Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be shit isn't it?

just make skyrim2 how hard is that?

What expectations? I'm expecting Skyrim 2.0, and I mean that in the most negative way I can. If they don't go back to attributes this series is dead to me.

GOOD MORNING SAARS

YOU ARE THE SWORDBORN

DO NOT REDEEM RPG

This was said by Bruce Nesmith in a discussion about video game expectations on a podcast long after he left Bethesda. This slop journalist has sensationalized it to make it sound like Bethesda is bracing people to be disappointed, and OP is a massive faggot posting a screenshot of a misleading headline

Take Skyrim

Improve combat system

New map of equal or greater size to Skyrim.

Expectations met

Its not hard. Everything sucks now, if they just redo what they did 14 years ago in a new setting I'll be content.

ahhh it's impossible to make a game better than Skyrim

it's literally not even the best game Bethesda themselves have made

what is wrong with these morons

Skyrim was way too linear and had a shit leveling system sure the normies ate it up because for most zoomers this was their first rpg. Who would be excited for another linear walking simulator, when everyone hopes for a good new game is super low?

what is wrong with these morons

The entire industry decided to hire college educated female writers and outsource all the icky coding to indians.

Elder Scrolls Online

Fallout 76

Wokeshit Starfield

You tell me

refuse to replace your decade old dogshit gamebryo engine

refuse to alter your baseline game concept

same dogshit animations every game

same jank ass gunplay/melee combat

same bugfest

same weird faces

same shitty graphics

"these expectations are unrealistic!!!!"

lol

LISTEN UP CHUDS! This game is going to take place in hammerfell! Do not let this opportunity for funny memes slip through your fingers! Its ok to be racist, but stop being so fucking uptight about it! Use your hate! Make funny memes about the absurdity of it all!
Stop sulking and posting boring unfun shit like steam charts and use that mush between your ears to make some memes that might endure a little bit! Be racist, but for ffs be funny too!

What is even left for them to 'streamline' and cut?

Perks removed, now linked to equipment tiers/'rarity'

stat gains are automatic, you gain stamina, magika and health every level

Equipment now way more RNG based, crafting only creates 'common' variants, grind that dungeon 100 times to get what you need

Enemies include bandits, pirates(bandits, draugr(bandits), dragonlords(bandits) and the final boss is the destroyer of worlds except not alduin(Bandit)

It’s being developed by Indians. If course it’s going to be shit. Literally

take nearly 20 years to put a game out

surprised pikachu face when expectations have built up over that time

As far as I can tell all they have to do is make a polished Skyrim with better combat and better written quests/characters and most people will be satisfied. Skyrim plus Baldur's Gate 3 and they'd have a money printer.
Their mistake would be to crank scale too much, waste time on nonsense gimmicks and inject heaps of junk into the game like Starfield.

Marketing departments are crying

The fuck does the Marketing team have to cry about? They aren't the ones making the game.

Literally all fans wanted was Skyrim 2 but with improved graphics and animations and a different environment.

Even Phil played that shit and knew it wasn’t going to be the next Skyrim.

can't sell porkies because stupid game devs won't do their jobs properly

Probably crying about the eventual buckbreaking that will happen when the shareholder mandated purges start kicking off.

gee i dunno anon
have the last 3 games Bethesda put out not been complete shit?
how could this surprise anyone at this point

It would help if bethesda could make a good game, or even a passable one. Why is it that whenever I hear a dev say "no way to live up to fan expectations", the product is actually shit by an objective measure?

Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be shit isn't it?

Like other games in the series? Guys, it was never good, just le open world enough to your childish brain to explode back then

They work in marketing though? Their job is to catch attention and has nothing to do with the qualitative expectations of a game. Even if they get laid off, I'd wager it's easier to find a new job as a marketer than a developer in something more specialized.

All it takes is making Skyrim with better graphics and a not so pathetic combat system and normies will eat it up like candy
Bar has never been lower

it will be extremely easy to meet fan expectations because their imbecile fans have no standards.

Bar has never been lower

It was until Balls Gay 3 came along. Now they have a standard that they know isn't attainable with their current talent on hand. No amount of government funding is going to fix that overnight.

Balding Gay 3 didn't increase the bar at all, the only thing it did was add le graffix & VA to cRPGs, something games like Skyrim and even Oblivion already have literally 15 years ago, but was still unheard of in cRPGs

What standard? Shitty mocap, ugly graphics and cringy voice acting? I think they can handle.

