So did Nintendo flub it with the Switch 2?

he always uploads them as "mario sad switch 2.jpg" as well, I'm guessing it's a sony marketing department employee or outsourced job to try and diminish sales of their competitors, though obviously it would never work because normies will be buying the Switch 2 anyway

Don't you mean normies who don't care about online discord? People underestimated Minecraft movie with $150m projection and didn't see how huge the walk up traffic would be. A lot of video games have exceeded expectations this year and I doubt it isn't going to happen for the next new Nintendo console.

gta is worth the money
can't say the same for tendieslop like kirby that is still $80 with asset flip dlc after 3 years and has 15 hours of content
as for easlop, i think that company should have all of its headquarters and workplaces blown up hiroshima-style

I've honestly only seen people just poorfag, they feel entitled to a luxury entertainment item, and they say dumb shit like how they intend to buy the console and a stack of games for it but it's too expensive to do that.

prenderse dont matter

Ok.mofo then what matters?
You are going to attribute twitter likes or something to sales?

You're retarded if you don't think Nintendo had plenty of units available (when they already said so) based on the Switch 1 sales.

gta is worth the money

lmao even

The Switch failed to deliver what it promised—fun games. It made rehashes so common you could puke seeing the plot unfold like a swirling toilet slowly stilling itself after a flush. Fuck Nintendo

so the majority of nintendo's audience, since they had already established themselves as the poorfag's console of choice
so nice of nintendo to alienate most of their customers, just in time for gta 6 too! how considering!

I just hate nobody chimped out this hard when they made games $70

This is the part that annoys me. I have no interest in buying a Switch 2, just as I never cared about Switch 1, because I don't care about portability and nintendo has only offered overpriced underpowered hardware from the Wii onward. Especially since it's almost assured that for at least the next few years, almost all S2 games will also be releasing as S1 games, as has become the standard with cross-gen multiplats. So any games I'm interesting in playing I can just play via emulation instead, with increased resolution/performance anyway.

But the 80 dollar game thing? Nintendo are being first movers on this one. It's the same shit going back to when activision were the first to shit out a 60 dollar PC game with MW2 back in 2010. As soon as one publisher gets away with it, all the others start to adopt the practice too. A year after the S2's release, most publishers on all other platforms will be charging 80 dollars a pop as well.

You're missing the point entirely. If Rockstar did it, everyone else will do it. It's part of the plan to normalize it, you don't think there are enough companies and shareholders/investors in the background across the board and multiple companies that don't want this to happen? It was happening, no matter who pulled the trigger first, the rest will follow.

But the 80 dollar game thing? Nintendo are being first movers on this one.

anon, $80 is the same as $60 in 2015. It's called, inflation

It'll still be the poorfags console of choice, you don't seriously think the PS6 and next Xbox are gonna be cheaper do you?

People didnt care because the games didnt look fun
Mk world looks fun, is what makes 80 so bad.

15% markup for a device that's 2x the size

$80 game is the same price as a $60 with the Switch 1

i think it's a good thing
gaming should be a luxury hobby
i am gonna buy the switch 2 and mario kart for launch
it was about time we gatekept all the poorfag tendies since they are also the most brainless people in the gaming community always begging for third party ports of games from the past decade that they cannot play anywhere else

that's not how it works, but because of midwits like you, the kike publishers are able to get away with charging more for "muh inflation" even though their revenues have never been higher.

They charge whatever they're able to get away with. And the inflation narrative is how they aim to justify this. And people like you fall for it.

Difference is that Playstation consoles are generally worth their asking price. People know that's where the biggest and best games from AAA studios are going to end up, and they will look, run and play best on Playstation as they have always done.

Sony have done a fantastic job to win the confidence of consumers and as a result, people will go to that brand no matter what price they ask.

There aren't really people that think Switch 2 isn't going to sell gangbusters, right? I could not imagine setting myself up to fail like that.

It was the same as $60 in 2010 anon, people just see "bigger number, more expensive." When in reality if you could afford a game in 2010, you can afford a game now. It's not Nintendo's, Sony's, or whoever's problem housing prices and groceries have gone up since then. Games have fundamentally been the same price since 1996 based on what people get paid and the value of a dollar.

yeah, I don't remember seeing any critcism of Tears of the Kingdom at all. it's weird they drew the line at $80

that's not how it works

that's exactly how it works. There has been a lot of inflation over the past 10 years. An $80 game today is roughly the same price as a $60 game in 2015

You did not win and you were the victim of nonconsensual anal sex.

Too bad those games come out once in a blue moon and are all 3rd person walking sim movies.

Switch 2 will have a good launch ala Wii U, but it will fall off big tiime come August/September.

TotK was especially egregious given that it was just an asset flip of BotW
The Switch 2 port of BotW also being 80 dollars is especially hilarious given that it's a port of a port of an 8 year old game.

$60 for a baby game is ok.

$90 for a baby game is not ok.

then let them do it?
you think millions of people are gonna buy niggroball or shitskinball games from ea for $120?
now let's talk about wages
people use to be able to afford things back then with those wages, now most of them can't
tendieggroes are so damn stupid

they kind of are though, the games go on sale and lower in price as time goes on..
what really annoys me is you people think it's even possible to normalize high prices. how do you not understand basic economics, supply and demand? prices naturally ebb and flow with how they are selling.

