FORTEEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT US DOLLARS FOR A PS5 PRO BECAUSE THEY'RE MADE IN CHINA
THE FIRST $1000+ CONSOLE LMAO
FORTEEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT US DOLLARS FOR A PS5 PRO BECAUSE THEY'RE MADE IN CHINA
Adjusted for inflation the Atari cost almost $1000
Nothingburger.
It's gonna be real funny hearing the absolutely retarded excuses amerifats are gonna make in a few years.
we are winning bros
the optimal time to make deals is right before tariffs are implemented or right after
if he takes like 6+ months to make a deal it's going to be a fucking depression
Dear Leader just makes me grind harder
Thank you, Dear Leader
Work sets you free
anon, the us dollar is going to drop so much it'll be more than a neo geo was after inflation (like $2000 lmao)
Based, Kill sony.
the ironic thing is the fact that tariffs are painful illustrates the catastrophic problem that trump is trying to arrest before its too late to even try, but normies are too dumb to realize it
NOOOOOOOOO MY BING BING WAHOOOOO WE NEED TO STILL HAVE EVERYTHING MADE IN CHINA THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE MADE ANYWHERE ELSE, WE NEED SLAVE CHILD LABOR FOR MY BING BING WAAHOOOOO
Oh no an opportunity to buy the dip on a company with a complete global monopoly on an irreplaceable good its over bros the billionaires won
Scalpers are gonna eat good
Stockpile PS5 pros
Sell them on ebay
Make more money then Sony because nobody wants to buy them officially
all those shitposts about switch 2 being more expensive
it ends up being the least expensive console because PS5 and Xbox's are made in China
lmao
Apparently sony makes SOME of their consoles in japan, but you can't just go "scale it up" when you snap your fingers.
They COULD use the china consoles for the rest of the world and send japan ones exclusively to the US to keep it under $1000, but it'd result in a way lower stock level
this nigger thinks shops pay 700 for a PS5 pro and sell it at $0 markup lmao.
this nigger thinks the tariffs will stop at 104% lmao.
They're already making excuses now, Anon. MAGA are now saying rising costs are a good thing because things may get better in 5 years (they won't).
Isnt the passthrough rate on the China tariff only 25%?
>all those shitposts about switch 2 being more expensive
>it ends up being the least expensive console because PS5 and Xbox's are made in China
kek
the absolute state of Anon Babble
All they have to do is ship the console to some other country, put the final screw in and then label it as "made in Vietnam" or whichever country they choose. I put Vietnam here because that's what a ton of Chinese companies already do.
They think billionaires will feel the squeeze before them. They aren’t ready for $25 eggs and $3500 for a studio
make your shit in china for pennies
charge 300% more for profit
it works
trump shuts down china
everyone has to make their shit in america
steal all of ukraines precious metals
force taiwan to make chips in america or be surrendered to china for genocide
europe bending the knee as fast as they always do
countries already begging for a 0% tariff both ways
only holdouts are mexico and canada, 2 of the most retarded nations in human history
what's the problem? trump wins as always, people i hate go bankrupt forever, the slop industries die, and life goes on for the little guy who never had a shot anyways.
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He's specifically going after countries for that, thats why he isn't letting vietnam do a 0% tariff deal yet
its a clusterfuck, he's doing a lot of stuff past presidents should have done and a lot of retarded shit, all mixed together all at once
Imagine buying a $1000 decoration piece that doesn't have games
implying not only the most retarded of retards would have purchased that anyways
down 20%
up 3%
so sick of winning right guys
0 games 0 dollars, sony always one step ahead baby
Americans be like
I want to work 12 hour long shifts in sweatshops I hate OSHA and I love child labor
they already do that in the south
PLEASE PLEASE IT'S TOO MUCH WINNING IT'S TOO MUCH
Based!
I bet this pisses off shitlibtardcucks
Okay. Make them in America then dumb ass.
cracking down on a drug
when the see eye ayy exists
Lmao
Bro you can't just not use slave labor from communist countries! That's impossible
America before it used slave labor from communist countries
With what factories?
all the parts are made in china, so they'd still be heavily tariffed under the equal retaliatory tariffs trump is doing
$1300 instead of $1400, so much better
double biden drop
no one cares
drop that's not as bad
2 minutes to midnight.mp3
Americans don’t want to work in factories. Look at how miserable Amazon is
104% of 700 is 728 retard.
Amazon isn't a factory. They're warehouses and distribution facilities.
Make the parts in America. Its simple.
The rust belt is full of old abandoned factories. Fire them up.
They do for $35 an hour.
Yeah but passing through any one of those countries would still be less than coming from China. Vietnam is set to 46% I think (the numbers change rapidly so my info might be out of date already) but it also doesn't have to be there, they can just send it somewhere else.
This is actually the main reason why there needs to be tariffs on EVERY country if the goal is to force manufacturing into the states. Otherwise it just becomes whack-a-mole
Do you think there’s just a switch or something they can throw that turns them back on like it’s magic? It will take over a decade to get them where they need to be to meet modern demands and you still need to train workers
You people are unbearably naive
It's not actually about drugs but there's legal loopholes that the president has to go through fewer checks and balances to do something if he says it's for the war on drugs.
bro DOW lost a year worth of gains in 2 days
it would take like a decade to make all the factories and shit, thats what shit like the CHIPs act was supposed to do, build up our shit incase china tries to take taiwan
it is going to take years to do all of this, and trump didn't put any enforcement clauses/penalties in the shit he mandated last time he was president so all the companies backed out before, and they'll do it again
unless he says "if you don't honor the agreement we own 20% of your outstanding stock" or something that'd actually scare them
NOOO NOT MY SONY!!
DON'T WORRY CORPORATION, I WILL DEFEND YOUR HONOR ON Anon Babble!
At this point just buy a PC
They think billionaires will feel the squeeze before them.
They work you like a sweatshop kid and make you piss in bottles
I do not want to work under those conditions and neither should you. Work does not set you free
Thanks orange retard
Muh bing bing wahoo nooooooo
Amazon isn't a factory. They're warehouses and distribution facilities. If you don't want to work there, don't. If you don't want to work, don't.
American men YEARN for the sweatshop.
You and your friends are going to lose your jobs and be scrambling to pay bills long before Zuck and Elon
When prices of everyday goods skyrocket Trumptards are going to pretend they never supported him
bro, billionaires selling chinese products with a 1200% markup lost gorillions!
awesome. hope they lose more.
No, this place that’s notorious for high turn around due to treating their employees like dogs is nothing like the other places infamous for doing the same thing
Americans don’t want to work in factories like slaves. We want to click a mouse and respond to emails for $50/hr
Biden kept Trump's tariffs on China. Biden kept USMCA.
TSMC announced their first fab in Arizona during Trump's first term. In their second term, they've announced more in investment in the US than they put in during all of Biden's term and they're open to do more after the newest tariffs put on them.
Americans are so fucking stupid
yeah biden was retarded, I just was saying that trump needs extremely strong penalties baked into the agreements to build facilities for bitching out, or they'll bitch out like the car companies did
Anon losing pocket change makes no difference to people who are that obscenely rich. In fact crashing the economy makes it easier for them to swoop in and acquire more wealth once it rebounds eventually.
YOU will be the one that gets fucked over.
all this shitposting about the switch 2 price
it ends up being the most affordable system in muttland
LOLERINO
They think billionaires will feel the squeeze before them.
microtransactions in chink games should get tariffs as well
YOU will be the one that gets fucked over.
oh so like every other day for the non-ultra rich? what changes?