Depends on if they make everything proc gen and have a million loading screens ala Starfield, or have over simplified mechanics/systems like Fallout 4.

Todd knows TES is his main baby he can't fuck up no matter what, but after two major release fuck ups back to back (FO4 and Starfield) there's no way it's going to be as good as Skyrim, Oblivion, or Morrowind unless they handcraft the world and make sure the RPG systems are on point.

If it is still on Gamebryo (it is) then it will be. If they actually used that purchase of ID Software they made to migrate to ID Engine then it could be good. But we know they won't. Todd and his alcoholic frat boys... I mean developers... can't do much but replace the same assets in a new way over and over and over again.

Fallout 4 was a commercial and critical success, unlike Starfield which still sold good enough anyways, but wasn't received that well

starfield would have been great if its setting was written better
i dont like space liberalism vs space libertarianism vs snek

They could try making it good

could already be at the end of The Elder Scrolls SEVEN if not 8 by now if not for modern dev retardation

What the FUCK went so utterly wrong

Stop being a hater bro

Skyrim itself didn't meet my expectations from how big people talk it up

Like they literally just need to make Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 with magic. It's not that hard if a team of slavs can do it under 50 million dollars. You have Microsoft willing to fund you for 400 million.

Skyrim was literally 14 years ago
it was big because there was and there still isn't nothing like it + modding potential
Even if the gameplay is terrible

"Sir Howard! People are expecting a big empty map, no story, terrible writing, awful scaled loot, zero rpg elements, and awful combat. WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO??"

I like how they just released Skyrim in space. Like a whole galaxy-sized Skyrim and yet a new Elder Scrolls game set on a single island is too much. lol.

The story sucks, the enemy models suck, every choice you make is irrelevant, all the companions have the same morality. It honestly feels like they made fucked around for 5 years and then had to make a very rushed game in under 2 years.

How do you have so little content, so little enemy variety, so little moral conondrums. How does Mass Effect 1 beat you in terms of story quality?

Microsoft needs to dissolve bethesda and keep the IPs. the fucking company is run by morons who have an out of juice ages ago

send TES to the salt mines

stuck with yearly Skyrim demakes for the rest of your days

Truly a fate worse than death.

Has the marketing department considered just being honest?

If Bethesda was capable of making a good game then why did it choose to make a bad one? It didn’t because it can’t.

They could easily meet fan expectations if they just turned every NPC into an AI chatbot.
How are they not smart enough to realize that?

There are already mods that do this in Skyrim. Heck, they even kinda tried to do it in "Oblivion," hence its weird dialogue, but the technology wasn't there yet.
Now it is. The Elder Scrolls 6 is the easiest game to figure out, with the latest technological craze. They don't even need to have good graphics. Just have an entire world filled with independent NPCs and that'll be enough.

TL;DR Bethesda is full of retards.

always online

need a paid subscription just to play the game with NPCs enabled

Lul

You wouldn't need to do that. Although I can definitely see Bethesda trying to pull something like that.

[Perception] Elder Scroll 6 is...OH NO NO NO

people think tes6 will be like skyrim 2

it will actually be starfield with swords

Retard still crying about the engine

Being saying it since Slopout 4 released

What was your first clue?

there were people sad to see Pete Hines leave Bethesda

they were sad the head of marketing left

the same head of marketing who lied to people about roaming planets in Starfield

the same head of marketing who got hostile to people pointing out Bethesda wrote without a care for what came before

mfw

What's the key to immersive dialogue without a voiced protag?

hiring a good writer

Skyrim is already so lazy and scuffed its unreal
The environment and music are beautiful but every single quest is lackluster dogshit with no player agency or depth. And now they don't even have the music guy because he was problematic on Twitter or something gay like that.

Yes yes must use UE5!!!!! Beutiful game engine yes sir yes!

hiring a good writer

impossible

mfw watching the economy candidate that beat your party comply ruin the economy.jpg

nobody's talking about ue5, nigger. thats like trading crap for crap. bethesda need to properly upgrade their engine or make a new one entirely

What needs updating the most?

just make skyrim but in a new environment with new gear & enemies

maybe new lighting or reflections in dungeons

this is somehow impossible

Is it really that hard? If you already have all the code and stuff why not just make a bunch of new assets for something you know people like?

