Eidos-Montreal wants to bring back Deus Ex, and it’s been looking for ways to do so

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Eidos-Montreal wants to bring back Deus Ex, and it’s been looking for ways to do so

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Eidos-Montreal wants to bring back Deus Ex, and it’s been looking for ways to do so.

While working on details regarding the recent layoffs at the Montreal, Quebec-based studio, it was learned that the company had been actively pitching to external partners and publishers a new Deus Ex game.

According to multiple sources close to the studio’s plans, Eidos-Montreal was pitching the new game regularly, but it hasn’t led to any commitments from publishers.

One source said that there was a belief from a couple possible partners that the series was “too niche” at this stage. Another said that it became clear after a few meetings that publishers aren’t willing to take on the financial risk that comes with the Deus Ex franchise at the moment.

It's over.

Deus Ex can't get a publisher

gay brown people game with neon purple lighting #136 gets $250m no questions asked.

This industry needs to die.

This, fuck niggers

Come up with something new fags

This this this

yeah rip

being an imsim fan is nothing but pain and suffering

fuck this gay earth

If something like Doom Eternal can be a big hit, despite being pretty fucking weird in many ways, and also difficult, then it must be possible to find an audience for Deus Ex.

when is somebody going to convince me this game is good and better than Deus ex so my faith in imsims can be rejuvenated.

actually, we can just settle this right here and now.

every SINGLE imsim has this problem. the first imsim to somehow make actual interesting gameplay out of restricting this problem, or allowing it to continue to exist, will be a top 10 game of all time. (part of the reason I'm even seeking this again is because I recently played TotK again which I had previously thought of as the end to all imsims. But open world fatigue sprung out of no where and hit me SO hard that after beating one single enemy camp, saving the game. Loading it again and having all the enemies respawn, I quit and deleted the game)

and that problem is....the game gives you so many meaningless and redundant options that it discourages seeking out alternative routes, solutions, methods, and results in an abundance of wasted and uninteresting space. Especially because fundamentally the game can't actually design routes to be too unequally difficult, or demanding of your brain, because they all have to be possible routes based on your "choices".

what this essentially means, is that whenever you're met with a problem, if you can't solve it the straightforward way, or in reverse, if you can't solve it the atypical way. You can just solve it a bunch of other meaningless stupid shallow ways. Especially because a lot of the interactivity in these games is actually super overblown, and not nearly as creatively utilized as claimed (more often than not, literally just stack a vent) and that was the sense in which TotK beat all imsims for me, it's still a brain-dead game (videogames are so disappointing man) but it had much more varied and creative solutions to certain problems. Simply because it has way more interfacing systems and mechanics. But it's the definition of wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.

The Deus Ex sequels are not ''imsim'', they are just consolified slop

and your basis for this conclusion?

They're consolified just like any other modern multi-platform game basically, but they're still imsims and enjoyable ones.

please god no
just let it rest in peace

No. We need a conclusion for Adam

deus ex can't get a publisher but tryhard art slop like South of Midnight (just using that as a super recent example) gets first party shilling from Microsoft

The conclusion is you move on
you will live without it, you do not "need" a videogame

the post credits scene was enough of a conclusion for me
the real adam died at panchaea

They should try Nintendo.

Stored in versalife vault*
fixed

Yeah, can anyone explain this shit to me?

read first few lines, get ready to post WE ARE SO BACK

read the last

well...at least they're trying!

every SINGLE imsim has this problem

You havent played neither Thief nor System Shock 2.
You also type like a total faggot and I'm making a mistake by giving you attention.

forgot obligatory webm

Its less imsim and more sandbox than anything, no obstacle in IW, HR, or MKD required any amount of thought or particular way if playing. You can 100% the game without even really getting engaged or caring about what you're doing. Original DeusEx required you to use some neurons in places.