And people will do the same with Nintendo just because of iconic/classic video game characters. And do not act like that isn't true. At the end of the day people want the games they want, regardless of who they come from. Also you think the PS5 Pro is worth it at $700? You could just buy a PS5 for much cheaper, but people still buy it for the minimal upscaling difference. Same type of shit with iPhones, people will buy a new version for $1200 despite the differences being so minimal that it doesn't matter at all unless they're on an extremely old variant of the iPhone like an 8 for instance. People will do the same with the Switch. And again, you're missing the point, $80 games were coming no matter what, doesn't matter if they're worth it or not or who started it, it was going to happen.

exactly what happened with the wii u and the 3ds and the gamecube and the n64, I think you are getting it

Inflation is just an indication of how much prices have gone up overtime. It's only the "same price" if wages have gone up parallel with inflation, which they have not. Hence why the cost of living is so much more now.

people didn't hate totk enough, they were still in that "ninshitdo can't do no wrong" phase
they literally got away with selling an asset flip dlc for $70 with worse gameplay that appeases the autist japniggers
and now they are gonna get away with $80 games as well

Blame the market.

people are willing to buy a product for more money

Is the company at fault only

Everybody is a cattle. They have been squeezing every fucking cent out of this hobby with speciall release, gacha, lootboxes,dlc,seasonpass,battlepass, expansions, unfinished games and 70$ dollar games last gen (atlas beingg of the first).
And you mitherfucke think they should stop now and you think people would stop consuming. Mothefucker you are late to complain. At least 6 year late.
You compaining about losing a fingir when they took your arm long ago.

you expect a company to keep their prices the same after inflation? that's what inflation is, rising prices. Of course a company will raise their price when inflation happens.

well it's not just an asset flip, it's a full on sequel to the original game with tons of content. if you're particularly generous, you can even gauge all the content from BotW that was locked behind amiibos, are actually in TotK unlockable, so it's better value.

they kind of are though, the games go on sale and lower in price as time goes on..

Anon the PS5 Pro was $700, the PS6 is likely to be $900 with $80 games, twice that of the Switch 2. And it's certainly within the realm of possibility that games may even be $90-100 instead.

you are correct

Companies like Rockstar, From Software and Capcom have been asset flipping and rehashing animations and mechanics for years. But it's only bad when Nintendo does it.

Inless something was competing with it, it will still acieve success.
But ps5 and x1 are worse products so far and let Nintendo have free reign on the handheld and console market.

it's the game companies fault other corporations and your country's government haven't raised your wages

Blame your politicians and real estate markets for not being able to afford luxury items, not the game companies, they've remained in line with inflation just fine, while others most certainly have not.

Are certain Switch 2 games $80 because they use the bigger, more expensive carts? It's just such a drastic jump, especially considering only 1 base game is $80.

Difference is that the PS6 will have the latest and greatest unmissable games and that will be the best place to play them. Can the same be said about the Switch 2, which gets 5-year-old third party games at 20fps and a Mario game?

yes, gta, famous for using gta 3's assets in gta 4!
tendies continue to prove they don't play anything besides tendieshitslop

some of you can't afford $80 games

It's literally an hour and a half of work, get better jobs.

Snoy cope thread lmao

It didnt start with totk
70$ were pushed before that

Are you implying GTA isn't the same rehashed shit every game?

Considering people buy Nintendo specifically for those exclusives, yes, the same can be said about it. Whereas Sony/Microsoft, those games can typically be bought on Steam with massively better PCs and go on sales far greater and far more than what those companies are willing to dish out a lot of the time. NIntendo is still the poorfag choice for consoles.

PS6 will have the latest and greatest unmissable games

Just like the PS5, right?

that's not how it works. Games are digital goods and are supposed to go down in price with economies of scale, larger install bases, and higher sales. We're not talking about a physical item like an ounce of gold or a big mac. We're talking about digital goods where the costs are up-front and money made on sales of digital goods with essentially zero cost per unit, sales and markets that have increased higher and higher with each gen.

This isn't the same as a contractor needing to increase prices for services because the cost of wood and nails have gone up. Publishers' profits have never been higher. They don't need to increase prices to make ends meet in that way. They increase the price because they're able to get away with it, because retards like you fall for it. Simple as

And that's also not getting into the fact that we're not comparing 80 dollar games to 50 dollar games from the 2000s. Those 50 dollar games from the 2000s were complete. 80 dollars now is just the minimum price for a half complete product that serves as a skeletal frame for further DLC charges, which only reflect the true price of the game in total. How much does Smash Ultimate cost once factoring in all the characters you need to buy as DLC, for example?

Exactly, preaching to the choir.

m-nuh snoy

tendieshitskins only know glazing nintendo's asshole and consolewarfagging
when did i say anything about rehashed gameplay? when i said asset flip, it means using assets like models
don't reply if you cannot even read sentences properly
and it's cute that you think totk has innovative gameplay, that is just the same shit from botw with mechanics from nuts and bolts kek

Just like the PS5, right?

Yes? Look at all of the top games released in the last few years. They are all big PS5 hitters and mainly played there because PS5 is THE accessible place to play them.

gta is worth the money

Imagine unironically liking that nigger slop

not taking the bait, but what kind of job pays that?

What was the first 70$ game?
What was the first dlc?
The first succesful gacha?
The first succesful season pass?
The first succesful battle pass?
The first pay to online?

Lets just be honest consumers are stupid. But also they have no reason to be smart as this is just that...a hobby.

Am I tripping? What's with these claims? When I check out new exclusives for other consoles they cost even more than $80. Do you faggots even play videogames?

Normies would pay even $1000 for a game.

They arent game people want.

which makes it even worse lmao

I refuse to support a bad PC maker tho.
See this is an ARM PC that arbitrarily locks its users away from Most common ARM software.
Even worse it only runs its own software that is intentionally designed not to work with other ARM PCs!
Its really offensive that some evil company would treat its own customers like this!

Games are digital goods and are supposed to go down in price with economies of scale, larger install bases, and higher sales.

Nintendo is at market saturation pretty much and is not gaining much economies of scale over time.

with essentially zero cost per unit

So your argument has nothing to do with Nintendo charging an appropriate price for their games. You think the entire digital market is a fraud and you think we need digital communism or something.
That's a debate you can have, but it has nothing to do with Nintendo simply raising their prices to match inflation.

