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Ohhhhhh.... Ohhhh no...
Reminder
If the Switch 2 and PS5 slim are the same base price why would the PS5 be cheaper after tariffs? Fucking retard
Someone failed to understand that different companies manufacture their hardware in different countries. Take a look at the bottom of the pic again, before calling someone else a retard.
why does nintendo make stuff in vietnam?
not like this drumpf bros...
Maybe now it'll reach EU pricing, which is more expensive
To avoid tariffs
I already boughted it for $710 here in Norway. Americans are fucking retarded when it comes to finances, have a taste of real world prices for once, i hope they raise the price a lot for you cucks
boughted
They moved from China to Vietnam due to tarrifs, and Vietnam just got hit with tarrifs too.
But unlike China, Vietnam is already yielding to the tarrifs so they will likely get removed before pre-orders go live in the US.
In any case China got fucked because they're losing out on manufacturing
Why is it so expensive? Costs only 470€ here in Germany
Why is it more expensive in Germany than in the US?
Vietnam is already yielding to the tarrifs
Trump already rejected the 0% tariff proposal from Vietnam lul
How much does it cost in the US?
The fact that Vietnam sent a proposal means they're receptive and are likely to yield before the end of this month.
China must be absolutely livid though, they've lost a lot of manufacturing to SEA nations
MAGA killed the tendie scourge
HOLY BASED
$449 USD which is 410€. You're paying 60€ more than the yanks
But unlike China, Vietnam is already yielding to the tarrifs so they will likely get removed before pre-orders go live in the US.
All the zero for zero offers have been shot down already. Trumps just wants the tariff revenue
makes up numbers
wow so helpful
Vietnam sent a proposal means they're receptive and are likely to yield
Yield what? They already yielded and the white house said it won't make a difference
>makes up numbers
All of these have been announced already, the Aluminum tariffs are literally in effect already
It takes effort to be this retarded.
the US is run by literal retards
rest of the world pay exuberant prices since forever
america has to pay a tiny bit more and loses their minds
Yield to what lol, Trump already rejected their proposal and unless US goods slash their prices by a high margin then Viets wont buy them - they export 10 times more than they import from the US, meaning to get the trade deficit to 0 they would need to buy goods of around 130 billion.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt
And with tariffs included?
US prices are before tax. Prices in Europe are after tax (Somewhere around %20 VAT but it varies by country)..
That’s… really good news? They’re saying they are thinking about the price at least
The tariffs of other countries are not the problem to Trump, it is the trade deficit. Trump thinks that US should only have trade surplus with every country in the world, and any American money spent on buying products or services from abroad is stolen American money. The obvious long term plan of his administration is the USA would replace China as workshop of the world, and in the future Europeans and Asians would be buying mobile phones and shit made in USA.
The price isn't going down it's only a matter of how much it goes up.
According to Doug Bowser, no.
But what's going to happen, it'll reach EU pricing? Lol, why aren't people complaining about that NOW.
Thats without tax bro
Switch 2 for 1k USD
You're on crack if you think this will happen.
Elect dipstick business man who bankrupts his own businesses
Everyone outside the US is even more stupid for doing fucking nothing to prepare for this
German prices are always after tax, not before like US ones. So actual german price would be ~380 euros, the rest is VAT. That's a fact many seem to forget in this discussion... Well Trump did, too and thinks eu VAT=tariff
Anon, I pay 470 with taxes included, Americans pay their price without taxes include in the base price.
It's what it would cost at the current price + announced tariffs. Nintendo could drop the base price to $250 and sell at a loss like Sony and Microsoft do it, which would put it at around $550. However, as it currently stands, a $450 console assembled with Vietnam would be subject to three separate tariffs and therefore reach the consumer market at over $1000
As I said, it takes effort being this retarded.
It's just a linear equation, you can whip out Excel and share what you come up with
And what are Europeans and Germans saying about the price? Are they also complaining or is this an American thing.
mogged by tariffs
mogged by the minecraft movie
mogged by astrobot
it’s over, the tendies have been felled…
Most people I know dont get why it costs so much more than OG Switch
Half/half, people are more upset about the game prices and not the system. But around here many people got a switch but it started to gather dust real quick, so switch 2 wouldn't have been as popular as the 1st one anyway.
You mean upon release or compared to current pricing?
I don't think I have heard anyone whining about Switch 2 cost in Finland (preorders seem to be in ~580€ or ~620€ with Mario Kart World) which puts it's price a bit higher than PS5 costs here. But that being said Nintendo just isn't that big of a deal here. Most gamers are just Playstation loyalists or PC nerds.
Did the Switch even get a price drop compared to release?
I think that it did when they released the OLED.
The release price vs current release price is much lower
620€ with Mario Kart World)
Jeez, I paid 500€ WITH Mario kart here
Same here in Germany, we are pretty much a PC nation
same here in France. The biggest complaints I heard were from people dissapointed by the launch lineup and not the price, but some people are always going to complain no matter what
Don't get the issue it cost the same as the switch OLED plus a coffee with a burger, what are you poor?
Am I the only one who thinks this is completely delusional? This is not the kind of problem you can throw money at to make it go away. I'm not even talking about moving the assembly line which is a huge pain in and of itself, but there's just no manufacturing expertise and logistics set up in the US.
Sure, you can find assembly line workers, but you also need CNC Operators, SMT technicians, CR Technicians, etc.
In Shenzen, you can put out a job ad and gather 10,000 CNC operators in a month. Are there even 10,000 CNC operators across the whole of US looking for work?
Not to mention, if you're running low on materials, you can just open an app, order everything you need and some guy on a bike will bring it to you the same day.
The thing is that shit like phones require rare metals that China and other countries happen to have a lot of, which gives them the advantage not just to produce the raw material, but to refine it. Where are these large cobalt veins in the US? Even if production did move back to the US, which could take years, we would still have to import the raw goods from China and other SEA countries. And of course, there would be tariffs that would eventually pass on to the consumer when those goods are refined into phones, not to mention the additional price increase from needing employers to make back enough to pay for the labor that went into making those phones.
It don't make no goddamn sense.
I don’t understand, why would you be proud about spending over $700 for a video game that isn’t even out yet?
elect an orange retard
cry when the orange retard destroys your economy/reputation
All these loser pyschotic leftists that work in retail, a warehouse, or in a factory trying to tell everyone how an economy works
The demographic complaining most about the tariffs often provably know the least real economic knowledge. This incessant bitching about something you clearly have no knowledge of is not having the effect you think it is. You retards are forgetting thag a huge portion of the population has already made up their minds to always do the exact opposite of what you say for the rest of their lives.
The only thing I do complain about is that the shitty "game" they're charging you for to learn about the features.
Yes it's like $5-10 or whatever, but in principle you shouldn't be charging people for a virtual instruction manual.
And it's not a game, Nintendoland was a game. This thing makes you do quizes for fuck's sake
It don't make no goddamn sense.
Because you are a kid. The economic world you knew ended, this is a new one and the main focus is to destroy China to the point to make trade by shipping not worthy.
Americans are going to suffer some years but in the end they will be in an insanely better position than others specially the EU that its focused on killing themselves
It's a tiny group of very loud leftists doing this. Most real Americans I know are very happy to see the richest people in the country lose everything and they are willing to live off rice and beans as long as it takes to make that happen.
Like clockwork, the only people upset about rich investors losing money are yet again exclusively far leftists obsessed with Trump.
Is he actually retarded? What, does he expect Americans to start assembling products like the bing bing wahoo console on the hard floor? Because I'm pretty sure the US doesn't have even a tenth of the production plants and production chain infrastructure China and its neighboring countries have, and it would probably take a decade to build and setup everything from the ground up. Also, I don't think the average lazy Americans can compete with the average south Asian willing to work on a sweatshop for 2 dollars an hour.
Also, my favorite Nintendo games are Dragon Quest III and Mega Man II
Not every country has the same resources, let alone in equal amounts. I don't know how this is going to work. Also it's not just rich people and their stocks, there's millions of Americans who have their life savings for retirement that are dependent on the stock market's performance because companies don't pay pensions, anymore.
He isnt retarded, but he knows the average American is.
Is anyone getting the Pro Controller 2 day one?