I'd like to take a step further: I want any and all normal faggots GONE. I wan them GONE. I want them fuck off. I want them to make a separate forum and FUCK OFF. All of them. GONE.
Tariff whoever you want as long as you remove them from Australia. Australia is your best friend, America. Please.
If they can get a job to click a mouse and respond to emails for $50/hr, I'm sure they'd take it. Not everyone can do every day. Americans come in all shapes and sizes. They're a diverse people and need diverse job opportunities.
Mr Trump
It's PRESIDENT Trump. Leftoid propaganda didn't read.
So Trump is killing the following: consolefags (xboxfags are double kill), high end RGB PC gaymers, AAA games?
These guys can still afford to eat at obscenely expensive places for every meal, drive super cars, and live in mansions for the rest of their life
If you had a job, you’d be getting fired next week.
I don't know about that considering Nintendo is the shit-for-brains company that adopted Corporate Social Responsibility in 2008 (CSR) so they were wokies before wokie was a term. But whatever fuck it, this whole industry needed to die in a fire LONG before Gamergate.
Does nobody know what passthrough is?
Only 7% of the tax was passed to the consumer after Biden's increases to Trump's first term tariffs, it's estimated to go up to 25% (for reference, China's passthrough on import tax for US goods is 33%) which is way worse but OP image assumes a 100% passthrough which is retarded and literally never happens.
And it's not a 104% increase to tariffs, 104% is a new total on top of other tariffs from his first term and biden's term which were already in effect and didn't change the price of the ps5.
I personally think these taxes are a bad idea but I keep seeing these stupid economically illiterate opinions from people who didn't even try to look into it and just posted the first thing that popped into their head and assumed it's right.
The average person doesn't even know what a tariff does anon
tfw bought a 50xx card before all this shit happened
LOL
I wont have to worry at all
Holy shit lol I didn't think it was that bad
You have to use those college-educated skills you gained from university to read the entirety of the post as well as the imaged attached, if there is one, and in the case of my post, there was.
In the post, I mention how the tariffs stayed up and the successor trade agreement between the US, Canada, and Mexico was not overturned. Therefore, you can conclude that Trump's newer tariffs and any future trade agreements he makes could remain in place after he leaves office.
I got my 4080 desktop and my bro gave me his 4080 laptop (basically a 4070 super or so)
im ready
It's a total wipe out of consumer confidence in spending. It's fucking glorious! Because you know what that means?! Normal faggots, everywhere, gone! Fucking Gone! And I love it so fucking much: we already have seen every e-thot (like Amouranth, JennyLynnMeowri, Susu.jpg,) all fuck off like strippers in 2008 before the crash. It's fucking glorious.
How are the egg prices though?
He fixed the egg prices, right?
All the retards learned the word tariff this week
$3500 for a studio
Already there, bro.
At least the ones far away from black people
That will take a year for the chickens to repopulate after Joe personally strangled millions of birds to death in a dementia state
Australia has one of the lowest tariffs being implemented, under 10%, which compared to china, being over 30%, is a significant margin.
It is also less relevant to Australia as there was the problem of trade reliance with China which after problems led to the diversification of trade partners rather than being solely reliant on a single one, the US included, so its less of a problem than it would have been a decade ago.
Selling to the US got a little bit harder but it isn't a big deal for Straya
Ask Biden, he hates eggs
Rent for a 1BR in my hometown in Florida is almost as much as a studio in LA
Keep importing immigrants to fill your factories and that will happen anyway. That's the whole point of immigration.
I'm a bit rusty on macroeconomics, but wouldn't Sony and many other companies just rely on building factories in Taiwan or less expensive countries that could manufacture their goods and bypass the tariffs that way? Didn't some car companies and Nvidia announce an operation to building factories in US so there would be less costs compared to exporting to the US?
Damn, Musk only has 170B left, he'll be homeless soon
They think billionaires will feel the squeeze before them.
So then why did Trump say he'd lower the prices on day 1?
I'm so fucking ready for people to get angry at prices, I'm so fucking ready for Trump to rile up the masses and trigger the American Empire's birth. I am ready for the American-Mexican war.
You posted this shit yesterday, astroturfer.
Same reason he said he'd end the Russo-Ukrainian war in a day.
Fake ass virus
Did you get your Trump booster too, retard?
if an american mexican war happens, it would be basically be us sending missiles and drones at cartel locations, and them skinning some american tourists alive
if they did a cartel execution of even a single american soldier, we would go full on land invasion within the day
America will truly be a brown country
And the end result is 2 hours at that wage to buy a pair of American made socks
Also based on this understanding the "updated" price would be $759.50
Literal nothingburger
Certain car companies, notably Mazda, had their entire business strategy originally being opening manufacturing in the countries they sell to, so even if they are a foreign company, were making things domestically, with a mix of completely manufacturing ground up and assembly.
This is no longer commonly the case but is often done from other cheaper places to setup and send things from, so its kind of already the MO for a lot of those businesses. It just means changing the locations they are doing stuff from already.
The Trump show is also educational.
Australian leadership is still sad and crying out "this isn't how you treat a friend" and have started pointing fingers at each other about how this could have happened.
if the goal is to force manufacturing into the states
a process that will take anywhere from 5 to 20 years
based on policy that will at most last until the end of Trump's term
I don't think tariff man really thought this one through.
They are still richer than your family ever will be. They’re the ones buying the dip
bro you picked the dead cat bounce
SP500 is under 5000 right now
IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING
IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN
It's another Anon Babble thread
MODS
If only Trump is actually charismatic enough to actually say this for real.
Oh yeah its fucking ridiculous
We got basically the best deal out of anyone without even doing anything and they are complaining its not literally no change from the past.
like they just need to shut their fucking mouths and accept that we got a good deal from a trade partner that is changing their policies for their internal reasons, we got it basically as good as possible.
FUCK YOU THIS IS ABOUT VIDEO GAMES YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.
I have no stake in the stock market so its entertaining watching people commit suicide over stock prices
Already quoting 3rd Reich slave labor camp slogans i see.
They think billionaires will feel the squeeze before them.
theguardian.com
first mexico, then carry on south, cleanse south america, wipe out all the brazilians, nothing of value lost
Civil War will break out well before that happens.
the world's ten richest people
meanwhile the rothschilds
Oil prices are below breakeven prices for almost all US producers right now
Do you fucks have even a remote clue as to what that's going to do to the price of damn near everything?
I dedicate this song to every normal faggot that go into video games since 2006. Fuck you all:
youtu.be
How's that going to happen when America's federal government implodes and they balkanize?
It'll be another 8 years after that once we elect Vance.
that's if you multiply, it's adding an additional 104%.
Burger education in action.
all the military are republicans, that would be fucking great
5 years, once Trump is gone. How convenient.....
I am from the future
Vance loses the GOP primary to Ted Nugent
lol retard, you can't leave the union, that'd be an act of war
elect
Vance
The only way that soiboi is getting into the oval office is if Trump dies in the next 3 years.
Then the price wouldn't really change much for the consumer. It just depends on where the products will be manufactured while discouraging imports from other countries. In the end, does it even matter why people want to complain? The prices presented to consumers will likely remain the same or barely fluctuate since these companies try to adapt according regulations to minimize the costs.
The federal government is being stripped down to the copper wiring and the economy is imploding
Trump didn't get it, he's too powerful.
War is actually bipartisan here, sheep, which is why you had retarded Dems wanting to fight for Ukraine Nazis.
