this case literally killed the speedrunning community
What went so horribly wrong ? I browse any gaming site and it's people making fun of speedrunners whenever you bring up this case
this case literally killed the speedrunning community
What went so horribly wrong ? I browse any gaming site and it's people making fun of speedrunners whenever you bring up this case
speedrunning is a disease, thats why no death/no hit runners are infinitely better
Speedrunners are retarded, also very strong overlap with being troons. Even the judge agreed that the speedrunning community are awful
I only watch 100% because it's where all the chill are at and don't give a fuck if they screw up the run.
Any %/ glitched is where it seems all the clinically insane are where they are at.
kek, sounds like they're describing Anon Babble.
Yeah well that judge is a lamer.
Billy Mitchel was my hero when I was a kid, teachers used to give us assignments where we had to write about who we wanted to be like when we grew up and I would always write about Billy.
Then I stumbled upon a Karl Jobst video calling my hero Billy a murderer and even worse a cheater. It messed me up mentally, especially seeing all the comments on the video also insulting Billy instead of defending him.
I started to believe Karls lies myself and I felt like Billy was not the hero I thought he was, those videos threw me in a depression that lasted for years and has only been cured now after Billy has proven his innocence to the world.
Can I sue Karl for the mental distress he caused me by slandering my hero?
HIGHSCORE ROLLAS WERE WE AT
I dont like a lot of 100% because most of the time, they're TAS runs
if I want to watch other runs other than no hit/no death, they're usually RTA runs
don't those runners end up speedrunning anyway? When like a 100 people manage to finish the game deathless, deathless isn't impressive anymore so they try to finish deathless as fast as possible. Same for hitless
Any% killed speedrunning. It stopped being about playing the game really, really well and just became about trying to give the game an aneurysm so it warps you to the credits.
Glitched any% is the worst category ever conceived, at that point you're not even playing the game anymore, it's just skipping shit.
Every dev should just put an easy glitch in the tutorial that immediately skips to the ending so that the any% retards fuck off.
killed the speedtroon community
don't get my hopes up OP
Speedrunning is the most degenerate act man has ever come up with.
A quote to live by.
Speedrunning was already killed by troons by making it a community.
in a way, yes, deathless/no hit runs will devolve into speedrun, but as CarcinogenSDA (Resident Evil no hit runner) put it, a speed run is different from no hit run, speed runs most of the time get hit or use various bugs and glitches to get to the finish faster. a no hit/no death run is different, they may have overlaps, but no hit runs focus on making a very smooth and perfect run of the game like racing a perfect lap
RWGoose proven right once again
My friends...It just keeps happening.
killed the speedrunning community
good
be Jobst
continue lashing out at Billy Mitchell
lash out against judge
lash out against your lawyer
Why does he do it?
Scorerunners is where is at, go hit Dodonpachi and score the highest shit you can get.
funniest part is Billy will, for sure, put out the same olive branch to Jobst as he did to Apollo Legend and offer to waive the settlement fees if he just apologizes and issues a retraction. Knowing full well that Jobst isn't going to ever do that.
You won't believe this, but Billy Mitchell cheated.......... in *COIN SOUND* *COIN SOUND* *WAHOOOOOOO!!*
Pride.
high score community > speedtroon community
Why does he do it?
Speedtranny retardation and autism combined with eceleb youtuber inflated ego and arrogance.
He's been coping in his discord about how the judge was biased, how he never mislead anyone and how he's going to appeal the decision and this time for sure he'll finally defeat the evil billy!
be karl jobst
lose this case on purpose for the publicity
get more viewers thus more money
Does no one see through this guy like me?
Billy: You don't have to job anymore, we can put it all behind us.
Karl: Never, I will never surrender to the likes of you!
why do billy threads get deleted when he is a GAMER?
That's a jobst problem
Gotta love the Sauce King of Kong!
He's trying to scam what little followers he has left.
Noted. I will do this in my game. Glitch city.
down $1.5M+
more money
hope it was worth it
Posting in a Billy board. Billy website even
why are jannies faggots?
You can't win against the King of Kong
Hope he does it just for the hilarity of it getting rejected and his youtube video about it being filled with people shitting on him
Does anyone have that image of the speedrun categories and each category is represented with a speedrun tranny.
I haven't seen that image in a long time and I could use a laugh
This but unironically
based KING enjoyer
I never stopped believing in you, Billy
this case literally killed the speedrunning community
41% of the speedrunning community already kill themselves
Karl's family is now rebranded as:
Billy's wife
Billy's kid
Billy's house
stop defaming jobst
Best I can do is this
Karl is obviously a very opinionated person. He made the decision that Billy is his personal enemy and he will stick with that decision until the end.
Can I get a qrd of this shit. I get Billy plays something like pacman and jobst is a YouTuber who lied to his audience about who the aggressor was in this trial so that he could milk his audience. But what the fuck was this all about in the first place?
Kek
Judge is an aussie, tho. So his standards on what constitutes reasonable is likely very skewed considering he'd lock you up for posting something insulting online
Hello you absolute anons, can you write the script of my apology video for me. I'm too busy with the divorce stuff to finish it
But what the fuck was this all about in the first place?
This actually started with a previous Youtuber named Apollo Legend who got an autistic fit about Billy's record in Donkey Kong. The standards for proof of score records was way lower back in the day, you just needed a referee to verify it. Apollo spent ages sifting through mountains of data to prove that Billy did not play his record through on the hardware he claimed that he did.
in the end Billy said "Who cares, the Referee said I did so fuck you." and Apollo, having failed to take Billy's score down, got ousted from his friend community and roped.
Then comes Karl. Who seemingly has a grudge against Billy. Accusing Billy of causing Apollo to rope and for cheating his record. It turns out, cheating a record in Donkey Kong isn't actually a civil offense, and accusing someone of causing someone's death absolutely is. So the judge ruled against him. It wasn't helped by Apollo specifying in his suicide note that Karl's friends "gave him the push" to rope himself and didn't mention Billy at all. So now you're here, finding out that the Speedrunning community is full of narcissistic jackasses who backstab each other at every opportunity.
And this is true too, there's no way this defamation case would fly in America, but Australia is one of the more cucked colonies and you have to prove you didn't harm someone's reputation with what you say because everything is upside-down in Australia including its laws.
That said, I don't think accusing someone of pushing someone else to suicide would fly in America either.
It's sad watching Anon Babble dickride a 60 year old manchild just to be contrarian
le king of le kong
even his cheated MAME score isn't even top 5 anymore
im sure to win because my speed is superior
contrarian
nigga Anon Babble was all-in on karl before he was ruled against.
Only because people figured out a way past the first kill screen for a brief bump. Billy is still very good at the game and could maybe go back to it if he gave enough of a fuck about it, he's 60 now and doesn't care.
and Apollo, having failed to take Billy's score down, got ousted from his friend community and roped.
This is what I'm certain the real reason he was ousted for is. Because the exact same thing is happening right now with Karl Jobst. If you look up discussion of this online (reddit or twitter), you'll find near every single post there is calling him a white supremacist and a nazi and how he's always been known as one and no one ever liked him. It's cultlike. What the fuck do these people really have against Billy lmao, he's about as innocuous as they come. Even if he was a huge cheater and never played a game in his life, what the hell does it matter?