He still doesn't understand what tariffs are, he is retarded in the sense that he in american
Is this ACTUALLY real? Because if so holy shit, the industry will literally collapse lmao
They were probably expecting much lower tariffs (10%) but apparently the toupe wearing retard screwed up the math and made them way higher than he originally meant to.
He pulled it out of his ass and doesn't understand economies of scale or basic math.
tl;dr its not real.
How the fuck were they expecting 10% tariffs when there already two separate 25% tariffs on consumer electronics already announced for months
What's wrong with it? I googled and all the rates are what's being reported
A lot of business suits and economists across the world (including Trump supporting ones) had presumed that Trump just would not really do it and it is just talk that should not be taken seriously.
Then he actually did it.
They will circumvent stacking tariffs, retard.
He'll also likely come to an arrangement with Japan as he did with Vietnam.
require rare metals
That's what Ukraine is for :)
Top 10 anime fails
To avoid any Trump sanctions on China. They just didn't anticipate he'd go this full retard.
It will never not cease to amaze me the amount of left wingers I've seen try and support this on places like resetera though. How can you reconcile and even go as far to justify the fact that the only reason things are so cheap is because it's built via the exploitation and essentially slavery of poorer people in another country. Doesn't make sense with a left wing mindset surely.
Why are we not seeing prices rise yet then?
based
drumpy turd says dumb shit
haha he won't do that
does the thing
errmm oopsie he isn't suppsoed to do that! XDD
goto 1 and repeat
Neonazi incels are so fucking retarded.
kept tweet up
didn't delete, gaslight, and deflect
If only the Left were so honorable...
They will circumvent stacking tariffs
How?
He'll also likely come to an arrangement with Japan as he did with Vietnam.
The administration already said Vietnam's offer means nothing to them
To be fair he only did 10%.
Damn Scandinavians are getting fucked over with Switch 2 prices, why? Strong currency?
UK is becoming PC land too. A lot of PS players. A good amount of Nintendo only players but a lot of the first 2 groups also own a Switch as a secondary console.
Anon, the price is going to go up
Why are we not seeing prices rise yet then?
No new stock for desktop GPUs coming in since the tariffs went into effect a few days ago. Data centers are getting hit though
No you're not the only one anon we all think that. No one knows the play, it's confusing
It case you didn't already know, the Switch 2 is going to be about $330 in Japan. They could have chosen to make this price the norm, but they didn't.
Idk if the rates would stack up like that
The only reason it's that price is because the yen is so weak that they had to make a region locked version to stop scalpers from buying up all of Japan's stock. It would've been $450 otherwise like the rest of the world. Nintendo hate taking a loss on their console sales.
Historically they haven't but the ones Trump announced do, he is literally following his stated goal of moving manufacturing stateside, not just collecting a little bit of extra tax revenue. I don't know why people still aren't taking him at his word
lol, america.
When is Trump going to improve the quality of life for the working class?
Nobody really thought orange retard would destroy the economy for no reason because it's too absurdly stupid that anyone would do that, but this is the same moron who bankrupted multiple casinos now bankrupting America
In Finland it is mostly due to VAT that is part of costs. Also because Finnish consumers just suck up high prices anyways so retailers like to keep them high.
the switch 2 price is fine but the games are ridiculous, I thought this was a general consensus days ago so why do we keep having the same thread about this?
Total Tendie Death
I agree on them hating to take a loss on console sales. That's why I'm alleging that 330 is the real cost and 450 is just the bullshit price their charging because they can.
why do we keep having the same thread about this?
Discord raids.
Because the Switch 2 price is going up from anywhere to 50% to 100% if they weren't hedging for tariffs at all
Because the reality has set in that Trump isn't going to rescind the tariffs and the major countries are telling him to eat shit, so now America is the new North Korea, isolated and alone, which is what they voted for
People aren't taking him at his word because even retard trump supporters know that bringing back manufacturing is a pipe dream. Even if building the factories wasn't a massive expense far worse than paying high tariffs, even if it weren't the case that the US lacks the raw materials and/or environment to take over some of these verticals, even if these places could pop up overnight instead of taking half a decade, IT WOULD STILL BE CHEAPER TO BUILD OVERSEAS.
Trump isn't bringing back shit, he's crashing the economy at the bad advice of opportunists like Navarro that want to snap up assets at deflated costs
source: it came to me in a dream
They can only afford to price it like that because they're japanese, dumbass.
You white cucks are consumer cattle and deserve everything coming to you
The whole plan hinges on importing these workers by the tens of thousands from Asia, and the MAGA tards will clap and ask for more as their country is overrun.
It’s weird because this pretty much seems giga retarded and is close to impossible to achieve but for some reason the stock market just isn’t crashing over it, at least not as hard as you’d expect. This seems really odd.
I already boughted it for $710 here in Norway. Americans are fucking retarded when it comes to finances, have a taste of real world prices for once, i hope they raise the price a lot for you cucks
That's because Americans buy everything on credit card and end up paying more due to interest because they can't save, only consume.
but for some reason the stock market just isn’t crashing over it
They're holding out hope Trump stops being retarded. The tariffs come into effect tomorrow, then we'll see red.
Here you go:
Applicable HTS codes for the aluminum tariffs currently in effect(products with aluminum heatsinks are currently being tariffed at customs):
cbp.gov
Vietnam tariffs:
cnbc.com
Auto tariffs will apply to all computers and hard disks:
heise.de
$600 here we go!
Doesn't the US have a trade surplus with Australia and still hit them with 10%?
$600
The optimistic one aren’t we
And I thought 25% my country takes is horribly high
If you think the Switch 2 is gonna be 1kUSD before tax, I have a bridge to sell you.
Don't give me that bullshit. They could foot the price if they really wanted too, especially with them pushing these absurd game prices. Nintendo under Iwata would have, because he could see the bigger picture. They're overcharging because of greed and thinking only of the short term. Mindless faggots like you will run defense for them no matter what they do.
mfw burgers will have to buy switch 2 at 600 amerishekels PLUS tip
Are you banking on the administration walking back the tariffs? Or do you think the administration is going to open up a factory in the US?
Waah Wahh Wahh
Tell someone who cares cheapskate
Most people seem to have just quietly forgotten things like the Foxconn deal to bring tech manufacturing to Wisconsin, and how it took years to start making a small amount of network hardware before going on to do "????" while selling space to Microsoft
Investors are coping by thinking this is some 4D chess move to get other countries to the negotiation table and that he never intended to go through with it. Another cope is that he's just deliberately crashing the stock market to buy low and then cancel the tariffs. There's also the reddit wsb retards frantically pouring money into the market chasing that get rich quick unicorn they've been after ever since gamestop.
A fool and his money are easily parted.
And other things broke niggas say.
Learn to read you fucking morons.
it's the nontariff cheating that matters. Christ alive you cunts are stupid.
And?
Overspending isn't a flex, nigger.
What non tariff cheating? The trade deficit? Yeah that's how trade works.
Those penguins should be buying Teslas and Boeing jets
Same price here in Portugal (it includes tax of 23% VAT)
Feels good to be a Nintendo enjoyer in Portugal aka FIFA land. All the snoys here are trying to convince everyone to buy a PS5 instead. Good, it means that I will have one in stock and keep enjoying discounted prices on physical games.
20% tariffs were raised on China in 2016, it resulted in a 0.9% price increase over the period of 4 years. Anyone who thinks products like consoles would raise prices dramatically due to tariffs is retarded because it does not conform to reality.
I'm sure Nintendo cancelled US preorders just to announce they will keep the same prices and sell everything there at a loss hehe
It was funny seeing the cope that Nintendo had already accounted for US tariffs by setting the price that high for all regions, as if all the other regions would subsidize the sales of the console for the US.
Good luck to Nintendo then, the switch sold more in the USA than every other country on the planet combined.
And where those 20% tariffs blanket tariffs on everything?
America is rich
despite being 4% of the world population America account for 30% of all consumer purchases on the planet
which means Americans buy a lot of stuff and import of a lot of goods
Trump is so retarded that he thinks this means America is getting ripped off
This is the same as thinking the supermarket is ripping you off because you buy groceries from them but they never buy anything from you.
Basically the rest of the world is America’s grocery store and Trump is too stupid to understand this.