Just in the last few days we've had:
Poverty builds character
You don't need electronics
Anyone who owns stock is an evil capitalist
Turning allies into enemies is good
JD Vance would lose since the guy behind his Hick Hindu Fake Christian ass is that German Born Literal Faggot that was behind Hulk Hogan to tank Gawker Peter Thiel - big ass closeted faggot.
the 2028 presidential election will have competing memecoins representing each president
and then you'll be blamed for not pumping kamalacoin when she loses the election
"b-but I wanted to invested in jillcoin"
third party coins are worthless retard!
You do know companies can choose to just eat the cost right?
You do NOT need the new iPad
You do NOT need the new Cell Phone
You do NOT need the new video game console
You WANT them.
There is a big difference and if you look at all the fags whining about the tariffs I challenge you to ask them how their lives have been affected in any way
No one got it, because it's a fake virus. I bet you did get his shot like a good little retard though.
I used to insult people that said this but I unironically think Trump is a Russian plant now
I'm sorry, I was wrong
completely unrelated autistic drivel
enjoy your thousand dollars dilation station 5 nigger
I WANT the stock market to not erase an entire year of gains.
That guys worse than a softboi: that guy would be sandwiched by Elon Musk and Peter Thiel (who made his career literally and bought stuff for him) and Thiel and Musk are both faggots that were the ones that started PayPal.
make fun of the third world for 40 years
suddenly adopt all of their characteristics
Could you stop doing that faggoty ass way of poetry talking like most socialists do? Just say what you gotta say and stop saying poetry slam shit. Fuck off if you've got nothing to say.
Stock bros deserve to be destitute, if you bought/own stock, you're part of the problem and are a disgusting human being. Actual fucking parasites.
McDonald's workers provide more to society than you.
BRING CHILD LABOR BACK TO THE US. WE SHOULD BE THE ONE EXPORTING TREATS TO THE WORLD. LET CHINA BUY OUR SHIT.
eat the cost
104% tariff
Nigger, "eating the cost" in this scenario means they'd effectively be paying (you) to take their product off the shelves.
They still have billions to insulate themselves. Stop trying to pretend that the billionaire's pain is the same as yours.
Literally none of them are going to do that you fat idiot
Anyone who owns stock is an evil capitalist
reddit.com
to each according to his needs, comrade!
lmao Republicans are getting erased from existence in the next election
just pay up americans. your GDP is unfathomably higher than the rest of the world.
ummm you can't balkanize, that's illegal
please just ignore that the federal government is a hollowed-out husk of its former self and the economy is on fire
If you have/had a 401k, you qualify as a "stock bro" here.
I said the entire industry. That includes Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Valve, everyone. Everyone is going to get shit. it's been over due because the entire industry around the world was inflated with cheap cash.
The guy emptying fucking bins in your local city centre provides more than those parasites.
But when Atari came out, people had more money and could more easily afford it
Most of it goes to the top. The rest struggle to make rent and pay for medicine, but at least the shit food and toys were cheap to kind of make up for it. Now, we don't even get that.
Again with the socialist poetry slam. No one cares about what you have to say if you have nothing to say but platitudes motherfucker. You had your day in the sun last decade in the U.S. to piss off enough people against you. I don't mean the Pat Buchanan types either.
midwit copy pasta
Everything you consume is made with components from other countries or grown in other countries. It's not just consoles and Iphones that will go up in cost soon.
The returns throwing around these percentages count the people that run everyone's 401k as "the rich"
Seriously that's what they're doing
Not like any of the underage retards here even have one
Oh no my obscene wealth will only last 25 generations instead of 30
Are you retarded?
Good, any interest bearing monetary investment is Jewish and morally wrong. Boomers are greedy fucks who weren't happy having more than every generation before them, they made sure they had/have more than all the generations AFTER them.
"We don't need to go to college, bro, we're GRINDING the BAG and being ALPHAS"
Votes for person who promised to dismantle the dept of education and deport every person on the country who would work jobs for 1 penny/hour
Now claim that you WANT sweatshops and factories back in america
Only people left to work on them are the low education retards that bought the propaganda
Can't wait to see these morons in a decade, losing their whole hands inside machinery
They think billionaires will feel the squeeze before them.
should have built a pc
my 5080 will last me for the next decade
The tariff money is going to the government. Now they will have more money to fund social program.
Everyone praising trump for this is a NEET or under 18 anon.
Now they will have more money to fund social program.
lmaooooo
Why would he be a Russian plant when this is quintessential shock doctrine and modus operandi of the IMF? If Trump was a Russian plant one would think he would have removed sanctions on Russia and would stop being adversarial toward China and Iran, but no. Trump is an AIPAC plant of we want to accuse any other country of influencing him
I want to kiss older women
2020s Republican or 1950s Soviet? Can you figure out which one it is?
What they don't know is that there are too many people that are already pissed off at Wall Street already. Because some people in the U.S. may have forgotten about 2008 but a lot of people didn't and we just had a decade were a lot of inflation in the economy (DEI being stupid project to dangle cash to companies) that when you have Fink saying now because his ass got bitch slapped hard that "we're in a recession" it's like "Fink, shut up, we already know that if you do something at this point, it's out of spite."
Fuck you, i haven't had a single shot since I was 9. I got Covid and nothing happened. Co Workers got Covid, got fucked.
Just kidding they're cutting social security as well.
Can't be obese if you're starving!
They do not want to kiss you
They won't. We're getting austerity and maybe a meme war instead. The tariffs will instead be used to shift the tax burden after the rich get their estate taxes and other rich-targeted taxes cut.
i would gladly work in a sweatshop for 12h a day if i didn't have to see niggers or spics
And this is in spite the fact that Trump and Wall Street are dipping into coffers of normal fag 401k and pension plans. So CEOs are in for a response that they didn't expect.
Well maybe you should live as they did instead of blowing all your cash on onlyfans whores and smoking fentanyl
lol no you wouldn't
Going to the govt
More like bankrupting the govt in hopes of parts of it being put up for sale by private corporations. Imagine believing a greedy business man who hates govt would actually want to get more money for the govt after gaining control there.
Read Abolition of Interest-Slavery
I just want Americans to stop fighting each other and focus on the REAL enemy, the megacorporations stirring shit up to stay in power.
The Republicans VS Democrats schtick is such a blatant psyop and it's poisoned the minds of the masses against each other and it works so fucking perfectly that no one actually cares if their hate is misdirected.
Everyone wants the American people to be happy, healthy and wealthy and yet we'd all sooner kill each other before we ever cooperate.
+$12.7B
Based Buffett
NOOOOOO I NEED MY CHINESE SLAVE LABOR
Maybe try building things without slavery?
foreign "slave labor" lose their jobs due to tariffs
die of starvation and homelessness
I love helping the poor, I'm such a good person
china
aren’t consoles made by Foxconn in Taiwan?
>Why would he be a Russian plant when this is quintessential shock doctrine and modus operandi of the IMF?
You mean, what transformed Russia into what it is today? And it's because a lot of richfags look at Russia as aspirational.
i already do 12h shifts at oil refineries and steel works around the country, working on a production line would be easy
Ehhhh say it with me now:
National Socialism is Socialism.
I don't give a fuck about what a national socialist says at all because they were cut from the same Marxist cloth as the communists. Hard pass.
And how much money do you make hourly doing that? How much $ do you think you'd make at a sweatshop making Nikes?
Apple stocks going up because shareholders know that iphone prices are about to raise $500 and retards are still going to buy it.
cool now imagine if you were only paid $5 an hour to do that same work
I don't ever want to hear you brag about your guns or your fierce independence again, Americans.
You let a fat old man rape your nation right into the ground. This is after decades of abuse by billionaires. You are the most cucked, feeble, and powerless niggers in the whole entire world. Bugmen in a 1-room apartment in socialist china have more balls than you.