Can't wait to play tes6 in 2040!

lighting
anim
combat
generally make it run better

multi-billion dollar company confesses that making a good game is almost impossible

Developers make this statement when they abandon the game completely. Elder Scrolls is over.

They just need to make a game people feel like they can live in.

nigger

So, just general shit that's gotten better with each game?

l
why are you defending bethesda? you're not a bethesda employee are you?

It's actually hilarious how Bethesda parade around as a AAA company these days when all they have is the same ancient creationslop to show for it. Not only that they can't even make a half decent vidya with it anymore, they're literally a cargo cult parody of themselves.

we outsourced this game to india so chuds can't complain when the game is a broken mess

take skyrim

look at biggest mods

build new game from the ground up with all those included from the beginning

???

profit

The scary part is that this is them trying. They think they've knocked it out of the park, and its us gamers who are too retarded to understand how good their games are.

correct
no faith in beth here

How am I defending them by stating a simple fact? Retards keep complaining about the engine, yet have no actual criticisms for the engine. It's always the same "hur dur, it buggy, it ugly" shit. Everything unique about Bethesda games solely because of their engine.

In retrospect I can't believe I ever enjoyed Skyrim.

UE5

I said ID Engine retard. The one used for Indiana Jones/Doom.

Most of that doesn't actually sound bad. This obsession over RPG mechanics for their own sake is retarded and dungeon loot should definitely outclass crafting otherwise why ever do dungeons at all? Just fuck around at the town anvil.

hi, emil

You were five when it came out so it makes sense. Other people had already played good games before it came out.

Well the retard in ops image hasn't been working for Bethesda for four years and probably doesn't know anything anymore.

No rebuttal

As expected.
Also Emil is a shit writer and the BGS would be better off without him.

I was twenty one when it came out.

They're just admitting that they can't make anything better than a pile of shit?
I respect the honesty at least.

Dragons were always considered one the worst thing about Skyrim ironically enough. That and guild quests

They aren't saying the game is going to be shit. They are saying they can't meet fan expectations because fans are retards that hype themselves up on any piece of bullshit some anon shitposts. Case and point look at the rumored Oblivion remaster. Not only are people blindly believing its real, they expecting it to be Metal Gear Solid Delta levels of remake

70% of the questlines in the game are the worst thing about the game

What's even left? Radiant quests and porn mods?

Why would you want more RPG mechanics and RPG choices in your RPG game chud?

Get out of here Todd.

Dragons were like, the defining element of Skyrim.
It was the box point that separated it from Oblivion.

I hated having to pick perks every level. I'd much rather see those effects tied to unique equipment drops from dungeons.

Perhaps though Oblivion gates were also the defining element of Oblivion and those were garbage as well. I'd say dragons were less egregious since you'd kill them pretty fast at least unless they decided to just fuck off.

Anything to avoid using a design document for their games, or retiring Emil Pagliarulo

Dragons were like, the defining element of Skyrim

Nord Supremacy > Dragons

Dragons suck though. They show up at inconvenient times and kill townsfolk and drop nothing useful after you stock up a dozen each of the bones and scales.

Adventuring can be pretty comfy. They fucked up a lot of things in Skyrim but the world itself is still fun to explore.

It needs to

be under $30

have gfx on par with heavily modded Skyrim

run flawlessly on a 1060ti

be twice as big with twice as much content as Skyrim

be in a new engine that doesnt crash every 5 minutes

be equipped with a good modding API right out of the gate

have SkyUI as its UI (what the literal fuck were they thinking with Shartfield's UI?)

to even stand a chance.

Married now?

Or just do what Oblivion did and you gain a special perk ever 20-25 points into a skill?

sure, honestly I think games like TES could take some ideas from the likes of OSRS, with the way levels and skills are handled as well as diversity of equipment and character builds for specific activities.

Top screenshot

Dragon can dynamically perch on appropriate objects throughout the world. Can pick up NPCs and drop them to their death. Can follow the player throughout the entire map. Dragon spends most of it's time flying

Bottom Screenshot

Dragon cannot perch anywhere in the map. The dragon can die from fall damage. The dragon cannot freely fly and only flies for specific attacks. The dragon despawns if it leaves it's invisible arena and respawns with full HP.

It's insane how much better Skyrim's dragons are despite being a decade older and running on a system with 256mb of RAM.