Xbox could make a comeback in the USA, if only they switched to Intel
lol
It's okay, no more access to the American market. Enjoy your economic collapse because Americans buy so much trash from your country that your GDP will drop by 50% once they're discouraged from buying your slop.
Francisco is too retarded to build a PC
Enjoy paying for overpriced vidya with your minimum wage PhD job faggot
As a portuguesefag, I firmly believe that piracy is a human right. Plus, everyone already treats as pirates thanks to huehuehue
What good is being the biggest market if you are just going to lose money from it? Size is a double edged sword here and you are making the case for me, the amount of money they would lose from trying to "subsidize" a 46% tariff is not worth it compared to simply raising the price for amerigolems. And if demand in USA goes down (demand will go down anyway even if they don't increase prices because everything in USA is about to become more expensive) just allocate future shipments to other regions. This shit is not going to have problems clearing stock in its first year anyway.
Trump possibly being the reason the Switch 2 fails or contributing would be the craziest shit
lose money
Corporations will make less money. Their profits will go down but why is it a problem for the consumer that a billion dollar company is suffering a little?
vote for trump to destroy the trannies
tendies get destroyed
Not really that surprising lmao
Sony famously sold PS3 at a loss and it completely wiped everything they had achieved with PS1+PS2. If they didn't have other businesses beyond vidya they would have likely been forced to exit the market altogether.
I'm just pointing out how delusional it is to think that Nintendo will sell things at a loss in USA.
They moved to vietnam to try avoid chink tariffs, but they didnt know trump was gonna apply tariffs on vietnam too. This greedy company shouldve stopped selling switch 1 ages ago, and release switch 2 2 years ago, but they were resting on their pearls and now they will pay the price for their greedyness with switch 2 flopping like wii u. Massive Sony W since people already have PS5s and PS5 Pros, while switch 2 wont sell well
everything in USA is about to become more expensive
Update your narrative because oil is $60 a barrel now, gas prices is cheap as hell now in America. Groceries prices is dropping because of it and America saw 1% deflation yesterday, which meant that the prices of everything went down.
It's 699 Canabucks for the console + mario kart bundle
Not every tendie is a tranny but every tranny is a tendie, so it is written
would be based but there's no way fans will be deterred by this
Sharp drop in gas price is a sign of an economic slowdown/recession. Look it up
durr you’re too retarded to build a PC
Why do retards jump to this conclusion? I’m 34 and I’ve been gaming on PCs since the early 90’s, I’ve been building my own PCs since my early teens, I’ve always liked handhelds and the switch is perfect for my lifestyle since I can get console quality games anywhere. I’m getting too old, I just want shit that works at the press of a button and I have enough disposable income to do so.
As a portuguesefag, I firmly believe that piracy is a human right.
I’m well aware that my fellow countrymen have a double digit average IQ, you don’t need to remind me of that every day. Everyone cries about Nintendo prices and thinks snoystation is fairly prices because they get the best FIFAslop experience.
Nintendo never sells things at a loss and the switch 2 is obviously priced high because they wanted to make a ton of money. Not to mention how they announced it before the tariffs. Doug Bowser already said that they priced the Switch 2 high to get out of the way of the OLED switch and base switch 1 because they want that to keep selling for the next decade.
Amen. Straight from Tsuchiya's drift bible
lmao
I got one pre-ordered but I'm not an amerimutt so none of this affects me.
Honestly gaming would be better if we excluded all the mutts.
Chinks just announced they're killing their economy this morning. Great day.
It's okay, no more access to the American market. Enjoy your economic collapse because Americans buy so much trash from your country that your GDP will drop by 50% once they're discouraged from buying your slop.
Is that why the US was crying because Europe is no longer including US defense companies in their defense? Lmao, you’re the ones getting assfucked by the orange tard.
leafs can buy Switch 2, burgers can't
How embarrassing
Yes. None of it makes any sense.
Nintendo is gonna be left behind. PS5 Pro and PS6 will btfo nintendo's existing Switch 1 base, because nobody is gonna buy switch 1s or 2s with tendie tariff prices they're gonna put. They got waaaaaaaaaay too fucking greedy and complacent, and as a result they will now burn in hell!
america ask vietnam to buy american products
they will buy and re sell to russia.
means 0 tariffs
Europe isnt going to buy weapons from US defense companies
lmao good luck then, it's better for America in the long run because the weapons wont end up in the hand of muslims in a few decades.
If you think they wont cancel euro orders so they can match euro prices with us prices you are stupid. This is literally what happened with AMD GPUs month ago (though for diff reason)
It’ll all end up in the hands of Israel instead, great
Then buy a steam deck you retard
and thinks snoystation is fairly prices
It is if you refuse to play on PC
The Switch 2 offers absolutely nothing. As a dedicated simple gaming device, it gets mogged by the deck which has 10000x more games. As an actual gaming system, it gets mogged by PC and PS5.
I got a hacked Switch with instant access to its full library thanks to freeshop. I still get most of my playtime on the deck thanks to the switch's horrible performance, loading times, lack of 3rd party games and having to jump through more hoops to get mods working. The only new thing that the Switch 2 will bring is more first party nintendo exclusives, and considering that the games announced so far are fucking garbage, I don't give a single a shit about them
Now keep getting bullied by FIFAtards lol (soon GTA6fags)
Meant for
Steam deck is the best path forward because game prices will be cheap, you can bring your games anywhere and play it on multiple platform without issues.
t-they will cancel their preorders and raise the price for everyone else
cope
pay up ameripiggy
still not regretting voting trump
you lost tranny
They will raise prices for everyone, tariffs or not, cause that's how capitalism works. You will pay because you're consoomer cattle (see Nvidia GPU prices)
Based Trump making the green dragon seethe
I'm not paying anything my burger friend, only your preorders have been cancelled and you need to cope by hallucinating that they have been cancelled everywhere
Good, Suffah Tendies
deck 2 comes out
all of my deck 1 games are playable
all upgrades are free since all I have to do is change graphics setting from medium to high
deck 3 comes out
cycle repeats
Can't wait for tendies to lose access to their switch 1 games once 3 comes out kek
worldpopulationreview.com
Yep, the orangutan in office is just throwing a tantrum and pissing off every single possible ally. Surely that won't backfire tremendously.
Switch 2 outsells Deck 1, 2, and 3 combined
How?
By changing the legal provenance.
The administration already said Vietnam's offer means nothing to them
Negotiations proceeding apace, actually.
reuters.com
luigi
yass queen, let's deify mentally ill murderers because they made bing bing wahoo expensive!!! (i cant save money because i NEED 6 $20 lattes a day okay I CANT BREATHE)
ally
With "allies" like them, who needs enemies?
Parasites.
Honestly its ironic this image has chuddah considering chuddah fags are the ones that voted for trump.
Full circle
He's getting really pissy now because only third world countries are bending the knee, everyone else is making plans to disengage from US, and even his GOP pawns are finally telling him he's tanking the economy for nothing
Doesn't affect me.
I'll be emulating anyway.
And? Valve is private and literally prints money. They can sell only 100 who cares
main corporation's product outsold the side project of the other corporation
ok cool
You better hope that the Switch 2 outsells the Wii U, otherwise your Switch 2 will turn into a brick. The deck could sell 3 units and it wouldn't affect anyone at all
everyone else is making plans to disengage from US
That's the plan.
If they won't play ball, he's taking it home and pursuing autarky.
lmao why do 3rd worlders think they can put up a challenge or fight with America, the strongest and best country in the world. Either you give us stuff or see your country collapse. It's just that simple, take it or leave it.
PC outsells NES, SNES, N64, GCN, Wii, Wii U, Switch, GB, GBC, GBA, DS, DSi, 3DS, New 3DS and Switch Lite combined
AIEEEEEE SHUT IT DOWN
Does the "Japan-Language system" only refer to the OS or the games as well? Because if you can still play english games but with the OS in japanese this deal is a no-brainer
Hope you like Cambodian products anon, because that's all you subhumans are going to get when the civilized world moves on without you
EU retailers will cancel orders because MSRP went up
Enjoy your collapse and starvation because
America
Biggest military in the world that protects trade routes and makes international trade possible
Petrol dollar so if your country uses oil and gas you gotta use american dollars to buy it
biggest food production on the planet, Americans are responsible for the rest of the world not starving
biggest weapons manufacturer on the planet, they make all the missiles and guns
wealthiest average population that are used to consuming and buying plastic trash, their might alone sustain most countries with their consumerism
America can sustain and isolate themselves but the rest of the world would collapse without them.
lmao why do 3rd worlders think they can put up a challenge or fight with America, the strongest and best country in the world. Either you give us stuff or see your country collapse. It's just that simple, take it or leave it.
