Why doesn't Chris Avellone come out and say that Krei is Arren Kae? It's literally spelled out for you in the game

Why doesn't Chris Avellone come out and say that Krei is Arren Kae? It's literally spelled out for you in the game.

Jedi Masters never call Kreia by her original name, only 'you'

Atris says, "*laughs* Kreia? That is not her name..."

Dates of Arren Kae's vanishing and Brianna's mother are exactly the same time.

Kreia fondly remembers her past to you when recollecting "Arren Kae".

He's not legally allowed to.

I feel like atton saying "she might've been beautiful once" right after peragus was a reference to this line, but that might just be me stretching it.

There's like 100 references to it, but I hadn't enough time to list them all and wanted to get this thread on the catty cuz Anon Babble needed it. dogshit ass board

I really love the feeling of creeping dread that hangs over this game. Every time I play it, it feels like something really, really bad is coming that i can't see or even comprehend.

Why not

it has one of the best musical scores of all time for any videogame. very atmospheric.

It mirrors the OT. 1 emulates the feel of ANH, alot more whimsical and the endgoal is destroying a superweapon. 2 feels alot like ESB with the encroaching darkness of the villains and a sinister foe masterminding the whole thing. Shame it didn't get its ROTJ.

Shame it didn't get its ROTJ.

Kinect Star Wars.

You were feeling SWTOR

I loved how empty nar shaddaa felt

because you're supposed to put it together yourself

He changed his mind on it
In his first draft she was Arren Kae but later he decided against it
Due to time constraints he wasn't able to remove all the hints from the game

In his first draft she was Arren Kae but later he decided against it

Due to time constraints he wasn't able to remove all the hints from the game

this makes zero sense. there's no other point to the arren kae character then

Peragus was great. I liked the mystery and feeling like you were being stalked. Also the sound effects and music make it feel like the OT

M4-78 wasn't that bad

>Jedi Masters never call Kreia by her original name, only 'you'

>Atris says, "*laughs* Kreia? That is not her name..."

but how could they say that if they never seen her? she's invisible to every character except you and bao dur. it's really obvious if you pay attention.

Atton and Canderous acknowledges her numerous times

but how could they say that if they never seen her? she's invisible to every character except you and bao dur. it's really obvious if you pay attention.

They have seen Arren Kae before though. Also you miss the last part where Kreia revels herself to Atris.

Then how did she end up in the cell in Atris' lesbian training facility?

the handmaidens? atris never saw kreia or felt her presence

kreia is explicitly Revan’s original teacher who raised from a padawan

arren kae is explicitly Revan’s original teacher who raised him from a padawan

What did Chris mean by this?

I like how it's not completely spelled out for you. Like Kreia is cheeky and coy about it. But the Exile has his suspicions of course. But doesn't ask because it's not his business. But then he fucks her daughter so ya know....

Brianna is bestgirl. Miraluka xenofuckers begone.

I really want to write a KOTOR II fanfiction. The game is ripe for it.

mandalore, do you know anything about this place?

THIS is a DROID. PLANET.

hk, do you know anything about this place?

this IS a drOID woRLd

Its honestly worth going back and redubbing it with AI.
I recently cloned Visas Marr and now I have her voiced playing pazzak with me, as well as inserting random comments throughout the world via trigger.

I may also her say she loves me via AI. Forever alone rageguy face here.

…actually I have been considering a shitpost mod that will only activate on easter egg mod (game completed=3 in the ini) where you can click on the bunks in ebon hawk, selecting “charge up her loading ramp” prompting it to cut to Kreia saying “Betrayal!” Then losing and gaining influence with Kreia and well as Dark and light side points.
That would be really easy to do to. No AI needed.

At least you can fuck Visas

Watching a 3D movie together =/= having sex
EVERY ending has you leave Visas behind forever, sexless

Visas is just a mindfucked clingy weirdo. Handmaiden loves you and wants to bare you strong sons.

That's a good way to summarize it. There's this feeling of a calm before a storm that permeates through the game, I blame the soundtrack.

Mindfucked clingy weirdos deserve love and redemption arcs too.

i told him not to.

