Cancelled retro studios game Harmony

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finally got the full build working. links and instructions soon.

thanks to the people who were willing to help me get this working.

total hoarder death

(ps any suggestions on video hosts? i made a burner yt acc but i imagine itll get struck down pretty soon. vid is uploading on archive but thatll take a long time.)

Blessed
Any updates on Lego Civ?

catbox.moe is good
also holy shit what were they thinking?

QRD?

it's insane how bad this looks, like a low budget jak and daxter clone made by cambodians

how do you go from tropical freeze which is arguably one of the best platformers of all time to this sludge?

I hate to say it, but I think Nintendo saved Retro for themselves by forcing them to work on Prime 4 instead. These aren't just placeholder assets, they have a consistent aesthetic despite being unfinished and the aesthetic is awful. It looks like a game made for the 00s shovelware audience, back when you could make licensed games about Bratz or Mary Kate and Ashley and have them sell.

This looks so fucking awful, and I mean that from a thematic/gameplay perspective. Who the fuck was this for, 5-12 year old girls? How much time and money was wasted developing a game for an audience that barely exists?

Apparently this was going to be revealed at E3 2015 but got pulled at the very last minute
No wonder that year wasn't good, they were banking on Harmony being the big heavy hitter

generic 3d scrimbloformer

yawn

I actually think it looked fairly interesting. This undoubtedly wouldn't have sold well but it also clearly wasn't finished.

This looks like shit stop trying to make it a thing.

I'm baffled by the tone too

it's insanely saccharine, like it's made for 5 year old girls uniquely, even the princess peach game from last year wasn't like that

Cool job OP!
I dunno how to feel about this game

nice

Yeah, Nintendo was right.

this game looks gay and for girls

Streamable is a good host

This game would have been fine as GameCube shovelware, but this doesn't look good for the 8th generation of consoles

They started this probably in 2014 and was long since cancelled by 2019
Nintendo was right, 5 years in and you can't make a Yooka Laylee knockoff like this work? Wonder what the issue was

it looks like a parody game some faggot would make on steam for making fun of ps2 era scrimblos

like the fucking thing at 9:50 looks hilariously awful

It's insane Retro has been allowed to fuck around for so long
11 years with no game out. Damn lucky Nintendo likes them, any other company would've been shut down after 3-4 years

DUUUUUUUUUUUU

DUUUU DUUUU DUUUU DUUUUUUUUUUUU

SHUT THE FUCK UP

It's SOUL

it's insanely saccharine, like it's made for 5 year old girls uniquely

Good way to put it. Which is really fucking weird considering Retro's prior output. Of course there's the Prime games but even then, look at all their other cancelled projects.

Raven Blade

an NFL game

an original shooter pre-Prime

All pretty clearly "Boys 12-17/Men 18-25" in demographic. This is such a starch departure that I'm surprised Nintendo gave them so many chances with it.

I think the game needs a slightly darker tone. By dark I mean fairy tale forest dark. I think if the game has emphasis on a new lighting engine for Switch 2 it can at least stand out. As for gameplay there needs to be better planning. I think the game can get away with an ability-based adventure game if the rides are suppose to be that. There's a void left behind by Zelda going open-air. This game might be able to fill the void.

That said Retro needs a tard wrangler who can organize chaotic game plans, carve the good mechanics, and cut the bad designs. Right now only higher ups at Nintendo can tard wrangle Retro. And that's a problem because Retro needs a tard wrangler at the company level that can make complete games.

Why is everyone hating on this? Looks fine for an early GameCube platformer. They all looked like this.

bayonetta origins unironically did everything this shit tried to do and did them well

Weren't they also making a mario wrestling game that also got canceled?

Retro needs Tanabe on the whip

That was Next Level aka the Punch-Out and LM3 devs IIRC

I think this kinda showcases if anything that Retro doesn't have the idea man there that helps them create new IPs
They can only do good shit on already established IPs like Metroid and DK

Any updates on Lego Civ?

this is what I'm interested in most from the leak too. I know ultimately it would have just been a shallow kiddie version of Civ, but honestly it could have been really charming. Lego historical figures, Lego wonders, Lego military units. imagine building the Lego Pyramids and then going on a pillaging spree as Lego Genghis Khan. would have been fun just for the novelty. I'm surprised there's hasn't been more buzz around it.

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debug menu mentions wii

game has wii UI buttons

this shit was in development for that fucking long

Let me guess, the director of this game was a woman

O-oh...

True. That said this game still might have potential if it has direction. The problem is there is no direction at Retro to create anything original on their own. They need a visionary planner and dandori master who can direct a game from start to finish. After Prime 4 they may as well make Prime 5 for Switch 2.

Oh fuck I thought this was an early 2014/2015 build
THIS was what they had after 3 years!??? What the fuck!?

yeah, the whole music element is baffling

there's nothing to it, it's just contextual interactions disguised as singing and there seems to be some sort of rythmic element to the combat but I have no idea how it works and it looks pointless anyway

honestly I don't understand how this even got greenlit, how did they even manage to convince nintendo that they had something here?

god, this game looks so shit I feel like any straight man working at retro from the prime days would have ran for the door. This is like seeing ID software or bungie making a barbie game

Too bad it sold like 12 copies, i liked origins so much. but i also think this game is very weird considering its from retro and not a shitty thq owned studio

I'm not sad this got cancelled.

saddest lost is the cunny

I don't understand how this even got greenlit

David wise music platformer is actually a good pitch since it's the best part of their donkey kong games. Either its all super placeholder or retro became very gay during the DK years

Neither am I. But the game is a curiosity nonetheless. I think with all cancelled games there are parts that can be salvaged for other games.

Nobody is. This looks like it was made for preschoolers. No surprise Nintendo cringed at the result.

Ehhhhh she doesn't even look that SEXO

DKCR3 died for this

I loved origins too

really great isometric zelda-like

Kameo clone with shitty Crash of the Titans combat

Never let these fuckers near Donkey Kong ever again

We could have gotten MP4 earlier if it wasn't for this shit

It's not very interesting, to be honest. I'm not surprised why Nintendo canceled it.

I can't even imagine how mad Nintendo must've been when they saw after 6 years they STILL hadn't put out their shitty little music game and said "fuck this, work on Prime 4 NOW!"

Tropical Freeze was great

retrostudios.com/games/

DKC

Metroid Prime

Mario Kart 7

Soooo they've never made an original IP. They made a shitty Metroid spinoff, a mid Mario Kart game, and a monkey IP I don't care about.

Why do people jerk them off so much?

Looks like a Wii game that got remastered for Switch

Now I want to see Namco-Bandai's scrapped Metroid Prime 4.

they make Tropical Freeze

Was good

They make a new IP

Waste millions and over half a decade on it before getting canned

they go back to making Nintendo stuff

looks good

Oh yeah Retro is never being allowed to do their own IP ever again

They have a long history of pitching gritty games for the Western audience, only to have Nintendo go "wtf, no", even though they bought them to produce games to capture the attention of Americans in the first place.
Who knows what they were thinking with this game. Probably attempting to pander to those 2010's people bitching about no female lead Zelda game, since a lot of people got baited into thinking they represented a real audience for a while.
It's really kind of ridiculous how poorly handled Retro have been since the beginning. In theory, it should be the easiest thing in the world to crank out some big dumb America games with guns and swords and stuff. Why has this proved to be such an ordeal for everyone involved?