Why is that a bad thing? Israel is an important strategic location for the US to have, and they’re always killing muslims and attracting Islamic terrorist threats away from the US.
why won't you American patriots buy Xbox
stop buying foreign products
support local companies like Microsoft
Why is that a bad thing? Israel is an important strategic location for the US to have, and they’re always killing muslims and attracting Islamic terrorist threats away from the US.
There are no good American games.
To screw over the Japanese people out of jobs because they are an evil company
Xbox, like all US products is shit
yo retard, the parts and labor is valued at $350, and the tariff would be valued off that. Nintendo also would adjust prices on other things to avoid tacking too much cost to the console thrust on consumers. so it would look more like $550 for the console, and $100 games
Why do leftists hate tariffs and love billionaires so much?
the parts and labor is valued at $350
Tariffs aren't applied on a cost basis, they're applied on the invoice value. So if retailers are selling it to final consumers at $450 they're probably buying them from Nintendo at a little over $400
THERE IS NO INFLATION AND NO WAR IN BA SING SE!
It's totally region locked. Japan only.
They gotta promise to buy american! Havinga trade surplus with the US is illegal!
You can just slide the tariff slider. It's easy! See? It's easy. And you just get raised income. Look at that. Easy.
This administration’s deals mean nothing will how easily they break them.
This, the orange retard set up the current trade agreement with Canada and Mexico in his first term, now he's hitting them with tariffs over his own trade deal
What game?
This bootlicker is having a meltdown lol
Anon he used fucking ChatGPT to give him tariff numbers, the man is eating fucking glue in one hand and McDonalds in the other. He probably thinks he can turn America into China, rumors have swirled around about repealing child labor laws to supplement this. Trump's a retard, Musk's a sad retard and somehow we have to deal with both of them having the keys to the country.
we support slave labor because bing bing wahoo
Weird hill to die on
They've been supporting slavery and exploitation since 1619
Victoria II
The God Emperor killed Globohomo and Gaymen within 6 months of taking office.
God fucking damn I kneel Ameri-bros
It's a dead cat bounce, anon. Real recovery can't happen until investors know if the US is worth investing in.
I had to google if those lyrics are real...
My god the fucking state XD
duh, it was always cope from americans.
With Nintendo USD=EUR
Now it's USD=EUR+50%
It's what you voted for, so suck it up America!
Death to the chinks.
What’s wrong with using chatGPT to get tariff numbers? It’s basiclaly a super calculator for that kind of stuff. No one would say it’s wrong to use a calculator to add or something.
Thanks Zion Don!
don't worry Japan will pay the tariffs
mexico will pay for the wall
campaigns on fixing the economy
talks about how tough it is for the common man right now
"fuckin' biden! he ruined our economy!"
...
alright everybody get ready to pay even more
"w-we can deal with some hardship! thank you master!"
This is different and you know it. Leftists are so dishonest.
See!
He raised his hands!
He's just like a dictator!
What non tariff cheating?
IP theft, people often forget that China got to where it is due to IP theft, and Vietnam does the same thing
America is about to be a third world country
This isn't a negotiation tactic retard. Trump wants their factories back to America.
yes, it's way worse
By definition, it is always the center of the first world, sweaty.
It's a win-win.
Either it coerces concessions or it repatriates industry.
yea the red boot on your neck feels so much better than the blue boot
No it isn't.
Trump promised to make the economy better, instead he's ruined it, along with US's entire soft power base.
It will take 100 years to fix the damage he's done.
China is the first world now.
US is the second world.
"p-please buy our mediocre c-cars!"
Do Americans really?
I know for a fact that a retard like you probably heard what a tariff is for the first time when this blunder was announced. There is a reason why the entire economy benefited from cheap labour and it also used contribute to the overall world harmony since you used to do business with other countries which prevented people from acting radically. The retard who is in the charge of this administration threw it all away for some retarded juvenile dream of creating an isolated and self dependent US. This is like as if a toddler was put in charge of a superpower. He is a total retard and his supporters are even lower in the IQ bell curve
Ah yes, America can start making t-shirts and plastic widgets for $2 a day like the Vietnamese factory workers
Trust the plan
These men who are vastly more successful than I am must be retarded because I disagree with them!
It's trade deficit.
I wish I could buy a quality Chinese EV, like the CEO of Ford, but us commoners aren't allowed to have nice things.
Japan doesn't even have any tariffs against American cars, nobody wants to buy them because they're an inferior product
just be born to millionaires
price is £490 in the UK
Despite being flooded by sand niggers in the cities, I still like living here. We have a good relationship with every other country.
Yes, glorious chinkistan.
Go live there and see if you don't change your tune.
This isn't the burn you still think it is, mutt.
I'm not too knowledgeable on economics but wouldn't tariffs really only apply to retailers? Nintendo isn't importing Switch's from Vietnam theyre just making them there, whereas the people actually buying units to sell would actually be affected
We have a good relationship with every other country.
People are still secretly mad at the 100s of years of colonialism, britbong.
It's not? Who's fuckup is this?
The goal is for everything to be expensive and for everyone to pay $50 for American trinkets or starve we don't care lol
Literally just make money so your *children* can be born millionaires.
It's a cumulative generational effort.
Blame your parents for breeding when they couldn't afford to give you proper start.
temporarily embarrassed millionaire
lol
lmao
This is what your switch 2 taxes will be funding.
KEK
And this is why you should never try to normalize relations with the losers you defeated.
Aboriginals should also have all been exterminated.
Then, nobody would bitch about it.
I dont care, I still love you and will act as such.
It makes sense. We’ll need all the money we can get if we want to liberate Canada from their communist government.
It’s not that surprising considering that the Switch 2 was never going to be that cheap. To make something roughly equivalent to the Steam Deck in performance, there was no way in hell that Nintendo would be selling it at another $300. Especially when they know they have some fans by the balls.
Anon, America has neither the infrastructure, the cheap manpower, or the natural resources to become a production powerhouse like China and Vietnam. Bringing back factories is just one big pipe dream, especially since you still have to sell your products to the rest of the world to be successful.
give anon 3m loan
it’s gone in 2 years
just be born rich bro
trump and elon are cunts but you don’t get that rich by being a fucking mentally illiterate retatard
jewish weapons contractors.
MIGA
No really, how the fuck do Reps square paying so much to Isreal yet argue for less foreign spending, I dont get it. Isreal is the one thats done so much shit to America over the past 40 years that its baffling why they are even considered allies. Remmeber that time they shot out US warships and killed the rescue teams? Noone talks about that.
Hegseth leaks the invasion plans on xitter in a drunken stupor
This, billionaires are a different breed, smarter and more capable than us.
I'm not embarrassed.
Nor am I a millionaire, which isn't all that much anyway.
Lurk more.
Or better yet, google it.
it’s about 1% above room temp iq 99% luck
Most real Americans I know
what you mean the cartels in new Mexico you brown fuckhead
Musk and Trump are both retarded trust fund babies given so much free money that they can't fail regardless of how many times they fuck up
Keep your leftist pro-laziness dogwhistles off this website. We appreciate hard work here.
Look up what lobbying is. All your questions will be answered. The US is basically a vassal state to Israel.
pokimane
just launch then nukes already
lol cope
I’m sure you’d be richer then both of them if you were given a trust fund anon.
Why? Are you not cool with her?
people have been shitting on switch games being 60 dollars for years. what makes you think they're going to shut up about games being an extra 20 dollars?
The cool thing about unsanctioned unilateral changes to politics is that it can go a different course in 4 years and it's less expensive for companies to wait it out rather than spend billions moving all of their manufacturing over some tweet at 3am. There's some underlying faith that common sense will prevail but that keeps slipping away everyday.
