Literally nothing has changed

Literally nothing has changed

Okay, and how does this affect me on Steam?

By this logic, shouldn't my salary also have increased by 35% since 2017? So why is it still the same?

Oy vey stop with the antisemitism

Anon, delete this please

why is it still the same?

If you haven't either negotiated a raise, been promoted, or left to find a higher paying job after 8 YEARS then something is very fucking wrong.

my salary has more than tripled since 2017. idk how anyone can realistically not have had a 35% increase since 2017 even based off legal regulations in any country i can think of. that's 4.3% per year which is below inflation. i know most people on this board have never worked before but this is bs

yeah nothing at all, only THIRTY FUCKING PERCENT INFLATION YOU CUNT.

I have no degree or other job experiences. Everything I know I had to learn from this one job in 2010. I'm pushing 40, and quitting now would be a suicide

You didn't really answer his question.

video games are a very good indicator of inflation. they've always cost about $60 circa 5 years ago. the fact that they're $80 for the switch is more of a reflection on our inflation than nintendo being greedy (which they are being)

absolutely fucking grim that the thing waking people up to how bad inflation has gotten is a fucking bing bing wahoo console

But games sell tens of millions of copies, and don't have any physical or reproduction costs, why doesn't the scale bring the price down?

My salary has increased by more than that much since 2017. Did you not job hop??

see the funny part is that this implies that there are games worth 60 dollars, let alone a racing game for children.

No, they're not. They cost nothing to mass produce.
The amount of people buying games increases every year which makes up for any increase in price.
Increasing the price will reduce sales because who the fuck in the right mind would pay 80 dorra for bing bing wahoo?

cartoon vidya prices cost bajillions to produce and cant be shat out at alarming speeds for pennies

nintendofags become inflation experts to cope with the newest kikery

60 isn't 80

prices didn't change but we pay more
graphics didn't change but games run slower
games didn't change but take more space
development didn't change but it take ages to a release game.

I am not responsible for the amount of money printed and I don't feel like it's right that nintendo uses me to absorb the effects of inflation. It's like you always see motherfuckers complain that inflation goes up xx% but pay has only increased y%. Nigga the guy who owns 4 Wendy's ain't responsible for the Fed and Treasury, vote different if you don't want inflation shrinking your paycheck, don't cry to someone who had no control over it.

Now show salary, costs of living, housing, etc...Also you're assuming everyone in 2017 already was in the job market but if you were born in 2000 you were still in high school. Also even in the cozier better paying jobs we're living at times when they do anything in their power to suppress wages and get rid of anyone who is too expensive and replace them with jeets.

I think people are mad about paying $20 extra dollars for video games because that's on top of everything else exploding, rent doubling or even tripling in some areas with all of those expenses shrinking people's disposable income. Then they wonder why nobody wants to have kids.

incorrect, all of it got worse.

did you read my fucking post? i said it was a good indicator of inflation because the price to value for a new game is relatively consistent. i said nothing about producing anything, nor sales figures, *just* the price in relation to historical values and inflation. where the fuck did your dumb ass pull any of that shit from? read my post and try again, faggot

Games have been $60 since 2005. Real gamers want the price to go up, but faggots, trannies and reddit want a race to the bottom because they think work is exploitation.
People who want actual quality in video games would be happy paying $300 if it meant the overall quality of games improve. The way it is now people just spend $60 on ten games and the quality only goes down

If you keep making shit then I'll keep waiting for deep sales. I can hold out forever with this arrangement, praise be to backlog.

In my shitty dead-end job I get a yearly salary increase of 3-8% so yes

missing the point because minimum wage hasnt increased, wages havent
just price gouging and cancerous markets raping your ass

you are delusional if you think anything about quality will improve with a price increase, the quality has been dramatically lessened over the years, they are going to be making ai games with ai assets and raking in millions like palworld

I suffer! devs should suffer too!!

Why are Anon Babble browns like this

It should have. If it didn't, it's a skill issue.

a 20 dollar price increase*
Yes it won't I agree, 300 is the minimum.
Your backlog is full of the same shit, you will be board after 2 games

I'd agree with you, but I seriously doubt these 10 or 20 bucks increase will go to quality, devloppers wages, or general improvements.
Most will go to the company and shareholders

It should. It's still the same because you're okay with that. The government can't make you grow a pair and ask for a raise or get a better paying job

Because that's what has the most pressure. The fact that there is no pressure towards making a quality product is the death nail for this era of gaming. The bubble will burst a few years after tech stops advancing.

