate amount of the wealth and fucking everyone else over. But even fucking McDonald's is paying $15 an hour now, that would be unheard of 20 years ago
this is a choice
Yes but the genie is out of the bottle. Mass market normalfags aren't suddenly going to accept 6th/early 7th gen dev practices and game standards overnight.
Ironically Nintendo is doing a better job promoting their smaller, mid-budget IPs more than any other company (e.g. Rhythm Heaven, Tomodachi Life). Games like Kirby can sell 5-10m units while costing 1/100th of the budget of Western AAA slop. Barely any other companies have (or attempt to promote) smaller IPs that can sell like this, especially in the West
Do we have to say this every fucking time someone brings up the "durr inflation" argument to justify kikery?
Average wages have NOT increased to account for inflation.
Also if you're a true poorfag and not some middle class+ retard bitching
This bothers the fuck out of me. One of my friends makes like $40 an hour and is still whining about the Mario Kart thing. Nigger it's two hours' worth of work, if you want to play the game then just buy it. I never heard this motherfucker bitch about spending $60 on Fallout 4 when he was in college working part time at a uni job making a quarter as much as he does now. Sticker shock rots peoples' brains. Is it quantum fucking physics to estimate the cost of your consumption relative to your income? It shouldn't be this hard to process.
Yeah, people purposefully ignore actual purchasing power in favor of inflation as a metric because it makes their corporation look better.
*gone up
That's basically the jist of it. There was some talk that the PS4/Xbone would jump to $70 for games as inflation had made the $60 from when the 360 released in 2005 less than $70 in 2013 but they kept the $60 price point, probably because more people began buying digital games. Also there was talk of 3DS games going to $50 from the DS's $40. The publisher and console maker actually make more money selling a digital game for $60 and a physical game for $70 in a lot of cases. Throw in things like removing manuals, and other things to cut down on the cost of physical games and they were able to more afford the $60 for the time being.
The proprietary physical cartridges the Switch 1 and 2 use are not nearly as cheap to produce as a blu-ray. Making 32 and 64GB cartridges for the Switch 2 is why physical games on it cost more. It would not be feasible or reasonable for them to have the physical version cost the same if they're spending ~$15 just to make the cartridge as the bigger Switch 1 carts reportedly cost $10 to make already. Nintendo has the most reason of all the console manufacturers to go all-digital by far.
Average wages have NOT increased to account for inflation
Explain this then retard
Are parents really gonna buy their kids $80 games?
At least 25 years ago I could show my dad Tekken Tag Tournament and he'd go "oh shit that looks way better" and he'd understand and buy me a PS2
Shit doesn't even look different anymore, is a parent gonna understand why this game costs $20 more other than "it's new"? My parents would've kicked my ass
Mario Kart World is $30 less than the original Mario Kart when accounting for just inflation.
ERRRRMM I PLUGGED THE PRICE OF THIS GAME FROM 1992 INTO AN INFLATION CALCULATOR, I AM VERY INTELLIGENT
roast these people alive
Inflation is nearly 300% from 1980. The average US citizen has had a 20% wage increase according to that chart.
yes, all the time, constantly, you actual paid shill.
10$
Its 20 dollars plus tax
For some games it's 40 dollars plus tax and that's without the download issue for physical games.
You underestimate modern consoomer mentality. People spending incredibly frivolously during and post is one of the main drivers of inflation (that coupled with money printer going brr)
games in 2000 were $40.
I'm sorry you think games should be $60 forever now that mommy and daddy aren't buying them for you anymore.
ERRRRMM THE PRICE OF CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SPECIFICALLY SHOULD REMAIN FIXED FOREVER AND EVER EVEN THOUGH THE COST OF EVERY OTHER COMMODITY GOES UP OVER TIME DUE TO STRONGER WAGES AND LESS VALUABLE CURRENCY
roast these people alive
Please, please, PLEASE buy the slop, they'll stop paying me if you don't
lol
A burrito in 1990 cost 99 cents
A burrito in 2025 costs 10 dollars
A game in 1990 cost 70 dollars
A game in 2025 costs 70 dollars
Explain this then.
nintendo games are free
The cost has gone down in every way, retard. Now one person can make an entire high quality game. Hell, indies have blown AAAs out of the water all the fucking time in the last decade.