The leftists are ironically petit bourgeoisie: materialistic, white-collar, and averse to technological change.
why they are even considered allies
This isn't an ally, this is a master.
nice. more switches for the european market
"Luck" = intellect + drive + opportunity
What's wrong with any of all that? You want all of us to be poor and miserable working shitty sweat shop jobs like slaves? God, you are such a fucking retarded faggot.
Most real Americans I know are very happy to see the richest people in the country lose everything and they are willing to live off rice and beans as long as it takes to make that happen.
LOL
God I'm so glad you retards get to rot in this shithole while I can move away
TDS the thread
whereas the people actually buying units to sell would actually be affected
Why would they suck up the loss when they can make you pay the loss?
Have you ever thought about that?
Well now you no longer have to think, just pay the taxes you voted for.
Didn’t get through all that, but I just want you to know that I’m sorry you got deported, and I’m sorry your shithole country of origin isn't getting aid money for gay stage plays or whatever anymore.
lefty/pol/ is leaking
Anon Babble leaking is bad enough
just grind you’ll be rich
you’ll be well off not rich.
We can't all be white-collar, dipshit, so we need to make blue-collar vocations fair and abundant.
Nobody should be taking on tens of thousands in debt to study something that won't contribute to society.
If you want to own nothing and be happy, go for it. Just don’t be surprised that a sizable amount of the population disagrees and will fight to oppose it, as is their right in the name of free speech.
When you think about it, the "everything is an Xbox" campaign was genius. Now literally whatever device you have lying around can be used to play Game Pass games, which is good because you won't be able to afford new hardware lmao. Maybe the folks at MS had insider knowledge.
It'd be pretty funny if a price hike ended up killing Nintendo's American sales completely. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Not him, but you will get screwed hard with all this. You know that, right? lmao
you’ll be well off not rich.
And your children will be that much better off for it.
Who the fuck talked about useless degrees here? God, you are such an insufferable faggot.
Leftists
Free speech
Ok, tankie faggot.
America has neither the infrastructure, the cheap manpower, or the natural resources
America has all of those things you fucking moron. I swear some of you have never been outside of the city.
Yes, you can. That was the whole point of outsourcing your job. That's how the economy benefited from outsourced cheap labour. The alternative is literally domestic manufacturing and nobody will do those jobs for cheap in the US which will raise all the prices in return. You guys are so fucking stupid
If you can't make the connection between the decline of blue-collar employment and degree inflation as young Americans take on debt they can't repay just to be propagandized by Marxists, then you haven't learned a goddamned thing.
hehe now China will for sure yiel-AAACCKKKKKK
When wild Americans understand you can't win China with tariffs
In the near future companies will make consoles for only their markets
Nintendo-Japan
Xbox-America
Sony-India
Steam-Evrope
unironic blue-collar cattle
If I were a sociopath like they are, possibly
You are literally strawmanning here. You can be a middle class citizen without studying gender studies you fucking subhuman. But not anymore in Trump's United Retards of America!
You can't rely on that exploitation indefinitely, dipshit.
The transition to "service economy" has failed to incorporate millions of Americans.
They deserve honest work.
There's gonna have to be an unholy alliance between MS and Apple, because Apple is the only company that's invested in chip manufacturing in the US.
How the fuck did it fail? lmao You are dumb as fuck not even worth a second of my life.
You cannot escape critical theory at most American universities, retard, and there are alarmingly many useless degrees.
The dollar was also weakened by trump retardation
They absolutely do not have enough natural resources. If they did then Trump wouldn’t want Canada and Greenland of all fucking places.
It's amazing how few people listen to anything Trump actually says on camera. This image alone demonstrates what he is trying to do >Americans play no role in manufacturing or materials
American products don't sell overseas due to how foreign laws work (this is what he means by "unfair")
only role America plays right now is controlling the dollar
the dollar is only relevant due to petrodollar status quo and military presence
petrodollar doesnt exist anymore
military presence going to be dialed back after EU showed its hand in Ukraine
The tariffs are strong-handing the rest of the world because America's trade partners implement laws that totally prevent American products from competing. This isn't a good thing when said partners are completely and totally uninterested in military spending, expecting American to "just handle everything" as there's a literal invasion into the European continent. This is to say nothing of China taking up new positions, too, because it's noticed the Americans will eventually be spread too thin and won't receive any backup; it is essentially playing whack-a-mole with strategic interests with this nation whose allies refuse to defend themselves yet, simultaneously, do business with Russia and the Chinese. It's completely idiotic and if you can see this coming as the leadership of America and not just a money-handling investor leech you'd take measures now, while the dollar is strong and our military is still on top, to bolster the strength of domestic everything. Do it while you still have enough wealth to survive while the rest of the world flounders. Then when they're starving, get them to agree to much better terms that actually favor you and stop stuffing money into the pockets of Russia and China.
more strawman
Good, you have no arguments to resort what i said. Might as well just shut the fuck up.
How the fuck did it fail?
t's amazing how few people listen to anything Trump actually says on camera
I do, he is retarded, legit 85iq.
He think trade deficit = being taken advantage off . He is economically illiterate.
We already saw what happens when you just keep sailing with how things are going, it's why everything began climbing in price. But Orange Man wasn't in office, Delaware Corpse was, so the press didn't tell you to be mad about it.
Americans play no role in manufacturing or materials
By your elites own doing.
American products don't sell overseas due to how foreign laws work (this is what he means by "unfair")
No, because your products are garbage.
Your food is poison.
Your electronics are inferior to Japanese, Korean, and now even Chinese goods.
Your cars are trash.
Just accept that you're taking a backseat to China, and know your fucking role.
strawman
I won't think you know what that is.
All I contend is that there are more Americans churning through the propaganda mills than there are opportunities for them, in part because they aren't fulfilling market needs.
chip manufacturing in the US.
Those jobs are all dead Anon.
American PMIC fabs tri to play tsundere with China.
China told them to fuck off and built their own PMIC fabs China.
Amrican PMIC fabs instantly fold into bankruptcy.
it's another episode of clueless retarded anon overestimating his intelligence
Maybe try to directly reply to me next time. No need to be shivered.
Enjoy living in the chinkosphere, brownoid.
You are arguing about something i haven't even brought up which is what a strawman argument is, you cretin.
making demands while being tariffed to death
You're going to have one hell of a meltie when this hubris you express online is totally circumvented by your leaders caving to American demands. I can't even say it's a bad thing since you already expected Americans to go die defending your landmass.
your leaders caving to American demands.
Trump is in no position to issue demands. All his microchip factories are dropping like flies, one by one.
"how things are going"
Well, you mean?
You are in denial, stop sucking the orange cock for 5 second and open your eyes . he'll fuck the economic up for good if this continue.
You think everything is about you?
I explain the state of affairs, and you presume to deny it without argument.
This is a general indictment of middle-class tankies.
there's no labor like slave labor
no, us REAL Americans will trust the plan and go to the factories to work those jobs. MAGA
Nigger are you stupid? It has been the opposite all this time. More Europeans died for American(Jewish) interests than vice versa. You are falling into this retarded pit falls of propaganda perpetuated by your Don Zion.
The funniest part of all this is watching everyone give up on muh eggs narrative, eggs were at their peak price during the end of Biden's term. Every grocery product was.
Microchip engineers are all highly paid elite jobs.
You shot yourslf in the foot.
Again, you can be a white collar middle class citizen without being a gender study graduate.
Engineers
The design is done in the labs not the fabs.
Now *there's* a strawman.
More Europeans died for American(Jewish) interests than vice versa
Yeah all of those Belgians who made up a bulk of military presence in the Middle East for twenty years. Never mind the glut of Estonian military outposts across Europe, especially in the east. And don't forget the perpetual training offered by the Swiss army to every single country in Europe.
It's amazing how few Europeans understand the things you brag about are a direct result of having an extremely small military budget, owed to the United States having an extremely large one.
Free trade. All this is just to stop China from doing what the US was doing, noone wouldve gave a fuck if this was only imposed on China, it would make sense, but dragging everyone else down to make the US more prosperous has just made it so that everyone is now looking for alternatives to the US.