Crabs in a bucket.

Most will go to the company and shareholders

Some of it will go to that, and some of it will go to an increased marketing budget in the form of them paying zoomers on Twitch five figure payouts just for streaming the game for a couple hours. Not a single penny extra will go to making the game better.

the price of this good has been disconnected from inflation for a long time, so it's a good inflation indicator

???

Your wagies also increased with the inflation right? You can buy an house just as easy as your working class dad did right?

Because capitalism. How are the business owners expected to stay rich if they have to raise employee wages at the same rate as inflation?

true
I am so fucking tired of millenial manchildren crying about games rising in price for the first time since they were kids

I own a house and my dad doesn't, so yeah.

Some people pay thousands on single games that are complete dogshit, even f2p. I really don't understand how publishers choose their monetization model, but yeah I guess if your game isn't online it's hard to get people to pay for micro-transactions.

Glad tendies now understand inflation, would be a shame if they suddenly forget about it as soon as other consoles get released.

You people are idiots.
The price has fuck all to do with inflation.
Inflation didn't make Donkey Kong Country 2 cost 80 bucks back in the 90s.
Console games had (emphasis on the word HAD) always run a price range between 40 to 80 bucks. It's just that with the passage of time game prices have been pushing towards 80 rather than 40.
When was the last time you guys saw a console game going for 40 bucks brand new?

this definitively isn't the norm for an average worker, which coincidentally is the intended audience for video games

When it's shit? Likewise if an $80 game is good more people will buy it than if it were shit. Having a higher price justifies putting effort into the quality of the product. Simply due to the fact that if a game is overpriced the publisher makes LESS money

Actually $59.99 literally isn't $79.99 so yes something has changed.

I don't care how much the game costs. If it's good enough to justify the price I will buy it. No point hand wringing over $20. A higher average price of games just means I buy less new games. Unless you are a literal child who wants the new shiny this doesn't matter at all.

oi, that’s antisemitism.

When was the last time you guys saw a console game going for 40 bucks brand new?

Ratchet & Clank PS4 was $40. I liked what Sony did with pricing during the PS4 era, certain games were cheaper like The Gravity Rush Remaster depending on if they were older, shorter or simply smaller in scope. Plus the prices eventually permanently got down ontop of regular sales and discounts.

And do you think voting out the dude that supported unions, blocked mergers and banned non-competes for regular employees has helped with what's the norm for negotiating power of an average worker?

Shit games have nothing to do with it so much as game developers just drawing prices out of a hat.
I bought Earthworm Jim for 50 and Super Metroid for 55. Neither of those are "developmentally inferior" to a $60 game from that era.

Not train unions tho

democratic power apparatus tells uncle joe he's done and has to drop out of the race

voting out

This is what the party who tells you democracy is endangered with a republican win believes.

Now look up real disposable income which didn't went up by 30% but more like 20%
fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DSPIC96

80 isn't much in general but it's too much for a game cartridge for the poorfag console.
Trying to argue with inflation gonna bite you in the ass, when everything is expensive people will cut unnecessary expenses first. 80 bucks for a vidya is unnecessary - there are tons for 5 bucks on the market.

If the problem is capitalism, why is the situation far worse in the UK?

UK

not capitalist

UK

More capitalist than the US

?

I'm making 3x more than I did in 2017, sounds like a skill issue.

he thinks capitalism shafting the workers in favor of the business owners works on a scale

lol
lmao

2017

2017

2017

Ok. And remind me what was the price of a new Mario game in 2024?

Literally yes, your salary should have increased from eight (8) years ago. It’s not nintendo’s fault you fucked that up. The people who are creating products at nintendo ARE affected by inflation — their cost of living has increased by the exact percent the products they’re creating have. It literally makes perfect sense.

digital games cannot be compared to burgers. a game is replicable infinitely. a burger must be made again and again.

Reminder that communist China lived worse than Africans until Deng set up totally-not-capitalism-because-we-called-it-somethin-else-zones.

their cost of living has increased

but the yen has fallen. they get more for 60 USD now than they did eight years ago.