It's just because you're too retarded to manage your own budget, and want to pass the expense to me.
More people buying games, same amount of people buying burritos.
the propaganda never ends does it
the publisher gets to only increase their earnings by 20% over what they gained net in 2000
so dictates the customer, who is always right
tell me with a single numerical value what you think a videogame should cost in 2025
Luxuries have gotten cheaper, necessities have gotten more expensive.
Blame "Free" trade.
I could be that for him Fallout 4 was worth the 60 dollars to him at the time where as Mario Kart is not worth 80 dollars. That's how I feel about a lot of things. Some are worth the price, some are not.
Back in 1990, you could pay thousands of dollars for a computer with 1 MB of RAM.
Multiply that by how many MB of RAM you have now (probably at least 8000), and then adjust for inflation. Wow, you're so lucky that you didn't pay literally tens of millions of dollars for your computer in 2025. Inflation is the only thing that should affect prices of things like RAM, so actually, you practically stole your computer and you should feel bad about it. And I haven't even started adjusting for processor speed, storage, etc.
I mean it's not like inflation-adjusted costs of things should ever go down. If you didn't pay at least $30,000,000 for your PC, you practically stole it, and you should feel bad.
zoomer pretending he was more than a white dot with a tail back then in someone's nutsack posts an image he can't process
The chart explicitly shows real wage growth, which accounts for inflation. Not nominal wage growth you fucking retard.
Yeah they need to be more organic when complaining about $80 games in 2025.
games NEED to be more expensive even though we outsource everything to jeet farms and games are broken and unfinished and run like shit and have paid DLC and you don't even get a disc or manual anymore
inflation calculator
always the same shit with you retarded tendies. wages should be 1.5x what they were thanks to increases in productivity
boy, I sure wonder what happened in 1971
Depending on how wide-spread the $80 price tag is (DK is $70, some of the third party games are $35 and $60, but placeholder prices of other Nintendo games are currently $80), you might see people falling back on older habits where people will rely more on buying physical games used, renting games (GameFly), and just generally buying less games new on release.
I don't think there's been a single AAA game I've wanted in the last like, decade. I still haven't finished breath of the wild, that shit's just boring. And I think that was the last AAA game I bought, and even that wasn't at full price.
But he full versions of games are already $100 to $1000? Base game+ day1 dlc + all the skins
The up-front cost of AAA titles increasing
no reason to do that. scale back production to PS1/Saturn~PS2 level (PS3 level in exceptional cases). but we all know you won't because you'd rather sink $500 million producing movieshit and bitching when it fails to sell 20 gorillion copies
want to buy the full game of stellaris
200 dollars
Food costing more doesn't mean people have more money to spend on toys.
Whereas people can't just choose not to buy food, the price of entertainment is absolutely determined by what people are willing to pay. The fact that your dad was willing to pay $70 for a video game in 1990 doesn't mean I'm morally obligated to pay the $70+inflation.
dollars
$300.56
The cost has gone down in every way, retard.
Not for AAA games. Budgets just keep inflating. Don't like it, go buy indie games. I don't like it, therefore I barely ever buy AAA, but I understand why they would start to charge more because it's basic, and I mean the most basic of possible fucking economics. Thing cost more to make, thing cost more to buy.
Stupid question, depends on scale. I wouldn't spend $40 on a pixel art indie game that lasts a few hours, but I would spend that much on a 100 hour long RPG that's on sale.
I would be thrilled if companies scaled back production costs so I could go back to giving a shit about the AAA games market, but companies will always chase bigger numbers until something buckles under the constant pressure of growth. And if those numbers go up, the cost of the game will go up too, and I won't be surprised or outraged when that happens.