If it was a smaller team making some random shit while the rest worked on actual games like another DK or MP4 I wouldn't care. But as far as we know, this is literally what they were making before they got put on MP4 duty.

tropical freeze was much better than the snes games, dilate raresperg

Could we get a download of this build?

I hope that gets leaked someday
Seriously how BAD was it that after 2 years Nintendo disliked it so much they got the whole STUDIO shut down

Fucking this
This looks like some wix club shit

Considering nips don’t even like FPS or have even made a popular one it must have been very bad

Well I imagine it would be polished heavily before release.

Also, Nintendo financing your projects can make you do anything so long as you have the talent.

it should be the easiest thing in the world to crank out some big dumb America games with guns and swords and stuff

nintendo don't want to produce generic muttmerican slop, it's not that hard to understand

Leafs win once again

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looks like shit lol

Fake soul ass game. No wonder it got canned. Who the hell thought the game always going "do... do do do... do do" wouldn't get annoying really fast?

I think "shaman forest shit" might be my least favorite genre.

So why did they buy retro *specifically* to capture the American audience?

oh no, we meant do it while making games that are tonally indistinguishable from Mario

That doesn't make any sense. They already got Mario games. They got them for days.

Good stuff

Strikers

Strikers Charged

Punch Out

Luigi's Mansion 3

Mid stuff

Dark Moon

Federation Force

Strikers Battle League

Ehhhh I guess

Wait, is THIS the secret new IP project we heard Retro was making for like almost a decade? What the fuck, this looks like pig shit, how did Nintendo greenlight this?

How many women does Retro have? Because if the entire team that made this were made up of grown ass men, I'd cringe hard

who the FUCK said this was a "music-themed RPG" prior to any footage leaking of it?

So why did they buy retro *specifically* to capture the American audience?

they changed their minds, if that's even true and not just your tulpa telling you that

You now remember the cool ass rumor of Retro making shit like a Star-Fox/F Zero racer and realize that no, they really wasted a decade on this shit

Best thread on Anon Babble rn. Thanks OP, this is a cool find.

Nintendo was desperate for a new groundbreaking IP, it was the Wii U era after all

There's been a bunch of leaks over the years from prob inside sources but recent one is that Did you Know Gaming channel where I guess some retro employees DMd him

It must have been fundamentally flawed to the core for it to be completely unsalvageable.

About that
eurogamer.net/retro-studios-once-canned-a-portal-esque-game-because-nintendo-didnt-get-it

Adept was a first-person puzzle game similar to Valve's Portal, except the player could utilise cylinders rather than portals. These cylinders had varying properties, like teleportation, force push, or different elements. Rather than just two portals, players could fire as many cylinders as they liked, which would add to the game's combat as well as puzzle solving.

The prototype was made single handedly by Metroid Prime 2 and 3 programmer Paul Tozour. However, when footage was shown to Kensuke Tanabe, Metroid Prime series producer at Nintendo, he wasn't keen, which Tozour put down to unfamiliarity with Portal.

"Nintendo Japan is very insular, and there is very much a 'not invented here' syndrome," said Tozour. He even offered Tanabe a copy of Portal for research purposes in preparation for his pitch, but was told it was company policy to not accept gifts.

the idea sounded stupid but in retrospect it'd have been infinitely better than this sludge

He even offered Tanabe a copy of Portal for research purposes in preparation for his pitch, but was told it was company policy to not accept gifts.

This fucking company man

This just screams proof of concept. It clearly went nowhere. Its an interesting find though.

Federation force and battle league gameplay are decent tho

MSBL was neutered by Nintendo's retarded drip-feed schedule for Mario sports games. Really their only real stinker was Federation Force and it would be even funnier if they only got put on it because Retro was busy making Forest Cunny: Music Adventures.

Grand Prix was always fake as shit but at least it exposed a lot of the """"insiders"""" as retards.

This kinda looks like a post 2002 Rareware game

Probably attempting to pander to those 2010's people bitching about no female lead Zelda game

That actually sounds pretty plausible given they're a western studio.

Even when retro was pitching its initial idea for an original IP before prime it was all kind of retarded, then nintendo just asked them to make a metroid game

Would.

the squirrel

Why is everyone being so hard on it? It's clearly a proof of concep-

2017

They spent 3 years on THIS

Oh fuck me

I doubt the nintendo guys weren't familiar with portal, I remember miyamoto praising it

it's probably the complete opposite in fact: they thought it was too similar to portal, they always try to do games that don't look and play like what the competition does

It's a well known factoid. They were losing the American market in the GC era, and experimented with things like Eternal Darkness, to try to bring them back.
Retro initially had a bunch of games that were pretty much versions of popular Western games like Twisted Metal and Tomb Raider, and some gritty sword and sorcery thing, and they all got cancelled, or retooled into Metroid.

Kinda pisses me off that they wasted all that time just not making more DK. I get wanting to stretch their wings and want to make something original, but the fact they let something this generic looking continue to be developed for as long as it was is very retarded.

star fox/f-zero racer is lame as fuck

Why the hell does Retro think they need to copy other companies' IPs to create a new one? Nintendo is in the right here

he wasn't keen, which Tozour put down to unfamiliarity with Portal

Or because your pitch was garbage, like the rest of Retro's original ideas.

Looks like a knockoff Kameo of all things.

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Maybe now but how many Japanese do you think played western games on pc 15 years ago?

Retro initially had a bunch of games that were pretty much versions of popular Western games

yeah and they were total garbage and nintendo had to tard wrangle them so that they could release metroid prime

so here's your answer: when left to their own devices making "dumb american games" retro shit the bed and they are only worth anything when nintendo whips their asses into shape and forces them to make games from their legacy IPs

lol

Honestly, I would be embarrassed if I was a developer taking money from Nintendo for three years and showing them this as the end result.

Retro can't get SHIT done unless nintendo is there breathing down their necks, tale as old as time. Nothing has changed.

From a leaker back in January

Also in regards to the project they were on between DKCTF and Metroid Prime Remastered, it was some type of Music RPG game where the main mechanic was singing, it was a huge disaster and after years of it going nowhere, Nintendo cancelled the project and put Retro on remastering the FULL Metroid Prime Trilogy, this was also to help Retro develop the production pipeline to be able to outsource for assistance in the future (since all their games were all internally made, you also see a lot of external studios help on Prime 1 Remastered). When everything fell through with Bandai Namco's work on Prime 4 it was given back to Retro, they patched things up with Tanabe after their fallout and they could only finish a remaster of the first Prime as all resources had to be moved to Prime 4. Unsure what the story is now with Prime 2 & 3 Remastered.

Interesting, this makes it seem like the project was already cancelled before and that they were working on remastering the trilogy already before Nintendo put them on Prime 4

Remember when Retro concepted a cool Zelda game, and it got cancelled because the gameplay was one button mashy garbage.