China has reimpossed its complete ban on American movies and is moving to do the same with videogames after the success of its videogame sector that has blown the US out of the water
Think about that alone, the past 20 years China has been the sole reason some movies and games even break even. People sorely underestimate how big China is, all of Europe, Russia and the US does not even make up half of the Chinese population, they will not miss doing trade with the US the way the US will miss having cheap as shit trade with them
start making American materials
At 10x the price, even with the tariffs its still too expensive in America, the free trade market was the entire reason the US was so prosperous, everyone wanted to SELL to them, not to BUY from them.
The labs are in Israel.
don't worry when the tariff impact is felt AND the feds cuts the rates we'll get all the inflation we could ever want.
Design is done by LLM machines. Th portion that isn't, has ben outsourced to AMD pajeets.
You're already dead man walking, but you jut don't know it yet.
That's why they're an ally.
noone wouldve gave a fuck if this was only imposed on China
If that happened China would stick their hand up your ass and use European nations as vassal states to keep the grift going through whatever loophole in policy existed, and you guys would support every minute of it. You already have insane standards imposed exclusively onto American products so that they can't possibly be sold in Europe. If you're going to behave like a chink jew then you're going to be kicked in the dick like one during restructuring.
China has a prosperous middle class that dwarfs the entire population of the United Sharts of Amuttica lol
Trump literally called himself "Tariff Man"
What grift anon, just becuase its not the US behind them it doesnt mean its bad.
but theyll try to subvert and undermine you
DOGE exposed that it was actually the US the whole time that has been doing it.
we dont want western hegemony just replace it with china, nothing can go wrong
insane standards
The real issue is that America's are too low. Americans shouldn't accept clorinated chicken and murderous cybertrucks either.
if you put tariffs on us so your smaller market doesnt get demolished by our megacorporations you are just siding with China
if we cant dominate you, China will, you should pick us because...were not China
Actually, you're just jealous and want that air pollution (manufacturing) back to your own country.
Stop trying to deceive us already. Cunt.
The fact that every country isnt rushing to be friends with China (who doesnt do mutually beneficial trade agreements either) and is instead whining about America tells you everything you need to know
kek
American products are cheaply-made
We need to put our trust in China whose products are notoriously well-made
>The fact that every country isnt rushing to be friends with China
?? The whole global south is friends with China.
Xi is the first guy everybody want to shake hands with at G20.
About that you fucking retard lol
If you think that's true then what's the problem? Go live under a Chinese boot instead of an American one, you're already mostly there. Instead you whine about the United States implementing tariffs as a strong-arm method to renegotiate how American products can be sold in your country. Why is that? Just forget the USA and be friends with China. There isn't some downside to that, right?
isn't trump boosting tariffs on china to 104%
This, Xi believes his own propaganda and that's lethal for the leader of a country like China.
If you think that's true
KEJ, you're dumb a fuck.
Even Mileei i a Xi fanboy now.
Yeah, because he wants Vietnam to also stop acting as a tariff harbor, China will move goods to there and ship them to the US to avoid tariffs.
If everything is going perfectly then why the huge outcry and complaints?
And Vietnam will commonly work as a middleman, where China sends goods there to send to the US to avoid tariffs. Trump wants them to not do this, because China is his main target.
A few blue bastions in Europe till held on..
Denmark, trade so much with Burgrlards... but burgers threaten to take Danish territory, Denmark will not remain blue for much longer.
France, Italy, UK, all a matter of time before they turn red.
People are laughing at you, mutt.
ODing on copium, ActBlue?
IQ Test: Look at this article and express your views on current politics
You couldn't find your penis with a microscope, yellow man.
Just buy game consoles made in the US.
Wait a minute...
We need to cull chickens until they agree to make more eggs.
Wrong again, Mutt.
Really funny libtard
if eggs are so expensive, why are people still buying them?
Give me another reply, yellow man. I command you to.
well given current demographics youll be either yellow or brown in a few decades
inb4 no,u mutt!
trick question: the article is fake news designed to rile up libs into thinking that the sky is falling (again)
This Mutt is mad as fuck right now.
FJB! We can handle this.
city grocery store prices
Still the best and cheapest source of protein. Other shit has increased in price too
Thanks, orange retard.
I don't care about any of those. Got mine.
You're evil and you're a nigger, so why should we believe anything you have to say?
I agree that these tariffs are dumb, but there were obvious downsides to maximalist free trade that you're ignoring. We all just lived through COVID when there were shortages of everything from crucial medical supplies to baby formula because we all got too complacent relying on one third-world shithole to make the whole global supply chain work. There are entire areas of the US that were hollowed out by NAFTA and never recovered. It hasn't been the rose-colored view that you're peddling, the cost of cheap shit from China has turned out to be higher than it says on the pricetag.
There's also nothing wrong with using smart targeted tariffs as part of a broader economic plan. Reagan did it successfully. So did Trump in his first term, and then Biden kept those tariffs in place. These tariffs aren't smart or targeted and there's no real plan. And they won't get any factories built because there are other reasons besides our trade deals that nothing ever gets built here anymore.
Anon everyone is already friends with China lol, thats what the US doesnt like.
tariffs imposed on China even before this
China just sets up industry elsewhere in other countries
China pays whatever taxes just to get around the tariffs and sell products to America because they want to move more things, because moving more products in more places means more profit. They dont want to muscle America out of hte market they are simply out performing them because the amount of people in China is nearly half of all fucking humans on the planet
Its why the tariffs are on everyone, China is everywhere with everyone, noone has problems iwth China but the US. Chinas ambition is purely profit, their shit is cheap, they make a lot of it, and they dont have fucked up global presence that dips into wars every 10 years where trade is rocked, whereas Americas ambition is hegemony, they want to be king of earth, they want to be the best via changing the rules, not just trade better.
Shit, America is competing in a race it shouldnt even be running. Why the fuck would the sweat shops come back to the US, the whole point of the US was that it was better to live there, not just better for rich people to make money. China is effectively opperating a living warehouse that sells goods, there is so many people that labour is disposable and the people are treated as such, America wants to turn America into that just to compete in a race it shouldnt even be running in.
You mutts gotta tell me where you get your copium that's some strong shit
Anon everyone is already friends with China
then why is anyone surprised america is doing things to either fix that or become stronger isolationists
In any case China got fucked because they're losing out on manufacturing
China only lost some silly assembling line jobs.
What they gained in China, is far more valuable.
This is America's loss.
There’s nothing smart about what he’s doing. He’s just looking at the trade deficit with a country, dividing it by 2, and slapping it on as a tariff
We don’t even have factories up and running that could have made American-made commodities an option to avoid the tariffs. It will take well over a decade to build up the manufacturing sector needed to not have to pay tariffs. I give it to the end of the week before you realize how bad tariffs really are
then why is anyone surprised
Anyone would be surprise if their ally tried to annex their territory (greenland)
you would have to be a braindead mutt not to be surprised.
everyone is already friends with China
noone has problems iwth China but the US
they dont have fucked up global presence that dips into wars every 10 years
Chinas ambition is purely profit whereas Americas ambition is hegemony
they want to be the best via changing the rules (not china)
America is competing in a race it shouldnt even be running
I hope you didn't write all this bait for free, the CCP usually pays for this sort of trash.
Half of Americans have been in a cult for over a decade now and believe every last word Dear Leader says
clearly all your problems will be solved by china, let americans be isolationist and live in chinese paradise!
put tariffs on Taiwan
the one nation that's the big center of microchip manufacturing
after killing Biden's plan to start up domestic microchip production
It's fascinating to see
"IP" was never real. You can't prevent other people from copying your idea just because you came up with it first. Took you long enough to find that out.
I don't understand how there's a chip slump. There's dozens of chips in everything nowadays. Is it a general slump in production of goods???
You're obsessed with China.
we have plenty of chink agents in this very thread
It's a year greater than 1776 so yes this statement is true.
The main reason America is so invested in Taiwan’s safety is because it’s one of the only semiconductor manufacturing plants on earth
America was going to start making their own, but Dear Leader said that shit was gay
nintendo backed the wrong horse, they should've bent the knee to the US instead of china
now their system is dead
chud-buddha posters are morons, disciples of mangalawyer
I wonder if I should order one. I honestly expect that they have already so many pre-orders they cannot possibly fulfil them all.