80 dollars now is just the minimum price for a half complete product

The price can go as low down as "free" if they add enough lootboxes. You want complete games, you pay full price for them.

maybe because Nintendo has shown to be nothing but censoring, lawsuit-chasing kikes and haven’t made a good game in 10 years while also killing most of their IPs???????
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nigger

SWITCH 2 IS DEAD IN THE WATER
NINTENDO IS DOOMED AS USUAL
I AM NOT DELUSIONAL

You guys seriously responding to a thread that calls the Switch 1 "somewhat" of a success?

On PC I only buy 60 dollar new games when they're actually worth that price and I want to play on release. Last time I bought a 60 dollar game was Elden Ring, I believe. For everything else you can easily wait to get a heavy discount during a sale.

80 is especially bad for nintendo games, given the fact that they rarely ever get price reductions, even years later. The days of 100 dollar gamecubes with (physical) pack-in games and high quality players choice titles for 10-20 bucks a pop are long gone. The idea of nintendo being the "value" option has been long gone.

That said, Switch 2 will probably be successful because Nintendo have successfully "disnified" their brand. I don't think it will be like the Wii U where only their small diehard cult will eat that shit up.

costs more than a ps5

also less powerful

no gta 6

Switch 2 is fucked

Nintendo is too cocky
Nintendo has gone insane with greed

The switch 1 reveal was mostly skepticism whether it could succeed, not anger and disappointment.

People went into the Switch 1 with somewhat reserved expectations. The Wii U was a massive dud, but the concept of a portable device perfectly playable of playing 360-era experiences on the go and at a cheap price was novel. Plus there was nothing else that could compare to it when it was revealed late 2016 IIRC; you had the 3DS and the Vita and that was basically it. Phones were starting to take the gacha approach and gaming laptops were basically out of the realm of affordability or practicality for many.
The Switch 2's problem is that while their highlight stream was solid, every single bit of bad news came out immediately after the stream. Like how they wanted to charge $80 for a digital copy of fucking Mario Kart, about how they wanted to make a glorified interactive manual its own $10 purchase instead of a bundled game, concerns about whether or not tariffs played a key factor in the higher price point, and there's a lot more devices that are capable of playing home console type experiences for about the same price range like the Steam Deck or ROG Ally, with the only downside being battery life. It'll still do fine, but it's not going to be the juggernaut that the Switch 1 was, and the company is starting to make the same stupid mistakes all console manufacturers make after they win one console gen.

Media are shitting on it, social media is shitting on it, fans are shitting on it, the entire internet has made a meme of it.

Wow it's just like after the Switch 1 was announced! This means the Switch 2 will fail just as hard as the Switch 1...
...
oh fug

This is how we know you were still in diapers then.

not in the sense you implied stupid nigger

So did Nintendo flub it with the Switch 2?

if they did it people would be angry at them too, but we live in a world where nintendo did so they are the ones who should face the consequences.

A software engineer will make that.

>costs more than a ps5

>also less powerful

>no gta 6

You just described an average gaming PC.

It launched with one crossgen ggame,
A paid tech demo and competing against consoles that are just 50 dollar cheaper or matched its prices. It was far from skepticism.
the handeld market would eat the console one and find itslef a niche. And that still holds for switch2 since neither MS and ps want to compete against it.

But they did 70$ first.

Lets take a look at the top 3 games sold since 2020.

2020

Animal Cross New Horizons (Switch Exclusive)

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War (PS4, X1, PS5, XS, PC)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (PS4, X1, PC)

2021

Call of Duty Vanguard (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

Madden NFL 22 (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

2022

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

Elden Ring (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

Madden NFL 23 (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

2023

Hogwart's Legacy (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, Switch, PC)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

Madden NFL 24 (PS4, PS5, X1, XS, PC)

Funny how all of these best sellers are on the PS4 as well as Xbox and PC. There's no way in hell that any of them would be on here if they were PS5 only. The only games that come close in those last few years are God of War Ragnarok, Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Spider-Man 2, and Horizon Forbidden West. Meanwhile Nintendo has pretty much every Pokemon game since then released, Tears of the Kingdom, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury.

NIntendo is about exclusives still, Sony is not. Big PS5 hitters are very little these days, and the games that are considered big hitters are prevalent on other systems (some of which are PS4), and PC.

it's sold out literally everywhere else.

Stop fucking saying this. It hasn't "sold out" anywhere. A few pre-order reservations were made and they stopped taking them. This has NOTHING to do with how well is supposedly fucking "sold" you dipshit.

Tons of jobs make that anon. Even the low end of a plumber salary will make $35/hr.

100 dollar gamecubes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube
The Nintendo gamecube released for $200, which is the equivalent of $360 today.

gta is worth the money

No it isn't, no game is worth that much.

b-buh

Shut the fuck up, retard.

prender dont matter

Sure...specially after Nintendo got preparado for them

The other thing I don't think people realize is how much the Switch's success was inadvertently propped up by the Wii U being a failure. Think about it, for pretty much the first half of the Switch's lifespan, all its worthwhile games were just Wii U ports. This was a strategy that worked because, well, nobody bought a Wii U. So while almost all of those games weren't actually new, they were effectively "new" to the vast majority of switch owners.

The Switch 2, on the other hand, is coming after the success of the Switch. People who are buying it will most likely already have a Switch and already have all those games. This means Nintendo can't be as success with the same cheap and easy strategy of porting their backlog of last-gen games to the console.

Most Switch 2 games will most likely just be upgrades of Switch games, just like how most PS5 games until very recently were/are developed for PS4 too. So the question is, will the casuals who play games on Switch really slop up Switch 2 stuff? Will they shell out 500 for a new console and 80 dollars for slightly upgraded Switch 1 games? Do they care about 4k vs 720p when we're talking about people who are playing games on a dinky handheld?