Billy Mitchell was a big dick Donkey Kong player that set a bunch of records and used it to launch a career selling hot sauce basically
years down the line some allegations came out that he cheated some of his records
the allegations are mostly that he used emulated hardware instead of original hardware
the amount of advantage it would give him is dubious (basically just alters RNG), and it's also unclear if he was even aware of the advantage
he set his actual records that matter in front of audiences every time so there was no actual cheating
the allegations basically boil down to some of his records maybe being in the wrong speedrunning category
years later, a YouTuber hits him with a bunch of cheating allegations and makes videos of it
Billy takes him to court for defamation and wins, but doesn't press severe charges or demand a lot of money for damages, basically just asks him to apologize and stop the allegations
this YouTuber does so but eventually kills himself
ANOTHER YouTuber (Karl) is also alleging that Billy cheated and then proceeds to say that Billy is the reason the first guy killed himself
Billy takes him to court over this latter allegation because it's incredibly serious
Karl basically lies to his audience by implying he has a strong case and not mentioning that the case is over the suicide allegations
Karl's first lawyer advises he settles because he has no case
Karl fires his lawyer and gets a second one that's willing to do the case (and fleece money out of him)
all of this despite the fact that the guy that killed himself had a suicide note that didn't mention Billy and instead directly named several people that had harassed him leading up to his death (these people are friends of Karl's)
Karl gets absolutely annihilated in court after scamming his audience out of a lot of money and openly lying to them
details come out after he loses, audience turns on him
It's all incredibly autistic.
the alternative is Jobst
"Hi cosmo" was definitely the thing that messed him up the most.
It's absolutely cult like and I think what Apollo really got ousted for is taking the deal with Billy to not pay a cent and instead issue a retraction, which he did. It's just proof that people online are two-faced backstabbers who look out for their own egos first, "online friends" are a myth.
I recall here (UK) there was a case where a woman explicitly named her ex-bf multiple times over as the reason she was killing herself in her suicide note, and while he got arrested he didn't get charged with murder/manslaughter (was controlling behaviour instead)
Karl's an incredible retard if he thinks he can get this pinned on Billy when Apollo Legend outright said he wasn't the reason
drama youtuber
vs
60 year old manchild that has a history of throwing defamation lawsuits at anyone who points out his cheats and lies, and has lost 9 of them and even tried to sue cartoon network for making a parody of him
What the fuck lol
Who gives a shit about beating a 50 year old video game really fast? How fucked must your life be that it's a priority at all. For fucks sakes just admit the standards were different back then and moderate your own scoreboards or whatever the fuck speedrunners use to show who's the best. It's literally a non-issue.
Even if it was a major speedrunning scoreboard publisher that constantly published fake winners, just make your own website with results you think are correct.
If Karl didn't become pro trans and back stab Goose then I guarantee anons would be on here defending him like they lost the case themselves.
Any new drama?
Is his wife single yet?
play game fast
penis falls off
accidentally groom children on discord
I support whoever is funnier
hot sauce salesman and family man
vs
tranny defender
I know which side I'm taking
lol no Anon Babble likes winners and Billy is the winningest gamer in history
doubt it. he took pity on apollo legend because he was poor and struggling, jobst is rich and got richer by living on defaming billy.
I never followed the whole story, just visited Anon Babble threads over the years, and the whole situation is fucking bizarre. It's about some guy allegedly cheating in an arcade game and suing some another rando youtuber and some other rando offing himself because he had shit genetics or something? And Anon Babble and kiwifarm niggers consider this the height of entertainment too and have constant threads about it? I might be getting old, but all of this feels like a colossal waste of time for everyone involved.
i actually thought Karl was a right-wing chud like me and I STILL hated him. lol
I'm weirdly principled when it comes to mob-justice. if you start riling people for weekly crusades, then fuck you.
The Apollo Legend videos about that obvious fake and the shady Twin Galaxies judge who helped him were really good, flew way too high with Billy though
It's just a different speedrunning category. Like any% versus no glitch runs or hard mode versus easy mode. In the end, every category eventually comes down to speed when enough people get involved. I think no damage runs are way cooler than simple any% runs, though.
watching other people play video games in any capacity is for fucking retarded faggots
I think it depends on what else you do. There are many speedrunners whose entire lives are gaming and they have nothing else going for them besides competing for some obscure low-stakes "record." On the other hand, competing for high scores hasn't stopped Mitchell from running his own business.
Glitched any% is cancer. Any% glitchless is better. At least then you're actually playing the game.
Exactly.
Billy also sued Karl for calling him a cheater. The judge threw that one out because Billy very clearly and blatantly was a cheater.
The issue is that he probably didn't cause Apollo Legend to kill himself, or at least, they can't prove that.
no way he really said this
Glitched category is honestly asking for it. I'd watch those speedruns if glitches are at least entertaining, otherwise at some point it's all going to come to
"and here we use industrial-grade magnet on a console to skip to the black screen that appears at the end of the game, thus we just beat the game... 0.01"... It's world record!"
I wonder what was in the spoiler image
Karl basically lies to his audience by implying he has a strong case and not mentioning that the case is over the suicide allegations
It was over both things. Karl mentioned multiple times that Billy had laid two lawsuits against him.
He won the first, he lost the second.
Drama YouTuber
Billy can be a serial killing rapist. It's still less worse than being a drama YouTuber
BILLY SWAPPED OUT THE JUDGE FOR AN EMULATED JUDGE!!!
Some youtuber/speedrunner named Apollo Legend tried to expose Billy for cheating a Donkey Kong world record 40 years ago. Billy and his friends, which includes the guy who manages the world records at the arcade he got the record in, all shit on this Apollo guy and refused to take the score down and said it was slander or whatever. The autistic speedrunning community then turns on Apollo Legend who literally kills himself in shame. In his suicide note he states that Billy had nothing to do with it but names other people who did.
Karl Jobst comes along to take Apollo's place and oust Billy as a big cheater, making Billy his personal enemy and getting huge youtube traction by making videos about what a scumbag lying cheater moron Billy is. Karl then has the brilliant idea to pin Apollo's suicide on Billy and makes tons of videos about it. Because Karl's now a bigger youtuber than Apollo ever was, everyone turns on Billy and his reputation is destroyed. Everyone now knows he's a horrible cheater and a bad guy who made this poor Apollo guy kill himself.
Billy sues Karl for defamation. Karl drags the drama out for literal years so he can continue making videos about nutcase cheater Billy suing him for trying to expose him for being a cheater at Donkey Kong, leaving out the part that Billy is actually suing him for making everyone think he killed Apollo. Karl starts drinking his own Kool-Aid and takes Billy to court believing he can't possibly lose the case since it's so obvious Billy cheated at Donkey Kong and the judge will surely agree.
The judge is like "wtf dude you're obsessed" and hands the win to Billy because cheating at Donkey Kong is not a crime but making people believe he caused someone's suicide is. Turns out the guys Apollo actually blamed in his suicide note were some of Karl's friends all along!
Now Karl has like millions in legal fees to pay and will probably kill himself, bringing the story full circle.
THE JUDGE'S HAMMER WAS RED
Hey anons, sorry to bother you guys but i just want to say i think you are really really really cute.
have a good thread.
john fucking numbers man
Made me check
this guy got really angry at liu bei and his 80k steamed buns
Why would someone like that even come here in the first place
Rip bozo
self-flagellation
this case literally killed the speedrunning community
I thought that was HRT
Dude we have an entire board for trannies and I don't mean Anon Babble.
The lawyers clearly fucked him.
Why is he such a retard?
billy mitchel is sleazy douche bag with cult of personality, doesn't really matter if he cheated or suicided someone, he's unlikeable nigger and has bunch of other niggers worshiping him because they're retarded cattle that need a master to bow to
CarcinogenSDA
oh lmao that takes me back, I remember back in one of the earliest agdq marathons he spent his entire run unironically talking about how long it had been since he had a cigarette and was trying to blame mistakes on nicotine withdrawal
hopefully he's become less of a clown, was this speedrun/no hit run in the context of him trying to be superior to anyone else?