What Trump did is like quitting your current job for a better paying one but without actually getting the position guaranteed on your gut feelings alone. You can't do something like this without having a plan. The US doesn't have any manufacturing industries that are capable enough to compensate for all the goods they import from those shithole countries or large enough manpower to sustain an economic model like China.
I literally said multiple times in my post that these tariffs aren't smart. You're arguing with a strawman.
Nothing's getting built even in a decade. It doesn't matter what kind of trade deals we have when NIMBYs and the climate cult have made it borderline impossible to build anything here. Trump has put no thought into any of this and his stance on trade deficits is ironically the same zero-sum logic that the left applies to race: that "disparate impact" is enough to prove wrongdoing regardless of context.
It really is as simple as Trump has fucking dementia. His family is prone to it, his father had it. He hasn't made his medical records public since 2015, he's the first president to really do that. He's in the middle stages of losing his fucking mind. "Sleepy Joe doesn't know where he is" was complete projection from a dying brain.
I couldn’t give a shit less. Japan and Vietnam have both come to the negotiating table already, and Trump currently has China bent over his knee.
If some bing bings are all it takes to make you lose nerve, you were useless to begin with.
I don't understand how there's a chip slump.
PMICs use to be America's specialty.
But suddenly Huawei sold better than apple
On thing led to another, and USA ended up tanning China from TSMC and ASML.
China has now made their own ASML
and their own TSMC.
They now produce the best PMICs in China, and doesn't buy from the hostile Americans anymore.
American PMIC foundries break on by one bfor our eyes
Because whats the problem, this is why free trade is good anon, America and the west at large are great exactly because they outscource certain jobs and resource acrument and focus their economy on other shit that they deem more important or substantive
Free trade is getting other countries to do a section of work for your country so you can focus on something else, where if you try to do everything yourself your not able to commit more resources to the things your country is actually good at.
Retarded statements like this are on the same level of saying Hitler was a gay jew with 1 testicle and is why you lose elections
American retardation is a fucking treat to witness kek
Trump currently has China bent over his knee.
No he doesn't.
Sucking his cock is not going to cure his dementia, you know that, right? You know Fred Trump was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and dementia, right?
You didn't learn Donald Trump existed in 2015, right?
this
Even if i'm retarded i still feel at ease knowing i am not some ugly brownoid ironic weeb.
number go up!
Yes anon, this is a race the US should not and cannot run, China has nearly half the global population on it, its labour is cheap, the only way for America to make its line go up is to do the same. Which means lower living standards, make people appreciative of getting paid shit because at least they have a job, own nothing, and dont step out of line, where you are an ant in a colony, with no upward momentum or prospects other than what you were born to. America cannot beat China unless it does this.
The American economy will collapse while China's will thri - hhHUUAAAGGGH???!! NO! NO NO NO!! 救救我黑鬼男人!! 救救我黑鬼男人!!!!!
is because it’s one of the only semiconductor manufacturing plants on earth
This is wrong.
TSMC just focus on the mot high-end chips,
(high-end is actually minority)
Other foundries in America, focused on low-end chips.
Until they decided to be hostile to China.
Now China make those low-end chips themselves.
This
I feel like them having to announce their """inaction""" defeated the whole purpose
They like paying federal taxes for some reason.
that's what panic looks like
they don't have anything meaningful to retaliate with
well erm...we wont watch your movies anymore chuds!
ok cool americans don't even watch our own movies lmfao
that industry eating shit doesn't change a thing
We heard this same statement 300 years ago from economic theorists and it was immediately proven wrong by the Industrial Revolution.
Because isolationism is fucking retarded, especially on a country of the USA's scale. It's not feasible or compatible with any kind of modern industry. Its proponents are morons who don't have even a passing familiarity with any kind of industry or production and they don't think about the products they consume on a daily basis. "Oh, just make coffee in Hawaii then!" FOR THE ENTIRE USA? They don't THINK.
mutt thinking hes white
Kek
MIGA’s 4D giga brain chess move for the economy is to become a sweatshop country like Vietnam
Jesus Christ mutts
This isn't dementia, it's narcissism and ego. Tariffs have been Trump's #1 issue for decades and he's doing this because he wants to prove himself right.
He also wasn't wrong about Biden. We basically had a presidency by committee where everything was signed by autopen because Biden had no clue what was going on most of the time. Even the Democrats have stopped pretending that he wasn't senile.
ITT no one understands why products sold on Alibaba are cheaper (its not the slave labor)
If you don’t see that as the act of desperation that it is, I don’t know what to tell you. It’s not like China hasn’t been moving away from American films in favor of their own domestic industry anyway. Heaven forbid Hollywood be forced to restructure and downsize those budgets. We don’t need 20 $200+ million superhero slopfests releasing every year.
They have next to no leverage, because China is a net exporter, and the US is their biggest importer. All they buy from us is stuff like soibeans and agricultural supplies, so their reciprocal tariffs don’t mean nearly as much. They had their biggest single-day stock market crash since 2008, and while China has enough of an economy to push back for a time, it’s really just a matter of who blinks first, and frankly, the US holds the cards here.
Surely it won't end up that high, but it'll be pretty damn funny.
The Industrial Revolution made a very select few people rich, consolidated populations into tightly-packed cities, took the first steps towards automobile manufacturers lobbying to make "walkable cities" illegal in America, and prized work environments where you could lose a limb without warning and your boss would shriek and shit his pants and try to kill you and your entire family if you objected to losing a limb.
Largest net exporter will be just fine if largest net importer decides to stop buying
I thank the Lord my IQ is not this low
You know that’s because the government is buying it all up in an effort to keep it propped up, right?
China is not "desperate" by completely severing Hollywood, you acknowledge this in the outright next sentence you write. Get a fucking grip.
why isnt china also doing that?
Vanilla can't be grown in the US at all either.
There are more megacorporations that own everything in the past 30 years than at any point in history. Do you think there are more jobs and prospects like buying housing and setting up a business today than there was in your parents youth? Ask why that is and what changed.
Enormous amounts of beef comes from Australia, too, the US doesn't produce anywhere near enough beef to sustain its own populace and American beef is notoriously susceptible to mad-cow disease and tongue and feet diseases. Per-capita Aussie produces like 5x the beef the USA does. Isolationism means beef becomes a local delicacy and super scarce.
everyone on both sides believe the current system is broken beyond repair
trump throws a hand grenade into it
nooo stop!! the system!!!!!
There are more megacorporations that own everything in the past 30 years than at any point in history
What country are they in?
Nintendo switch games are made in Japan.
Western films
Modern western flims
Why would you place such torture on anyone.
China did nothing wrong.
Movies will stop fellating chink cock
I see this as an absolute win.
why didn't he perform repairs instead of throwing a hand-grenade into it?
and why is it a demented retirement-home escapee that throws a hand-grenade into the global economy, just like reagan did
Can't wait for the MIGA cult to come full circle and unironically tell us to eat bugs and live in pods to own the libs. They've already been floating "you'll own nothing and be happy" style messaging.
american farmers export meat to other countries because they get a higher price for it
all the lamb we eat in america is australian because none of the domestic producers sell it here
we have artificially high meat prices because of greedy farmers forcing us to import something we make domestically
it's time they learn, it's time everyone learns
You're gonna have to go to arthouse indie stuff to see movies and you're definitely not gonna like anything you see there if sanitized-for-China films make you want to peel your skin off already.
Child is sick
take child to doctor
doctor shoots him in the head
”Why are you mad he’s no longer sick”
dont look at this chart, trump is killing the stock market
Don't threaten me with a good time, China. Please don't also do this to modern audience games.
The difference is that we have options. The US is the world’s largest economy, they can afford to just shrug us off.
A lot of companies have already moved manufacturing over to countries like India and Vietnam (including Nintendo), to the point where China was trying to obstruct them by refusing to allow them to lease out the Chinese plants. The US is their largest importer, but we can get that shit elsewhere, and in time, produce a lot of that shit here, automation making up for the Chinese slave labor. This has been an unsustainable system that prior administrations have been content to just kick the can down the road on, but Trump was just the one who had the balls to pull the trigger.
you've been saying he has dementia for 10 years, you don't get to pull that when your guy literally had dementia and was sundowning live on tv during a debate
Blaming "automobile manufacturers" for why our cities aren't walkable is like when people cite "good schools" as their reason for moving to the suburbs. We all know what the actual reason is.