But what if ES6 is somehow worse than Starfield?

Rest assured, not possible

They shouldn't be paying attention to marketing in the fucking first place. Marketing comes after your artistic work, not meddling in it. Not that modern Bethesda is actually talented either, but fuck those faggots, they deserve Starfield.

Even better exploitable hype low for Fallout 5, of course!

Then everyone will say that Starfield was actually good, and Todd can resell Starfield for a second time to take advantage of it.

Just do what fucking morrowind/Oblivion did, it's not that hard.
Equipment shouldn't have rarity levels like lite-RPG's like Diablo.

I'd be very impressed.

no one said anything about rarity levels. Just make some good abilities passive effects of equipment you can only find by defeating specific boss monsters in especially remote and laberinthine dungeons. It can be 100% drop, why not.

Isn't that just Elden Ring?

Have you ever played Elder Scrolls games? You're describing Enchantments.

Man if ES 6 and GTA 6 both end up being huge pieces of shit, guaranteed to cause the next video game market crash that DWARFS 1983.

I actually liked the Dark Brotherhood. It's true that "well, we just started doing it for money, fuck it." is realistically boring, but at least the way you become the leader was way more natural, as opposed to the thieves guild where you don't even have an incentive to stop Mercer and at the end (if you can even get there because of random radiant quests, lol) they just go "well, no one else wants to be the leader, so tag, you're it."

maybe, I haven't played it. But my impression is that the items in that game are solely in service of more combat, where in TES there could be other functions.

that's the problem. Besides daedric quest relics you can create better gear than you can find by exploring. That's lame as hell.

It's entirely their fault for taking such a long time on it, if the delay between it was the same as from oblivion to skyrim no one would have some grand GTA level expectations. If they don't want to deal with those then maybe they shouldn't take an eternity to work on their best series.

you know it's a western game because they put zero effort into making the dancers attractive (and by the looks of it, put effort into intentionally making them not attractive)

least the way you become the leader was way more natural

Not really, you don't raise through the ranks in the dark brotherhood and half of the jobs is the planning of the assassination of the emperor.
The player character starts the quest but leader lady does all the planning and makes you do all of the field work, none of the other characters in the sanctuary helps you in said field work. You only become the leader when the previous leader ends up dying and gets everyone else killed, except for the kid and black guy.

and yet the dragons are much more fun to fight in Elden Ring
it's almost like elden ring dragons are designed in a way that matches the way the game is played

no soule

no kirkbride

no kuhlmann

no adamowicz

emile is still there

You tell me anon.

We misunderstood why Neon's nightclub was called the CRAZIEST nightclub in the galaxy.

seriously they get these three fat autists to put on retarded outfits and kind of...dance? is that dancing?...in the middle of this tiny club. That place is fucking crazy, man. (i'd never go back.)

make very basic RPG mechanics that manages to make things even more complicated because it's vague about how the mechanics work

poor enemy variety, 80% of what you fight are bandits and draugr

dragons are the main spectacle of the game, and all they do is breathe fire and bite you

even the final boss of the main story is the same as every other dragon

alchemy + enchantment or smithing combo can easily break the game completely by endlessly upgrading your equipment

very basic enemy AI, and enemies never stagger unless you do a power attack, shield bash, or a powerful skill, in which case you can just stunlock them

level scaling

game still has terrible difficulty balance even with level scaling, where you'll either destroy everything or a chief bandit will just kill cam you at 80% health

The bar is set pretty low, they'll be fine.

Making another Skyrim wont meet anyone expectations anymore because Skyrim was many people's first big RPG when they had nothing to meausre it against.
It isn't possible to do this a second time in the current market.

You don't raise through the ranks

You kill 9 people in various situations and scenarios, and you're the listener. Granted, being the chosen one who can hear a corpse is very "you're the player, here's the excuse as to why you're important", at the very least it does involve you more.

Half the jobs are planning for the emperor

It wasn't half, and even then, doing jobs to lead up to the big one is a good thing. So what?

No one else helps you

The Argonian shows up at the wedding murder to help you, and Cicero becomes a follower if you let him live.

You only become the leader when the previous leader and everyone else gets killed.

Yes. Exactly. It's because of the way things play out that you, a now experienced assassin, who's also the listener, and who also kills the emperor, becomes the leader of the group after everyone gets killed except the informant and the Alchemist. That's a way better excuse for the player to become the leader of a guild than "no one else wants to do it".