Atton actually explains Handmaiden doesn’t love you, she just wants to fix you. Its a really obscure conversation that is hard to trigger (you need to fuck up with Handmaiden completely and make her mad).

Visas wants you to give her cuddles.

SWEATY NASTY SMELLY THREESOME WITH BRIANNA VISAS MARR AND JEDI JESUS EXILE.

Man, why would you wanna fuck something that has no goddamn eyesockets? You take off the cranial covering and its like looking at a nightmare.

KOTOR 2 is the reason of why Shitsney wars philosophy of "force is le bad" exists and ruined the franchise

I haven't watched Yidsney Wars but I can say with some certainty you're gay and full of shit

It's extremely easy to trigger but everyone these days follows guides to deal with kotor 2's retarded influence system

In the cut lightside ending you and Atton fuck off and leave everyone else behind

you fags were hired by them and ruined the franchise forever

The Force isn't bad though. The only telling you this is someone whos incredibly flawed and has immersed herself heavily into the dark side with sadistically likeminded individuals like Sion or a complete animal like Nihilus.

still no source

You can kill yourself any time now

KOTOR threads are like the last bastion of what is good on Anon Babble

nigger

I still don't understand how or why Kreia and Sion worked with Nihilus. The dude was living entropy and could have killed either of them with a thought.

Yes, game is shit.
I bet writers themselves dint understood most of the shit they write.

Mark Griskey will forever be based for being such a great composer, and also for the fact he convinced LucasArts to pay for the actual orchestra instead of relying on MIDI like Soule did.
It's a shame how his career ended, but that's what you get for being a stupid boomer.

They never say "Kreia is Arren Kae, Handmaiden's mother" but it's basically confirmed by virtue of every conversation involving them serves to link them together in a cohesive timeline
I really don't think that's the case, but to come back to the question of "why avellone don't just confirm it" is because kotor2 is self contained and it's canon is basically divorced from eu novelization, swtor and disney wars so "what is canon" is a complicated topic to get into

It's amusing how we're supposed to believe he's a super scary guy who can vacuum entire planets. Outside of dialogue he's a complete jobber
TSL has a major problem with telling and never showing

because kotor2 is self contained and it's canon is basically divorced from eu novelization

Nice headcanon.

saar

I think you missed the part where the Exile is a force wound and essentially invisible to something like Nihilus. Basically The Exile is the end stage of what Nihilus will become

It's true

Outside of dialogue he's a complete jobber

The Exile is a living hard counter to Nihilus. Seems to me you weren't listening to the dialogue lol.

Exile is the mirror opposite of Nihilus. He would Nihilus if he didn’t cut himself off from the force at malachor.

Yes, that's exactly the "we mention it in dialogue so believe us it's totally real" problem I'm talking about

Basically The Exile is the end stage of what Nihilus will become

This is retarded if you stop and think about it

A disturbance in the Force?

why Kreia and Sion worked with Nihilus

They were the strongest around and their skills complimented each other in terms of governing a sith faction

could have killed either of them with a thought

He would just be forever locked in a fight with Sion, just killing him forevere and him always getting back up.
Nice bait, but he instakills everyone he meets with lifedrain until he tries it on exile which backfires hard. His mere presence drains everyone around him passively and his star destroyer only moves around because he pulls it through space himself. He rapes every powerscale hard

instead of relying on MIDI like Soule did

wait a fucking second is that true?
i always thought it was a live recording lol

He would just be forever locked in a fight with Sion, just killing him forevere and him always getting back up.

He'd just succ the Force out of him and be done with the zombie jobber. Sion is literally just a rotten corpse without the Force to hold him together.

Nihilus tries to eat the exile and gets fucked up by it because of the exile's force wound

could have killed either of them with a thought

He would just be forever locked in a fight with Sion, just killing him forevere and him always getting back up.

This is why they cut that scene by the way. Sion and Nihilus are like itchy and scratchy.

Basically The Exile is the end stage of what Nihilus will become

No, it's more like they found themselves in the same situation on Malachor and Exile chose to cut himself from the force (turn his back on power) and Nihilus accepted it instead, which resulted in their similar but opposite conditions

Sex with Visas.