Explain this to me like the retard I am
Does this tariff stuff just mean that price goes up for basically everything?
When will price go down?
Not all because the cost of Taiwanese labor is high compared to mainland chinese. With mainland Chinese, where most are terribly uneducated, you get cheaper pay. Horray for communistic capitalist subversion!
manufacturers/retailers reducing margins instead of just passing all costs onto the consumer
LMAO
So how long do you think this crap will last? A few weeks? Months? Until midterms? Next election?
Boomers are panicking because they've spent decades cushed up making retirement by rusting out the country.
It's medicine though.
The USA is a geographical fortress. We're not a poor island nation that can't make ALL things domestically. Market supply and demand changes will always be adjusted to with domestic production. It takes time to adjust, but it leads to a better future.
It's outdated pic.
20 bucks an hour basic, granted i get ot and night shift work, regardless i'd gladly drop to 10 bucks to work in a single place with no spics or niggers
still going to buy it
I'm not sure anymore about that.
Interest rates are not going to go down.
So that is going to depress people from buying anything at all. Only people that actually*** have the money to spare will do it. Recessions are great.
When will price go down?
Anon...I...
Isn't the reason it was made in China because it was cheap? If it's not cheap, make it somewhere else. So difficult.
On the other hand, if China is the only nation with the ability to manufacture a console, then it's better to find out how fucked we are now than later when they sink our navy woth a drone swarm or whatever. Orange man seems like he's being a retard in the implementation but the idea makes sense
This.
American Companies go to China for cheap labor, screwing their own countrymen for jobs
charge the consumer higher prices
now they're getting tariffed for being cheap
you'll be paying more, only the price increases will appear faster than usual
Americans are dumb as fuck and don't even understand what's going on.
Losing money costs you nothing, libtard.
Brother you have no idea what you're talking about
Midterms are guaranteed to be a wipeout for Reps at this point, so that's the latest
It doesn't really matter how unpopular the Dem party is, they're going to be "the other guys" when it comes to voters
Scalper costs for Switch 2 are probably going to be fucking insane due to the tariffs. I'm kinda curious to see how high they'll go.
Its what destroyed the Soviet Union and made Russia poor before Putin came in and reversed that shit, which is why the West started hating him. The west loved Yeltsin in contrast and rigged elections in Russia to get him the win.
Yes. we are, the prices will go down once Sony,MS,and Nintendo opens factories in America, it might take 4 years but itll be worth the wait
Five years after launch the Atari was $50.
Protesting is nowhere near as effective in US as it is in Europe and many Asian countries. All geographically large and spread out nations tend towards autocracy just because it becomes way more difficult to a) get everyone on the same wavelength due to regionalism and b) shut down the whole country by marching on a handful of cities. Why does France protest so much? It's a cultural thing, but it's also because Paris is less than a day's ride from any point in the country, and you can basically shut down the country by marching in Paris. Why does Russia not have protests despite its wretched history? Again, a culture of submission but also because it's cold and unpleasant as fuck outside, and it's a huge country.
You are profoundly retarded. It is capitalism and communism the ones that are cut from the same cloth, not communism and NS.
I hope your brain retardation gets better. Read a book sometime, nigger.
before Putin came in and reversed that shit
You can't possibly be this stupid and naive. Wealth is more concentrated than ever in Putin's Russia.
Will this further extend the lifespan of the PS4?
Maybe tax the rich and corporations instead of declaring war on the average American's wallet? Fucking joke of a country.
The downfall of the Trump administration will be gamers rising up.
sir you don't need luxury goods sir, that is only for first world
You forgot
charging consumers even higher prices for these new tariffs to cover their losses.
If Tariffs are so bad why do other countries do them?
Answer me.
Don't call me "brother" you fucking socialist asshole. You can try that mystery cult horseshit on someone else but cat's out of the fucking bag and if you keep pushing buttons with that "I know more than you do" shit, someone is going to show you up and have your reputation smeared permanently to mean absolutely dog shit.
He is taxing them, lol. The money just isn't going to (You). It'll go to Israel or something.
Says the CIA. You sound like you were born after Yeltsin.
I unironically never stopped believing this
Everyone's pay was higher, houses cost less, cost of living was lower, etc etc
How much are you getting paid?
we should emulate poor and stupid countries!
My hate for you people can not be put into words properly
Hoping the housing market crashes soon.
Dude, current left and right will NEVER work together, with all those faggot lefts who want to kill a president and...nothing wrong with rights, they haven't burned down car dealerships or tried to kill a sitting president...
Is America turning into Brazil? Kek
Good I'll be on PC then
socialist
You have no idea what you are saying brother
Oil rig worker
$20 an hour
Holy shit you must be retarded, I know tons of guys in Canada and the US who make >$100k doing that shit with minimal experience. That explains a lot about you actually.
These threads are just lefties seething nonstop.
Insults someone as a means of convincing them.
Corporatism/Fascism, which bitches and complains about capitalism unironically like Marx did, denies and claims to be a new thing when he is nothing more than Marx's bastard son.
Get the fuck over yourself. No one likes you just like no one likes a Marxist. You're usually just closeted homosexuals that can't amount to anything in life because you want to blame someone for your fucking shortcomings like any socialist.
Please answer the question.
Explain why you think that everyone who thinks this is dumb is a leftist.
It's targeted and there is usually some industrial policy in place to funnel money to domestic industries to get them up to par. Tariffs in the US are blanket tariffs on things the US can't produce (or produce in sufficient quality), and is not coupled with incentives/subsidies for industries we want state side, which is bad. Also, given the choice between selling to America or selling to the world, most corps will pick the latter. America is a very lucrative market, but not that lucrative.
Again you don't know shit either. A beat down inches of your life will probably work (or then again, it may not).
Americans worked together and voted in the current president who is doing more to assrape the mega corporations than anyone else in history and his cabinet is full of people from both the left and the right, hell he's enacting leftist democrat policies right now because he used to be a democrat himself.
you absolute fucking retard, oil refineries aren't oil rigs, apologise to your parents for being so dumb
Even Brazilians aren't stupid enough to do general tariffs. Obviously you target them to the industries you want to build.
Other countries are retailiating in as a way of trying to fight back against trump.
kill mutts
crazy
Why would they crash? Housing isn’t being tariffed retard
His math adds up to 67.07% so who the fuck owns the rest?
Brother, America is collapsing from within and you're still chasing imaginary commies
welp the tariffs just activated at midnight
its over
maybe the japs should start making their consoles in japan again and not in china
I was gaming on a 1050ti forever and now I got a 5080. I feel like a god. Stop being poor lol.
Also the 9800x3d that makes virgins cum in their pants.
lol praying boomers are sent to the cobalt mines with us
Scott Steiner
The other top 49% below the top 1%
America wants to trade position with China. America can be the sweatshop slave labor export nation, while China gets to import American goods for peanuts and complain about the loss of its manufacturing sector and blue collar culture. At least all Americans will have a steady job though, and looking at the reversal of child labor laws, even the kids will be able to get in on the grind.
Stop calling me brother you stupid faggot.
imaginary commies
You still believe that there are non-socialists that have not cracked wise or read socialist lit to know what you are on about: you can call yourself a progressive, democratic-socialist, hegalians, national socialists, it doesn't matter. It's all the same shit. So go fuck yourself and know that when you talk your "prophecies" or whatever pseudo religious cult shit in the real world, offline, there will be someone to tell you on the ready to fuck yourself.