It is a game that has other stuff to do, so spending 10 years as an assassin and working your way up a career ladder isn't a viable option here.

why is it so hard for these dumb asses to make another morrowind?

They won't learn anything.

At this rate, TES6 isn't going to have much more substance than a modern day "RPG" Assassin's Creed like this. Starfield was like that already. Honestly it's just fucking sad

76 is actually decent though because it was basically done by a side team and not the fags who worked on Starfield.

Besides daedric quest relics you can create better gear than you can find by exploring

That's the point, retard. There's an entire enchanting skill.
If you can find better things than you can craft, an entire skill is redundant.

Todd is a braindead football boomer. He collaborates with Pete and Emil who are the same breed as him.

They literally WANT the game to be as mundane and boring as possible, and that was obvious way back with Oblivion.

It's fucking insane, considering Todd's lies and the way he talks up his games and the blah blah blah immersion and choice and interactivity you would think the guy would LOVE Baldur's Gate 3 and think "Holy shit we need to do something of this level" But no, because he's a fucking fraud.

It was an accident, why do you think Nintendo never made anything as good as Super Metroid in 30 years?

were bethesda games ever good or were most games just bad back then?
I remember skyrim being pretty ass and just carried by mods

I don't think after Starfield anyone's expectations for Elder Scrolls 6 are very high.

Does the Pope shit in the woods?

it was carried by an unprecedented flood of normalfags entering the gaming market that had no idea what a good or what a bad video game even looks like

Then:

OUR GAME IS GOING TO BE BEE'S KNEES

Now:

ummm, don't expect too much, please...

its going to be medieval land with better graphics. Literally impossible for them to fuck this up.

How much more casual and busted can it get, really?

they might even surprise us by adding features back

sincr Skyrim AA studio made 2 games with better world, systems, cutscenes, dialogs, quest than all games Bethesda made since Skyrim combined

Humiliating. Todd probably had one look at KCD2 and tried adding 10 features yo the creation engine and broke it

FANS EXPECTATIONS

heh

Todd the fans want space vegas

SPACE VEGAS? SPACE VEGAS FUCK THE FANS FUCK THEM FUCK THEM REEEEEEEEEEE

Give them a drug planet with a shitty club with some ugly cunts dancing

lol

why do nv fags think every company will make vegas 2 for them lol.
You people are cretins

I said space vegas as in a casino. Apologize.

Retard

Also don't forget refusing to fire and replace dogshit veteran employees because of nepotism.

All they need to do is just Skyrim but in new setting, just bigass open world where you can go anywhere, build your house, marry, explore dungeons and etc. They've made tons of similar games, it's not that hard for them.

sorry we just can't make good games anymore because we just can't ok?

lol you are that mentally ill retarded nv fag slav that shits up fog.
Kys you mentally ill codex idiot.

You seem to think it will actually ever get released.

new vegas fags are lets face it a completely retarded fanbase.

Just means they're 1. Out of ideas and 2. out of talent. I'm currently playing Morrowind and having a blast. You got quest based on a Dev liking Duke and hating their college rival North Carolina. Something simple, but easy to build off of. Meanwhile you have fgts who don't know what their Gender is and forcing it in the game as "content".

But then you look at starfield and it's just bandits, the end boss is a bandit, every enemy is a bandit, bandits are the main spectacle of the game, no races, no skills, nothing to define anyone or anything, all guns function identically, there is no alchemy, every weapon is the same, level scaling that puts oblivion to shame, the laziest story in a bethesda game yet.
Everything about starfield is a step back from daggerfall fuck skyrim or anything newer. It's a joke.

Shartfield is their worst game yet, yes.
It retroactively made all their old games look better.
Todd is very cunning like that.

I feel like, if Todd Howard/Execs at Bethesda have any form of wherewithall, they will understand that Starfield put them in a horrid light and people are now wary of Bethesda's ability to even put out a buyable product. They should know at this point that if Elder Scrolls 6 is anything less than quality, or at least at the same level of quality as Elder Scrolls 5, then they'll likely be completely disregarded and probably go bankrupt from the time/resources it took to make ES6 along with poor sales.