Look up threads from before any drama related to him and it's people praising Billy and saying emulating is not cheating
Go back
He said he hates lawyers and ignored all their advice when they told him to shut up about the ongoing litigation and he made a million videos about it
And now he's pushing his retardation on his lawyers instead of admitting fault
God I hope this guy gets in another lawsuit, that's a free victory for the opponent every time
didn't expect a professional liar and scammer that is friends with judges and referees to not fuck him in the ass in court
Karl is immensely retarded
So it was his attorney's fault that he defamed Mitchell with reckless allegations of causing someone's suicide?
Yes anon I'm sure Billy has connections with the Australian legal system.
we are literally the only place that knew from the start he would lose that's why we keep talking about this as a show of pride
*speedrun/no hit run discussion
oops
Anons here will unironically post nonstop about this kind of shit and then call celebrity drama gossip retarded. It's all the same trash.
I assume those are his most watched videos. So gotta follow the gravy train I guess. I haven't seen any of them because I just liked Jonst telling me about a speed run, not telling me about his retard war.
Someone PLEASE send this to billy so the next juge will see it in the appeal. What an absolute retard
being stupid enough to not pay attention to what judge billy maneuvers the case into being seen by
judge is literally ken barlow
aka a plant who has next to no documentation to him
who has a history of speed-passing every single 'defamation' claim put in front of him
who clearly in the video footage absolutely couldnt stand jobst or speedrunners in general (but lets not hold this one against him)
in australia no less, which is almost as pozzed as canada insofar that feelings are everything and facts dont matter
jobst failed when he didnt think to take a hand in who the case would be seen by. justice systems are all fundamnetally flawed because at the end of the day it still depends on someone deciding if youre right or wrong and if you make that person someone inclined to like you more, you win 99% of the time
The only people who care about speedrunning are autismos and trannies who are also autismos
remember he fired his first lawyer because he was told he would lose
cant believe the judge took billy more seriously than the guy making BILLY OWNED IN COURT EPIC BTFO CLICK MY LINK TO BUY A CROTCH SHAVER videos about an ongoing case
It's the the giga-autism that causes trooning and speedrunning.
Nothing Billy did caused AL to kill himself. He didn't take any of his money. Actually Billy very reasonably just told the dumb fuck to retract his statements, apologize, and shut up about him. I don't think Billy could be a nicer guy even if he hadn't cheated those bing bing wahoo records.
I find it entertaining that Gen-Xers, redditors and now speedtrannies have been seething over some guy who got Kong high scores for over 20 years, to the point where they will even go and harass him at cons and restaurant chain he owns.
Over the years you will occasionally see redditors brag about how they "confronted" Billy at a con or one of his restaurants and called him a CHEATER to his face.
Also some will brag about trying to get Billy removed from cons or his restaurant reported to the local health department.
They are fucking unhinged about him.
Yeah but the same can be said for Karl.
Nah what Jobst did would probably go over the bar of "actual malice" in the US and accusing someone of harassing a person to suicide might be defamation per se in several states, he would lose badly in the US too.
depends even more on which judge the case ended up in front of in the usa
A lot of people crave a bad guy in their lives. Allows them to not focus on their own powerlessness and poor decisions.
judge is literally ken barlow
Who?
new Anon Babble banner just dropped
The man famously known as Kangaroo Court
Oh, it's a soap opera character. So this is like saying, "the judge is literally Victor Newman." OK, whatever.
They act like not only does Billy not deserve all the success he has but also he should disappear from public life.
A lot of it seems to be envy that Billy was still getting invited to small cons with all expenses paid, still doing charity work and has a successful chain of restaurants and regional hot sauce brand.
I doubt he's gonna let Jobst off the hook like that. Jobst is just too insufferable.
He already did when he decided to settle for the lowest amount of money possible despite the judge telling him he could ask for way more. But if Karl keeps pushing he might have to just to get him off his back
drama youtuber is definitely worse
If I was a lawyer and saw how much money he had raised, I too would have told him that he had a clear cut case and to hire me.
I believe the actual issue is this
Old Pac Man and arcade DK boomers like Billy Mitchell and Todd Rogers actually have mainstream recognition from media like Guinness World Records and whatnot
No one on the planet cares about speedrunning as a thing
Speedrunners REALLY WANT that validation from old media
So they attack the old guard to get them discredited and hopefully replace "chasing the high score" in everyday vernacular with "speedrunning" as the normalfag-approved way of saying that you're good at video games.
Reminder that Karl originally got help from fucking Notch in the form of a ALL EXPENSES PAID lawyer and allegedly Karl fired that FREE lawyer when he was told to retract and settle with Billy.
Karl asked for this judgement.
What the fuck lol
Who gives a shit about beating some 'Olympic' footrace 50 years ago? How fucked must your life be that it's a priority at all. For fucks sakes just admit the standards were different back then and moderate your own races or whatever the fuck track & field use to show who's the best. It's literally a non-issue.
this is how you sound. yeah sure in the grand scheme of the universe its probably not that big a deal but it nonetheless tarnishes the actually legitimate accomplishments of people who devoted a ton of time and effort into it in the past
be karl jobst
say "im gonna win guys"
loses
wtf lol did the judge make an example out of this guy?
From what I've seen, the judge awarded the near statutory limit of punitive damages and cited all the times in his videos where Karl bragged he was going to use a win to hound and ruin Billy.
don't worry honey, I'm going to appeal and win it all back
Imagine fucking up SO hard you make Billy Mitchell, cheater of the century, look like the hero of the story in comparison
What's the youtube video where he goes "Billy has never won once, will I be the first one to lose to Billy? Oh boy, won't that be hilarious."?
don't worry honey, I'm going to appeal and win it all back
He should go for it
Wife divorce% speedrun.
I think Karl is transforming into a lolcow at this rate, I hope he provides plenty more ments for us to enjoy
I think this is funny as fuck desu when you read the details with what the judge determined, and see what happens when a speedrunning sperg gets sued for defamation
No one actually sane enjoys speed running. It fine if you watch a run or two of your favorite game or one you enjoyed recently to see how fast it can actually be beaten, but devoting a large amount of time to watching the same game over and over, or worse doing it yourself, is just retarded.
Imagine thinking anyone with an IQ over a jar of mayonnaise cares that a nobody (or worse, you) gives a shit that you finally shaved off 0.7 seconds off of your personal best time at SMB1.
Imagine bragging about getting the fastest time on Baten Kaitos 100%, which takes literal weeks, after multiple attempts.
Imagine wasting your life caring about this shit when you can just play a good game once or twice and move on.
because speedrunning is fundamentally about cheating? no tears lost.
your honor Billy is a liar and a cheater at video games therefore it's perfectly OK for me to tell everyone he suicided Apollo legend whether or not it's true
Billy has never won once
The funniest part is that isn't even true, Billy has gotten a bunch of settlements where they agreed to his terms like reinstating his high scores, issuing apologies etc...
youtube.com
this is the video
no one sane enjoys speed running
are insane people less than sane people?
Karl was a retard because he didn't realize that all the settlements were initiated by Billy and was an easy way for his accusers to get out before they really fucked themselves. Billy offered the same thing to Karl and he told him to fuck off despite his lawyers saying that was a terrible idea.
KWAB!
I didn't listen!
But also no one told me the case was about Apollo absolute legend back then
reinstating his high scores
Twin Galaxies didn't reinstate his record. They made some meme list for it that basically goes "this used to be a thing but we no longer recognize it."
Kek, thanks.
Billy Mitchell ALWAYS has a plan.