Xir thinks the UK is more capitalist than the US

Le Mao

By your logic, should nintendo still price things as if it were the year they were founded — 1889?

retard STILL thinks capitalism shafting employees works on a scale

The only retard here making claims that the UK is more capitalist is you, fagola.

That isn’t true, the yen has risen since 2017.

60 usd in 2017 = 6600 yen

80 usd in 2025 = 12000 yen

almost double the price. absolute jewry

because you accept less

You're not supposed to ask this question.

So why is DK 10 bucks cheaper?

Yet the UK was impacted by capitalism more heavily despite being less capitalist?

the yen has risen since 2017.

retard alert

he STILL thinks capitalism works on a scale

There's no helping you.

Why would the UK "be less capitalist" than anywhere else?
We fucking love capital.

retard STILL thinks capitalism shafting employees works on a scale

Pay rates have changed since then, juan

What is a social democracy?

??? google it

What is avoiding the question?

Why would the UK "be less capitalist" than anywhere else? We are capitalists. We love Capital.

the uk is one of only 2 countries that has fully privatised water
shut the fuck up

See these inflation faggot threads.

Be a game developer.

The price and cost of video game creation hasnt changed.

The only thing that did change was paying more for marketing and more for voice actors.

My and others wages havent changed.

In fact, newer developers wages are far lower!

Some of you fuckers are making more then we do just being a pipe fitter, fact.

Some queer on Anon Babble will scream that MUH INFLATION MUH COST!

You actually think flipping assets costs a lot? What the hell are you idiots on right now.

We have millions of lines of code that we just plug and play.

Anon Babble always screams how some video games play like others.

WELL NO SHIT!

Please keep wanting to pay more

Inflation number go up, so Yen stronk!

No, don't check the GDP!

fully privatised water

What does that mean? What's the other country?

What is a social democracy?

"M-Maybe if I repeat my retardation, h-he'll go away"

Cute. Want to give a real answer now?

It doesn't help that more often than not, Nintendo games tend tostay at their release prices or increase in price, rather than decrease.
Why is it that Xenoblade 2 is still being sold for $60, despite it being an 8 year old game, and two additional Xenoblade games coming out between that time and now?
And just because I ddin't happen to buy a physical copy during a time i didn't have a Switch, I might just have to pay more.

This excludes Scotland where water is not deregulated, but depending on your location in the country, you will have a water company bill you, not the state. You cannot change your water company.

I'll continue ignoring the response, rendering it irrelevant!

inflation cope

you were calling this out when it was used against the PS5 Pro though

You haven't explained your answer yet. Why not? Can't do it?
Tell me WHY you think you are correct. You won't. Becasue you can't.

READ NIGGER

I live in the UK and I can change my water company whenever I like.
Is this a scotland thing?

if you don't get any raise after a fully year and you haven't slacked off/fucked up somehow then you should leave. don't even ask for a raise, don't threaten anything. just quietly find a new job and leave.
I've hopped jobs 3 times since 2017 and quintupled my salary. The last two hops were because I was unhappy with an 11% and a 4% raise respectively.

that's cool
can i get cashback for games i paid 60 dollars before 2017?

And why do you think this means the UK likes Capital less?
Go ahead. Be very specific.

being working-class in the uk means getting trampled by the upper class until your entrails squirt out... then being misdiagnosed by an indian doctor and killed by a nigerian surgeon with a fake degree

we love capital

The price and cost of video game creation hasnt changed.

But that's wrong.
vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Most_expensive_video_games
As an example, San Andreas had a development cost of 10 mil. The next game in the series cost 10x more to make.

what a weird post

because of a war and civil war.
look at houses at your top pic. they was obv destroyed.

euros-americans come, destroy anything they can

LOOK! YOU LIVE BAD!!

thanks to you!

Businesses can, but not households.

It's not "less capitalist" anon. It's just capitalist.
One country isn't "more capitalist" just because it screws employees over 2 more dollars. Nor is it less just because it doesn't.
That's why you keep getting told it doesn't operate on a scale, it's binary. It's either capitalism or it's not.

I'm a household. I changed from one water comapny to another just last year.
Why do you think I can't do this in the UK? Do you live in the UK?

you can buy more banana for your 1 apple

banana has risen!!

tendies are so bad at math

what company?