Bethesda has to get their shit together and they need to be transparent about their announcements. If they go up and (re)announce ES6, and it's just the same "THIS WILL BE THE BIGGEST GAME YET AND IT WILL HAVE 5,000 NEW AWESOME FEATURES" then they'll lose whatever trust they had left. Todd needs to be telling people that they've fucked up and acknowledging that Bethesda's quality has tanked before people even consider buying ES6.

Bethesdas strategy has always been to up the graphics each release while ignoring almost everything else.
Then drop the game trailer with no warning to trick as many people as possible to buy it because its new and shiny.
Todds completely upfront about it.

They shouldn't be out of ideas at all. People never bought Skyrim just for the concept of le epic shouts or streamlined perks. They bought it for the setting, new scale of the world, and the themes of nordic mythology in a fantastical world. ES6 being in a new setting/region means that have all the ideas they need. The work was done decades ago.

Bethesda/Todd can do that, but at this point, it'd be studio suicide. They can only do it so many times and Starfield was the last time. The only reason Bethesda didn't completely eat shit from Starfield was because it was a new IP and if it sucked, people just wouldn't care.

Fucking up an Elder Scrolls title on the same level as Fallout 76 or Starfield would be cataclysmic. Bethesda would likely be shutter or the IPs handed to another studio.

they are going to do it again for TES6. The only hope is they keep the game relatively similar to Skyrim, that and improved graphics, it will be good.
Can't speak for the writing, if they have emil on it, it'll be garbage as usual

"Marketing Department just put their heads in their hands and weep"

More like they put their hands up their ass then ate.

TESVI failing will not only be expected but well deserved. People have been waiting for this since Horse Armor, the butchering of the Fallout IP and Memerim.

Skyrim was, in comparison, way better than Fallout 4, 76, and Starfield. If they made ES6 on the same level of Skyrim, that'd be considered a success by most.

if they have emil on it

They almost certainly will. Bethesda is notorious for being nepostic and will not fire long-time employees even if their work is dogshit and notoriously fucked up. Emil has been at Bethesda since Morrowind and since he got "Best Writing 2008" (SOMEHOW?) Todd Howard in his infinite wisdom thinks that he is the golden cow that can never be butchered.

Cyberpunk is dogshit worse than Skyim and it still made 90 gazillion dollars so I don't think expectations are actually that high

not enough people call out the fact emil dedicated an entire Fallout game to himself.
Its just so selfish and it's mind bogglingly stupid he still has a job.

7 years

I dont even need any shitty dev stories. Any game that takes more than 4, at worst 5 years to make since its announcement is automatically shit if its not indie.
Even bethesda used to pump out games every 3 or so years and they are more fondly remembered than shartfield. If i could i would unironically can TES6 a year ago.

Starfield has already hurt sales for TESVI, not boosted them

gee, maybe they shouldnt have waited nearly 15 years to make a sequel
if they had released a sequel 4 or 5 years afterwards, they wouldnt be in this situation

pete had to count all the money and counting ain't his strong suit.

Pfff of course a dragon can die from fall damage.

their mistake was making a too amibitious game when bethesda is historically already late and struggling to keep up

they release oblivion around dark messiah etc. fallout 3 after half life 2, standards have keept increasing as bethesda improved but they were always late. you need leeway to make a very ambitious game, leeway they didnt have

Kek. You forget, anon, that the vast majority of people are idiots. They've noticably hurt the Sales of Starfield 2, for sure, but the majority of these idiots don't know that Starfield and Elder Scrolls are even related. And once you dangle the keys of marketing, easily half of the ones that do know will fall for it again.
And the other half hasn't bought a Bethesda game since 2011 anyways, so it's not like they were going to lose sales from them anyways.

the only expectations are a base for lewd mods anyway, so it's pretty easy to deliver

Most people don't know Skyrim is related to The Elder Scrolls so your point is cancelled out and invalidated.

you can just see it from this line that its true

marketing wept

while in reality all they need to do is to say

kids remember skyrim, greatest rpg of all time sold billion times in 20 different editions?

well heres sequel to it

like its literally the easiest case in the world to market to dumbfuck normalnigger cattle yet they for some reason think its hard. how fucking incompetent are they?

yeah another 100 years of skyrim modding for me

Morrowind was lightning in a bottle, it's so unlike anything else Bethesda has made that it doesn't even feel like a Bethesda game

shivering isles

dark messiah was no competition for oblivion. oblivion was way ahead of time. it had incredible graphic fidelity for the time, literally small map fps graphic while being incredible large. and it had no load screens between different hexes of map like morrowin did. it was an incredible achievement.
skyrim was also ahead of time with modding, crafting, ability to view all items in 3d, rotate them, physics and general features.
after that they fell behind curve hard. fallout4 was shit, 76 complete unmitigated disaster and starfield is just fallou4 in space in 2023. the fuck? hello? todd? its 2025 now. you cannot have load screens to the interior of the buildings, thats 2000 tech. you cannot have out of ass optimization and beth junk. it wont fly anymore.