He's definitely low iq, maybe a narcissist.
watching the mentally ill western speedrunning community
not watching the superior japanese speedrunning community
Loving
Every
Laugh
What did Karl mean by this?
Lol Karl got fucked over so hard
All the same shit to be honest. Part of the spectrum of insanity.
Would love a bottle or three, but the shipping just costs too much.
Was Jobst's wife born in Australia or an immigrant?
shilling your own video
homo
terminally online individuals are mentally stunted autistics who can't go about without insulting
Sounds about right.
is that picture AI or does Karl Jobst just cry that much?
I FVCKING KNEEL
Man I don't even say shit like that to AI when I'm having a depraved goon sesh
i find it amusing how so many cartoon art pieces are being generated by this court case
The issue is that he probably didn't cause Apollo Legend to kill himself, or at least, they can't prove that.
On the other hand, we have evidence it could've been the other way around
So what about this Todd Roger's guy, never looked into him. He has some kind of controversy too?
Why did Karl and his wife make their son a twitter profile?
for over 20 years
Nobody genuinely cared about this until the late 2000s when youtube started popping up uploaded videos.
Ironically yes in Australia you can actually do this.
if you read the lawsuit stuff Billy already offered to settle for just 50k and an apology. Karl Jobst said that he wasnt going to settle because he was sure he was going to win.
MaxmiusWong1
There's seriously another Maximus Wong?
He isn't ahead
Billy is way ahead of you, Karl. And yes, he can afford to do this again, unlike you. Now pay up.
What a stupid arrogant fuck.
Damn that’s good AI
this
wow I abused a frame perfect glitch to skip half the game!! poggerchampion!!
Billy Mitchell is a sleazeball
Why, because he takes people to court?
No, he wanted 400k + 50k in aggravated damages, the judge adjusted it down to 300k and said he could've gotten more in aggravated damages had he asked for it, but only granted what he asked
Summed up here - youtube.com
In hindsight this was what lead to Apollo Legend going after Billy
I still think its kind of bullshit these retards can show up like a decade later and harass the new owners of an organization to rescind a record and their excuse why that's reasonable is that "Billy was friendly with the old owners, therefore he bribed them for accepting high scores."
At least Namco told these retards to fuck off when they demanded Billy's recognition of being the first person to get a perfect score in classic Pac-Man to also be rescinded.
There's only one Speedrun I watch again once in a while and that is the classic Scourge Done Slick
Its nearly 20 years now if you count the pre-release advertising of the documentary
If you have somebody seriously and publicly accuse you of killing somebody and you don't sue them, you're an idiot.
You will ruin your life by accepting a false accusation of that magnitude. Billy was 100% in the right in this case.
High Scorers > Speedrunners
All speedrunners who use glitches are cheaters too. They can all suck Billy's big fat cock.
believe with all your heart that (insert person here) is a cheating scumbag who has defrauded the community of an activity that you love for decades
and has weaponized legal systems to silence/bully anyone who tries to call him out on it
(insert person here) smugly and arrogantly demands an 'apology' for your calling it out again, with the incentive being a massive lawsuit if you dont
im not even on karls side in this clusterfuck, but expecting anyone, let alone a speedrun autist, to swallow their pride and do that is ridiculous. most speedrunners i know would rather burn the entire world down rather than admit fault, regardless of if they were wrong or not, or apologize for anything, again regardless of if its warranted or not
some people just arent going to surrender and are always going to go down fighting, believing that doing so is the right thing to do, rather than capitulate to demands and feel like a coward
At least with high scores in classic arcade you can perform your record on demand like Billy has over the years
I think Karl would've won if they went to American court, his own fatal flaw was being Australian
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE RED JOYSTICK GUYS
he won
lmfao how are we a week past the lawsuit being resolved in Billy's favor and we still have complete fucking morons like you who think it was about his cheating. Unironically kill yourself you illiterate retard.
most speedrunners i know would rather burn the entire world down rather than admit fault, regardless of if they were wrong or not, or apologize for anything, again regardless of if its warranted or not
Yet another reason to hate speedtrooners
You're confusing the damages with the settlement offer
Billy wanted a full retraction and some percentage of spent legal fees
Karl's counteroffer was only 3k and nothing else
Retard.
He has lots of old fake records. The most famous is a time of 5.51 in Dragster on the Atari which is impossible.
No... Karl was supposed to win... Karl was supposed to be the hero of video games. This can't be happening
Karl really is one dumb fucker.
The real question is can you forgive yourself for doubting Billy?
this post sent me down a rabbit-hole of looking up the psychology of surrendering and what kinds of people just do not ever do it and holy fuck
damn near every single result is some cucked woke snuff piece advocating for surrendering in one of a gorrilion differnet ways
what a fuck and screwed society we are, that such weakness is not only tolerated but even advocated for
never give up
never surrender
The champion... the legend...
He was so bitter and spiteful it would have sunk him even in many US states
That's not what this is. This seems more like drama for profit's sake and Jobst just being a narcissist.
Just remember anons, no matter how dire the situation seems, how much the pressure is, how it seems like nobody is on your side
NEVER SURRENDER
Why did he sell his house? did he upgrade or downgrade?
every headline cements his champion status
Good work Karl
This is more about having already lost and just being sore about it.
He sold it to pay his legal fees. He said it would be worth it because he was guaranteed to win.
DONKEY KONG CHAMPION VIDEO GAME LEGEND BILLY "KING OF KONG" MITCHELL DESTROYS ABSOLUTE NOBODY YOUTUBER
go from accusing someone of cheating to forcing people to commit suicide
Weird leap to make, sounds like he lost for a reason
Nearly Karl's entire defense hinged on "Billy has a reputation for cheating, therefore he is undefamable"
Being defamation-proof is usually reserved for the absolute worst of the worst in society, like mass murderers and extreme criminals
That's how delusional Karl was about this
lmfao
it's actually a cope because karl himself and his friends were at least partly responsible for that suicide
which makes this extra disgusting
you have to understand that to a speedrunner autist who has nothing in life outside of speedrunning, ye olde billy mitchell is practically the devil incarnate. to him, he IS the worst of society
its just that no one normal actually sees it that way
You got to be trolling right? I know he's stupid but would a real family values aryan man put his chinkwife and hapa kid future at risk over a lolsuit?
so are people misunderstanding this as Billy proved in court he didnt cheat?
Is "his" child really "his"?
Playing Donkey Kong on an emulator is the worst crime imaginable to speedrunners, the kind of people who only ever use real hardware and never use modified controllers or glitches and hacks to get a record!
cry more, little bitch
Yes because that's what karl was pushing for YEARS.
Motherfucker relegated the actual reason of the lawsuit to a footnote mention in a video like two years ago and never mentioned again since. It was all about Billy's records
A few but I think some people are reevaluating the case against Billy and thinking to just give him the W on the high scores
He's serious
Billy also offered to settle multiple times if karl just made an apology video and leaves him alone
Maybe he could just no lie about Mitchell causing some guy to kill himself in the first place, when he has no evidence of that? He's a retarded manchild.
Most people don't care one way or the other (surprise!). They just think the entire thing is funny.
Billy doesn't have to prove he didn't cheat. Others have to prove he did. And so far it's dubious.
Tell me more.
Nearly Karl's entire defense hinged on "Billy has a reputation for cheating, therefore he is undefamable"
This is incorrect; the legal defense was based on the idea that any damages Mitchell might have incurred were caused by his reputation as a cheater, not from something said in Jobst's video.