The year is 2016

After years of anticipation Nintendo finally reveals Retro's new game they've been working on since Tropical Freeze

It's Harmony

Stop and think just how badly the reactions would have been
Usually when people say they want Retro to finally do their own IP, I honestly think they'd lean more Raven Blade (even though that game was a mess) and less.....Winx Club.
Just picture the backlash there would've been had people found out the studio wasn't working on Metroid and instead on a game that looks like something you'd find in the girl's aisle at Toys R Us.
In a sense the reactions in this thread kind of validate the changes done to Kameo
And why Panel De Pon's localizations remove Lip every time but there's more nuance to why people argue against that in retrospect

Looks like the kind of Western C-tier gamecube game that would have flopped cuz it was boring and would today fetch a $600 price tag like Gotcha Force.

There's no reason to assume they were total garbage. We know the Twisted Metal game was cancelled because Nintendo apparently didn't understand the concept. Communications between Retro and Nintendo have apparently just always been terrible, and this has just never been addressed.

your shit bong studio is dead and buried, enjoy your bootleg botw that'll never get released

looks decent

Yeah they focused so much on the concept art they neglected a core gameplay loop.

? dkctf was dull and predictable.

Also, Car Combat as a genre was quickly dying because everyone realized that Twisted Metal was the only game to actually do it right.

There's no reason to assume they were total garbage.

lmao

Here's a timeline where the Harmony shit never happens

Hot off the heels of TF, they decide to go right into a third DK game and release DKC3 in 2017 as a Switch first year game

Nintendo, telling them how they plan to revive Metroid, asks if they want to do Prime 4 and they say yes, Prime 4 is finished and out by 2021 at the latest

Retro said they always wanted to do a Zelda game and Nintendo lets them make their own Zelda spinoff title and it's kino

Could've gotten all that good shit if the CEO just said "fuck no" to the Harmony pitch...

yea man fuck creativity and new ideas give me endless rehashed slop please!

People were already mad at them for doing DK a second time in 2013
The backlash in 2016 especially for the flop of a console with the Wii-U? Would've been legendary

I don't think this one even got the greenlight

It probably would have looked less gay and more like kameo. Im sure some people would have been into it.

Actually kinda hilarious knowing the reason why DK was left on ice for an entire console gen was because of Harmony.

I'm torn
On one hand, yeah Harmony was a colossal waste of time
On the other hand, I still want Retro to forge their own identity outside of being handed Nintendo's established IPs

Fuck creativity and new ideas

Very fucking clearly YES given that OP and this Thread have shown what the fuck garbage shit they do when they become "creative with new ideas"

Trying to push for creativity and new ideas is how Retro got into this slump in the first place.

Retro's original ideas consistently go nowhere. When they are given a specific task and focus they excel. But don't pretend they are a font of originality.

It's a great question. Retro seems like such a weird experiment from Nintendo.

make a studio promised to make "mature" games for Nintendo

pitch Mature games for Nintendo's Gamecube

"No."

"No."

"Maybe. Wait, actually no."

"No. HOWEVER..."

make a knockout Metroid game from the bones of that last pitch

literal industry-wide acclaim

make a couple more for good measure

Daddy Nintendo walks back into the scene

"Hey boys, ever heard of a little game called Donkey Kong Country?"

make a game that people generally are negative on (it's alright, it's just not Rare which is what people wanted)

"Hey boys, ever heard of a little game called Mario Kart? We'll allow you to work on the new one with our favorite son, EAD."

work on it, it's fine

get back and do another DKC, this time it's widely praised as on par with (or even better than) the Rare games

Dad walks in

"Okay, I know we've told you "No." a LOT over the years. So here you go, we'll take back Uncle Tanabe and you guys can make your own game this time, we promise. Good luck."

make this shit

it has no direction

clearly outside their wheelhouse

Nintendo remains hands off until it's clear development is FUBAR

slap an IP on it and hope it works like Star Fox (it doesn't) and then just cancel it

"Hey boys, shame about that game. Just didn't work out, huh? Uncle Tanabe's back, how about you just remaster the Prime games to get back into the swing of things?"

after Prime 1 gets finished get pulled into Prime 4 because KT are just as big fuck ups as you are apparently

I have to wonder if they were given true freedom post-Tropical Freeze and willingly threw out this weird kiddy game or if they just assumed any mature pitch would get shot down again. This was Wii U era, so I'd have to assume Nintendo wasn't picky about their games so long as they could get some system sellers. What a weird time to overcorrect.

and more like kameo.

Before or after the changes Kameo went through like saying the fairies are elves despite being blatantly fairies?

That really depends on if Retro was still interested in making more Donkey Kong Country period

Did you not see the video in the OP?
Or how they wasted 5 years on that shit

You never played them. They were never finished, and didn't come out.
Raven Blade literally was not a game at any point. It was a concept and some animations they made for a teaser.
I don't understand what you think you're being smug about.

We'll allow you to work on the new one with our favorite son, EAD."

EAD isn't a studio Nintendo owns, EAD (well EPD now) IS Nintendo

I said it before but Retro doesn't have their Miyamoto or Cliffy B. or Todd Howard.
They need an idea man who can wrangle in their concepts and form it into something coherent. A musical harmony game like this should not have had them sitting at their desks like idiots for so many years.

If Harmony is the extent of their creativity and new ideas they need to be banished to the existing ip mines.

Retro clearly works best when they are given an assignment. Like give them a choice of Nintendo IPS to work on and keep them focused and they can work magic.

Retro is a western developer who thought it was a good idea to hire a tranny writer during peak woke, these are all signals for terminal brain drain. I'm surprised they even managed to make prime 4 and weren't shut down.

A good artist knows when some ideas just aren't good and learn from that. Had Retro learned early on to shelve the idea to do Nintendo's shit and spitball more ideas they would have probably came up with something better.

Reminder after doing DK Rare went on to do an absolute killing with dozens of New IPs
Meanwhile Retro wasted their time with a context sensitive singing game

I've made comparisons between Retro and Rare in the past and yeah, that's one of the big differences between the two
Rare (at least up until the Kinect days and even then you still have Gregg Mayles) had prominent figures within the company that could have their own team doing their own things
Retro's a mess of consistent turnovers

Crash of the Titans but for girls

Honestly Next Level games is what Retro should have been.

Retro Studios has around 200 employees
So after 2-3 years of going nowhere they seriously didn't go "Alright, let's make a small team of 15 guys to continue working on Harmony for a little bit to see if it goes anywhere. The rest of you we're moving on!"

some people think they want creative freedom but when they get it they cant handle it. The stories of early retro make it seem like their creative leadership didn't have a clue what it was doing and these kind of high level issues dont really change

Game development has changed a lot since then.
Rare's renaissance was at the perfect time where they could take advantage of new technology, make multiple games, and release said games in a rapid fire rate.
When Prime 4 finally comes out, we're gonna be left wondering what the fuck is Retro's future?
People have VERY different ideas on what the fuck Retro should even be making and we're not even sure if they have enough manpower/focus to handle multiple projects to satisfy those demands

A Mario spin-off studio?

This, some people just have shit ideas. Just look at grezzo and ever oasis. You think nintendo will ever let them do their own thing after that shitshow?

Honestly the best thing for the time being is Nintendo assigning them projects. "You're working on a new Donkey Kong Country game" "Team B start working on concepts for Metroid Prime 5."