Fortnite and zoomtards

Black rock doesn't want to fund a game about themselves.

highschool me sending an outline for a new game to their company vie facebook messages

Had no clue about how hesitant companies were about fan ideas due to a history of it turning into a mess

Dead
HR's dlc explicitly states long term stasis isn't viable when you go in the pod

imsim except you can't play it however you want

Good idea, somebody should also make a platformer where you can't jump and a puzzle game without puzzles.

After what Newell did with Half-Life 2 I need some kind of catharsis

Given players missed most of the story in MD because they explicitly missed one of the core elements of the game (and series to a point) I think it is for the best the series stays dead.

The versalife container?

implying modern deus ex wouldn't be #137 on that list

Real shit for a second, do people actually think like this? That they "need" any kind of entertainment product? I can't imagine the kind of thought process, like what, you assume you'll go into cardiac arrest unless you make physical contact with a certain video game? You'll just drop dead on the spot from vital functions ceasing?

Original DeusEx required you to use some neurons in places.

It really didn't unless you have no idea what you're doing.

Should I replay it? It's been 6 years but I still remember pretty much the entire thing.

People on Anon Babble are smarter than billionaires.
Many such cases.

Someone better pick this damn series up, you fucking cowards.

ID and Bethesda marketed the hell out of that game and were coming hot off the success of Doom 2016, its also a popular IP that everyone and their mother knows because everyone and their dead grandma played Doom or knows it from somewhere.
Deus Ex was a niche game for a niche audience, and even at the peak of its popularity and profits making with Human Revolution it was not really Call of Duty tier popular, it was a game people knew about at that time and then forgot about once the next wave of casual games or popular saga sequels came out. Not to mention it took over half a decade for a sequel for it to come out, then another half a decade for the sequel of that prequel to come out.
There is an audience for Deus Ex but publishers have to understand its not the "basketball American who wants a 3rd game for his 2 game console purchase (Maddem and FOTM Shooter #405)" type of audience that wants these games.

No one has any idea what they are doing in original deus ex
its explicitly designed that way
hence the thought required in places
The games after offer nothing of that kind of experience, your grandmother could finish the later games because she could automatically intuit exactly what needs to be done at all times in ever section of the game, there are no surprises and everything just has a olayer go through the motions

Of course not but I would like to see developers have the opportunity to finish their work instead of the entire thing ending on a sour note.

Not even that. There are a lot pieces of information spread throughout the game that give some added context or a different light on what happens in the main missions that players missed. The entire aug lives matter element of the game is misconstrued because so many players just took it at face value when a driving part of the game is to not believe everything you are told (or at least to not take it at face value). The "twist" of the prison dlc ending isn't even a major reveal if one goes looking in the base game as you would know what said ending suggests can already be done. The side mission with the harvester is a pretty big clue as well.

Hell the entire theme that runs through the entire game is control (and how it is manifested/applied) but that went over the heads of many and just assumed the game is really about a cyborg apartheid, which it isn't.

At least make Mankind Divided part 2 please. MD ended so abruptly.

I think IO Interative opened a publishing branch, hopefully they'll do it since nuHitman is basically an imsim as is.

I replayed it last year on max settings.
The game still look and play great.
The original has a ton of mods but the soundtrack alone is worth it. Make sure you have the original soundtrack.

Do they realize they can... just make a smaller game? As in, filled with content but with 6th gen era graphics.
Not that there's any talent left in Montreal capable of creating a proper Deus Ex video game. All those tranny studios deserve to be shut down lol

All things end eventually, my brother
Better to let go now and avoid having to later

fpbp

I'm talking about if you somehow missed how major mechanics worked. You can easily shoot everything in the head or knock everything out with the baton. If you come across a door you can't find a key for you can open it with an explosive or just use one of the dozens of multitools/lockpicks that are littered everywhere. The game isn't that difficult unless you refuse to understand how the basic mechanics work.

The side mission with the harvester is a pretty big clue as well.

It's been a while. You mean this one? I forgot how her personality implant works.