If this happens it would be funny because switch 2 isn't made in china at least not the ones sold in burgerland. It would probably be the cheapest console right?
lmao
Chill out, brother.
what am I going to do without my snoystation 5?
jk, my ps2 still works all these years later, 2002 fifa, the incredible hulk and katamari still work
be company
want to sell product in another country
pay duty tax to the government for doing business there
eat a 20% loss to stay competitive or be a dick and pass the losses onto the customer and blame the government for trying to take care of its citizens
just like border walls and strict emigration policies, ALL countries have tariffs. trump did this in his last term by offering tariff and tax relief for creating jobs in the USA which worked last time and is mostly working this time as many countries have negotiated. big fucking fail on electronics because semiconductors are primarily made in one single country. efforts were made to build a semiconductor plant in the USA but ineptitude and corporate greed are stifling progress
The rich don't lose money, anything they "lose" on stocks will be milked out of taxpayers to offset it. The rich also owned 90% of the stock market in 2008, and they came out richer than ever once that recession ended.
If tariffs hurt both parties why would anyone create "retaliatory" tariffs?
Fuck off. I hope someone beats your socialist face in.
Also, given the choice between selling to America or selling to the world, most corps will pick the latter. America is a very lucrative market, but not that lucrative.
Depends who you are, what you're selling, and whether or not you depend on America's military.
You are a fucking retard. You think that america is just gonna start growing coffee?
Brother you don't seem to understand, this has nothing to do with socialism or any of that other shit
This is Trump and the Republicans, this is their circus, these are their clowns
Canada and China, sitting in a tree
Because trying to get the trade war over with as fast possible is better than dragging it out forever.
FAGGOT
You have to understand that I don't give a shit what you think or what you believe. You can go fuck off.
You think countries that sell coffee to the USA can afford to NOT sell coffee to the USA?
glad I built my pc before all this nonsense sucks to suck lol
We don't need coffee. Ween yourself off of drugs. You'll be happier for it in the long run.
i hate americans so much it's unreal
The entire GOP is compromised, they have no choice but to watch the economy crash under their watch, lol
Cool, enjoy the inflation then.
You don't need coffee.
It'll get even worse when China flattens and genocides the Taiwanese.
And they were warned, saw hundreds of threads about tariffs and everyone just called them lefty fearmongering kek
You can't understand English can you?
I don't care about what you're on about.
I don't care what you believe or think.
I don't care about you because you're fucking faggot and will always be one.
the best part is that the niggers defending trump are the ones who get hurt the most
poorfags? you don't get to retire. you don't get any more luxuries. eat slop and work until you fall over dead.
old people? say goodbye to social security and your 401k
white racists? say hello to your new Elon-mandated roommates, Ranjeet Prandeep and Chandra
The rich don't lose money
Those headlines are pretty clear. They lost money.
anything they "lose" on stocks will be milked out of taxpayers to offset it.
I'm not aware of this government policy.
The rich also owned 90% of the stock market in 2008, and they came out richer than ever once that recession ended.
If they owned 90% of stocks in 2008 and still only owned 93% of stocks in 2023...that doesn't seem like much of an improvement.
Should have used those nukes more when you were the only ones with them, typical retarded yanks. What's the point of having the most powerful military in the history of mankind, if you only use it when Israel tells you to?
Coffee is a luxury. Start getting 8 hours of sleep and you won't need it.
Your entire worldview is a sham, you would rather crash the country than ever engage with someone you disagree with in good faith
Start getting 8 hours of sleep
Going to be kind of hard when the 8-hour workday is repealed.
And what is my worldview?
You tell me since you're saying so.
good faith
At this point you want to lecture me about good faith? Fuck off. This is why socialists are seriously becoming afraid for their safety in the U.S. lol
not my problem lol
Sexy older women.
You all realize that Hawaii produces kona. There are a few coffee producers in the US and US territory.
Gonna be hard to do that after your 16 hour shift in the mines and then time to commute.
starting to notice this about a lot of anons here, which makes me think that there isn't anything to worry about.
lol you think that hawaii is capable of producing all of the coffee that america consumes?
nintendo shit is made in china too retard
And what is my worldview?
"Conservatism" is nothing more than a front for bigotry, spite, abusiveness, and exploitation of those who can't defend themselves
That's why it attracts con artists and pedophiles and such
Same with religion
He may very well be the most based man ever. Has any other man caused as much universal seething?
Maybe coffee shouldn't be something that everyone gets. Coffee used to be the drink of the rich. The president is setting things right and turning back the clock.
stock market crashing
Crypto bros literally killing themselves
boomers with 401k pensions and retirements literally getting ready to murder/suicide their families because they lost everything after slaving away at a job for 40 years
Even Ben Shitpiro, Joe Rogan and Alex Jones turned on Trump
"E-everything is totally good! T-trust the plan! Trump would never betray us!"
I really hope you anons have a backlog of vidya. This board is going to be fucking unusable for a month.
Man their attempts at excuses are pathetic.
There is not even remotely enough physical space in Hawaii to produce enough coffee for the rest of the country.
the ps5 is the best ps4 I've ever owned
turning into a third world shithole to troll the libtards epic style
burgers will finally stop freeloading on strong dollar they mass printed and have similar purchasing power to rest of the world
finally, thank god for orange tard for speedrunning their inevitable collapse
Dead cat bounce, the S&P closed below 5,000 today.
A literal year's worth of stock gains are wipes out.
I just want Americans to stop fighting each other and focus on the REAL enemy, the megacorporations stirring shit up to stay in power.
They had a moment, for a split second, where they ALMOST figured that out. The billionaires used their media empire to accelerate the culture war to distract and it was 100% successful.
please trump-sama declare war on iran before june, i want as many of your supporters to die as possible before you get impeached
will this be the end of petrodollar?
According to foreigners we're already third world mutts, so it's basically a moot point.
presumes I'm a conservative
Presumptive as usual like most socialists.
I'm going to tell you something: no one likes presuming people and you're no fucking saint and you don't get to tell me what is good, moral or ethical. Ever. So fuck you and fuck your political pseudo-religious ilk. No one likes you.
Don't gaslight and strawman me, imbecile.
There's several operations ongoing from Puerto Rico, North Carolina, California, and Hawaii. Eventually, coffee made in US will be in higher demand.
Sir, that's a Sony.
Retard hyperbole, still the most powerful nation on the planet by a massive margin, still the biggest economy, still the USA.
It closed red you retarded redditor.
Trump is going more to advance socialism than anyone else, he's singlehandedly collapsing the capitalist system from within
We may have a second shot at this rate
Midterms are guaranteed to be a wipeout for Reps at this point, so that's the latest
It's not. The Dems might get the House but under no circumstances whatsoever in modern America can they get the Senate, there are simply not enough viable seats available to flip, they'll land at 49 at best.
My wealth manager isn't worried, so I wouldn't worry about it. Probably not.
trust ze plan
There is nowhere near enough land and labor for that to happen.
Keep telling yourself the stupid fanfiction you pass off as street prophecy.
So even the 'mighty' RTX 5070 will probably be over $1000?
see
Heh. Your jokes are just as derivative as your so-called economic magic theory.
Degrowth and accelerationism. If you believe in climate change, Trump may have saved the world with this as he'll have given more time for alt energy like fusion to come to frution.
The real 5D chess was destroying capitalism to usher in glorious space communism all along
when manufacturing moved to China it was an impoverished rural wasteland. so sick of retards arguing it would be imposdible to move production back to the US when the US, despite its obvious massive decline, is still in vastly better shape than China was when production was moved there
ITT: socialist retards from Anon Babble being stupid
MODS!
I mean, we didn't have to do all this, we could have just taxed the rich more instead
Isn't America the sole winner of WWII who used the might of the manufacturing power of industrial America to supply and solely fund the whole world against Germany?