What if Retro gets a Rareware director?

jesus christ thats a lot to read. anyway. idk if the game running like ass is because of my crappy setup, or the game being unfinished, the emulator not being optimised etc. the test room build runs fine so idk.

the patched game and patched emulator are uploading. gofiles says another 50 minutes.

i think other people have shown the game running better on emu. idk if they have other patches or fixes. the few people who have gotten it running dont seem very intent on sharing how. just a few clips and screenshots.

my goal is to get it into your hands asap. which looks like 50 mins from now.

the game is fun, theres more than what i recorded but a lot of it isnt finished. its hard to say how "far" it is. but theres at least that first polished demo level.

the singing mechanic is kinda cool, and i like how the overworld adds music tracks as you sing to objects laying around. also i was in the snowy mountain and did a perfect guard????? or some sort of counter. only managed to do it once.

anyway. hold tight.

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I never understood the anger about tropical freeze, it was a great game
I would completely understand if tropical freeze sucked ass, then I would be in that crowd saying it should have been metroid

Rare had fuck you money from Nintendo and a bunch of smartass brits always trying to one-up each other's teams to work on whatever the fuck they wanted with little to no involvement from Nintendo.
Retro always had Nintendo breathing down their neck and was literally founded by some retard using the company network to host shitty ameteur porn until Nintendo paid him to fuck off.

In an ideal world, we'd have at bare minimum two teams
One team handles Metroid, the other handles Donkey Kong but both are able to do new stuff that can still appeal to those types of crowds to not only give variety but also counter franchise fatigue.
Pipe dream would be a smaller third team doing more experimental, lower budgeted stuff i.e. a game like Harmony
What I'm trying to say is, Retro should've been an American EPD

That's really cool of you OP, thanks for giving us this piece of history!

The fact nobody else pointed that out really says a lot about how that game sold.

Never trust Western Studios to make good decisions. People always blame higher-ups in the western studios for games being shit when it is most certainly both the devs and higher-ups that make bad games. You either need a great team or a tard wrangler and say what you will about Nintendo, but they, for the most part, are very good at tard wrangling.

TF felt too soon after DKCR and Nintendo kept advertising it at the worst times.

he also directed that one shitty porn game :^D

some retard using the company network to host shitty ameteur porn until Nintendo paid him to fuck off.

Holy shit I forgot all about that
When you remember that yeah it puts everything into perspective

Anon I don't think Donkey Kong fans would've been receptive to it either (but still better than Metroid fans, those years were the dark age)
Kameo has its fans but it's still a post-Microsoft Rare game and even then it's not even Rare's most beloved post-Microsoft IP (that'd be Viva Pinata).
If Donkey Kong fans would've wanted a new IP from Retro it'd preferably be another "scrimblo" game with an animal protagonist like a spiritual successor to Banjo-Kazooie.

This reminds me. Is NST still in the proverbial dog house due to the Project Hammer debacle?

I get kameo/starfox adventures/pinata vibes from this, and that's not good
nintendo should have canned it in the concept art stage, it's just not appealing and looks like shovelware

but they, for the most part, are very good at tard wrangling.

Project HAMMER was....honestly probably gonna be mediocre but the way it was handled honestly makes Nintendo look like they were in the wrong when they outright dismissed NST's own opinions on their own game (that they themselves knew weren't working out)

how do you go from tropical freeze which is arguably one of the best platformers of all time

It's not even a top 500 platformer, holy hell wii kids are dumb

No
They've gotten better
The Mario vs Donkey Kong remake has actual animated HD cutscenes which a decade ago would've never happened at NST
It might be too soon to tell if they're 100% out of the cuckshed but they've been hiring a lot lately even if they're still smaller than Retro and NLG

I genuinely do think that Retro flaws and all would be a good fit for Star Fox.

No they just get cucked to smaller titles like Mario Vs DK or F-Zero 99

tranime

opinion discarded

wii kids

lmao this nigger is 40 year old

also the main character's name is fon.

Go play more shit for little girls while crying about "tranime" poseur

No shit, Armada sounded like it could've been solid
It's just that within this point in time, Retro was likely tired of being the "Nintendo's used goods studio" and forge their own path instead of only doing IPs because people just want them to like say the dozen people who want them to reboot StarTropics
Compare them to MonolithSoft whom Nintendo also owns (granted it was only recently they bought the remaining 2 percent).
If Rare did nothing but make games based on Nintendo IP, they wouldn't be the Rare people love.

Go play more shit for little girls

? are you having a stroke?

Wait.......what was the Wii U gamepad gimmick for this?

Strong studio makes bad game. Bad game gets cancelled. Cancelled game gets internet'd

That cutscenes really makes it feel like this would've been a game Rare made back in 2010 or something
I dunno how to feel about it

they wouldn't be the Rare people love

no one loves rare except a bunch of gigantic autists who can't shut the fuck up about them because they can't let go of their childhood from 30 years ago, they're the most washed studio in existence

Same as every other 1st Party Wii-U game post 2013
Map and Inventory kek

Blow into the mic to lift her skirt up like the Rayman Origins fairies.

Tropical Freeze is literally for literal 5 year old girls with poor motor control. What's so hard to understand here?

Wonder how much of the game is in these builds, seems to be a hell of a lot more than I thought

What are your top10 platformers?

Honestly bad game or not its a fascinating piece.

Yeah this looks a lot better here
Not "Oh wow them not doing Metroid Prime 4 was worth it" good or "This gonna be fucking amazing" good but still better

Did we ever get what was the character hidden in the Retro Studio picture that was given to Reggie at his departure?
Otherwise, this looks like absolute slop, I know, I know, it's clearly extremely unfinished, but this feels like a clumsy 6th gen attempt at a platformer made by a nobody company

you have never played the game and if you did you probably got filtered lmao

why is this unfinished unreleased game bad???

Corporate conformist cocksuckers, the typical Anon Babbleintendo experience.

also heres the 4th monster summon guy. hes a sand fish. i think hes for the desert levels that i cant get to. he cant be summoned on anything but "sand" which explains why he isnt selectable in the zelda 1 demo from yesterday

Astro Bot™ of course!

Cool shit OP, based, fuck hoarders too.

suggestions

Not an expert, but IIRC PeerTube & IPFS / EthSwarm are balls-hard to take down. Floated using them as a small-scope CDN a while back, but I just didn't have the time to set the latter up, and wanted to stay anonymous over the former.

Kameo 2

They really are just the second coming of Rare, huh? Well, fine by me. Shame it got axed, it looks cute.

And the remaining nine?

dkctf isn't hard, the game is made for you.

Oh lord imagine being the poor sap at marketing being told to sell this

Astro Bot™!

It's probably not gonna happen until the 2030's at earliest, but I hope I'll see the other half of this story; what the fuck went so wrong with Bamco's Prime 4 for Nintendo to hand it over to Retro

yeah definitely got filtered lmao

Please let these fuckers have Donkey Kong.

Next Level is very mid.

GOATED stuff frfr

Strikers Charged

Punch-Out Wii

Mid stuff

Strikers

Luigi's Mansion 3

[power gap]

Steaming pile of shit stuff

Luigi's Mansion 2

Federation Force

Strikers Battle League

Blast Ball

because KT

It's bandai namco Singapore

They really are just the second coming of Rare, huh?