In Montreal you cannot legally make a team without women or homosexuals, homosexuals count as 10 women, sometimes there's no men at all, just women and homosexuals.

jumps have cutscenes

is it really this bad? lol

Yes that one. The fact that personality and memory overrides work is a big clue to adam not being who he thinks he is. While there is intentionally no real answer in game the various supporting pieces of information (body in hte versalife vault, the prison dlc and the strange new augs) casts enough doubt on adam you play as in MD being the same being who got dunked into the ocean at the end of HR.

Even if you believe he is the same person the point is there is this additional information in the game that was missed by many.

Cinematic games will be the future! In 2011.

Low-effort multiplayer slop is an order of magnitude more profitable than immersive sims

Are HR and MD actually good? They seem like a weird mixture of splinter cell blacklist with the kinda hub/open areas of Deus Ex, particularly Paris/New York with the friendly NPCs

Yes. Go play them.

they're basically stealth imsims with mild rpg elements
it's a mix of hubs where all the side missions are and more linear story sections (i.e the FEMA camp in HR or golem city in MD)

All the games except the original are shit

Save us, Phil!

Only when you're high enough to kill you.

Are HR and MD actually good?

People in here are over hyping them by a factor of a fuckton. They are shooters where you occasionally have to press the jump button or assign an aug point. Don't be fooled.

the hubs have much greater detail than the original game and more quests but there are fewer. MD actually only has Prague but there are three iterations of it

They are Invisible War but more polished.
The writing is so so.
Overall, I'd say they are alright.

theyre right in it being too niche, how would you change it up enough to attract investors? i hope they fucking follow on from MD

Honestly you can't. That would compromise them and turn them into generic FPS. I think the only way to attract people is to have an insanely good trailer like HR did. I bet that was probably what brought in a lot of sales for it

Eh, I doubt much is left of the original team that made HR and MD, I don't even care anymore

Is there a way they could just publish the shit themselves? IO Interactive does it and there was a time when Eidos and IOI were both stuck with shitty Square Enix

Ok on the bad side we might not get a another Deus Ex
but on the bad side we live in it
but on the bad side even if we did get one it will probably suck

Is there a way they could just publish the shit themselves

With what money? Kickstarter?

Whatever they made would not be Deus Ex.
Neither were HR and MD, but this time it would likely be even worse.

ok but it doesn't explain the immersion breaking cutscene

Wanting a new DX game

Not realizing that RL already is a new action packed DX game minus the fantastical augs

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

We're snoggered

It's a power you can buy or not, it saves you when dumbshit ass jumps from a large enough height to kill you. If you drop from a building without it you just die in IRT (in real time).

Where is the bright side?

RL

IOI is a much bigger company than the husk that is Eidos now

Just crowd fund the shit, god damn

Even if you believe he is the same person

The game does not go out of its way to suggest otherwise, unless you actively listen in for clues and put two and two together.
The side missions were better than the main story FFS

Just crowd fund the shit,

When has this ever worked?
system shock had to be remade like two times, kickstarter was in 2017 and full release 6 years later in 2023 - hardly a success

When has this ever worked?

Because we're getting such polished masterpieces with modern gaming publishers now?

Yeah I get it, but there's no reason for it. Immersion broken, agency gone

The side missions were better than the main story FFS

Unfortunately yeah, the main story felt unfinished and very rushed. When I got to the (London?) level where you stop the aug terrorist I was expecting it to be the halfway point.

we're getting such polished masterpieces

that wasn't the point I was making
a publisher wants at least a semi-finished commercial product that has good retun-on-investment. crowdfunding is notorious for unfinished projects. for every crowdfunded game that succeeded. (kingdom come, athologic 2, system shock) hundreds have failed.

I was expecting it to be the halfway point.

the game does set itself up like this. pacing is all over the place but it doesn't feel like the london mission is the end. I fucking despise SQueenix for leaving a half-complete deus ex game to rot only to develop capeshit instead.

hey it turned out alright

publishers aren’t willing to take on the financial risk that comes with the Deus Ex franchise

It'll sell like gangbusters, so what's the financial risk? Getting blackballed by the Illuminati?