Sex with Mission

people can't even agree on why Nihilus is vulnerable to the Exile

This is proof of how bad the wounds in the force shit is
Mask of the Betrayer did it much better. It had a direct impact on the story AND affected gameplay

He's a serial hardcore rapist now (exonerated)

Nothing beats Mandalorian Battle from K1 for me

>people can't even agree on why Nihilus is vulnerable to the Exile

Doesn't matter on this board, it's filled with retards who thought Kreia was telling the exile to never do anything after the whole beggar thing.

Not a battle theme, but the march they made out of Obi Wan’s theme from ANH is awesome.
youtu.be/9mzK7QAGlUs

Some people just don't remember. MoB is good also, very similar to kotor2 in spirit

MotB is Kotor 2 two. It really deserves more credit, its basically Kotor 2 but actually finished.

Being "just an expansion" really killed its influence.

In that way its a terrible expansion because of how far superior it is to the base game

support space trump on Onderon

locked into the dark side ending

I just thought his policies were better...

be nice to Visas

Handmaiden REEEEEEEEs and refuses to speak with you for the rest of the game

be that way, whore

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allies himself with the Sith

actively violates human rights

applies martial law to the entire city just to ensure his blatant power grab

It's a shame there's option to show the middle finger to both Vaklu and Talia

they should have allowed me to cuck kavar desu...

Visas is vocal in her support of space blumpf.

handmaiden is a talia supporter.

As if Visas couldn’t get any better.

people in this thread unironically think selling out to the cult of DS psychos makes Valku based

You know whats funny? Most planets, Onderon included list in the game files the choices as “good ending” and “bad ending” but for whatever reason, siding with Czerka or the Ithorians BOTH are registered as “good ending” for Telos.

reminder even Sion is more civil to you than the J*di Council

siding with Czerka or the Ithorians BOTH are registered as “good ending” for Telos.

Probably because both can be good for Telos but for different reasons.

They both work for planet's restoration so it makes sense in a way

Czerka is cartoonishly evil at all times. Siding with Talia is about as retarded good as siding with Chodo.

Vrook is such a faggot
desu from a utilitarian standpoint helping czerka enslave wookies should give you light side points since I'm pretty sure the benefits for the galaxy they would generate as slaves would outweight the amount of suffering they will endure in bondage

He wouldn't have had to if cuck Queen Talia wasn't selling out to the Republic and using them to squash him
I got sick of defending the Ithorians from walmart
Like you literally get a call from them begging for help as soon as you're about to leave Telos station. No way they survive more than an hour once you're gone for good

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He wouldn't have had to if cuck Queen Talia wasn't selling out to the Republic and using them to squash him

t. Tobin

enjoy getting your life sucked out, fagot

if it's spelt out in the game why do you need confirmation from someone outside of the game?

In the video game Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, if General Vaklu prevails with the backing of Meetra Surik in the Onderon Civil War, Kreia specifies that "Vaklu will have a short reign, but Onderon's independence will persist." She also states that by leaving the Republic forever, Onderon will preserve its traditions, customs, lore and identity—just as Vaklu and many of his supporters had hoped to do.

Sounds based to me!

Meetra Surik

dumbest name in star wars

Too bad this never happens because Vaklu is a fag

Elan Sleazebaggano

kish du-kish

It sounds like a name you'd give to a rodian or one of the other retarded alien species

When disney shoahed the canon, we got to decide for ourselves. Mee-Too Suckass, Revan Cheerleader isn’t canon. Jedi Jesus, Genocider of the Mandalorians and Charger of Loading Ramps is canon.

that's what you get for being a stupid boomer

QRD? Wikipedia only says he directed scores for quite a few other video games.

Jedi Jesus

Worst male portrait right next to the ginger dude

The Exile is his kryptonite. Or like seeing a vampire rip apart legions of armed men in plate armor but being killed by a cross.

I personally use a mod that lets me use Berun’s head.

this one looks really fitting in-game, old enough but not too much

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I like this one too for a light side Exile romancing Disciple

letting men on the Yuri Hawk

Why would you support the guy who openly allies himself to an evil religious cult built around murder and betrayal?