No not really for a myriad of reasons
Repostan
Shortly before the big hiatus from Retro, people were saying they were Nintendo's new Rare
Not just for the obvious reasons (inheriting Donkey Kong Country) but also because they were the new big western developer for Nintendo catering to western audiences.
But as much as I love Retro, they could never be the new Rare
They could try to be the new Rare but that would require them having their own identity and culture with their own IPs made from the ground-up but the big thing holding that back is also what holds back Rare from their renaissance ever shining again.
Game development is much more complicated and expensive these days
Rare's peak happened at the perfect time where they could be masters of new technological innovations and still make games on a rapid fire pace (even if not all those games would be equally successful)
Retro doesn't have that luxury and looking at the reactions to Harmony I see them as a studio torn apart by different camps for what they want Retro to even make.
Do they make more games like Metroid Prime, more games like Donkey Kong Country, do they bother making original games or are they better off just inheriting dormant Nintendo IP?
There's also the problem with how Retro had prominent figures remain in the studio for far longer while Retro's history is much worse with people leaving.
It's the same thing that partially prevents them from being a western EPD

Fits right in to gamecube era titles.
youtube.com/watch?v=0WPteMFkI2k

Nintendo fans on Anon Babble have the cleverness of a pool noodle.

retro can't even finish a single good game on their own

all the ex-retro devs that worked on Prime went on to make garbage like Recore and Halo 4

They need to be kept under Nintendo's thumb.

The character hidden in the picture was an OC someone drew of "The Regginator"
Dunno why Reggie hid it in the pic

They got the Singapore devs on it

Retro from conception is a studio that needs to be tard wrangled. This is a repeat of when they first started. They were split off making multiple dead end projects while the boss fucked off misappropriating company funds. The only promising one was a first person shooter that Miyamoto forced them into making into Metroid. Somehow them going loose always goes back to being tard wrangled into a Metroid project.

British Cunny

Sex sex sex sex sex sex sex

I always found Retro's original IP ideas to be interesting, yet I also get why none of them panned out.

Oh, really? It looked like a robot thing I recall and thought it was hidden because it was a character from a yet to be seen game
Oh well

it seems like this obviously had potential to be a decent childrens game. im not seeing where the game looks like unplayable dogshit to the rest of you. it's competent. if it was given the chance to be finished it would've been a solid 8 out of 10.

im not seeing where the game looks like unplayable dogshit to the rest of you

It's the nintendo bootlickers saying this.

Is Fon gonna get the Modifyers treatment?

Again, give them a project assignment and focus and they can work wonders.

How did these even leak? Can't find a source

Because the designs sucks and it looks like a crappy western cartoon that airs in the middle of the afternoon for toddlers
I don't usually whine about "muh Nintendo kiddy" but jesus fucking christ this looks worse than the babby Yoshi games

If my dad walked in on me playing this he would've beaten the shit out of me.

anon, this is beyond B team crap, this is some C team shit from even its raw concept
this looks like disney princess mobil game that they couldnt get the rights to. it plays like shovelware.

OH MY GOOMBA ITS THE SAND LEVEL

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Clearly Nintendo is still strict about what they release under their name.
Except that wheelchair game that slipped through the cracks lmao

Harmony is the reason why DK/MP4 both were iced for years. So people are bitter.

someone obtained a switch devkit

no one said anything about being "unplayable", it just looks completely uninspired, boring, creatively bankrupt and esthetically and tonally off

This lack of curiosity is pathetic.

My money is on they tried to adopt the Nintendo (more Miyamoto) philosophy of clone games are bad. They probably were trying to avoid another prime 2 or 3 but just couldn't get anything to stick or their ideas were too radical. Eventually Nintendo just gave up and handed off to Retro to pump out another Prime game just to get something out there.

It's competent, but not Nintendo competent. Without any context, your first judgement of it would probably be average middleware, not the shiny new IP of the people behind Metroid Prime and nuDKC.

it was an old switch 1 dev kit, according to arlo

That's not how it went. They were forced into making Metroid because the company was a disaster. The boss blew company funds on luxury cars and pool parties with hookers. He never showed up to work and the employees were left making directionless trash projects. Miyamoto when inspecting them was horrified and Nintendo forced the boss to sell them the company and assigned Tanabe to tard wrangle them. It's the only reason Nintendo even owned it 100%. Nintendo also hates the company because the employees keep jumping ship because that's what Americans do.

Ah

Seems like a cute little kiddie game that would've been a fine side project they spend 2 years on
But instead it was their main thing for four years and that's got some people miffed

Have any of Retro's original ideas panned out at all?

not Nintendo competent

It looks perfectly in-line with their games. It's also obviously unfinished.

if i had absolutely no idea any context about the game i would've assumed it was made by rare, who, all things considered, is the studio closest to nintendo-esque outside of nintendo.

I instantly thought of this video while watching this leak, what an embarrassing game
youtube.com/watch?v=R3Qhw29LEcI

It's a kids game; it'd be silent for discussion forums but for parents who got a console + Mario for big brother, this would cover it's costs and more for little sister, like how Nintendog𐑈 sold gangbusters because it knew it's target and nailed it. Basically Niᥒteᥒd𐐬 Bugsnax / Rayman with a clear demographic target at young girls, and back when they gave a shit about aiming at both instead of making all their IP's into "cross-appeal" bitches with the diversitymoney (see when Koji Kondo basically bitchslapped the guy who did the Mario Galaxy soundtrack for making it too baby on the first draft, told him to man the fuck up and make it an orchestral symphony for young boys, or when Iwata pissed off investors constantly by talking about the direction of their games and the health of their demographics instead of soley dedicated to increasing profit margins).

It's a repeated by ex-Retro employees that they have zero nostalgia, zero fondness for their cancelled works
Those games weren't their unborn children wrongly robbed from the world, those projects are abortions and miscarriages to them with severe genetic defects.
As much as I want to joke this game was gonna be a marketing nightmare, Occam's Razor suggest that it simply wasn't working
I'm not celebrating it being cancelled but I get why it was.
t. I liked Kameo so I have every right to be miffed this got scrapped

NoJ: hey this game looks like it's gonna be shit, we should take a different direction with it

NoA: WOW YOU FUCKING RACIST NATIONALISTS YOU ONLY WANT ANIME GARBAGE FUCK YOU

The story behind Project HAMMER is insane. How did they think "smash Wii Remote like hammer" could carry a game?

I never said it was shit. I said it was generic, which may as well be worse. If it was shit, then at least there would be something to laugh at. The fact it looks painfully generic means just no one would care if it actually released.

it plays like shovelware.

The guy who's playing it right now likes it

No
Car combat game?
Shiggy didn't get it
Football game?
Became pointless
Raven Blade?
Hahahaha FUCK NO

is there a particular interview you're thinking of when making that statement about ex-retro employees? i'd like to listen to it. i believe the project was ultimately a failure, but i don't think the concept/idea was terrible from the jump. it was salvageable under the right direction.

for an example of this kind of design working out, bayonetta 3. or astral chain. obviously this would be a much stripped down version compared to those. but still, you can do big partner characters in gameplay.