Anon, it literally has sold out at even brick & mortar shops, amazon, gamestop, etc. in the UK and AUS. You don't think Nintendo sent enough units to fucking UK and AUS of all places? Get real.

A PRE ORDER
IS NOT
A SALE

A PRE ORDER
IS REGISTERED INTEREST

How fucking hard is that for you to understand?

Well part of the Switch's success was also it being a portable handheld and Quarantine. Quarantine helped massively, especially with Animal Crossing dropping during that.

gangbusters

It'll do 3DS numbers life time, don't kid yourself.

I'm referring to how gamecubes were frequently sold for 100 dollars with a pack-in game during the second half of that generation. Do you also think I'm saying new games were sold for 20 bucks? No, but players choice titles were if you wanted to wait a ~year after release.

stuff back then actually got price cuts after release. Modern nintendo never drops prices on anything.

which sucks, but they had more of a justification. it definitely costs more to develop ps5 games than ps4 games. switch 2 is still a decade behind the competition technologically. maybe you could make the argument that their games deserve to charge as much as the competition because of their quality, but from a budget perspective switch 2 games are still below ps5 and series X games.

And what happens when those sales finalize and it's still sold out come June? You still gonna be like "Well they only sent 10 Switch 2s!" You probably will because you're being a retard and don't realize that the vast majority of people who pre-order are going to finalize their purchase and actually have it counted as a sale.

You don't think Nintendo sent enough units to fucking UK and AUS of all places?

maybe.

They actually won big. They're effectively the only console system still in the market so they can do whatever they want.

Playstation and Xbox have no games.

There isn't plenty of anything available & there hasn't been since covid retard

NTA but while you aren't wrong about COVID, the Switch was already a huge success before then. It definitely helped for sure though, that and the long lifespan of the console and the amount of physical and digital releases there were and still are to play.

they had a justification

Oh now you are pulling that card you fucking shill

And companies were fighting greatest hits/player's choice for years. Sony and Nintendo both hated that shit. Just like they hated games being rented, borrowed, etc. They're companies/businesses, they want to provide a product that will sell and maybe you'll have some fun with it. They couldn't give any fucks whatsoever. This is true for all video game publishers, devs, etc. Even our beloved Steam doesn't really give a fuck at the end of the day.

Inflation isn't real you dumb fucking retard

I predict 7-8 million for the first year. Switch and PS5 did 14 and 15 respectively I think.

it's already selling out it's gonna do great

I see consoles, games, toilet paper, eggs, etc. all the time. Stop living in Europe.

I'm referring to how gamecubes were frequently sold for 100 dollars

You're referring to secondhand market stuff because that's your experience buying gamecubes at a way later date.

The Gamecube was $360 for a console without a built-in-screen, built-in-battery, which was basically a glorified disk drive.

Sure, but the point is that the Switch already scratches that itch for portable games. Switch 2 won't be as big a draw as Switch 1, since these people already own a Switch 1.

What is the draw of Switch 2?
Games with higher performance/resolution? People don't play handheld games for their graphics and power.
Nintendo exclusives? All these games are going to be on Switch 1, the system these people all already own.

I thinknit will do the same as switch and ps4. Switch 1 didnt explode until its second year as pandemic was looming. Year 2 and 3 wont be as good but still better than x1 and ps5.

I don't like it, but at least they had an argument. What's nintendo's argument? You'll buy it anyway?

jews totally aren't doing artificial scarcity to keep up interest and prices in the wake of $90 games, trust me bro

The moment a new Mario/Zelda is announced, especially a new 3D Zelda that isn't just an asset flip of BotW is when we'll see the Switch 2 actually pop off. You all know it's true.

It was a terrible argument and nobody belived them and still ate it.
Just like whatever argument Nintendo can come up with. Hell they can even tell yout the same excuse since they are doing 4k now.

Nintendo made so much money off the Switch 1 that they could probably fuck up for 2-3 entire generations with poor sales and not give a flying fuck.

Yeah, but everyone else is releasing 4k games with way better graphics for $70

Media aren't shitting on it hard enough. Access media are still shilling and trying to create fomo buying

People were bitching about the 300 USD price for an underpowered tablet at the time. The problem are the games, they're too expensive.

for $70

You're in for a very rude awakening when the PS6/Xbox T-1000 are announced.

Dragon dogma and mhwilds shit performance show that isnt true.
The market just dont care.

No they can't, their investors would eat them alive if the line stops going up

I'm not talking about secondhand market you dumb zoomer. In 2003 I bought a new gamecube for MSRP of 100 dollars
cnet.com/tech/gaming/nintendo-cuts-gamecube-price/

Later on a got a second gamecube in 2005 that was bundled with Pokemon XD, a then-new game itself worth 50 dollars. There were similar bundles for gamecubes with everything from mario kart to RE4.

Comparing a badly marketed console with a recognizable one

Reminder that those that are the loudest are the vocal minority in most cases. This is true of the Switch 2 as well.

That didnt stop with wiiu and 3ds.

more schitzo hypotheticals because you don't want to hold nintendo accountable.

No, I think a lot of the people complaining will run out and buy it as soon as its available anyways. It's just good hustle to complain about shit in the attention economy. I say this as someone who skips pretty much every Nintendo console (because they are for kids)

Also i recall that was only for a few retailers. You could still orden wiius

Nintendo doing it is just as fucking stupid. But don't act like the rest wont follow suit, or wouldn't have pulled the trigger themselves all the same. If any of you truly believed video games would stay $70 or ever go down to $50-60 again then you are complete retards.

All video games are for kids.

The Gamecube was considered a failure back then and a massive flop. Small-sized disks for some reason.
While the Playstation had backward-compatibility and took regular disks, and could even play movies and shit if I remember.