If manufacturing comes back to America because of this I don't think America lacks any resource to carry the same weight China can.
It's just that most of the youth of America are lazy twats who will never know a honest day's work.
Cool fanfic.
Let me know when utopia happens.
The EU will bend the knee by proxy of doing nothing. Their shitty system giving unilateral veto powers guarantees Trumps IDU buddy in Hungary will veto any retaliation and end the EUs options for response.
It's already happening, welcome to the Chinese Century gweilo
They literally shipped entire factories to China when they started out. Now we can import complete machines and have them continue manufacturing without issues. Retards really have no clue about modern factories.
America can produce anything infinitely better than you can, and in fact outsourcing is why everything you own has turned into low quality disposable slop.
How will these events effect me and Mr attraction to older women?
Those headlines are pretty clear. They lost money.
God damn you are one dumb fucking nigger. They "lost" imaginary money they will have refunded out of your pocket within 6 months.
If they owned 90% of stocks in 2008 and still only owned 93% of stocks in 2023...that doesn't seem like much of an improvement.
Ok you're just fucking trolling at this point
It's be nice to get my gear from local manufacturers like I did back in the 90's/00's. But at the same time. I really do like cheap shit. Lacking community and culture sucks, but everything being expensive also sucks. Feel like we are caught between a rock and a hard place. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
nintendo hate threads got really quiet
good thing Sony already has enough PS5's in America to keep selling till the PS6. If Switch 2 keep going up in price people are just gonna buy the cheaper PS5.
We have the strongest military, so we can just take what resources we need as well. No need for trade.
Say it with me, OUT OF TOUCH OLD PEOPLE WHO WILL DIE BEFORE ACTUALLY SUFFERING ANY CONSEQUENCES
it depends on what the import value is. whatever retailers pay from distributors is what the tariff % is based off of.
like with consoles, retailers make like 5 to 10 percent of the price of the console (so like $50, maybe a bit more), meaning the price they pay when it is exported from another country to america is like $400 for a switch 2 or $450 for a ps5. meaning that they would get raped hard by the tariffs.
with nvidia video cards, the partners make like a similar small percentage per sale, because they just add fans and shit and nvidia sells them the board for like more than 80% of the msrp.
so lets say retailers pay $500 for a 5070 with an msrp of $550, taiwan has a tariff of of 32%, so $500+32% would mean $660 price to retailers, meaning they'd have to sell them at $700 if not a bit more in order to have the same profit margins
Commie century
Yeah, after China's economy went bust by 30% entirely two years ago. Evergrande - that was a good example communism at work.
early rally disappeared by closing dumbass
America rebuilt europe, enriched China and gave away trillions to help the world. In the end America is now poorer, weaker and the people is suffering. Enough is enough, America is no longer giving away it's free money to the rest of the world and we want our money back.
What happens when the stock market goes to 0?
They're lazy because of smartphones and having nothing to look forward to. If people feel that hard work will be rewarded, they'll work their asses off. If slaving away gets you more work and then a lay-off, then most of them will do the bare minimum to get by.
Anon Babble
Be serious, most of these are Twitter and r/politics squatters.
Men will have to slave away in the coal mines but no state mandated gf like in the third-world? what's the fucking point then?
Whoa, will this affect PS5 stock that's already in? I've been eyeing the $450 Astro Bot bundle, when should I scoop on that?
EU going for trade war over 20% tariffs when they have massive export surplus would be a mistake, i think its better to stay low for now and watch China vs US trade war unfold. I give it few months and either USA shits itself or it escalates into actual actual war.
You're not going to address the Evergrande situation? I wonder why you wont! The 30% loss that left many Chinese out of money and any equity in China!? You heartless smug bastard.
The point is that you will own nothing and you will be happy
Well America is about to lose 100% so I just wonder what will happen in that event
You could afford that by flipping burgers for one hour at that time
I know.
They "lost" imaginary money
I assumed this was the case.
they will have refunded out of your pocket within 6 months.
I don't meet any billionaires, so I don't know how that's possible.
Ok you're just fucking trolling at this point
Everyone is that you can't understand.
Same thing that happened to China, the youth will just lay flat and do nothing until morale improves.
It's hard to tell because retailers will 100% love an excuse to raise prices on stock they already bought.
A major factor going forward is that Sony makes SOME of their PS5s in Japan and MOST in China. If they send only Japan PS5s to america it'd mean they "only" need a price increase of about $100 to keep the same profit margins (japan tariffs are 24%, china's are 104%), but there'd be less stock around.
Nobody knows for sure how the retailers and sony are going to handle this.
no you couldn't
all the companies that make stuff outside the west are traitors
blumpf won
Why not tell me about something that just happened? You don't care that Chinese people, some that are not even party members, who bought homes and were promised implicitly by their government that they were going to go up with the efforts of the party?! Come on man! Defend China! Talk for the Chinese people that go ripped off! Seriously. You guys talk a good game but you don't care. You don't know anything about anything.
while I agree, I also like cheap shit. So maybe a little bit of betrayal is okay...
If tariffs are bad and self-destructive why is China proposing even more of them? Huh?
I see. While I'm still not quite ready to upgrade my 4, given the value of that bundle, I would definitely consider dipping into my savings to get one now rather than waiting potentially several more years. I'd like to get ahead of Trump's bullshit but fuck that's not easy because he keeps piling it on. Lol
What is the date the China/Japan tariffs go into effect?
Why do people act like the economy is ending when the stock markets already rebounded today?
It's a means of double tapping American hegemony.
America has killed itself, China is now #1 world power, deal with it gweilo
Isn't America the sole winner of WWII who used the might of the manufacturing power of industrial America to supply and solely fund the whole world against Germany?
The entire post-war set up was a MASSIVE scam America pulled on Europe. The Marshall Plan was a massive low interest loan designed with 1 purpose, to take a shattered Europe give them a ton of money so they would rebuild their society top down, rather than bottom up, by using that money to buy shit from American factories rather than rebuilding their own factories first. The result was that the European manufacturing base just never recovered, they didn't spend the money on it until WAY later, making Europe heavily reliant on America. The flip side was Europe ended up with better social foundations since all the money went to public works and things like that.
But here we are, 80 years later and Europe still can't match their industry pre-WW2.
Because if Trump is going to punch China, China will punch back.
already rebounded today
...Anon...
all this is the fault of leftists. Leftists made it acceptable for companies to outsource overseas or import 3rd world slave labour.
Every bad economic decision ever is the fault of leftists.
为人民服务!
你们网站上的白人不了解中国只有文字,没有其他。为什么当供应链从中国转移的消息传出时,中国会大惊失色?
The Chinese goverment doesn't care about their own people. That's like saying Hasan Piker cares about Palestine when he doesn't. it's the same shit but different part of the world. During Covid, China let people starve to death and locked them in their homes for "zero covid" goals.That's why.
Guys I am starting to think Trump isn't actually a good businessman.
But tariffs only hurt yourself. It's like if Trump punches himself...China wants to punch itself too?
Glad globalism is murdered, it has brought nothing but misery to everyone who adopted it.
Has his art been getting worse, or does he just not clean-up much after sketching?
我不是白鬼。如果你有所了解,就会知道有各种各样的人来访问网站。蠢货
But I thought tariffs hurt the issuing nation most of all? It's like seeing someone punch themselves in the face, so you hit yourself in retaliation. Words and actions aren't lining up here.