I think it only skirted through the cracks by virtue of being the only tech demo they had showing dual mouse gameplay.

Retro definitely needs to stay on a tight leash. Have them make Metroid Prime 4, give them a little more freedom with 5, and then they can choose more freely what they want to do next but with tight supervision becaude the two times in their history they've been off the leash (at the start and after DKCTF) it was a disaster

It looks perfectly in-line with their games

no it fucking doesn't

say what you will about nintendo games and I'm sure you're probably going to shit on them but most of them at least have a core concept that makes them interesting, like splatoon's ink and squid transformation mechanic, zelda's environmental manipulation abilities, mario's moevements etc

this is a nothing game, there's nothing that make it standout which is almost never the case for a first party nintendo title

A Car Combat game in the 2000s? The Genre peaked with Twisted Metal black and nobody else seemed to be able to do it right.

They should let them try a 2D or 3D Zelda game so they can have the in house open world garbage and still have traditional Zelda games.

Nope, unless you count the FPS turning into Metroid
The closest one was the Raven Blade thing

NST themselves didn't like where the project was going but making the game "Wii Crush" wasn't gonna make things better
Dismissing NST's concerns over what I must repeat again as THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME (let alone one that was supposed to appeal to Westerners) just because they "weren't Japanese" just made things worse
Imagine if NCL told Retro to make the Prime games look more "anime" to cater to Japanese tastes

is there a particular interview you're thinking of when making that statement about ex-retro employees?

less one interview and more like repeated observations
youtube.com/watch?v=4i7P9nbOTvA
Retro's alumni will always be the first to admit when their cancelled games were going nowhere/were bad ideas period
If you went up to someone and say shit like "Raven Blade had potential, sorry to see it just died" they'd probably just shut that shit down ASAP and point out that Raven Blade had to die

no it fucking doesn't

What are you getting worked up about?

m sure you're probably going to shit on them

Oh lol.
Don't be so defensive. That's why you lack curiosity and see an unfinished game and immediately start decrying how shitty it looks.

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The only developer at Nintendo besides the Zelda team that deserves a chance at 3D Zelda is Monolith Soft.
Give Retro a chance to save Star Fox maybe

concession, dilation and sneedation accepted

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It's very generic, like not terrible but yeah it looks like a no name 3d cartoon. Her running around singing flowers into existence feels a bit like okami, if this was more striking art wise it might have worked. 110% the kind of game all the "dad walks in" memes are made for.

Tendies always fold when pressured. I was hoping you were going to keep going, you were really struggling to form a coherent thought or critique on a blatantly unfinished game.

Even finalized Kameo looks like it has more edge to it than Harmony
I nominate something like Loisel as the kind of artstyle and tone they should've gone with

tendies

lmao it's this faggot, of course it is

aww what's the matter. not a fan of Astro Bot™? :(

Vigilante 8 is better than any of the Twisted Metal games and I will die on this hill.

It's [boogeyman!]

Whoa, getting real ambitious there buddy.

Monolith are the fuckups that led to the current state of Zelda being open world slop (now with discount Gary's Mod) instead of dungeon adventures, fuck off cocksucker; they know how to make Xenoblade and that's it.

I don't understand how their art on the prime series is so good but everytime they do something more cartoony it ends up looking like the worst low budget american 3D cartoon artstyle on earth

I love tropical freeze but its art direction already looked like bootleg dreaworks entertainment and this is even worse

loisel

Is this what you get called in Britain if you can't get a license?

She's wearing pants

wow retro, they really tried for the little girl demo here

Being good at X doesn't mean you'd be good at Y
Granted I think it might stem from the talent pool they hire from being less accustomed to cartoon styled games since those were being phased out in the American AAA scene at the time of Harmony's development

Fuck all faggots saying "another fucking Donkey Kong". Tropical Freeze was good shit and much better than Returns. All I wanted from Retro was a third entry of the same quality with either the kremlings or just something new that wasn't the retarded tikis again. Insanity that they wasted away so many years on this.

retro could make a new ice climber

The reveal trailer would've likely had "From the studio that made Metroid Prime"

Tropical Freeze was good shit

It was boring and played it safe.

This looks like something that definitely would've bombed had it released. Nintendo made the right call

retro could make a new ice climber

Think Bamco's build of Metroid Prime 4 will ever get leaked?

Bluesky

Get that shit out of here

yeah yeah whatever faggot, that's the only place I found this footage

Go back

Definitely
What's even left on the list?

Little girl having to work together with big powerful summoned creature

Hey wait hang on Nintendo released a game like this a while back. and it actually looked good and played well.

Probably not for a long time if it ever does. Whatever it is is usually decades old when it does

I don't think it's possible to top tropical freeze, I'd rather see them try something else but definitely still a nintendo franchise

I should've clarified, when it comes to Japanese games

Can someone tell me more about these leaks?
I see online more Retro Studios games leaked?

I am so very glad this got canned, not every fucking team at Nintendo needs to be making kidshit

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insane how much a unique art direction helps a game stand out

though to be fait even the gameplay was quite unique with the asymmetrical combat

But they WANTED to make this game
Besides they're likely gonna do more DKC anyways

Switch devkit leaked that has Project Harmony, a cancelled game from Retro that they were working on for a couple of years after Tropical Freeze

You know you guys would've praised this game and call it a hidden gem if it came out.

I'd rather see them try something else but definitely still a nintendo franchise

Like what?
Star Fox I can understand
F-Zero sure
But something like say, StarTropics or Ice Climbers would be done so drastically they might as well be new IPs period

yeah star fox seems like a no brainer

although I could also see next level games taking care of it

Probably not, this is very obviously a game for young girls. The only threads you'd see would be people gooning to the girl.

op how did you get this

2017

Retro was given Prime 4 in January 2019

Imagine if the 2018 build got leaked and was a complete 180 to salvage this game

Back in 2015 if this was revealed people would've been furious

The builds are floating all over the internet
Based OP is putting together a gofile with a link to the patched emulator for us so we can play too

You mean like Conker's Bad Fur Day?

file sharing sites.
someone got their hands on a switch dev console and dumped/uploaded the contents.
Includes a few builds of the game in the OP, an unreleased Ridge Racer prototype, Lego Civ, and a few dev versions of released games.

Japanese

Depends if it was even Bamco's Japan studio to begin with
Nintendo knows Metroid appeals more to the west than it does Japan which is why they get Western studios to handle it these days

Did we get anything from the Lego Civ game?

...is there any footage of the other games?

Didn't want to reply to that post

holy shit this looks awful
even if they polished it and released it, I have a hunch it would have outright killed Retro Studios

I was thinking a more drastic change to what happened with Kameo but yeah picturing this getting Conker'd is hilarious

The protagonist is now a girl who sings curse words and shit

she hates the cutesy world and every single living thing in it

Wants to kill them all

The song at the end is her singing about cock and balls and alcohol and drugs that make you feel Harmony

I'd play it

It's such a shame that people reacted so poorly to the TF announcement. We could have gotten a third 2D DK game.

Yep, lots of em

I've only seen screen shots from Lego Civ, apparently it's very crash prone (like every 5 mins)
Haven't seen anything from Ridge Racer yet.