Contrary to popular belief, Mario Kart does not sell consoles. It's what you buy when you already have a Nintendo console. If it moved consoles, MK8 would have saved the Wii U and Double Dash would have saved the Gamecube.

The people want mainline Mario and Zelda and Nintendo showed neither. Those are their system sellers, so there's no fucking hype. The Switch had BotW going for it and Metroid is still niche as fuck, your average person isn't drawn to Prime 4 like they would be Zelda and Mario.

Cope

wiiu existed pre total kike infestation and 3ds was only bad in the first year or two

They weren't doing too hot during that time. 3DS was a failure to launch and only turned itself around after they slashed the price from 250 to 170 (crazy that they originally wanted to sell it for the same price as a Vita despite having much shittier hardware). Wii U was abysmal and essentially caused Nintendo to have a "soft exit" of the home console market, consolidating all effort into a single portable successor to the 3DS rather than having separate divisions for home and handheld.

Also keep in mind that during times of mediocre sales like with the gamecube, they were able to keep themselves propped up with phenomenal sales of the GBA, for instance.

But don't act like the rest wont follow suit

Sure they will. Nintendo should be blamed for raising prices across the industry. The only thing we can do to prevent this is boycott switch 2 to send a message that we won't accept higher prices.

People are pretty hyped about DK and Duskbloods from what I've seen. Particularly DK.

I still didnt watch the switch direct and I didnt even knew there was a direct a week before it lol
zero hype

While I agree, you know that isn't going to be realistic. It's the same shit with mobile games and whales. If the 1% will give them more money in the long run than the 99% then who cares.

What tranny echochamber cares about DK? It's a completely dead series

No, it's realistic. Wii U happened. All it would take for it to happen again is all the weak willed tendies to grow a spine.

Have you seen the amount of people outside of Anon Babble with like/dislike ratios and people actually watching the gameplay footage and talking about it? It's pretty substantial considering it was just announced. Especially for a dead series.

Didn't it sell well enough because of Super Smash Bros and Windwaker?

The Wii U failed for a lot of reasons, and I mean a lot. The Switch 2 wont sell as much as the Switch, but it certainly wont be a Wii U even if a boycott happens.

Duskbloods has negative hype ever since the PvPvE announcement and subsequent interview with Miyazaki where he mentions that you have to play predetermined characters and that they're given predetermined roles when the match starts, it's antithetical to what people want out of souls games.There was MASSIVE hype on the initial reveal that immediately deflated. DK doesn't have the same level as hype as a mainline Mario or Zelda would, people know DK but they aren't buying DK games like they do mainline Mario and Zelda, they don't need to go out and immediately but the new Donkey Kong game because they probably weren't even buying the old ones. Even a new Kirby game(not DLC) would have more hype behind it.

In general the best way I can put it, is that the console right now has priced out most casuals yet the big launch title is their most casual friendly franchise. They don't have the big games for enthusiasts despite the enthusiast price tag.

This thread again

There's a lot wrong with the switch 2 as well. It goes well beyond the price

We're gonna see this thread for the next 2 years anon. I wouldn't be surprised if the Switch 2 somehow sells 100 mil units and we still see this thread about how its a flop and a failure.

Market is different so I don't think it'd play out the same way. Wii was successful, but it was a flash in the pan with how they sold those things to soccer moms and grandmas to play wiifit/wiisports. But that install base was always going to be a paper tiger who would evaporate, rather than move on and buy nintendo's next console. Which is why the Wii U was only adopted by the small pool of diehard ninty drones that held on from the GC days.

Modern nintendo is a different beast. They're more like the apple or disney of the vidya market, where they've poured more of their energy into expanding their cult of personality and creating a much larger base of people willing to slop up whatever mediocre shit they pump out, so long as it has mario on the box.

granted I dont think those hyped for Duskbloods realize it's multiplayer centric

GTA bad 'cuz mainstream :(

Wow another annual $70 Yakuza slop, please take my wallet xD

console right now has priced out most casuals

That is exactly the problem everyone refuses to recognise
What retard parent would buy their lil timmy a 80-90 bing bing wahoo when he can play fortnite or minecraft for free on the phone? Only the biggest manchildren would routinely shell up this much for games and then kiketendo will kvetch that they don't sell tens of millions of games anymore

I know this isn't possible and would never happen. But I do wonder if they said the price is: your kidney. That's it. You MUST give your kidney and only then can you have it.
You gotta wonder how many would do it and how large the playerbase ultimately would be.

It would be fine if it was just multiplayer centric like Nightreign but if it has actual enforced pvp this shit is dead on arrival like with the rest of souls pvp, especially on switch when souls pvptrannies are all pc

lol

The same parents that buy lil timmy the newest iphone and spent $45 dollars on 3 subs and 3 sodas at a Subway.

Even for the console, a $200 Lite is Christmas gift territory, so is the $300 base model. $450? God, I wish my parents would have spent that much on a Christmas present for me when I was a kid.

"Everyone" is shitting on it but they're still going to buy it. The fomo will kick in, even if le prices don't drop. Internet nerds love feeling a sense of community and they derive joy from banding together and repeated the same phrases. Its basically what fags do at protests.

Anon kids got the 360 at christmas or their birthday for $400 at launch, they go PS3's for $500. $450 isn't that big of a deal.

So 0.01% of them?

I don't get posts like yours, do you not interact with the programs that cell providers provide? A new phone is free(+tax and activation fee). The parents pay $100 every 3 years and the kid gets a new top of the line iphone.

This.
I'll complain about it and am doing so, but I will ultimately buy it because I'm a retard.