In the end America is now poorer, weaker and the people is suffering
Americans don't know hardship, you niggers are the whiniest motherfuckers to ever infest this planet. "Muh costs, muh health insurance". Fuck right off, your poorest state is richer than the UK. You dumb fucks just spend money like retards then whine that you're poor
Oh no, Billybob only made $87,000 take on income this year, after he paid his F350 payments and the mortgage on his 50,000 sqft house in the suburbs and then spent $700 a month on take out he is living paycheque to paycheque.
Die you parasite
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BASED
ALL FUCKING ECONOMISTS AND CONSOLENIGGERS MUST FUCKING HANG
QUADRUPLE THE TARRIFS, REINDUSTRIALIZE AND UNIONIZE UNTIL THE CORPORATE BEAN COUNTER KIKES ARE FORCED BACK INTO LINE
I HATE FREE TRADE SO MUCH IT'S UNREAL
But tariffs only hurt yourself
nobody said that
No? Tariffs hurts both sides depending on what the item is being tariffed.
based
Apparently they're in effect now, as of 37 minutes ago.
Also keep in mind, now that they're in effect Trump might want to start signing deals with countries desperate to countries willing to deal preferential terms.
I don't think it'll be THAT bad (several years from now will be ps6 times, kek), but its really frustrating that he is rapidly changing the terms making it hard to predict wtf is going on.
This post is just NOOOO AMERICANS CANT DO ANYTHING TO REVERSE THEIR BAD FORTUNES THEY NEED TO BE AS POOR AND MISERABLE AS OUR THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE
It dove down, rebounded thanks to some clout chasing predictions from idiots, went down again after people found out those predictions were fake, now it's going back up again. I haven't sold anything yet. And I don't intend to.
Yes. Better coffee too. I've done greenhouse stuff with strawberries to develop practical solutions of growing desirable strawberries for the February valentine's day demand.
All things are possible domestically for America with the power of white innovation.
Doubtful considering trumps behaviour indicates he will just continue the bullying and blackmail
nah fuck unionism, hang all unionists, dirty commies.
You are preaching mediocrity because you are low iq.
FREE TRADE JUST EQUALIZES COUNTRIES AND TURN THEM ALL INTO SHIT. DESTROY FREE TRADE.
I would like to think when I get old and start facing inevitable mortality I might become a little less selfish and start looking out for the future of younger generations so that they might enjoy some of the pleasures I got to cherish in life before fading off into oblivion. You can't take it with you
Then a 34% tariff hike on US exports seems low when they're taxing nothing.
But tariffs existed before Trump. That would mean people were hurting themselves before Trump.
Don't forget he bought his F-350 on a 28% APR loan too.
VGH THE TRVD VDVERTISEMENTS OF 50s VSA TO SELL HOTDOGS
oh no, the line didn't go up!
i made a joke yesterday trump would 99% tariff china.
Well he 104%ed them. I was pretty close.
That's not entirely true: Europeans have opted for heavy emphasis for social services programs instead of going for liberalization in markets because of the needs of what the respective european citizens wanted from their government. Plus governments in Europe would later prefer to lean on NATO and implicitly the U.S. instead to further take whatever they could in savings and put it to welfare programs. This in turn makes it very stringent to for business to flourish due to regulations. That's it.
Yes. In the end, the consumers lose whether there's tariffs or no tariffs.
Orange Man is just making all the cheapskate American companies use American labor instead of going for the cheap foreign labor. It unironically helps Americans in the long run but people hate change and suffering so tantrums are expected.
I don't want to pay more now especially with how high the cost of living is.
yes that's the joke, real smart boy
jfc retards should just be cut off the internet entirely
200% Tariffs for Chyna
But tariffs existed before Trump.
Targeted tariffs existed, Anon.
What are some games?
lul
To hurt the USA and continue its ascent to global hegemony. China's GDP is is only 3% made up from US exports, they aren't going to hurt much from tariffing the US, and can rebound that by opening up more trade deals for now former US allies who want a more reliable trade partner.
It's China's time to become #1, and Trump dickriders are to thank for it. Thoughts and prayers
I hope they put that money to good use by building factories, not to NEET leeches on Anon Babble
Thanks, anon. Lmao, maybe PS6 will actually have more than a handful of worthwhile exclusives. At least PS5 is fully BC with PS4 so if it's cheap enough it's easy to view it as an upgrade. Glad I wouldn't be buying that separate $80 disc drive attachment, lmao, shit is ridic
ok but nobody said that and you haven't proven me wrong
No?
You'll have to wait until the economy stabilized into a "new norm" then we'll see if a game that's 8/10 is worth it's salt for $80.
Trump is the culmination of human retardation.
Yes? Do you think the US had a blanket 104% tariff on China until today?
that's the funny part about all this. No matter what happens the devs are still gonna keep pumping out these shitty ass DEI games.
Holy shit imagine being this delusional, America is literally squishing China's head right now and you think China can compete when their population completely relies on producing plastic slop for Americans to buy and consume. Now the Chinese wont have jobs because demand will lessen because Americans buy that much which in turn causes Xi to be deposed since China is no longer stable.
lol
Wait until we elect a Anon Babblefag to the Oval.
The fucking cope hahahahahaahahaha
trump god
thinking there are going to be any more elections
But they did say that. The billboard says tariffs will be a tax on American groceries.
Five out of seven of the estimates that we identified for Trump’s tariff plan are the highest since 1951.
We already did, that's JD Vance
stocks go up
I get no benefit
stocks go down
My life is fucked
explain this
Makes me wonder if this is when they'll make their move on Taiwan. They need to distract their population from this shit-show.
Vance is a Anon Babblefag, so only one clogged artery away from presidency. I think Vance is actually pretty intelligent, though, even if he is a faggot.
That is literally what a tariff is.
and you think China can compete when their population completely relies on producing plastic slop for Americans to buy and consume
China's exports to the US are 3% of it's GDP, they are not reliant on the USA, it's not 2004 anymore you retard. This is fact, it is not up for negotiation or your emotional delusional alternate reality.
Did look at the image I posted?
people who hold stocks tend to scream really loudly and throw a tantrum when they lose money
why do people unironically peddle advertisements
It's more the short-term faggots that are doing all the yelling. Long-term investors are just watching the clouds pass by.
The rich have access to your bank account via government handouts. This is, in a way, their investment insurance. They get to play the market and reap the rewards, if things go bad the government will raid your taxes to bail them out.
Are you going to answer the question? You think the US had blanket 104% tariffs on China?
maybe, but at this point if a billionaire gave me a machine gun and let me gun down leftists with 100% immunity, i would burn through millions of rounds. i'm so sick of them.
China tries to divest from exporting to USA during the first tariffs and moved production to other countries but now they're all getting tariffed so in the end China gets assraped anyways.
le heckin directionerino
The rich make sure all the dividends of line go up goes to them. They then turn around and socialize all the costs when line go down. They then buy the dip in a few years, grabbing everything at yard sale prices. Either way, they win, because they built and rigged the system.
bingo
anon, they hide a lot of their exports via "oh hey we made it in china and vietnam put a sticker on it :^)" scammery.
their entire export industry is 20% of their gdp, america's contributions would be closer to half of that than 3%
thats still negligible though since they'd have more inventory available for other countries
Tariffs would be on the wholesale price. The only way you get double the shelf price is if the company applies their multiplier to increased cost. This would mean that the company is increasing it's revenue on top of covering the costs of the tariffs.
Let's assume the retailer marks up the console 25%.
Cost x Multiplier = Store Cost
560 x 1.25 = 700 (revenue of 140)
With tariffs they would be doing this.
(560 x 2.04) x 1.25 = 1428
(1142.4) x 1.25 = 1428 (revenue of 285.6)
With tariffs if they maintained their revenue the shelf price would only be $1282.40 (1142.4+140).