I'm still mad over Skottie Young killing off adult Gert and having a time displaced version be called "OG"
I know she's alive again but gdi I'm not optimstic

The year is 2016

Harmony is shown at E3

Dozens of "OH NO NO NO NO NO" threads and Smashfags immediately saying she's in

E3 2016 reveal

Revealed on the same day as Federation Force

Oh....oh lord

Harmony looks terrible but the shitposting inspired by it would have been very funny, akin to Balan Wonderworld shitposts.

*E3 2015
Fuck I got my years messed up

Pauline Loli got leaked

Retro's British Cunny got leaked

Great week for NintendoCunny chads. Now all we need is leaked footage of WaPeach

A girl singing like that to restore her forest or whatever might not be that bad, but it needs a way more striking art direction and better music/songs than generic la la LA sounds. I kind of liked the big beast punting cunts into the stratosphere, that could have been fun.

Retro volunteered for mp4. They built a prototype of some sort and nintendo greenlit the project after the scraped the original metroid prime 4.
There were nes articles about this

Great week for NintendoCunny chads

"HARMONY WILL SAVE THE WII-U!"

people think this alpha build is bad

yet they can’t make a game as a quarter good as it

also has some of the most shittiest takes

I’m convinced this board has below room temperature intelligence. People hating the art direction is one thing, an opinion. But saying this is a bad game? Please make a game with this quality if you actually know what’s good. Pro tip, you don’t

No way in hell that shit doesn't flop if it's one of the Wii U's last titles. What did Wii U even have in 2016? I think it was a half assed Mario Tennis and Tokyo Mirage sessions

Yup Yup! I'm a fatass motherfucker too and I love me some Nintendo cunny!

Fon anal vores Samus while singing Party Rock Anthem

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Ehhh.... whats up with those vehicle physics? The car catches a little bit of air, and all of a sudden it's up on two wheels. It looks very disconnected from the road.

The Wii-U went out with a bang
....to the head with StarFox Zero

yes they do, It's Tanabe. Tanabe wasn't involved with them between TF and Prime remastered. Prior and after that period they've been very high quality

Paper Mario Color Splash which bombed horribly

How soon until the model gets ripped?

So when's the bottom surgery?

Get back to work on Prime 4. We’ve waited long enough, assholes.

This looks like an even more budget Kameo: The Elements of Power. Nintendo was right o intervene.

why does unfinished game seem unfinished

it is a mystery

what was the first thing?

Her game never came out though
Do you really think she's gonna get the Modifyers treatment?
Western porn artists are more weary about lewding potentially underage characters because zoomers will unironically want you dead for it

I acknowledge that it's an alpha build so it won't look good, but even from the few minutes of gameplay I can see I just do not find it interesting at all. If this showed up in a Nintendo Direct I'd use it as an excuse for a bathroom break.

No thanks, I'm a guy
Give it a few weeks

I got it for $10 with some extra bonus disc. Still never opened it

alpha build

motherfucker it's dated 2017
they spent 5 YEARS on an alpha build?

It's probably there in the leak.

For the new DK game Nintendo's Korean website accidentally leaked an update poster of the game and revealed the purple rock is actually what looks to be a kid Pauline
Guess they were going for another Cappy reveal

Last thread said her name is Lumie

We missed out on historic levels of seethe.

I preordered it on the Nintendo E-shop for midnight download
It was the last time I have ever been excited for a video game. I've kept my expectations in check ever since that shit

$70 shovelware

wake me up when Nintendo actually makes something worth it's price.

I think the game needs to have somewhat realistic textures and lighting. Take what they learned from Prime and DKC and make a more believable world.

my console war shitposting folder would have been eating good that day

It really looks like Jak and Daxter, I wonder if they took inspiration from that

There wouldn't have been anything like it
Metroid fans were already seething about Federation Force, but the double whammy that the Prime devs had been working on this kiddie shit?
We'd be shitposting about it to this day

Didn't Retro hire ex-Naughty Dog devs?

Jak and Daxter

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh.....Jax at least had the Joe Mad inspired artstyle going for it
Harmony looks like something you'd see made by the same people who did Spirit Untamed

2016 was both a great and a shitty time to be a Wii U owner. Sure there wasn't much to play, but what was there was going for really cheap due to Nintendo being desperate. Got Tropical Freeze free cause of Club Nintendo and a bunch of their first party stuff was around $20-$30

federation force was 2015, anon. i'd never forget that because of how fucking awful that presentation was

Yeah I realized my mistake literally two posts later in the thread
The point still stands, kind of

Looks like a prototype Kena

One would say it would've been eating better than your asshole (you love taking dicks up your ass constantly)

FF is only considered a stinker because it has expectations of Metroid attached to it, name it literally anything else and it's solid for what it is.

It looks aimless
You sing and beat up enemies. Okay? And? Where's the fun part? What's an interesting mechanic you can do for the singing? Any unique ways to meld it into the battles? Is the overworld fun to explore?
Is the story at least engaging? (Doesn't seem to be)
No wonder it got canned. I'm shocked it took them so long to cancel it when just any outside face looking in can immediately see what its flaws are

star fox zero

federation force

animal crossing amiibo festival

if harmony was in addition to all of the above i am pretty sure Anon Babble would have been unusable for about a month after

they patched things up with Tanabe after their fallout

Hold on, what happened between Tanabe and Retro?

Despite it all Harmony probably would've been the best game of the bunch

there are some retards who defend this gigaslop

I know Anon Babbletrannies can't stop being contrarian but this is a new low

E3 2016 was year they brought just BOTW, you're thinking of 2015
But if it got revealed then
Jesus christ

No clue.
Just me guessing but Retro spoke out about how Nintendo tried to enforce the Japanese culture work ethic culture (being loyal, working at the same company and not leaving) at Retro and they didn't really like that. Tanabe probably got into an argument about it after Tropical Freeze and decided to leave Retro to their own and focus on the Jap side of things like Paper Mario and whatnot.
I guess after Nintendo cancelled Harmony and put them on Prime again they realized they needed Tanabe and apologized

An ex-Retro dev described Nintendo to be very micromanaging and that the studio doesn't really encourage individuality IIRC

Honestly considering how volatile the western game industry is, Japanese style guaranteed employment as long as you are loyal sounds better and better.

I remember being so hyped for Paper Jam

It's Mario & Luigi crossing over with Paper Mario!!!! Aw dude it's gonna be so fucking good, the best of both worlds! We're looking at the best Mario RPG ever!

the most bland boring forgettable fucking Mario game of all time

I'll still defend Star Fox Zero.

Jesus Christ I love Nintendo but holy shit that was a miserable time to be a Nintendo fan, also an unbelievably unlucky streak for all their Key developers, it almost feels like a curse.

Worst mainline Zelda game

Worst Next Level Game

Worst Platinum game

Worst Camelot game

Worst NDCube game (which is saying a lot)

And we COULD have also gotten the worst Retro game to top it off

Literally what the fuck happened back then?

Literally what the fuck happened back then?

All things worth a damn went to the Switch (and 3DS)

Worst Platinum game

No thats Babylon's fall.