1 MB of ram in 1990 was not a consumer product and you aren't buying a DOS game in 2025
nice dodging the question
yeah DOS games are actually feature-complete
I will dodge retarded questions just like you dodge retarded overpriced games. This is the free market of internet arguments at work. Don't like it, ask me smarter questions.
budgets keep inflating
But every single cost has gone down.
It's not my fault you can't balance your budget.
You're paying half of what I paid, in a time when money was worth ten times more. I could've bought a hundred burritos for a game while you can only buy ten. A game is worth more than ten burritos.
Now inflate my paycheck, rabbi
the price of luxury goods does not rise at the same rate as the price of food
you cannot charge really high amounts for luxury items since nobody's salaries have gone up in the last ~30 years; they'll just stop buying them
you can charge more for food because people will die if they don't eat
it's better to keep the price of your luxury goods lower so that more people can actually buy it since 60x50 > 80x30
also, especially now with digital goods, the cost of manufacturing is simply the initial cost, there isn't constant product upkeep like with physical products and you'll never have a bunch of worthless merchandise sitting around (unless you're stupid)
you just make the product once and then you only need to pay some server fees to keep downloads available forever (or not if you host it on steam or whatever)
you can't just sell copies of the same burrito 5 million times
you're also exaggerating slightly, it's more like $5-6 for a burrito from bell
you aren't buying a DOS game in 2025
Yes I am
store.steampowered.com
It's $5 for 5 games. Adjust that for inflation, bitch.
No, it's not.
I don't care how many people worked on the game.
too bad I'm spending all my money on reasonably healthy food now so I'll just buy $10 indies on the side or $35 AA games at the most
Don't ask questions bigoted sexist!
I'm sorry you are poor but a game that costs the same as they did 30 years ago is the opposite of expensive.
Just spend less on food, lmao. You lose weight, also.
$80 is cheap
They should be cheaper.
There's no reason for them to be so expensive but corruption.
nice arbitrary percentage you’ve got there
But every single cost has gone down.
The cost of maintaining an expanding workforce that's being paid higher wages in a currency that's being constantly devalued due to inflation is going down? That's interesting. I wonder what infinite money glitch AAA devs discovered that makes that possible, and why they'd bother raising MSRP and risk alienating their consumer base in spite of it.
POOR POOR POOR
hey richie rich, wanna buy one of my turds down your throat for $1000?
I don't remember games being 60 in 2000 though. 50 feels more right but maybe I'm wrong.
being paid higher wages
They're being paid cents, they're in india
Expanding workforce
It's not my fault you can't balance your budgets, stop hiring so many people to make shit games
Why'd they raise the cost then?
Corruption, pure and simple. They don't need that many people, it's pure graft.
Okay. If you just want to cope and seethe about people not wanting to pay $700 for a video game, then go ahead.
Or we can skip to the part where you say
SO PEOPLE JUST DON'T VALUE VIDEO GAMES AS MUCH ANYMORE??
and I say
yeah
and then that's the end of the conversation because this is how the free market works.
reddit meme chart barely anybody actually understands
Productivity gains haven’t translated into proportional wage increases since the 1970s because most of the benefits have gone to corporate profits and higher-income earners, not workers.
Simply saying wages "should be 1.5x" ignores inflation, declining union power, globalization, and policy changes that have kept wages not matching the rise in productivity.
Real wage growth has gone up since the mid 2000s when the $60 vidya price became standard. This is an indisputable fact. Whether real wage growth should've gone up higher in correspondence with higher productivity gains is a separate discussion.
You retards don't know economics. Please stop trying
$80 is historically cheap, your perspective is extremely warped by the $60 games decade
No.
It is far more expensive than it needs to be for the quality of product they are putting out.
I've seen teams put out better games with less than a 20th of the team size.
It was $60-70 for snes games because cartridges were super expensive to produce. $30-50 for playstation
order of magnitude price increase
anon stop you just look dumb
I was at work during the Direct, but it sounds like Nintendo is repeating its mistakes from the 90s
Those games were on solidly built, state of the art cartridges that would last through decades of abuse and often had their own special computer chips on them too.