HELLO SARS, DO NOT REDEEM NINTENDO, BUY PS5! PS5 GAMES DEVELOPED BY THE BEST SUBCONTINENT SUPER POWER

You'd be surprised anon. Like heavily surprised. A buddy of mine owns a few Subways for instance, the amount of money and families that regularly eat out there and what they spend is actually asinine. People don't really think with their brains or care what they're spending. It's why so many are in debt, don't understand how credit cards work, and are poor. They'll buy whatever they want however they can get it.

the parent hypotetical

We did this shit on the switch too. Because belive it or not they can buy both.

Not really, Switch 2 was kinda dooned from the start receptionwise BECAUSE Switch 1 was successful, because most people (Who care piratebros, you don't cause you be Arr'ing everythimg anyway.) already own switch, do now they are getting a "bad deal", bu comparison everyone skipped yhe WiiU so the Switch was a "good" deal, unless you already owned a WiiU (ha...ha...).

It's made in Vietnam lol. Trump just set 50% tariffs on Vietnam. Japoids didnt expect that move. What you get for waiting years and years to release an outdated console.

Rich kids exists, yes. But you can't reach 150 million sales with only rich kids. The Switch was priced to move and it moved. The Switch 2 isn't. It's more expensive than the cheap PS5($399 + Astro Bot) and Series X, let alone the Series S. It's legitimately the most expensive console on the market other than the PS5 Pro. I'm sure some kids got a PS5 Pro for Christmas but lmao if you think that's common.

Also the 360 Core was $300, that was something even middle class kids could get for Christmas.

Don't care, gonna buy it because I have the money to easily blow and can make that money back in a fucking day. Gonna have fun with it too while you guys continue to bitch and moan on Anon Babble for another 20 years straight.

rich kids don't play gaymes.

Monthly payments exist. And will be used.You really doubt the average creddit card user bad spending habits.
Only issue right now is tariffs but that will affect not just Nintendo.

NTA but Vietnam already caved and they're fixing that this week or next.
You don't seriously believe only rich kids could afford the 360/PS3 for Christmas right? Even my family could afford that shit and I certainly wasn't rich.

those consoles are old as fuck

Pretty much the only bad thing about the Switch 2 reveal was the prices, it was excellent otherwise (no, a few rare fans here seething at the new DK design doesn't count).

The Wii U reveal was so bad some people straight up didn't know the thing was a new console.

You don't seriously believe only rich kids could afford the 360/PS3 for Christmas right? Even my family could afford that shit and I certainly wasn't rich.

A lot of kids only got those after cheaper models were out, especially in regards to the PS3 where sales exploded with the Slim. The Wii also outsold both because it was cheaper.

Kids are not the only users most of switch users are innthe 20-30 age range.
Most people are fine with the console prices given all the whistles it has is just mk9 the issue.

I mean he's not wrong. People blow their money on tons of stupid shit on a daily basis, look at how many of them likely have Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, etc. then still complain about how gas is expensive, when they could just cancel that stuff and use that money towards gas for instance.

People will blow their money if they want it, it's actually just that simple. His phone analogy is kind of dumb however.

Tariffs are not going down this was made clear countless times it's about a structural change - build your stuff in America or fuck off!

So the same thing people said they would do for $70 games? How did that work out?

Had a 360, PS3, and a Wii

Got the 360 and Wii at launch and PS3 a year later

Apparently I was rich

Damn, news to me. Wonder where my fancy cars, free credit cards, trust funds, inheritance, boats, and mansions went.

Consoles made sense in 1995
They don't make sense in 2025

We have something called the "Personal computer" now that didn't exist back then. The only reason to buy a console is 90's nostalgia, it's obsolete

Nintendo brought it to us way too soon. $70 games have only been around in the modern gaming landscape since 2020 when the current consoles released. It’s only been 5 years and it’s already going up another 10 because of Nintendo. Doesn’t matter if someone else would have eventually done it first, Nintendo DID

If they dont have a ps5 or x1 by now they ain interestelar in one my dude.
And if they have one they can still own a switch2. 70% of switch owners owned a current ggen console or a PC because the library and features dont overlap.

if we tax people then suddenly out of nowhere jobs will appear with people possessing decades of experience in a field career that hasn't existed for a century

sure, and I have a bridge to sell you

The Vietnam situation is different as those will drop to 0% if Trump gets access to the region and their ports more readily as a means to counter China's sea aggression.

literally almost a normal generation(6 years)

only 2020

Whish Sony and xbox fans had complained back then

I had a PC in 1995.

gta is worth the money

post arm

why don't you complain now? you want to pay more money for a technologically inferior product?

to play solitaire maybe

yes turdie, serving the american people is a privilege that can be withdrawn or that you will have to pay for going forward. only yourself to blame for being a shithole turdie and needing US dollars to live.

What should our pre-cope be when it doesn't flop like the Pii U, sisters?

Anon you do realize stuff like Dark Forces, Warcraft 2, Doom, Command & Conquer, etc. all were around in 1995 right?

Its crazy how they dropped the ball and lost the momentum after what was a solid direct. Hopefully they'll reconsider the game prices and make those tech demos free.

haha funny kiddy game slop

I do think this is the biggest issue
There is no killer app
Imagine the Switch launch without BotW

I’m buying the range day 1 as I design 3D printed accessories for Switch. It’s a tax right off for me so I don’t care if it’s $800 and $120 a game. The same with all these YouTubers and “influencers” They had the hype machine going the morning after all praised it. It’s after the backlash on the price later that afternoon they switched gears. It would be fun to see it backfire like the Wii U on them but you know around Christmas every kid will want one and they’ll be nowhere to be found. People begging in groups for a reasonable price and lines all night outside Best Buys to find out at 5am the store only has 9 units. So the $450 or whatever it will be is going to be meaningless with eBay and Marketplace prices.

People will say it's mario kart but the graphics are kinda ugly.

It basically has it's Odyssey, it's just DK instead of Mario. Not as much of a selling point sure, but it's basically the Odyssey we're getting right now.