Reinforced, more like. Besides, all they need to do there is throw a "The Sequel to Skyrim" or "From the makers of Skyrim" to fix that gap

SI is not like Morrowind at all

Yea this is absolutely the future of RPGs, but I don’t think modern Bethesda is competent and cutting edge enough to do it. Also leftists in gaming will screech and throw their shit at the walls if a major game comes out with generative AI (procedural generation was perfectly fine though), they can be safely ignored of course since they’re a minority but Bethesda is probably too cowardly to stoke controversy.

lmao lol, oblivion had good graphics but terrible art. The oblivion face is a meme for a reason

didnt fell that unique. its just mad god realm with bunch of mad people. I mean in morrowind you had literal kellyfish floating, vivec city with all bullshit, ghost fence, all that crap which is pure drug fuel fantasy for a time. shiverin iles are rather tame. I found souls karin from dawnguard far more interesting place. And speaking of dlcs, hypocrifia felt same as shivering iles. its just lovecraft tentacle how terrific slop. nothing new.

havent said that it did. I too absolutely fucking hate oblivion graphics and how glass and most armors looked, pure fucking vomit.
but graphic itself was liek quake4 which came out around same time, it was something unthinkable for the time.

it was way they did immersive open world fantasy. But the way the humans looked barely human in the game. When they had perfect female face models in the same year.

Made by who? Oh, the guys who made Starfield

I can't imagine the normalfags who played Skyrim 15 years ago not knowing who Bethesda is. You're crafting an extremely specific and unlikely type of retard in your head with an extremely specific and unlikely set of knowledge that fits your extremely specific and unlikely prediction.

marketing departments just put their heads in their hands and weep

They really aren't hiding it anymore but Bethesda is very subtly trying to tell you all they are going to pozz aka DEIify this next game a ton and it very likely is going to kill the brand off for good. They of course hope people eat the slop up anyways but it seems to me some key people at Bethesda knows that they are finished once TES6 inevitably greatly disappoints die hard fans.

expect no more races as we knew them

expect faggy and sissy shit everywhere

expect pronouns to become a thing

expect redguard worship

expect an absolute ton of female praising and worshiping, especially at the expense of the male characters

expect tons of key male characters to become wimpy sad little cuckolds that can't seem to do anything right

despite all of the mod work for Skyrim in the past decade+ you can expect a whole ton of shit to not even be in the vanilla game on launch

expect a shitty story, guilds, quests, and so much more

We can't meet expectations! Fan hype is too high now!

Maybe they shouldn't have waited 14 fucking years to make it while developing fucking Starfield and Fallout 76 then, I honestly hope TES6 never comes out at this point. Bethesda are fucking retards and any turd they could possibly pinch off now would be disappointing not because of the years of stretched hype, but because they've proven with their last several games that they don't have a single creative bone left in their collective body. Watch TESVI feature the main character as the Hammerborn, reincarnated god of Hammerfell's renowned smithing

My expectations for TES6 have been lowered since Skyrim.

TESVI races

The three mer races

Redguards

Bretons but half of them are black

Imperials and nords are out, too problematic

No beast races because normalfags don't like them

‘Fraid so, they realized starfield is lacking the amount of sex mods and their roadmap doesn’t goes with their narrative anymore or…. They only just fucking started developing the game

Also keep in mind the reason they "weep" is because they do not like TES as it is/was. They want Bethesda to drastically alter the series into this faggy shitso they can "better market" TES6.