It's not "less capitalist"

So your earlier claim wasn't true? Thanks for the confirmation that you were wrong.

That's why you keep getting told it doesn't operate on a scale

You're confusing me with someone else

ofwat.gov.uk/households/your-water-company/changesupplier/

Yes. That is how people understand inflation.
A objective base price that was set in the past increased by a determined fixed rate.

GTAV has 10x more content than IV but only cost 30% more.

If an economic model sits in a middle ground between capitalism and socialism, it is inherently less capitalist.

From 2017 you can change your water company

Thanks. I changed mine in 2024.

One Welsh Water Company to Another.
Both very local, so I don't really want to give you literally my postcode.

Anon, you're describing socialism.

it is inherently less capitalist.

Why? Give one (1) reasosn.

you are braindead

non-household customers

Anon...
ofwat.gov.uk/households/your-water-company/contact-companies/

So any county with any level of capital is just as capitalist as any other? Can you name a SINGLE country that isn't capitalist by your standard?

You're retarded. Wages have stagnated across the board and have for DECADES compared to rising costs of inflation and living expenses. EVERYTHING is more expensive but people aren't making more.

And retards like you are like "hurr it's your fault". No the system is fucked retard no one's pay is increasing.

Vanuatu.

This is only speaking about England anyway. Not the whole of the UK, like we were discussing. It's not relevant regardless.

Because the economy runs more on public spending than on capital.

And your proof of this is...where? Show me.

Can you not see Wales pictured in the image? You supposedly live there

in what way is it worse in the uk

I do live here. And I changed water suppliar last year.
So where does the law specifically say I can/cant' do this in Wales? The last law you sent me specified it was for England only.

I don't know what to tell you man. Only businesses should be able to change water supplier.
Ofwat covers England and Wales here ofwat.gov.uk/households/your-water-bill/billing-agents/
You should check your bills.

That law was changed in 2017 according to your own sources.
Non-business households have been able to change water supply since 2017.

For non-household customers. Read please.

MOST

Meaning that you don't HAVE to be one. Get it?
The law changed in 2017. Learn to read Legal-Jargon.

you will have a water company bill you, not the state. You cannot change your water company

This is every country. Public utilities are government-regulated monopolies.

NON-HOUSEHOLD

there is no "higher paying jobs"

MOST

Tell me why you think that means "LITERALLY ANY AND ALL"? Go ahead.

'MOST NON-HOUSEHOLD' MEANS BUSINESSES YOU FUCKING DAFTY

Most non-households

By definiton, that includes "Some households".
Again, learn Legal jargon before you attept to read it.
It's worded very specifically for a reason. It's meant to be open to interpritations like mine, by design.

Being willingly retarded is not an interpretation.

enjoy your deportation to latam traitor

People who want actual quality in video games would be happy paying $300 if it meant the overall quality of games improve

Modern games ARE 300 dollars after DLC, microtransactions and other horseshit you fucking retard.

are you earning 30% more?

So where do you live anon? Why do you think you're an expert on this topic? Have you ever changed water provider before in the UK?
I have.

I live in England. I have not changed water supplier as it is impossible. I also work in the utility industry and have done for over 10 years. If you have changed water supplier you have done something wrong and should check your bill to make sure you are not paying 20% business rate VAT.

Silly goy

I also work in the utility industry and have done for over 10 years

HAHAHAHAH!
Post your ID badge, my dad used to have one.
You can cover your face/name/ID number. I'll know if it's legit or not.
Go ahead, or you're a confirmed liar. Your choice.

promoted

Being promoted means you have additional responsibilities and job duties which naturally comes with higher pay. The guy doing the job you had 8 years ago is not being paid 35% more today than you were back then.

I don't work for a water company. I said in the utility industry. I don't have a badge as my company is independent

I don't work for a water company

And I think I know the ins-and-outs of the water company

Cute. Thanks for admitting you were misinformed and incorrect about this.
I'm not getting charged extra for my water btw, standard household rates.

I have 2k games between steam, ps3 and 4 and i've never paid more than 25 bucks.

I posted my sources from government bodies which counteracted your claims. That you have managed to switch water supplier goes against the rules and what is supposed to happen.