The larger the upcharge retailers have had in the past (rather than the 25% I assumed) the bigger this discrepancy is. Also since they won't be raising other costs (like wages) beyond normal just for tariffs the increased revenue is pure profit.
I would like to think when I get old and start facing inevitable mortality I might become a little less selfish and start looking out for the future of younger generations so that they might enjoy some of the pleasures I got to cherish in life before fading off into oblivion
you're not jewish though. you have a soul.
Correct. It hurts only yourself.
If you ignore the content I use in retort, it's easy to make yourself seem right. I've posted two charts showing tariffs being a common thing going back 200 years. I also will look to see if the US had any tariffs on China back in the 1800s. But that may take some time.
he fell for it
companies get an easy scapegoat to blame price gouging on
price gouge out the ass
now where have I seen this before
It hurts both sides. One side pays more and the other side loses sales.
If you ignore the content I use in retort
You ignored the original question first actually. It's pretty obvious why you are doing so too, since it would expose the flaw in your claim of "blanket tariffs good".
No need to worry. In a few weeks from now you'll start seeing your cost of living rise. Like 90% of your products have China in them lol
tariffs have only hurt companies whose entire business is outside the us
lol that's not true
Been hearing more Americans say that empathy is a weakness.
bruh, you are legit retarded. The US is the second biggest maker of things in the world.
90% of stuff in the US isnt made in china
You know as I browse around I would have definitely marked twitter as the most likely place for delusional Trumpers to cope about their exploding costs but Twitter was easily a 6/10 compared to the Anon Babble levels of delusion
Pretty much while also being exposed for the frauds that they are no less
its 100% true. Companies based in the US have no tariffs on them.
Seethe brainlet.
Trump and Putin, sitting in a tree
b-b-but--
No tariffs on Russia, idiot.
hello tourist. Anon Babble has always been right
Because the only people delusional enough not to trust Trump, one of the most brilliant and competent presidents ever, have TDS.
god OP has discovered a cheat code for (you)s and hitting the bump limit
the Trump limit.
End of rine chyna
Rine end here
You ding dong bannu from trade.
it only works when mods are asleep
Okay, good. Tariffs hurt both sides.
I'm pretty sure the charts were blanket tariffs. The first one for sure. It was average import duties for the US going back 200 hours. I don't know why you think that's different than what you're saying.
Also, trade with China was restricted to like one port. China didn't want to trade with Westerners due to the opium trade, which resulted in the Opium Wars, that gave Westerns some access to the market. Then by the 1890,s the Westerns had finally beaten down the Chinese enough to gain more market access. So, in the 1800s, looks like it was the Chinese who had restrictions on trade with Westerns.
Cool now what if your business needs to import something like raw materials we don't have here?
Then we take it by force.
Why do you think we're gonna annex Canada and take Greenland?
You still believe that there are non-socialists that have not cracked wise or read socialist lit
Yep, the so called "progressives" were too blatant throughout the past decade with many of their social engineering schemes thoroughly exposed.Thankfully the American people overwhelmingly voted against it during the past election.
It only hurts the US companies that uses cheap foreign labor.
Based
the people saying things I don't like are outsiders
Nigger.
no, it ONLY hurts US consumers. US companies will just keep using foreign labor and raise prices to compensate for their increased costs caused by the tariffs.
not him but it hurts companies because people will buy less shit, but its going to hurt consumers more
In other words: No games. The industry broke itself completely and that means the hardware doesn't really matter.
Some of them might. Then they'll lose customers to the company that doesn't and accepts lower profit margins in exchange for growing marketshare.
Depends what the consumer is consuming. If they mostly consume imported goods, then yes. If they switch to domestic alternatives, they'll be fine.
America is fucked but at least Elon Musk won't be able to game in peace ever again
I think everyone would forgive him if he could get trump to do universal healthcare.
Everyone would forget all the dumb shit if they could use an ambulance during a heart attack and not have to worry that they're going to bankrupt their family
us mineral wealth is worth 4x the debt.
lol leftards cannot into economics
how about taxing banksters and usurers
guess that would be antisemitic
You wouldn't get a heart attack if you weren't a fatass. Walking a little everday is low cost and eating less saves money.
I think everyone would forgive him if he could get trump to do universal healthcare.
...Why would he do that lol
He is a billionaire pedophile who is addicted to ketamine
than ever engage with someone you disagree with in good faith
We aren't having a friendly political debate here, we are warring with people who ideologically oppose us at our core. Xi is a committed communist, they feel that they are justified in destabilizing the west as revenge for the "century of humiliation". Eurofags need to get it though their heads we aren't your enemy so stop antagonizing us.
You understand that destroying America from within on purpose HELPS China though?
blame trump
American is dead
he cares about being a well liked individual (hence him breaking down and shutting off his latest twitch stream), and republicans are going to hate him when their jeans cost twice as much and they can't afford a new tv with a 50% price increase
its so over
I agree. Outsourcing all the good paying manufacturing jobs to places like China, destroying the non-college educated middle class, and accruing a massive amount of debt through trade deficits and a continually expanding welfare state while letting the rich get richer was destrying America from within.
Okay but he burned his bridges with liberals years ago, and they certainly aren't going to take him back now that he's been exposed as an insecure babyfur who talks to himself with sockpuppet accounts on Twitter
Eurofags need to get it though their heads we aren't your enemy so stop antagonizing us.
You should tariff them more and suck up to Russia harder as a show of friendship.
America threw away their hegemony because they were bored
hell yeah brother $1200 eggs lets gooooooo
Liberals took in Liz Cheney and her ilk. They even talked fondly of Bush after Trump came into the picture.
You don't understand republicans. They would actually get mad at the proposal of universal healthcare.
The American Empire is dead and you're not cheering. Are you an imperialist?
Liberals took in Liz Cheney and her ilk
And they lost for it
Also Liz Cheney's biggest crime was voting against Trump a handful of times, not being a billionaire that buys up elections lol
the current system is better than whatever the shit trump is coming up with
Oh, I'm happy about it, I just find it absurd that so many Trump supporters are seemingly bragging about it
Do they not know what they've done?
Liz biggest crime is being the daughter of Dark Vader (before Trump), her father. (He was really scary back in the day.)
Okay but she herself was not really responsible for any of that, she's just a nepo-baby
something is wrong with you for defending this
my chinesium egg imports are going to cost me $1200? fuck donald blumpf!
You should have voted for the statue quo.
More like nothing for the burgers lmao
current system is better than the new unknown system than I haven't lived in yet
Might as well try.
You've been following Trump and his cult for almost a decade and you only now find their behavior absurd?
Then you're just too young to remember how evil Cheney and his spawn (by association and blood) were.
They're fucking retarded, anon. We've been trying to tell you for a while now. He could literally shit in their mouths and they'd cheer.
it's free nutrition
it'll create jobs for the dentists
Don't even try to bull shit us, Brother.
dude if you walk a little and eat less you'll never need medical care
piss in bottles
I worked at two Amazon buildings, this doesn't happen. Also worked with some lazy ass people. Not to imply that conditions are great.
Not for a heart attack.
we're so back
Why wouldn't they? Euros that have such systems are all poor asf and have to pay absurd tax rates to fund them.
everyone loves le socialism and le free stuff
It's not free. Not at all. And you're an idiot.
Isn't this picture out of date lol
Red or green, the only thing worth looking at is zooming out. You monkeys only pay attention to the colors so if something goes down 10% but goes up 1% so your monkey brain now sees that it's green you're happy
USA is turning into north korea v2 fast
Fuck off commie
Maoist China actually
More like the Second British Empire.