Light at the end of this tunnel is literally sewing Nike shoes and assembling iPhone we can no longer afford
China isn't controlled by stockmarket oligarchs.
That's America's specialty.
yeah well your guy has dementia too
how does this excuse trump's dementia? trump is sundowning live on TV every time he appears. people were already saying he was noticeably confused and zero energy during his last rallies
I’m saying this doesn’t change a fucking thing, and isn’t the own you think it is. This is just them trying something ANYTHING to get back at the US.
Salam!
Damn, if only there was a way to prevent that specific scenario without dishing out blanket tariffs on everything and everyone...
No, the message is
You'll own nothing and I'll be happy
Please enjoy the fruits of engineering a society that prevents ordinary people from owning homes, starting families and attaining actual employment. Your retirement fund and blue chips are going to hit absolute zero. Your last few moments on this planet will be getting socked in the face by Kongquisha in a nursing home. Your legacy in the new and better world will be how repugnant you were and how everyone's happy you are gone.
that's what they do in canada
you don't like universal healthcare suddenly?
Yeah but they didn’t actually let Biden dictate policy lol
this is the weirdest attempt at gaslighting
tariffs aren't calculated into the final sales price directly but into cost of production. the price will raise but not as much.
Uhh, what happened between 2022 and 2023
Most of our beef comes from Brazil.
i genuinely believe a demented biden when the meds kicked in for 5 minutes would of had better policy lol
It does not take a smart person to come to the conclusion that car lobbyists that have existed for a century are why cities and the modern American work structure unperson you if you don't have a car, unless your town or city has existed since before the car was invented. Feel free to tell me the Jews are the real reason though.
Not even that. Those factories will never be built, and even if they somehow were, they'll just be staffed by robots that were programmed by Rajesh and Prajeet in India for pennies on the dollar.
No no you don't understand, China has a FREE economic sector, its government doesnt control it at all!
It's not the only industry
We're fucked
Walkable cities dont exist because of niggers, the same reason very wealthy towns in America frequently dont even have a bus or train line.
help help i'm being gaslit
when did you adopt terms from teenaged girls and turbo-feminists on tumblr, and how are you going to divest yourself of these terms from your vocabulary, seeing as i know where your playbook comes from?
America anon, services are the biggest industry on the planet right now.
I’m saying that’s what China is doing, ESL.
Math checks out. Rest of the world gets normal prices.
You're dumb a fuck.
the people who own stockmarket in China are usually globalists, enemies of the people.
That's why they can just die without being bailed out by the government.
sexo
chinese factories do everything by hand because robots performing ALL tasks is retarded
american factories will just have managers and robotics repairmen because uhhhhhhh
the fully automated assembly line is a middle-manager's wet dream and it still doesn't exist
you can see in real time when the astroturfer tells the guy bad at arguing to leave the thread so his manager can take over
market fair value
you mean price fixing?
same reason very wealthy towns in America frequently dont even have a bus or train line.
This is also automobile lobbying
canada got raped by pre-order delays too
lol
3rd times the charm
notice the typing has flip flopped multiple times
Democrats telling Trump supporters they are supporting a guy with dementia after 4 years of Biden is the funniest thing. It's all you need to look at to completely dismiss them as anything but a court jester here to make us laugh with their buffooning.
Actually it's called gaslamping.
I don't vote
t. Giga Chud
Walkable cities dont exist because of niggers
Imagine being this fucking retarded. It's because the car monopolies fucked over all urban development. Everybody thought American cars would be a priority and gas would stay cheap until Republicans and Democrats started forcing America to import more and more oil and Jap cars ended up fucking over American cars because they had better milage as gas prices continued to inflate. That's most of middle America doesn't have public transportation and it's only really in more developed coastal states or only in major cities in middle America. The entire Midwest is decades behind the rest of the country because of this.
trump having dementia is a bit self-evident
trump using it as an insult for joe biden is projection on his part
his father went senile! why do people think it won't happen to trump, or hasn't already happened in the same age bracket
I am actually pissed off, why does trump think he can win a trade war?! Other nations are better at manufacturing because of slave labor! How does he plan on competing!?
I will just keep play gacha games all day. none of this will impact me.
As a non American, why should I care. American isolationism is not my problem and their cultural exports for the past 30 years have been nothing but destructive to everywhere they have influence.
I still rememeber the George Floyd murals in Afghanistan.
lose argument
start vagueblogging about shills and nooticing
The only thing you've nooticed is your own bellybutton
Trump
gets on stage and talks for an hour
there's enough material to know what his plan is and for the press to whine about it
Biden
could not be on camera for more than 5 minutes
in a live debate he began sundowning and was ejected from the presidential race within 24 hours
Stop typing, retard. You were shown what dementia looks like and ignored it because you are a drone who believes Orange Man Bad.
"We're just going to have robots build everything" is quite literally the rationale that Trump's advisors are using for these tariffs. I'm glad you agree that Trump's plan is retarded.
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gaslight is a new term
came from the 1900s, retard
people were already saying
People weren't saying this. leftists were saying it, and they were saying it to deflect from Biden's actual dementia that they were denying for four years until he embarrassed them on TV in front of the entire planet. You don't control the narrative anymore, but it is hilarious watching you flounder as if you still do.
Holy shit you are both illiterate and retarded
People weren't saying this. leftists were saying it,
what a fucking cop-out
Call for more backup from the 'cord, sista. Only three more years of suffering. You won't rope before then, right?
I sure can't wait for the other guy who isn't you to also say he's not samefagging
if after seeing what happend with floyd and video games you still think leftists are people your a lost cause
Trump
gets on stage and talks for an hour
there's enough material to know what his plan is and for the press to whine about it
The guy known for rambling even during his first presidency? Huh? If he were clear-headed you could pare Trump's average 2016-era speech down to five minutes.
When you say "people are saying" the implication is that some notable number of humans were expressing whatever sentiment. leftists aren't human and there aren't many of you.
Hope that helps.
Everyone I don't like is the antichrist.
I think a part of that is also cope that they no longer get Thielbuxx. Like No Jumper, Grummz, The Quartering and more are all in financial trouble.
I sure can’t wait for your typing style to change.
The "car monopolies" aren't the ones who started burning and looting cities when someone who looked like them overdosed on fentanyl. The "car monopolies" aren't the reason why New York had to call in the National Guard to secure the subway system. The "car monopolies" aren't the ones covering sidewalks with used needles and feces.
The car companies also didn't lobby against city designs in 2020, mouthbreather
car monopolies
only came into being because of state monopoly grants.
zoning LAWS also contributed to that. look at japan and how they have walkable cities because of their laxer zoning laws.
orange retard says tariffs are both permanent and simultaneously open to negotiation
Imagine trying to cover this clown show logically
What happened to the Kochs? I remember back when Trump voters were naming George Soros that was your clap-back. Now it's Thiel?
There is no "city design" in the world that can make cities not be shitholes when their governments coddle the most dysfunctional and antisocial parts of their population. Taking away cars without addressing the actual issues will just make cities worse and make more productive people move out of them.
I hope Turmp kills nintendo.
clap back
pokimane references
phone posting to computer posting
go back to discord and stay there
Kochs, Adelsons, Thiel, Heritage Foundation. Lots of things really.
Liberal think tanks are ironically a bit more behind the times. Steve Bannon really was quite an influence here, but like you can't pretend to be an anti-elite type while sucking off all these pro-Israel and indian shitposters. Go back to r/conservative retard
Yet if we put all the financial boogeyman backing Candidate A or Candidate B in a room, Trump's guys are outnumbered 75 to 1.
Actual working class vs Neets, Niggers and the Ownership class (Bourgousie)
but you don't understand anon, look at the American jobs :
We can't make it any clearer to you that nogs have literally nothing to do with whether or not your grocery store is within walking distance and seething about the George Floyd riots in 2020 has literally nothing to do with anything that happened around 1920.
The clearest takeaway from any of this is that Trump hasn't known what a tariff is for as long as he's been obsessed with them.
a calculator wouldn't make this kind of stupid mistake