You open the flood Gates now i have to deal with them letting get away because even if Nintendo changed its mind the ither would still push for it even if Nintendo failed.

I'm curious as to why you guys think Mario Kart isn't being enough when 8DX was the biggest game on the Switch

Because Anon Babbleirgins are fucking retarded, what else is new.

nobody wants mario movie dk slop
dkc is the only real dk

It looks like a B-tier game.
To me it's always been the game I'd buy when I already had the platform. I don't see it as a system seller, but perhaps I'm wrong. We'll see soon.

You dealing with the floodgates would be you paying $70. $80 is a whole new level of greed.

even if Nintendo changed its mind the ither would still push

wrong. if nintendo failed the rest of the industry would be scared shitless to try this again anytime soon.

It has a new mariokart with a Mario 3d odysey with dk paint next month.
Follow by prime, arceus, hyrule warriors,kirby air ride. And this is with the games marketing and ads not starting yet.

because mario kart 8 dx has better graphics than world.

people complaining about the game prices

games are still $70 digital which is what the average consumer buys anyway

And nothing changed.

The rest of the industry dont care about Nintendo because the rest of the industry is buying cod, fc and manden at any price.
This is what people dont realize, they will still rise the price with or without Nintendo doing it.

They have no games to port from previous Nintendo consoles like they did with games from Wii U.
It'll have games that were on PS4 and Xbox One, but who wants to pay $80 for those?

new releases are $80 digital

That's Europe only because you faggots are cucks.

Now that is delusional

If graphics mathered Nintendo consoles would be dead by now

Not like this is true anyway

wrong

1986 Nintendo brings the video game market back from a crash

2025 Nintendo causes the next game crash with expensive games prices

Pottery

Yeah is actually cheaper in france for sole reason

The only way it could fail is if it ends up being 1000 dollars before taxes.

Nope.jpg, you can literally check Nintendo's site and see shit like DK and Kirby at $70 digital, only Mario Kart is more expensive.

it'll have games that were on PS4 and Xbox One, but who wants to pay $80 for those?

A significant number of Nintendo players only have Nintendo consoles. I think Elden Ring for instance will sell a boat load.
I think we'll get some shit like Galaxy Remastered. They love their ports.

literally admits to being wrong

gets more stuff wrong

he thinks this is actually gonna cause the crash

Delusional as hell.

Nope. 70% of switch owner own other consoles or PC.

think it matters more they're portable and not on a steam deck than that they're nintendo players desu

It’s going to do fine. There was going to be empty outrage no matter what. The presales are already saying everything

Reminder this took 3 seconds to find.

Tendies are cult members and the system will do fine. We live in a gay fucking world.

Every cunt owns a PC, that doesn't mean they buy games for it.

Im just amazed at the quanity of missinformation surrounding this.
It will just make the real outrage over mk8 lose validity

Snoys our response?!

Kys

parents aren't buying their kids new iphones. Shit, they don't even buy themselves those, since they get them on contract. Parents give kids their old phones

there is no inflation. switch2 has a higher value than switch1 and that added value must be reflected in the price, otherwise of you want the price to be the same while the value of the good is higher then you have deflation.
the switch2 is bigger, has more materials, more cost, better performance, bigger chips, more features, ... so of course the price must be higher.

here are all the prices from walmart
walmart.com/browse/switch-2-hardware-and-software/0/0?_refineresult=true&_be_shelf_id=7433688&search_sort=100&facet=shelf_id:7433688&povid=ets_switch2_tto

This is right they dont give them Pones.
They do give them tablets tought and many switches because those are tablets

because games were 60 bucks for the longest time. people didn't like it but they could understand why the price was bumped up meanwhile 70 bucks has barely settled as the new standard and nintendo is raising it once again.

I'm pretty sure Mario Kart is actually at least $80

And those are physical copies anon. Physical copies in the US are $80, Digital are $70. I'd believe Nintendo's actual website before anybody else.

Hope it flops

It'll do 3DS numbers, Anon Babble will shitpost about it being a failure for years, etc. Rinse, repeat.

Correct, Mario Kart is more expensive for whatever weird ass reason compared to the rest of the games.

Dk game cost cheaper because it's a small game and only 10 gb. People are going to be so disappointed when it comes out

wrong. all the prices listed there are the same as the prices listed for digital copies on the nintendo website

Literally every game on the system is that price barring Mario Kart and non-US prices.

they could understand

How?
Games are more incompleted and dlc rinden than before. People were mad but they were willing to pay still for a product they wanted.

The nintendo switch 2 version of games are 80$.

literally got proven that that wasn't the case

Otherwise prove it yourself. We're waiting.

DK Bananza is Switch 2 only and listed at $70 digital.

lies because he can't accept reality

sad

Yeah because the literal screencap is lying. Meanwhile you've posted nothing. Concession accepted, have a nice day.

It’s not going to flop. I’m just curious as to why people are raging about the price when they haven’t addressed concerns with the original Switch.

flimsy, unreliable hardware

dogshit online services

can’t purchase retro games

Give us a video montage of the Switch 2 getting beat to hell (and living). Kill NSO (make a free option). Sell retro games through the digital shop for reasonable prices (GameCube being no more than $10 a pop). I know games will eventually come, though it remains to be seen how many of the 1st/2nd party lineup will actually be good this time around. I don’t have faith in the product, however.

There isnt a ns2 version.
Is a sw1 with upgrade code. If you own the game already you can just pay the upgrade. For newer releases that is at max 70 (arceus and mp4) as is 60 of the original plus 10.
We can argue that 10-20 upgrade is too much but dont go telling lies.

Real talk tho, Nintendo games do drop in price a little bit. You can get TOTK for like 50 bucks right now.

So I think their strategy here is to release their games for 70-80$ at launch so they can later be sold for the standard 60-70$.
Will it work? Only time will tell.