I'm not saying it's a bad game but it was in development for 7+ years with multiple delays and was STILL incomplete at release.
we're talking about a remake, not a new game entirely or a spiritual successor to deus ex

insult the government

pikachuface when the government doesn't support you

Should have saluted the flag and knelt for black people, chud

publishers aren’t willing to take on the financial risk that comes with the Deus Ex franchise at the moment

And yet Legacy Of Kain, which is arguably more niche than DX, got a remaster collection that did pretty decent as of late, so what gives??

Name 5 games like that besides Concord

that the series was “too niche” at this stage.

If Deus Ex is too niche then the gaming industry is fucked beyond repair. Now i understand why I'm not getting the games i want to play anymore. And that's not just the immersive sim genre. Anything stealth got killed too. Why wouldn't you want to see it all burn down at this stage? what is there to look forward to?

What agency? You're going to fucking die otherwise
Getting the death screen would be pretty fucking immersion breaking

for every crowdfunded game that succeeded. (kingdom come, athologic 2, system shock) hundreds have failed.

Yeah crowdfunded games do often end up nowhere or only staying as an early access release. What do you think about The wayward realms? Its from the same guys who made daggerfall but the main thing that made me concerned was that it was crowdfunded. I wonder if it'll ever even be released

crowdfunded

wonder if it'll ever even be released

you already know the answer. the ONLY crowdfunded games that ever saw release were the ones that either had a publisher behind them OR were already close to completion

I want a Nightdive remaster of DX1

The LoK remaster was handled largely by an unpaid fan who did all the work over 5+ years as a hobby. Then they contracted and paid her to finalize it officially for them.

it would sell really well but publishers are convinced that Deus Ex is name that should sell 10 million+ for some reason
see Square Enix with Mankind Divided

Anything stealth got killed too

This shit pisses me off. The few "stealth" games that have come out in the past decade are just crappy look at the minimap/radar, or simplistic: stand in shadow and be invisible, stand in open and be visible.

Then who is he? Does cloning tech exist in-universe? I recall JC and Paul were made, not born, but they still had to spend two decades growing into adults.
If MD had been completed, I can't imagine them saying at the end "you're not Adam, you're a random guy given his memories and skills".

Okay. Where?

This, hope you guys didn't get the biochip

you already know the answer

I know the answer but don't want to accept the truth

Wrong.

Imsimbros, what games have you played lately?

Maybe ask Chinese publisher to save them

what counts as imsim these days

Psycho Patrol R

Riddick:Escape From Butcher's Bay

Video games are a vestigial oart of your life
if you would die without them, you need proper socialization, meaningful connections with people
you need friends, not video games

Nothing new I suppose. There are a few indie imsims out there that I'm reluctant to try. System Shock 2 remaster multiplayer might provide some temporary relief

dustborn
saints row reboot
xdefiant
far cry 6
wolfenstein youngblood

Nobody needs anything. Especially not other people. Let him be him.

no
you dont
especially not from nightdive
you're better off playing revision instead

Everything is bad and this would just be bad so I don't want it.

At this point to stay true to the original, the game would have to be about a secret society that's secretly working towards making everyone based and trad, and saving the world. Basically the illuminati is Anon Babble and the PC is some black trans sex worker.

Do you have anything you're doing tonight?

dustborn

Budget of a shoestring

saints row reboot

Yes

xdefiant

not purple

far cry 6

Are you thinking of New Dawn? 6 wasn't purple.

wolfenstein youngblood

Edge case at best.

No, tonight is my night to stay in and play vidya and maybe funpost on Anon Babble. I've been out every night this week and I'm oversocialized. Plus have to be up early tomorrow.

In spite of its flaws, DX:HR has a permanent spot in my 3x3. I love the original, but HR has an overwhelmingly comforting effect on me. What a shame.