Some people already take for granted that Billy cheated and has a "reputation for cheating". I don't see that at all. This is like going after the Founding Fathers for owning slaves.
darkviper and ez were named by apollo as the last straw for an heroing
Albino australian with a chinese wife thinks he can defeat a REAL AMERICAN HERO
GET FUCKED JOBST
This is why I love this shit so much. It puts these terminally online retards in their place as reality just slams into them like a bullet train. Best part is, some will keep getting on those tracks hoping different results will occur.
So Jobst agrees Billy was defamed, just that Billy did it to himself? And you can't really defame yourself so Jobst was trying to say Billy was...undefamable?
That’s honestly true. No one even knew about the suicide claim until the trial ended
Billy is still a cheater
this desu, Karl Jobst went too far with milking the Billy Drama and now he's about to lose every cent he made
killed the speedrunning community
good
I don't think so. The whole malice standard probably could have been proven as Karl's a huge sperg.
Of course Billy Mitchell is a cheater!
If he wasn't, then he wouldn't have a reputation as a cheater!
Do people who think Billy cheated really?
not according to Australian law
Here's the full message. What else could "final push" even mean in this context?
KARL
WHERE IS THE VIDEO!!!
In order to claim damages, it must be proven how the offensive statement(s) caused the damage. Here it's worth pointing out that the specific instances Mitchell mentioned during the trial (such as his doctor's refusal to treat him) were the exact same damages he had previously claimed in his lawsuit against Twin Galaxies after they removed his records for cheating.
speedrunning was a cancer upon gaming
making a video calling someone out for bad behavior and the person who did something bad an heroing doesn't make the people who made the video responsible. Suing someone for a frivilous reason forcing them to settle in order to not go bankrupt and barely being able to make ends meet after and them an heroing after DOES make you responsible.
Karl Jobst ruined himself financially for the sanctity of the Donkey Kong high score leaderboard. What a hero
everything i learned about these faggots has been against my will
I can't believe speedtrannies are this delusional
video game legend
You could say... an absolute legend.
this case literally killed the speedrunning community
wtf
that's great
I actually feel bad for Notch.
He likely wasted at least 100K (if not more) funding Karl's dragon-slaying grift before he came to his senses and stopped.
Billy cheated so not a single tranny can taint that one game everyone knows by heart
holy fucking based
It only cost his career and soon his relationship and eventually his life.
You WILL about this autism and you WILL enjoy it
breh hahaha
considering apollo's family said billy had nothing to do with it and apollo said billy had nothing to do with it but named ezscape and darkviper as the final straw i think my reasoning is sound
i remember seeing couple of albino nigger's videos years ago and have come into conclusion that he's a spineless retard that would apologize to randoms on the internet for the most trivial things, he's a cuck
billy mitchell was never likeable for any reason
He has to prove that his record were achieved in a verifiable environment obviously. He could have fucked with the emulators to give himself an advantage. I believe it's equally likely that Billy didn't cheat but feels wronged by people trying to take away his record just because he played on an emulator. So he lies and litigates and feels right doing so.
apollo's family are shitheads for defending billy.
this case literally killed the speedrunning community
pretty sure they're killing themselves just fine without the case
notch is a retard for doing it in the first place. fucking help someone that deserves it if you want to throw money around. retarded fucking swede.
He can take the house, he can even take the wife but he'll never take our Dam :52 Jobsisters
I browse any gaming site and it's people making fun of speedrunners whenever you bring up this case
It's the silent majority having fun at the speedrunner's expense.
i see billy is controlling apollo's family, the australian court, america, and gulgamag lord of the 12th dimension all while having a hot sauce business
what a guy
Obviously Billy and/or his lawyers are stretching it but it's not wrong to say all of this - Twin Galaxies, Jobst, and whoever else - comes from the same place - Apollo's initial video. Twin Galaxies nor Jobst directly held a gun to Billy's physician - if true that his physician refused to treat him, it's not like the physician is gonna say, "Apollo Legend's video/Twin Galaxies/Karl Jobst caused me to not treat Billy Mitchell".
He's going to say, "I think Billy is a cheater, so I'm not gonna treat him" so even though it's a stretch, I think it's justifiable that Billy and/or his lawyers are trying to attack the concept of "Billy is a cheater" in whichever instance it manifests, whether that be Twin Galaxies or Jobst.
Hehehe. Karl is probably thinking this too
it's not a lie if you believe it.
Billy has repeatedly played to his records in public.
That's why part of the spergout from speedtrannies is how some of his exhibitions for scores shouldn't count because it was done on working machines that didn't have original interface hardware, like sticks and buttons, and that he allegedly bribed old Twin Galaxies to accept his scores.
It's over... We've got nothing left
you would be insane to get on Billy's bad side.
honestly thats why im a billy fan, due to sheer fear.
if you cared about apollo you'd actually be calling out the people truly responsible instead of letting the people screwing him over continue their rampage. fuck you.
I've actually been considering ordering some Rickys desu
you should call out the people truly responsible
we've already called out Karl and Karl's friends multiple times in this thread.
Every suicide is actionable then.
I wonder if Billy Mitchell purposely ran his lawyer fees as high as possible to dump them on Karl when he won
>But what the fuck was this all about in the first place?
This actually started with a previous Youtuber named Apollo Legend who got an autistic fit about Billy's record in Donkey Kong. The standards for proof of score records was way lower back in the day, you just needed a referee to verify it. Apollo spent ages sifting through mountains of data to prove that Billy did not play his record through on the hardware he claimed that he did.
in the end Billy said "Who cares, the Referee said I did so fuck you." and Apollo, having failed to take Billy's score down, got ousted from his friend community and roped.
Then comes Karl. Who seemingly has a grudge against Billy. Accusing Billy of causing Apollo to rope and for cheating his record. It turns out, cheating a record in Donkey Kong isn't actually a civil offense, and accusing someone of causing someone's death absolutely is. So the judge ruled against him. It wasn't helped by Apollo specifying in his suicide note that Karl's friends "gave him the push" to rope himself and didn't mention Billy at all. So now you're here, finding out that the Speedrunning community is full of narcissistic jackasses who backstab each other at every opportunity
This is what I'm certain the real reason he was ousted for is. Because the exact same thing is happening right now with Karl Jobst. If you look up discussion of this online (reddit or twitter), you'll find near every single post there is calling him a white supremacist and a nazi and how he's always been known as one and no one ever liked him. It's cultlike. What the fuck do these people really have against Billy lmao, he's about as innocuous as they come. Even if he was a huge cheater and never played a game in his life, what the hell does it matter?
interesting
Karl literally admitted in video and on discord that he was intentionally running up legal fees, and the judge was pretty pissed about that.
Happy for him. He won fair and square for once.
I initially found billy winning this case against the ricemixer funny until I realized the only reason why billy won was because this did not take place in an american court and karl said mean words in the People's Republic of Australia
I heard Billy speak for the first time today and he has a really cool sounding voice
What Karl did was so retarded he would have probably lost even in America
The irony is that Mitchell will claim that this ruling vindicates his gaming records, thus proving Jobst's point.
He's going to say, "I think Billy is a cheater, so I'm not gonna treat him"
Well, yeah, but that's the thing - if the doctor said *that* - and he did, according to the lawsuit against Twin Galaxies - then Mitchell can't claim it as damages and while suing Jobst for defaming him in connection with the death of Apollo Legend. Do you see the problem here?
well that backfired then didn it...
This is like saying the Founding Fathers need to be torn down today because they owned slaves. Billy isn't a cheater. Prove he is other than he "maybe, possibly could have".
the only reason I'm mad at Karl is he's likely actually going to pay Billy.
Australian courts are not an instant defamation win, retards. Look up the recent DCS case. Jobber even made a video on it that he took down due to timing with his own case.