Nintendium ran out with the Wii sadly.

Who are you quoting?

The walmart listing clearly has all the prices listed. Unless walmart is wrong switch 2 games are going to cost $80 dollars

Clearly they're wrong when Nintendo's own site says otherwise.

somewhat of a success

is that what you call something that's right about to top the number 1 best selling console of all time?

Where on the website does it say the only switch 2 game that will cost $80 is mario kart?

Anons think like EA Investors, if it doesn't sell 80 million in its first 3 days then it's a failure.

Is better to buy used for them.
They never put them below the prigonal cost unless there is a temporal sale going.
just buy a used kirby or in the same store search for a kirby sw1 game for 40 bucks and then buy the upgrade.
For kirby and Mario party are ways to make shit cheaper and mp4 and arceus are the "industty standard" 70.
Only issue is Mario kart.

They need to find a new source. Hardware quality / durability used to be a defining part of Nintendo’s brand. You could count on a console / handheld / controller lasting decades. Now? Not so much.

By not showing dk being 80

so dk being $70 proves that everything, but mario kart, will also be $70?

All of this makes me extremely curious to see how they price Tomodachi and RH.
I'm guessing $60 and $50, hopefully.

dk is 10 gigs

odyssey was 6

Dam. Game must be packed

You got btfo

Yeah. You have confirmation of eldenring and cyberpunk being 70 and sf and braverly default being 60 and 40.
The sw2 version fo sw1 games are just bundles of the sw1 with the respective paid upgrade.

I dont think it will be the only 80 game we will ever seen tough im sure the next main zelda will be 80 given that totk was 70. So Nintendo is doing premium prices for specific games but they aint the standard to follow.

Covid didn't happen until three years after launch

Probably 60 + upgrade.
As other sw1 games.

Quarintine is when the shit exploded in sells.

I dont think it will be the only 80 game

thank you for your concession. I'm sure ports from other systems with $70 games will have price parity on switch 2, but going forward there is no reason to assume nintendo won't charge $80 whenever they think they can get away with it.

this time fromsoft is doomed

do you ever get tired of this

The PvP community in Souls is smaller than my damn dick.

same as it ever was

It is Nintendo's second worst selling home console at barely over 20 million and the failure of it was a big reason Iwata pivoted to their blue ocean strategy.

I ask again, do you ever get tired of this?
It's been three years and what has all of your seething amounted to?

But it wont be the standard. Just like how sw1 has only 70 dollar game.
That is my point, the way people are pushing this notiom make it sounds that every games is gonna be 80 which is false. What Nintendo considers premium is remain to be seen but there is obviously something else going with mk9 given it has also a direct.

Why

*how sw1 has only one 70 dollar game

Nintendo picked the absolute worst fucking time to launch the Switch 2 holy shit

Do you think that there's a huge market for a PvP focused FromSoft game? When the most downloaded ER mod with 9 million downloads removes PvP from the game? At least on the Switch 2 they don't have to worry about RCE this time but god damn.

The 360 and PS3 got multiple price drops over their lifetime, it's questionable if the Switch 2 will ever drop in price. The original Switch didn't get any price drop and the PS5 has gone up in price in most regions of the world.

Nothing was stopping Rockstar from charging nearly 100 bucks for GTA 6. They are gonna do it regardless.

Pushing for $80 video games when we never really even finished settling on $70 as a new standard price seems weird and aggressive, and I can't say I'm happy about it. That said, if paying $80 upfront is the price to ensure games aren't made with gacha shit, piecemeal DLC, battlepasses, etc. then I guess I'm not opposed. That's effectively just being honest about how much the game costs, instead of selling the game for $60 and then nickle-and-diming players for another $20-$30 for the real, complete game. But if Nintendo starts trying any of these scammy business practices to take even more of my shekels after asking $80 for the game, then they can fuck right hell off.

I don't think $450 is an unreasonable price for the console. It's certainly not a bargain, but I don't think it's a ripoff, either. That said, we've yet to see how Nintendo is going to react to the tariffs. Nintendo might be willing to eat some of the tariff cost, but I'd he surprised if they're willing to eat all of it. I think some of that is going to get passed on to distributors, who will almost surely pass it on to their customers.

I bought a Wii-U, I'm not buying a Switch 2. Nintendo Land was unironically a better launch title because at least it justified the new console. Mario Kart World looks worse than MK8 because it fell for the open world meme and they haven't shown a single thing that justifies the open world yet.

That is my point, the way people are pushing this notiom make it sounds that every games is gonna be 80 which is false

Let’s not absolve nintendo of any blame for this

didn’t announce pricing for any of this

MKW is not only their first game but also premium, which would make people believe it to be their new standard

Frankly this should’ve been addressed from the get-go. Yea it would’ve been a bitter pill to swallow, but better have that ironed out than leading to this miscalculation. I mean, you're very first game being $80 is gonna make people think they’re all gonna be $80, what you expect?

I bought a Wii-U

Man I feel sorry for you

It's werid to think there will be people playing cyberpunk for the very first time on the switch 2.

it'll literally sell dozens of millions and normalize $80-90 games. it's an unwinnable war

It really wasn't that bad as long as it wasn't your only platform, Nintendo were a lot more generous and straight up gave free games.

I’m guessing the idea is that they’re big ticket games.

true
The Wii-U has no game

more games that Switch 2

every game from the Wii-U got ported to switch 1

Yea, so now they have nothing to port to the Switch 2 besides $10 upgrade fees. Enjoy Wii-U 2.

Lmao suck Nintendo off harder

I am just waiting to see what Nintendo announces as its Switch 2 exclusive holiday title. Could be MM3, could be a 3D Mario. Metroid and Pokemon being cross gen deflates incentive to purchase the new system for Christmas.

mario odyssey was 5 gb retard