I know people call Retro's Nintendo's new Rare but I've also seen people call them Nintendo's Naughty Dog before their hiatus
I'll leave it up to you to figure out how badly that sentiment has aged

somehow this game looks better than scarlet and violet

They were Panicking and had all eyes on the NX since 3 years in their flagship console was flopping hard
And we just might see a repeat of that shit too in 3 years.

You have to learn to read.

And faggots here still think struggling Nintendo is best Nintendo

I remember in 2018 telling my friends Retro Studios must be hard at work on one hell of a new game if they're taking so long making it

Honestly lets break it down. Retro was assigned Metroid Prime 4 in mid to late 2019. 2020 comes and everything shuts down due to COVID. So nothing gets done there. 2021 work begins again. So Prime 4 really didn't take that much longer than most games once development actually got going.

ok finally upload is done. gofile.io/d/9VA7wZ

included is an patched emulator, a re-signed copy of the game for use with retail keys/firm, a set of retail keys, and retail firmware

open ryujinx, under the file menu click "open ryujinx folder" in the system folder, add your two keys files. yes to replace if that comes up.

then, back in ryujinx, go to actions, install firmware, install firmware from a directory, and point it to the firmware directory.

file, load application from file, and load the NSP to start the game.

ryujinx connects a pro controller by default iirc, the game only works with joycons by default. so go to options, settings, input, and then change the controller type to a joycon pair before starting the NSP.

have fun guys

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Tropical freeze problem was just what was announced for the wii u at the time and people wanting something to save the wii u which after nsmbu no on expected a 2d platformers

ofcoure in hindsight thing prime 4 would save the wii u was silly but you know

I feel like if a sequel to other M made by team Ninja that fixed the controls and the writing was announced that same e3 it be less of a thing

They made F zero 99

You think she'd get along with Project HAMMER's protagonist?
I figured they'd have their own island next to the one in Captain Rainbow
Alternatively which game would you rather play assuming it'd be complete?

DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS FILE

Tropical Freeze looks and is great but it's not really the big hardware showcase an HD Metroid Prime would've been let alone something that could've catered more to a different audience that the Wii U hadn't covered yet by Nintendo

project hammer

looked like shit but at least using motion controls to smash faggots with a big hammer sounds like an actual gameplay concept, there's nothing in harmony

They were right to shoot it down, honestly.
When your pitch is "it's like this other game" and you have to play the other game to get it, yeah that's pretty shit.

Pragmata

Gigantic

Now this

Suffering

I'm seeing contradictions
What is her name and proof please?

Man fuck you guys. I’m a straight white male and I thought the game looked cute. It just needed to be fleshed out more.

mmmmm delicious dolphin porn :)
i'll be saving this for later

Yeah, Retro is not very good with original ideas. They need direction. I'm happy with how this has turned out, since it seems like they still got it with Prime. Here's to them staying in the Metroid mines for even longer.

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latter half of the 2010s was "Where's Retro? They GOTTA BE making something crazy."

THIS was what they were working on

Lol.

the browner your skin, the more you need to project about definitely not being a gayfag, to offset the naturally increased level of estrogen
it's a hotly scientifically debated theory, and it holds a lot of ground to the point many bro scientiests deem it plausible
that's not to say you gotta be all for it like some wannabe troon, only that the people who cry the loudest about a little girl's game being a cute game for little girls are probably brown and come from abusive households. pity them.

So is this the character from that picture they sent to Reggie?

no

Retro have tens of canceled games at this point. Nintendo keeps them around despite the company being basically useless without their guidance. And yet they dropped Rare at the first sign of trouble. What a shame.

so lumie is the protag's name?

They are never bringing the kremlings back.

That or Fon according to this thread
Not sure who to believe

Rare

They have as many if not more cancelled projects than Retro

Ironically looks a lot like Insomniac’s cancelled 8th game; Girl with a stick. And a lot like Kena which is alright at best.

This legitimately looks like shovelware. I missed Retro in the video and wondered why this was even talked about.

They need to make a RPG. Give them a second shot at Raven Blade especially with the technology they have now with the Switch 2.

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1. I doubt anyone who worked on Raven Blade is still at Retro
2. The people who still remember Raven Blade at Retro would sooner blow off their left testicle than work on Raven Blade again

Hell Rare Replay came with a bunch of documentaries about them.

Retro is moving right into prime 5 since moving onto anything else unless it was a smaller scale existing IP means they would have nothing to show until the end of the switch 2's lifespan

Maybe if Retro is lucky they can get a smaller B team to make like a wave race revival

How long until Microsoft buys them out like with Rare?

Looks and plays like a high budget indie game.

DOOOOOOOOOOO

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why does it sound so shit while david wise was apparently on board

this is a baffling project in every way

Raven Blade was the only one I was interested in.

Fucking based anon, we really appreciate your hard work. Thanks!

A second team would do DKC

Never
Nintendo fully owns them

Nintendo for all their many faults is a lot more merciful to their devs compared to other publishers
If the Project HAMMER debacle didn't kill NST, almost nothing at Retro would've killed them

someone should upload this to archive.org

Retro has two hundred people right? Thats more than enough to split into two teams.

I'm really curious on it because Lego normally has a strict no military rule

Thank you OP!

When are we getting a Project Hammer/Wii Crush leak?

That depends on the scope of the game itself
Granted even Prime 4 isn't as superfluously overbudgeted as typical western AAA fare

This feels nothing like Retro. This feels like a game Rare would've shat out in 2009
No more than 20 people would've been needed for this as a side project while everyone else could've worked on a main game

Depends. Anything from the 20th or 21st Century is right out. But Lego has made soldiers for their Pirates of the Carribbean set.

This feels nothing like Retro

They don't have a set identity because their two franchises are literally just Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong Country which are drastically different
Also

Rare

They released A LOT of stuff in their peak of differing artstyles

They had Nazis in Lego Indiana Jones but no swastikas
Tanks were in the games but no sets were made IIRC
Granted they'd never allow Lego Hitler even in game

a fucking EGG

Just noticed you said 2009 but even their cancelled works were a lot more varied

It's a robot

YJK

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Same way Mrania Team went from Sonic Mania to Penny Literal Who.

Their situation is pretty sad, they wanted to make Superstars as a proper sequel to Mania but communication with Sega broke down and they parted ways. Among other things, Sega demanded that the sequel abandon Mania's pixel art

penny's big breakaway is extremely ugly but it's at least mechanically interesting

it's also thirty fucking dollars when it should have been fifteen

appreciate the upload. Emulator won't start for me, seems to immediately crash before a window can even be displayed.

The Mania devs were going to make a Mania 2 but they couldn't come to an agreement so that's why they split
No burnt bridges, although since Penny flopped I'm guessing they'll be more agreeable to whatever Sega wants them to do now

it says lumie in the menus

Most likely they'll do a remaster of Prime 2 and 3 with Joy mouse control.

Looks like placeholder assets for a daisy game.

No point when NSO already does GameCube now

Screencap?

tried installing on a real hacked switch, icon shows up but unfortunately it doesn't boot into the game (I'm guessing due to requiring 8GB RAM on dev unit)
The emulator you provided doesn't launch, what exactly was the patch done for the emulator itself (not the game)?

We still have a new DK

Retro doesn't like being stuck on franchises