New games these days are a slip of paper with a download code printed on it.
Read the post to which I replied.
I could've bought a hundred burritos for a game while you can only buy ten.
The order of magnitude increase wasn't my idea. I computed $700 from $70 based on the burrito exchange rate I was given.
You stupid fucking idiot. Learn to read.
Most of that goes to increased student debt, rent, and health insurance. People that are struggling to afford groceries aren't going to pay more for VIDEO GAMES.
Inflation is not real, i still have the same 20K in my bank i had in 2020. (okay i made and lose x8 quite a few time but that falacious)
The PS1 made $50 standard(with $20 for the best sellers). Before that they could be $70-$80. Playstation unironically saved gaming by making developing and distributing games cheap and buying games cheap. Nintendo was an iron fisted tyrant during the NES and SNES days, people are freaking out about what Nintendo is doing right now but this is classic Nintendo. They were this retarded with the Wii U and 3DS too, especially the terrible 3DS pricing where the console was retardedly expensive(as much as the Vita before the price cut) and the games increased in price from the DS as well.
As a rule of thumb, you NEVER want Nintendo to do good because they're complete faggots when they do well for a generation, which is why every successful is followed by them faceplanting.
same. most AAA games don't even look that good and the ones that do are worth like $15 to me at most
You forgot to add the content stripped out and sold back to you piecemeal as DLC.
$35 dolars was way too much to ask for atari games back when they first came out.
this too, you can be a cuck and pay 'full price' if you want to.
They were 60 and sometimes more than that.
This chart shows productivity outpacing wage growth. Not wage growth stagnation.
Real wage growth (which accounts for inflation, nominal doesn't) has increased 109% since 1948. Real wage growth has gone up about 20% for most since the mid 2000s ()
Yes the Jews and 1% are fucking us over and wages should match productivity. But this chart isn't saying what you think it does.
muh indians muh outsourcing muh corruption
Fuck it, you're right. Video game companies are uniquely bad at budgeting, leading to their budgets going up when they could, in fact, be going down. They're horrible at maximizing margins by managing their budgets poorly, but also somehow also brilliant at maximizing margins by outsourcing everything to indians who work for $3 an hour. Jewish game journalists and paid shills like me are lying when we try to suggest that this isn't the case. Down with Ubisoft or something.
The state of the AAA industry is terrible right now. You are living in a different reality if you think that the video games industry SPECIFICALLY should be able to weather the past 20 years of inflation and wage growth without seeing any increased MSRP for a brand new AAA video game. There's no evidence backing that up, no matter how much you say "dude games COULD cost less if they, like, spent their money better". Just keep ignoring this shitty industry and buying cool indie games, you'll think more correct thoughts per minute if you just ignore this topic entirely.
Let them raise it as high as they want to.
I'm not paying for it either way.
The state of indie games proves this wrong flatly.
They've been whipping the pants off of AAA for fucking ever now.
NEO GEO games back in the 90s were $200- $300 each.
Super Metroid for the SNES was $65 in 1994 when it came out. That's $140 today
Fucking retards in this thread pretending like the consumers are holding the CEO of game companies at gunpoint to release at $60.
Kamala could have saved us but nooooo you wanted to be an epic chud and vote for cheeto.
dude games (with manuals and other goodies) were expensive back then too
OK now post grocery ads
I just wanted the illegals to get kicked out
Pay 800+ dollars for eight games on the Switch 2
Could buy literally hundreds of games on Steam for that price
Can play almost all games for free via piracy
So as as your ad demonstrates they were usually under $50 for the system that used optical media.
PlayStation CD-ROMs reportedly cost US$1 (equivalent to about $2 in 2024) to manufacture, while cartridges for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System cost $15 ($30)[22] and Nintendo 64 cartridges reportedly more than $30 ($60)
simple as
*ten games
You see, you may have a point if they made games that are even worth a crack.
Why would you buy console games?
