what are the strengths of each over the others?
any other arpg that deserves a mention?
What are the strengths of each over the others?
Kid Icarus Uprising is better.
So is there are reason that there is 40 threads today about PoEII and other ARPGS? Other than that butt ravaged faggot being angry at PoEII.
Current ones? No
But past ARPGs mog the shit out these
Diablo
Diablo 2
Torchlight
Nox
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 1/2
Champions of Norrath/Return to Arms
Titan Quest
What happened?
sorry, it's topical lately because of the poe2 update.
It's because the devs replied with a question that's caused a lot of discussion and controversy
How do you make a game with meaningful combat when everyone just wants to blast monsters
So now everyone is pouring in their 2 cents from 50 different angles and interpretations of the question as well as using past present and future other ARPGs to support or deny
Grim Yawn is not work mentioning at all. While the aesthetic is cool the combat is largely loading with with buffs and using 1 SOMETIMES 2 skills. Nonexistant endgame.
POE is meta slop. You basically have to download a third party program to boot up some convoluted build if you want to have any amount of fun after normal difficulty. It's also super bland and tedious (needing specific slots to use skills you want/need). 2 remedies some of this but ultimately the game got turned into roll slop and every enemy is hyper aggrsssive, has one shot potential, or has a gap close (some times 2 or 3 of these at once) meaning you spend most the game rolling around inbetween eeking out casts. 1 endgame is good. 2's endgame is pretty trash but they're aggrssively trying to fix to bc hemorrhaging players.
D4 pretty simple builds but the simplicity is kind of the cringe part and the power gap between meta and not is enormous so you will eventually wall harder than any other game. The combat is fun enough and the skills flashy but items aren't fun -- you just slap your legendary effects onto good items. End game is just farming minute gains and the .000005% of getting a decent unique. The way each diffuclty tier works you're always "resetting" each difficulty which feels bad. End game definitely the worst of the 4.
LE borrows the good stuff from POE and Grim Yawn. Overall not a hard game like D4 but it's not as slow as D4 and POE2. IMO it's the best game on the market right now but it also has a pretty meh end game.
Why don't devs make more Diablo1 clones?
lol Grim Dawn is better than all of these. Go fuck yourself faggot contrarian
Nonexistant endgame
The fuck are you talking about?
because d1's strengths are atmosphere and slow strategic movement, both of which are the antithesis of modern arpg design
here come the Crate shills
Modern audiences found it too slow
They even remade Diablo 1 and added running
I shit you not go look up "Hellfire"
Loading with buffs
Aren't buffs activated automatically?
Is D3 a good medium point?
what about no rest for the wicked
it really depends what you enjoy arpgs for, anon. Both d3 and d4 have been absolutely lambasted since their releases for absolutely valid reasons.
that's explicitly a soulslike though.
Where does Inquisitor Martyr Prophecy fit in?
I liked that game.
Zoomers. Not even once.
I thought d3 got slammed for it's online bullshit and worse RMAH
If those two get removed or ignored is the game itself a happy middle ground?
grim dawn,path of exile games,torchlight 1&2 are the only games worth playing (after ofcrs you have played diablo 2)
Yeah, I mean sustains.
I like D3 more than all of those personally but it doesn't really have much in the way of builds and the end game is basically just spamming greater rifts nonstop for your set and then slightly better rolls on that.
I guess at the end of the day it depends on what you want out of these games.
If you want something generally fun that you'll complete and drop go with D3 or LE.
If you want a decent story then D2 and maybe go D3 and then D4 (3 and 4's stories are way worse but as a continuation).
If you want build autism POE/POE2.
If you want to play a long grindy endgame POE
The story is fairly cringe but D3 gets a lot of unnecessary hate just because it's Blizz. Anyone who actively plays this genre agrees the expansion fixed everything and its primary flack was the RMAH and sketch balance/difficulties both which have been removed/fixed.
I think it's already been over 10 years. I should do a replay of Torchlight 2. The newer Torchlight have left such bad taste and impressions
the story, writing, and atmosphere are an affront to existence itself. Personally, I never had much fun playing the game either, but I'm not a hardcore arpg player so I feel less confident talking shit about that. I was much more there for the ambiance and the story, which was just... so bad
Grim Yawn
Not even worth the considering. It's just Titan Quest Tim Burton edition.
That's discouraging
Diablo 1 and 2 did story and atmosphere so well
To this day the quotes are memorable
The sanctity of the place has been fouled
YOU HAVE QUITE A TREASURE IN THAT THERE HORADRIC CUBE
YOU'RE TOO LATE AHAHAHA
that sounds cool, what’s the problem?
hotwaifu Asuna
I'm just gonna stick to that soldak guy's games.
Blizzard North had pure soul
Grim Yawn grim Yawn grim yawn
Seriously why do people keep repeating that? What does it do that's so bad that warrents its own specific shitpost name?
i say it lovingly
schizos
What does it do that's so bad
It doesn't do anything good. It's an absolutely boring game with a nothingburger story. "Yawn" is apt.
Because it does NOTHING right.
Itemization is just stacking +damage numbers
Conversion mechanics are retarded and are only there to let you actually use skills from different classes together because they're so poorly designed
Classes are boring and you're meant to use skills granted by items to fill holes thus feeling like there's no identity
Nonexistent endgame
Shit story
Dozens of expansions and DLC making it cost the most out of all these games
It's shit. By far the shittiest ARPG on the market right now.
yes, if you are a fan of any of that then you will be SORELY disappointed with how vapid d3 and d4 are
D4: You get 1 item and deal 6 billion damage
PoE2: You get all your items and deal no damage
Grim Dawn: You look like you were released in 2006
Last Epoch: You like, travel back in time and punch dinosaurs or something idk
Now do
You look like you were released in 2006
That's a negative?
just play Titan Quest, it is a better game anyway
bump
its funny
i like the game and still call it that