According to Karl, Billy's fees were only about half of his own. Karl used really expensive lawyers because Notch (Minecraft billionaire) initially offered to pay for everything, but Notch's manager later halted payments when they saw how much money he was spending.
There's a certain difference between people.
In fact, there is quite a bit of evidence that Mitchell cheated - which is why he wisely avoided suing Jobst for saying that about him.
Imagine wasting your life caring about this shit when you can just play a good game once or twice and move on.
Idk why you retards have to use grandma's arguments against vydia to bitch about speedrunning, sounds casual af too.
but Notch's manager later halted payments when they saw how much money he was spending.
....and then Karl called Notch. Afterwards, Notch actually restarted payments and claimed "he didn't know his manager stopped payments".
(yes, Karl was so frightening that notch made up that lie)
MERICA!!!!!!!
FUCK YEAH
Common chud W
Yes, but again, I can see why Billy and/or his lawyers would try to include it anyway. They're not unrelated.
Its honestly very cool and pure sovl, imagine speedrunning a game that has so much history.
Karl charged like $2500 to send an email.
Like? Playing to standards that people back then accepted?
Kind of like the Founding Fathers?
Gotta let the white man get a win sometimes, and who better to WIN than the KING himself.
Karl gets a flat faced Viet with pancake tits
Billy banged Japanese QTs in his heyday and has a busty MILF wife
REMINDER THAT JOBST LITERALLY IGNORED THE ADVICE OF HIS LAWYERS BECAUSE HE ASKED CHAT GPT TO ANALYZE THE CASE FOR HIM AND IT SAID HE WAS IN THE RIGHT
You could've just... not clicked on the threads.
Brainlets should be banned from using AI for their own protection lmao
average aifag lol
Seethe all you want but Billy is a part of vidya history and considered the first villain of competitive video games
I can see why Billy and/or his lawyers would try to include it anyway.
That and the whole kitchen sink. The problem, again, is that there is not a single documented case where Mitchell has suffered any harm as a result of the claim that he was responsible for the death of Apollo Legend. You just have to trust him that it was because of *that* and not because of his cheating.
Playing on an emulator was never accepted.
In fact, there is quite a bit of evidence that Mitchell cheated
So then why do you niggers always run around with BUT MAYBE HE COULD HAVE when you could be running around with actual fucking evidence?
Christ, you cunts are like the guy going EY IF I HADDA BEEN THERE OH IF THAT WERE ME OOOH MADONE DOSE GUYS IS LUCKY THAT THE UNIVERSE WE LIVE IN IS ONE WHERE I WAS NOT THERE
OH ONE OF THESE DAYS I'LL MAKE A VIDEO ON BILLY MITCHELL, ONE OF THESE DAYS, THEN BANG, ZOOM, STRAIGHT TO THE EVIDENCE THAT PROVES HE'S CHEATING
Fuck off.
Billy won the lawsuite against apollo and was proven in court to not be a cheater. Using an arcade emulation of a program, without being aware of it, is not cheating. After watching multiple hour long videos about how and why billy cheated, the ONLY factual statements ANYONE has been able to make is that by MODERN RECORD KEEPING, Billy's score should be in a mame category instead of hardware category. Which is beyond autistic in and of itself, oh there was a 0.000172% chance billy got 3 extra frames over his entire run lmao.
KING OF KONG, SORRY TROONS
Got any reccs for good no death/hit runners?
there is not a single documented case where Mitchell has suffered any harm as a result of the claim that he was responsible for the death of Apollo Legend
Billy lost his auctioneer gig for classic arcade related items, he also lost over 15 paid con appearances in one year where he would get an average of 5k plus plane tickets and hotel fees.
Why lie like this when it was cited in the court record?
wow...
Karl walks up to you
says you are really cute
he turns around and walks away very quickly
what do?
Nope Carci is a little gaylord faggot
Can I sue Karl for the mental distress he caused me by slandering my hero?
yeah you can, youd probably lose just like he did but you can sue him
playing on an emulator was never accepted
Except it is, was, has been, and will continue to be. If you want to argue that his score belongs in the "emulated" category then that's valid (despite that being based on record keeping "rules" invented 25 years later by mentally ill people) but that's not what any of you fucks ever argue.
Billy having his record in the wrong category (arguable) is not equivalent to cheating you absolutely retarded speedtrooners.
April 14 is Australia day. Karl is going to have something big planned. Let him prepare and say what he needs to say. This is NOT over.
Nobody can job the Jobst.
Billy will kneel before 2025 is over.
Don't do it Karl, suicide won't prove anything
How did this Karl guy even become well known? I had never heard of in my life until this defamation lawsuit.
And that point is moot anyway when Billy has literally performed his records at exhibitions LIVE IN FRONT OF JUDGES AND AUDIENCES
That's why the speedtrannies cry about Billy using refurbished machines and different arcade sticks in some of their takedowns on Billy
If we're now talking about Apollo's suicide and whether Mitchell suffered harm because he was alleged to be in some way responsible for it -
Defamation per se
This refers to statements that are so inherently damaging to a person's reputation that harm is presumed, even without evidence of specific harm.
Apparently it was.
Sue him for defamation. I'm not cute at all.
KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG KING OF KONG
attacking and besmirching the king, it didn’t end very well for him
Did Billy cheat? Maybe, maybe not, who cares? Did Karl claim Billy made Apollo kill himself? Yes, and no follow up video pussy footing around the issue instead of editing that part out of the video will make up for that.
Seeing made me realize why he is such an idiot.
It's literally become a second Holohoax. Billy Mitchler is going after the troows.
Look, Billy can deny being the cause of 1 suicide sure. But 2? Nobody can get away with that.
Apollo and now Karl, both suicided after being sued into bankruptcy and destitution by the King of Lawsuits? Ain't no way
April 14 is Australia day. Karl is going to have something big planned
Karl pulls a Tarrant
Karl won
Billy is forever ridiculed
Exactly, he literally, with court evidence, recreated his efforts multiple times in the modern day to refute these claims, something Kike jobst had been hounding him to do. Funny how he ignored it entirely when he did. Karl at one point was going off about how he'd stop if Billy could just recreate his score, and when he did he just pretended the goal post never even existed. Pathetic.
Using an arcade emulation of a program, without being aware of it, is not cheating
Are you... are you seriously suggesting that he was using an emulator without realizing it? What the fuck?
Billy lost his auctioneer gig for classic arcade related items, he also lost over 15 paid con appearances in one year where he would get an average of 5k plus plane tickets and hotel fees.
Yes, he did lose all of that. But, was it because of his cheating, or because Jobst said that he contributed to the death of Apollo Legend? Again, see the problem here?
Except it is, was, has been, and will continue to be
In his sworn deposition, Mitchell himself claimed that he would have never submitted records achieved on any sort of non-genuine hardware.
…on opposite day.
pretending to be from an alternate gayer universe
kek
APPROACH HER NOW!!!
Yes, he did lose all of that. But, was it because of his cheating
He has two letters from cons canceling specifically citing Karl's original video claiming Billy drove Apollo to suicide.
Its in the court record anon. You have to stop coping.
cant wait for the video to drop. gonna be cringe kino
Lawsuit against Chat GPT incoming.
Believable.
When a vindictive mob like Karl's mob believes a lie, they spread massive amounts of ill will everywhere.
He has two letters from cons canceling specifically citing Karl's original video claiming Billy drove Apollo to suicide.
Post them.
Not him but do you need any more straw? I'll spell it out - Billy was not aware using an emulator counted as "non-genuine hardware". People took it at face value that they were just replications of the same game. You would now have to prove Billy dug into the emulation software to create some undue advantage for himself.