So realistically, this will be the same for the Switch 2. Meaning most multiplats will have to use the cheapest game cards and use those new cards that are glorified download codes just so the Switch 2 versions don't lose them money compared to the PC/Xbox/Playstation versions. It's either that or Switch 2 versions are $10 to $20 more expensive than everywhere else.
Games weren't $60 in the 2000s.
paying for games
lmao shiggydiggy
have a picture of my cat and know that i'm laughing at you
Tech illiteracy costs a lot. To most consumers, shit like phones and consoles are magic boxes that they turn on and stare into for a couple hours so they can forget what happened that day. They don't want to put time or effort into getting the mindless entertainment for free, they just want the mindless entertainment.
But they're already more than 80 USD when you factor in the fuck ton of DLCs and micro transactions
it's surreal to me that people can interact with a device every single day but don't know how to do basic things like adjusting the settings on their phone, and they use it EVERY FUCKING DAY
human laziness is what drives this, the longer computers are around the worse people get at using them
Are we pretending phones have versetile user interface? Can I run a cmd line on my phone when it fucks around?
I still remember when the horse armor came out.
I remember when fags like you defended that shit.
There are allways homos like you that like to lick boots, and this is where it got us.
From Horse Armor to unfinished games that cost 80$€ for the beta test version, that you cant buy an physical copy of to do whatever the fuck you want with it, like lending it to a friend or reselling it.
You said yes to every anti consumer move any corpo in the business made.
I never went full on pirate...but now its the objectively and morally right decision to just fuck this industrie whenever possible.
Please go die
See, that's my point exactly.
Your first thought is actual debugging or terminal work because phones seem so simple--but for the vast majority of boomers and other retards it's literally AS complicated as running terminal commands for them to simply GRASP the concept of file systems or what APPs even are.
OY VEYYYYYYY DELETE THIS POST! THE ONLY CONSOLES THAT EXIST ARE THE SNES AND THE N64! anti-semite!
prices going up is anti-consumer
Actual child brain. I can't fix you.
all hail infinite growth
or the rapidly increased cost of making games for literally decades at this point.
Just make cheaper games.
Fuck.
I never went full on pirate...but now its the objectively and morally right decision to just fuck this industrie whenever possible.
Unless the game is an old game, why pirate unless you're impatient for a sale?
game's good
Why not give developers money? That's voting with your wallet.
game's shit
Why would you play it?
game's too expensive and it's good/want to try it out
Now that's fair. If I had to buy games before trying them out I would not have played as much games. It also helped me avoid stinkers/games I don't get.
Accepting prices rising while receiving inferior and blatanly unfinished products is all grown up
Bleach your holes
console
PC gamer. Newest game I bought was KCD II in six years. My biggest gaming regret, will never buy new again.
I was hoping with their armor slot system, that the developers actually made the game I wanted
Nintendogs are fucking us in the ass, but it could be worse, so be thankful.
Okay retard, now post the average amount of AAA game sales and general userbase size in 2000 compared to 2025. Even just the last ten years alone has caused a 50% increase in potential buyers at increasingly near-zero distribution cost over the same amount of time since physical is dead. I don't care how much games cost to make, that's on the developers to keep that shit under control. There are better, more powerful and more efficient tools for making video games now than there ever were in the past, and if they can't figure how out to do more with more then again, that's a dev problem. They have the right to charge whatever they want for whatever turd they squeeze out, and I have the right to not participate in that level of retardation. They don't just deserve more of my money because they can't figure out how to save it themselves, especially as the rest of my life goes up in price there is less and less reason every day to spend even the standard $60 on shittier and shittier video games. If you are stupid enough to waste your money like that, go for it, we're going to keep laughing at you as we buy better games at $10 than you even have access to at $100.
Yep. Making them more expensive sure as fuck didn't make them any more fun
games are already $150+ but everyone loves to downplay how they are sold incomplete and loaded with micro transactions.
don't care, still not buying games that aren't under $20
inflation
economic jewjitsu and not real