It prevents death

Budget of a shoestring

literally funded by the EU

>xdefiant

not purple

actually yes, a lot of the costmetics and camo unlockables
had that shitty purple neon that a lot of slop seems to have nowadays

Are you thinking of New Dawn? 6 wasn't purple.

both games were purple, and gay, and very much pozzed

Edge case at best

still pozzed garbage at the end of the day

But gaben is busy working on HLX

Especially not other people

Around two billion years of evolution into a social species says otherwise
we lived in tribes for a reason
Video game addiction is killing him, slowly, and thebworst part is no one is around to help

It's over.

Good. MD already had a cornhead black stronk wymn as main supporting character, imagine how fucking bad it would be today.

look at the minimap/radar

stand in shadow and be invisible, stand in open and be visible

What fucking stealth games are you talking about? Names?

What's the point? if you want HD textures then two major overhaul mods exist already. Nightdive are just scamming people with the System Shock 2 remaster.

I thought Eidos Montreal just shut down

It's because imsims take a greater degree of competence to make. And if there is one thing the games industry is not known for having a lot of, it's competence.

evolution into a social species

Some members of this species kill others and live in isolation.

we lived in tribes for a reason

He lives in a city of some kind, presumably, so he is safe from wolves just fine and can find food readily

Video game addiction is killing him

Society is probably killing him much worse than any entertainment is

no one is around to help

Sounds like your "tribe" isn't worth very much then

Continue to attempt moving those goal posts, faggot. All you're doing is exposing what a fucking retard you are.

Stand in shadow t obe invisible

Thief and Splinter cell Chaos theory did it right at least

fpbp. Hyenas ($500m-$1b) and Concord ($200-$500m) got funded for a decade of development each in the same "reality" that Deus Ex 5 can't get a publisher.

We need to write a letter to the Premier of Quebec to redirect Ubisoft's funding to them.

The silver lining is that at least Eidos Montreal care with them still fighting for this despite the prior cancelations.

honestly the cutscenes flow great and aren't immersion breaking

or simplistic: stand in shadow and be invisible

I liked Thief and Splinter Cell for that. Intravenous 1 & 2 also showed the design is still viable. The only thing left in the industry is Hitman. Which is suspicion meter based, rather than shadow intensity based. It's nothing short of a miracle that the series is still going. Only thing keeping me from quitting gaming for good quite honestly.

I like the bit where the game expects you to know and care about vega but doesn't give you any information her!

one of the themes if Nier Automata was that we can't live alone
saying stuff like you did would make 2B sad. You wouldn't want to make the robot girl sad right?

I liked Detroit and Hengsha more than Prague. But i think in terms of actual design the Prague map was more open? which allowed for more freedom in approach to objectives.

Hell, even Koreans might. Neowiz invested in Colantonio's (Prey 2017) new game recently. Now Asians other than Japan are interested in these kinds of games too. At least they have more realistic sales expectations around these sorts of things.
wccftech.com/neowiz-expands-publishing-portfolio-with-wolfeye-studios-partnership/

RL

What does Rocket League have to do with Deus Ex?

any information her!

start missing words when typing myself

all of a sudden everyone else starts doing it

Dead internet theory

Nah, they've been downsizing a lot though. The only thing they are working on right now is helping out Microsoft on the new Fable game.

If it isn't a multiplayer forever game with DLC and MTX then they don't care and they literally can't convince a bank to give them money for it

It is unironically over for AAA games

Those games were made right around the time when the venture capital free money initiative was ramping up so game companies greenlight any goddamn projects they please; the new Deus Ex game was proposed right when that gravy train has passed.

literally funded by the EU

The government of Norway gave them 14 million Kroner and the EU gave them 150k Euros. That's Indie budget.

Also Rage 2 doesn't belong on that list, it's not a gay brown people game.
Gotham Knights is not brown, wonderland isn't brown, Redfall barely has any purple in that picture. Never played and it's never discussed so I don't know how gay or brown it is (it takes place in New England so there shouldn't be many.)

15 Million Kroner + 150K Euros

indie budget

what are you smoking

They scratch the itch for a the espionage spec ops corpo guy doing operator shit that I want. I'll toss them overboard the second a dev makes a better one.