If he uses the absolute legend line, I think I'll kill myself desu
Karl went full cock retard
Didn't Billy make a video telling Karl to redact his comments about Billy's involvement with Apollo?
This really isn't some out-of-left-field reveal.
People are tired of Karl to such a degree they can just give Billy the win on the scores
This has to be a joke right? Like this isn't real. I fucking refuse to believe someone could be THIS retarded.
I'm pretty sure the judge cited these cancellation letters in the judgement anon.
Also Karl admitted they exist just before that on discord and used the excuse that the con organizer is Billy's friend or bribed.
Weird how whenever someone sides with Billy, its always because they are his friend or bribed.
I'll spell it out - Billy was not aware using an emulator counted as "non-genuine hardware".
You're taking the piss right now? Mitchell swears up and down that he did *not* use an emulator to achieve his records.
Are you... are you seriously suggesting he was using an emulator without realizing it? What the fuck?
Have you seen a mame machine from 1987 you fucking retard? You need to pull out the massive mother board and inspect that and cross refrence the color and build to tell if it's legit or not. It's frankly more accurate to refer to the machine billy used as an illegal repro than an emulation, something that was literally in 50% of arcade machines in the country at the time. The record was done, the impact the machine had to his score is negligible and requires 50 layers of "maybe" and "i feel like" explanations to even have an ounce of relevance to invalidating his scores, which again at BEST can be argued as putting his score into a different, equally valid category. Then he, several times, fully verified, recreated his score and went beyond on official, multi tested troon approved hardware and you STILL seethe and cope and grasp at straws. It's embarrassing, i'm half convinced you're Karl himself the way you're talking like a trooned out retard.
THE HONOURABLE JUDGE WHITEGOOSE PRESIDING
Had to sell his house just to pay off his debt
I think you need glasses.
He didn't
Goose has the last laugh now over speedtrannies.
Pretty sure Karl also helped cancel him.
just became about trying to give the game an aneurysm so it warps you to the credits.
That Crash Team Racing speedrun category comes to mind where you warp straight to credits
Based Billy fucking VINDICATED
Didn't kill Apollo
Never cheated
Greatest arcade gamer of all time
Hottest sauce
Most majestic hair
All American
A fucking HERO
Always has a plan
Dunked on the speedrunners
Greatest family restaurant
A family man
That quote kek
Jesus fucking christ who the fuck cares?? Why is this even a thing?
Need a hand with that goalpost? Billy Mitchell says he didn't cheat. Using an emulator is not automatically cheating.
is that from Goose's video about Karl posted today?
i have yet to watch it.
April 14 is Australia day
January 26 cunt.
Take notes everyone. This is what happens when you put video game autism and your ego above everything else in life. Nigga literally sold his house to pay for this lawsuit he was destined to lose. Dude is retarded
Why is this even a thing?
Gen-Xers with no lives, redditors and autistic speedrunners high on HRT refuse to stop being pissed about someone who got high scores in an arcade decades ago.
transphobia
ENOUGH.
I'm still not seeing anything.
What the hell are you talking about, MAME was released in 1997.
No, Billy Mitchell says that he used genuine hardware that was "verified" by Nintendo. He *specifically* says that he did not use an emulator.
being repulsed by weirdos who mutilate themselves and try to masquerade as the opposite sex isnt a 'phobia'
No blood left in the corpse for the trannies to steal so they went to go kill something else
Its time to just let Billy have his Ws and to stop seething
True. I think that's really interesting though actually. He's so calculating and pragmatic but even the mention of Liu Bei doing well can send him into a classist tantrum.
pay up Karl
Gen X
No, the autists raging about this are almost exclusively millennials. Gen X and boomers don't give a fuck.
No they shouldn't.
AI will be the eugenics we're denied from performing because it will give retards the confidence to smugly destroy themselves.
He already tried that by removing the cheating stuff and only going for the suicide accusations. Karl wanted to fight so Billy took him to the cleaners
A bunch of them are millennials now but the original people pissed at Billy after the doc were Gen-Xers and there are still a few around that run barely viewed blogs that do nothing but post about how bad Billy is.
He removed the cheating stuff because it's unwinnable.
Multiple shart posts about how billy emulated the game
MAME was released in 1997
Billy's record was done way before 1997
Done on physical hardware
replies to me multiple times screaming that billy used a mame emulator and cheated
is actually retarded
Karl stop posting, you need to go get a job to pay back Billy.
You also changed your argument from "BILLY USED LE EVIL EMULATOR" to "uhh he used non genuine hardware" so which is it, faggot?
It's less about autism and more about cultism. Karl Jobst was in a cult and he didn't even know it. You see, after the judge gave him a reality check and came clean about all the mistakes he'd made, the first thing he did was post on Twitter that the judge believed the great manipulative villain. Cultists isolate themselves from reality to such an extent that nothing else can penetrate the ideal that they and the other members have created.
I'm still not seeing anything.
the blind do not see.
Stop following your false prophet
Accept Billy into your life and be done with this foolishness
"Bro I know the australian court system literally has the letters as evidence but i didn't personally handle them so it's not real" please record you killing yourself and post it in reply, thank you
there is a particular youtube personality who was involved in this court case who has not made a video discussing it even though he is known for making shitty videos talking about every minor thing. interesting
You are hopelessly confused - it appears that you're not even aware that there are multiple different records, going all the way to 2010. Why are you even posting?
Troid detected
Stop trying to move the goalpost. Billy says he didn't cheat. What he may or may not have said regarding Nintendo OR emulators is irrelevant. You MIGHT be able to show he lied, but you still haven't shown he cheated.
The judge was not officially licensed by Nintendo
Someone needs to use all of this to really show how far up his own ass he was.
I always end up rewatching this video around Christmas time each year. I don't know why, it either pops up again in my feed, or I seek it out due to some unconscious tick.
Just the sheer disgust and dry anger he has as he goes off, doing the same level for probably what is the umpteenth time
It's amazing.
Trump won
Elon won
And now Billy won
I'm sorry, sisters, but the time for Acktion is at hand, farewell.
Billy says he didn't cheat. What he may or may not have said regarding Nintendo OR emulators is irrelevant.
It's actually tremendously relevant because it contradicts all the drivel about him not knowing that using emulator is against the rules.
Yeah really it’s such a fake competitive arena
They all need an intervention
something something speed running autisms and speed running
like literally who gives a fuck. the best part was when that one girl started crying about cancer on that one stream and everyone ignored her.
lol
lmao.
Chat is this true? I thought he fired Notch's lawyers because they told him to settle with Billy
Billy Mitchell played legitimate Donkey Kong and earned his scores.
Billy takes him to court for defamation and wins
He didn't win, they settled
Too bad all those videos and articles showing that he cheated are still up, and will remain up because Mitchell knows he'd get rekt in court if he tried to take them down.
Settled because Billy was going to complete fuck Apollo over if he didn't accept the settlement.
Karl had the same olive branch extended to him and was a complete retard for turning it down.
I once ran into Billy while shopping for groceries, he seemed like a dick when he told me to back off as I followed him to the parking lot.
Australia actually has better defamation laws than America these days, they used to be a joke but (apart from nt) uncucked them a couple of years ago
Stop trying to conflate the Apollo stuff and the DK stuff
If Billy had any actual evidence against the mame or splicing claims he would easily have huge settlements already against every else who called him out, his settlement with Apollo shows only exactly that they decided to settle and if it was for no money then clearly it wasn't a good case where both parties decided to say fuck it.
He only got Karl because he was the perfect storm of retarded and said the Apollo shit.
LOL
Lol
Billy played legitimate Donkey Kong and earned his scores.