I've been playing Skyrim again after not having played in over a decade and I was actually surprised to hear one of these bandits call me an actual faggot. There is also a whole lot of edgy shit that gets said here and there. I can't imagine all of this cool banter surviving. There is no way. As I sit here playing this game and reflecting on how I do not remember so much of the finer details I just know Bethesda will not match nor surpass Skyrim, and they will do it on purpose. Enjoy your fucking slop guys.
I actually predict we will see them simplify the races into 3 main/primary races. It will be the mer/elves, the humans, and then the beasts. These races will be made to be as homogenized and basic as possible so that people do not feel left out and more importantly, so that nothing can be deemed sexist or racist. So as an example, nords and redguards will be made to be equals with one another and we won't see racism amongst the humans like we would have back then.

You'll get your family slop and love it so sayeth emil

tes6 will be about finding your mother or your sister, perhaps they turn to be same person and it would be emils grand twist.

have you seen that starfield behind the scenes videos?
it's all turbo normalfags working at bethesda now, none of them have played a single game that doesn't come pre-installed for free on their smartphone, let alone an elder scrolls game
there is no hope left for any of their franchises, their studios have reached terminal stage corpo-cancer

Starfield was just boring, it was fun for a moment but when I think back and wonder how I got so hyped for it, thinking it would last me months and not a week tops, it's just funny. The bullet sponge enemies are the worst offenders, at least in fallout I can vats to break up the monotony of dumping 6 mags into a monster's head, and those are monsters. Almost all the bullet sponges in starfield are just dudes.

Skyrim was many people's first big RPG when they had nothing to meausre it against.

It isn't possible to do this a second time in the current market.

You're thinking of Final Fantasy 7 not Skyrim. By the time Skyrim came out the normie audience had been introduced to numerous popular RPGs, The concept that normies hadn't played an RPG before Skyrim is nonsense.

And honestly what RPGs have come out since that Skyrim doesn't compare well to? Fallout 4, Avowed?

WHOA TODD-SAMA THIS IS TOO MUCH

I guarantee argonians and khajiit won't be playable

I was actually surprised to hear one of these bandits call me an actual faggot

I think a new ES game would remove all forms of fantasy racism out of fear of modern journalism backlash when it's such an iconic part of the world and genuinely helps make it feel real
I want more Dunmer calling me n'wah, the Khajiit in skyrim being forced into caravans was good shit. If it doesn't exist it makes a world feel fake

Final Fantasy 7 is 40 years old now. Skyrim was the first RPG for many since Skyrim is only 15 years old now.

I mean this in the nicest way: I don't think you understand normies. Which is honestly more of a good thing, Anon.

The three mer races

I read this and almost had a fucking stroke. There are so many more than 3, but then I realized you probably meant Alt, Bos, and Dun. That being said Orsi are also a thing (don't forget the orcs!). Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Maor as a playable race or maybe one of the ancient races that they keep having to add asterisks to when they say they're "extinct".

Redguards

Probably, yeah. I imagine they'll lean into Bretons pretty hard, too. It's not that big a deal though as long as it's well written.

Bretons but half of them are black

Could be. I always found the autistic screeching about Black Bretons baffling. They're literally just half-elves, why couldn't the human half have been Redguard? The lore never specifically states it can't happen.

Imperials and nords are out, too problematic

This is dumb. If they were to go all in on racism related shit they (AT THE VERY LEAST) would still need someone to be the strawman. If anything, you should expect the game to feature Imperials and Nords who are MORE racist if the focus is Redguards and Bretons.

No beast races because normalfags don't like them

Normalfags love beast races, dude. I don't think you understand how much regular people love furries as a concept until they find out the sex stuff. The only reason I could see that normies might have an immediate reaction is that furry shit has been dragged into the public spotlight lately. But even then, most of the normalfags who act like they care don't really care. And it's pretty obvious.

starfield did away with quite a few of those, there's no reason to believe that won't be carried on to tes

Just make Skyrim but nextget, with more features, more quests, more details. Don't add fucking procgen, AI shit, don't make Redguards a Bronx niggers.

literally everyone expecting TES6 to be the 4th/5th barely functional shitheap bethesda has released

they're struggling to meet this expectation

guess it just straight up doesnt run yet still

Do people still have high expectations after Fallout 4 + 76 and Starfall? I'd have to imagine those would bring down a lot of people to more reasonable levels.

After fallout 4, 76 and Starfield of course.

skipping straight to tes 7: elsweyr

based??

how many cocks did you sit on for that armor?

a faggot in a daedric armor, why not?

need mod for this

It's not expectations that are the issue.
TES6 is fighting against a decade of mods.