why is the west so bad at making VNs
Why is the west so bad at making VNs
You dislike DDLC?
because the east knows that everyone wants sister romance, which is why it's present in a lot of VNs such as yosuga no sora, 9-Nine, Saku Saku, Angelic Chaos, Ninki Seiyuu, and more, whereas all the west has is coffin and it's more of a statement on how bad it is.
Type-Moon
Dies Irae
masterpiece
Because werstern fags always wants to break the fourth wall, be a deconstruct, or be quirky. Also VNs without routes tied to a romancable heroine tends to be shit.
it's a japanese genre and westoids just don't get what makes them work.
So true xister.
they arent even trying. joke 2 hour all ages dating sims and LE subversive anti visual novels slop is everywhere
Anybody know about Sunrider? that one looks like its trying
Someone beat me to it
because renpy enables shitter devs
Because nobody in the west cares about vns except hardcore weebs
Coffin is fun while yosuga is a bore
Tsukihime Remake
Masterpiece
Maybe I could get behind this meme if you used the original
Because VNs are wish fullfiment fantasy for lonely virgins and western devs think they are too good to write that kind of thing unironically.
the original looks like shit tho?
Starnova and Katawa Shoujo are decent.
Ayo dis nigga reading his bid game
wish fullfiment
All entertainment is wish fulfilment, who gives a shit. This type of criticism is meaningless.
Every "masterpiece" visual novel is just five hundred hours of philosophy 101, a time travel/alternate universe twist, and at least three lolicon scenes.
Because the West doesn't take VNs seriously.
mostly because art
everything in the bottom looks like trash
The original looks better in most ways, namely character design. Plus the original actually has all the routes, so you don't have to wait a decade for Red Garden to release.
five hundred hours of philosophy 101, a time travel/alternate universe twist, and at least three lolicon scenes.
Reminder that you have to read all these to even attempt understanding Dies Irae beyond a surface level:
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Beowulf by Unknown
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Chess by Stefan Zweig
Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky
Divine Comedy by Dante
Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra
Ex Libris: Confessions of a Common Reader by Anne Fadiman
Faust by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Foucault’s Pendulum by Umberto Eco
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem
Mrs Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
My Struggle by Adolf Hitler
Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs
On the Road by Jack Kerouac
Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
Paradise Lost by John Milton
Satin Island by Tom McCarthy
Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse
Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut
Story of the Eye by Georges Bataille
Submission by Michel Houellebecq
The Bible
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy
The Four Books by Yan Lianke
The Fox Was Ever the Hunter by Herta Müller
The Map and the Territory by Michel Houellebecq
The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov
The New York Trilogy by Paul Auster
The Odyssey by Homer
The Satanic Verses by Salmon Rushdie
The Sense of an Ending by Julian Barnes
The Sorrow of Young Werther by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
The Stranger by Albert Camus
The Teleportation Accident by Ned Beauman
The Unbearable Lightness of Being by Milan Kundera
The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami
To The Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf
Underworld by Don DeLillo
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
Was there any thought put into this list or was it just as many funny Anon Babble books as whoever wrote it could find
Thanks for the reading list. Haven't touched a book in a while
pretty good bait thread
what about other Light games?
Those are way more relevant than this list of books you never read
its objectively true
OELVN shitter
its weird that kohaku isn't the mastermind is the remake.
OP prefers the jap version because he needs the cuckoldry to get off. The game should have let you fuck the qt trap that cuckolds you in which case it would have been a masterpiece.
Isn't the remake missing all the far side routes, also what the fuck
the only decent VN ever made is Western
Sex with Hitler is a masterpiece, what are you talking about?
they cant do it seriously and have to make it a meme, you arent playing a vn, you are only ironically playing one
What's the western equivalent to Demonbane?
*The only decent Western VN
ftfy
/thread
Does Yosuga no Sora have generational trauma, murder, and cannibalism, or just the incest
I never really got around to reading it despite having it deep in the backlog for like 13 years
/ddlc/ - Doki Doki Literature Club #1689
failed
DDLC is certainly very successful
Andy and Leyley idk, seems to do ok
The other 2 look like shitposts
The most successful VNs are about larger than life assholes like Rance or broken messes like Shirou that aren't meant to be relatable though.
just the incest
Just very loose thematic or direct references to them in character/ability names.
Yes, it's also it's own thing that's more heavily influenced by the retarded mobage than the game its a remake of. Also, Nero got cut.
I'm so sad. I wanted, perhaps foolishly, a tsukihime remake for so many years and yet current type moon disgusts me. I think they are truly incapable of making or even copying the beautiful work that still transfixes me to this day.
And western trash like Dragon Age Veilguard and Star Wars Outlaws aren't wish fulfillment fantasies for the developers?
The only difference between Japanese games and western ones is that Japan makes games for the audience, while western studios make games for themselves.
The funniest part for me is that they revived Melty Blood, but cut all the actual Melty Blood characters and instead just added FGO servants and Saber instead. Sion got removed from her own fucking game series. Also, Sacchin continues to get cucked out of getting her own route.
says "Type-Moon"
when it's just Tsukihime
at least bash him for posting NU-Tsuki
that's just saber.
The point is not that it is wish fullfiment, it's the audience. They can never make something that unironically appeals to people who play japanese VNs.
Man, MBTL made some mistakes. Why did season 2 do that, they were on the path to victory with all the free DLC characters. Why couldn't they just contain their lust and wait until releasing Fate Type Umbra or something and throwing all their FGO shit in there. I would've even bought that like a sucker, instead they had to pollute the well.
Saber is just a Hisui clone though.
Have you seen the literacy rate in America?
Western VNs are irony poisoned
DDLC is better than anything in the top row.
Imagine English voiced VNs.
HuniePop?
Western audience is beyond the pale. You can't save it as is. Probably need a new language at this point, English is raped.
The best and canon girl brutally kills the bitch that cucked you, if you choose the NTR girl at the end it's your fault, anyway anyone who likes Aoi deserves to get cucked
Also Monika is a big NTR bait
pseudo reddit shit
decent
aoi lives on metalinguistic nightmare and (You) can't deny this
I've read like a fourth of these, so I have a fourth of an opinion.
That opinion being, "Dies Irae is a masterpiece"
Anon Babble has the coolest mecha cope
Dostoevsky was a fucking pedophile, my god his writing is beyond fucking disturbing
If she is the best girl why is she so ugly?
ugly femoids are the best bitches
The extra chapter at the end of "Demons" (originally a part of the main story/composition, but taken out of main story due to feedback) where Nikolai explains what he did (as a confession) to Tihkov was absolute peak writing