The weird thing is that Billy Mitchel doesn't seem to be a trumpfag while Karl Jobst definitely is one. Yet Anon Babble backs the classical 2000's asshole liberal over the 2010's chudpilled guy?
Billy performed many of his scores in front of audiences and judges from Twin Galaxies and speedtrannies coped with excuses like:
"Billy became friends with everyone in the classic arcade recordkeeping scene, therefore they would lie for him" and "One of the machines Billy played on in front of Twin Galaxies judges didn't have the original sticks and buttons so it was rigged in his favor"
Speedtrannies will literally say these things.
If you're going to claim a massive conspiracy to fluff the ego of a hot sauce merchant, I'm going to need to see some actual fucking evidence.
speedrunners
Speedrunners belong in concentration camps and trees.
I browse any gaming site and it's people making fun of speedrunners whenever you bring up this case
I browse any site and these two faggots show up everywhere year after year.
Anon Babble is about the truth. I can support Trump and Billy as long as both are in the right.
This.
Personally I think it's more impressive to beat a game with limited amount of mistakes, or none at all. Although sometimes it can be pretty boring too if the player is just abusing broken shit, so they might need reasonable limtations to be entertaining.
Leftists literally do not understand not being part of an NPC hivemind and thinking on a case by case basis
cringekino
Jobber is Australian, he cant vote for Trump.
Billy doesn't like answering any political related questions and when pressed occasional he will just say he is an independent.
He's a fucking hot sauce merchant who just wants to sell his sauce and run his restaurants.
If retards are unhinged now about the accusations of "cheating", imagine how fucking bad it will get when you include politics.
I'm not surprised he stays away from it.
UHHHH OKAY UHHH HE USED MAME IN A LATER RUN THAT ISN'T HIS FAMOUS WORLD RECORD SCORE THAT'S IN THE GBWR
All of Billy's scores were approved by twin galaxies, and live ref'd. You have a problem with anyone, it's twin galaxies, but thanks for moving the goal posts a third time AND still not showing any proof he cheated that isn't "the vibes were off". Also the vid claiming his modern cabinet use has been mame are bs, to the point anyone covering it has revoked the claims it's mame and instead shit posts about the red joystick to claim it was a tampered cabinet.
However, the part about the judges being his friends (and lying for him) and the part about the joystick are demonstrably true. On the other hand, literally all available video evidence shows that Mitchell cheated.
man billy is truly mentally ill
Tranny bootlicker
Trump supporter
pick one and only one
Have you added him as a friend on Pornhub yet?
A refurbished machine that is used in an actual arcade doesn't mean the internals were rigged to produce a better score.
Being friendly with a referee or judge at a sporting even doesn't mean they will always decide in your favor.
This shit is fucking ridiculous, produce some evidence.
Karlfags will defend this
Because they hate gamers and want to tear down our heroes
He just wants to fucking grill
You have a problem with anyone, it's twin galaxies
Yes, the judges of Twin Galaxies have failed here, as confirmed by TG themselves.
still not showing any proof he cheated that isn't "the vibes were off"
There is extensive evidence out there proving that Mitchell used MAME. You are familiar with this evidence, correct?
A refurbished machine that is used in an actual arcade doesn't mean the internals were rigged to produce a better score.
You're missing the point here. The reason why the joystick is important is because Mitchell himself claimed that he would have never tried to achieve a record on a machine that does not use 100 % original hardware. I'm not saying the machine was rigged, I'm saying there was no legitimate attempt at all.
Being friendly with a referee or judge at a sporting even doesn't mean they will always decide in your favor.
The problem is that those "totally legitimate" records, supposedly verified by referees, were shown to be achieved on an emulator.
damn asians are hideous
you can't speak badly about his sponsors because he does it for his family
Thank God for Billy Mitchell taking this fraud down
you used a cabinet with a control stick not produced by nintendo, despite the only thing nintendo really producing was the mother board for the cabinet
Holy fuck Karl, kill yourself or get a job or SOMETHING that isn't posting absolute drivel on my vidya board you fucking faggot. You've slapped the goal posts even further down the line over a red joystick. If billy said "i'm using an aftermarket joystick because this 40 year old arcade cabinet had the original one (that wasn't even from nintendo) break" then you would accept his scores no question?
are you familiar with the videos these lying trannies made?
KEK. That's all I gotta say.
Yes, the judges of Twin Galaxies have failed here, as confirmed by TG themselves.
You mean the new owners who bought TG and got hounded to rescind all of Billy's records years and years later.
At this point you have to admit this is fucking nickpicking and also requires a conspiracy orchestrated by Billy to be true.
I know Billy is a hot sauce merchant but how could he of afford to bribe every single Twin Galaxies judge AND dozens of people who came out in the classic arcade scene in support of Billy and his record?
Part of it is the hairstyles
Late 2000s to early 2010s hairstyles for women in Japan were pretty fucking ugly, I was there and saw them in person
And you STILL haven't posted any evidence except "Bro Billy said he'd use official hardware but one of the backing screws wasn't official nintendo and they replaced the ancient 50 year old broken joystick the cabinet came with, about 10 years ago. What a FRAUD. He also said he would wear red socks but his socks were WHITE, HE'S A LIAR. Also watch this easily debunked video multiple fags and speed run trannies made for the real proof"
Rope yourself NOW.
Bro this guy's literally insane
Apollo legend only blamed dark viper because he had a hate boner for him over dumb GTA discord drama shit kek, I'm glad he ACK'd and hope Karl does eventually too.
He named his son Maximus Wong, there's no reason to think he cares about his family at all.
Apollo legend only blamed dark viper because he had a hate boner for him over dumb GTA discord drama shit kek
You guys bought billy's hot sauce right?
RICKEY'S Original World Famous Hot Sauce
Neither his wife nor his son took his last name
That's pretty sad
He also said he would wear red socks but his socks were WHITE, HE'S A LIAR.
They just make another category where you can't use this skip
Yep. Ordered mine on the 1st and got it yesterday.
If billy said "i'm using an aftermarket joystick because this 40 year old arcade cabinet had the original one (that wasn't even from nintendo) break" then you would accept his scores no question?
Mitchell said - "I would never submit a score achieved on non-genuine hardware" (including specifically the original 4-way joystick). But the arcade machine he supposedly used to achieve his record did not have original hardware. Therefore, Mitchell is lying. And we also know that the referees who were there to verify the score are also liars (because they previously "verified" MAME scores as real).
but how could he of afford to bribe every single Twin Galaxies judge
He didn't have to bribe anyone, it's the same small group of his friends who signed off on all his records.
He did that because he said he hates his father, that probably has something to do with his Billy Mitchell Derangement Syndrome he has going on.
DarkViperAU is a faggot.
America didn't lose the Vietnam war. They just pulled out all of their troops and the one thing they were trying to prevent from happening happened.
And its the same small group of speedrunners high on HRT who still to this day makes videos about Billy and write blogs about "just two more weeks and the hot sauce merchant finally gets justice"
His lawyers actually did perform extremely poorly. That being said, I think I understand their general strategy.
His lawyers surely knew Karl is a fucking idiot that loves making his own case worse, and they probably figured it was in their client’s best interest to simply end the case as soon as possible. The way to have this happen is to do essentially nothing. It’s ultimately Karl’s fault, because from what I understand he did hire from one of Australia’s most reputable firms. I found it bizarre their lack of engagement in the case but when you inspect it under the lends of “yeah but Karl just ruins all of their work” it makes sense. They probably figured it was better to lay low and end the case rather than continue to fight and in essence steal his money.
who still to this day makes videos about Billy and write blogs
And they can keep doing that, because no court will ever vindicate Mitchell's fake records.
He did it so he could give his son a dick joke name.