guy who made ben drowned is working on a new series of youtube videos
puts out an open advert for anyone who wants to voice some of the background NPCs in it
paying $15 for 4-5 generic NPC lines
insane meltdown from voice actor twitter, demanding $100/hr for saying lines like "it sure is foggy today"
incredible rage in the replies
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what did the voice acting community mean by this
PAY VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEYRE WORTH
what's a voice actor
do you people not have AI?
Voice actors are the most gormless suns a bitches on the web
I mean $15 is pretty insulting. It'd legitimately be better to ask for volunteers. Would you want to say you're worth $15? That's less than minimum wage in some states. Just set it up as a fun project, and you're grateful for any volunteers.
isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
$15 isnt even an entire meal from mcdonalds
boomer is living in 2007
5 lines on your own mic is maybe a half hour if you aren't useless.
$15 is actually reasonable but go fuck yourself
asking people to audition for $15 is kind of bizarre
These people are genuinely delusional.
noooo only we're allowed to take advantage of desperate people for cheap labor, goy
It wouldn't be that bad if you weren't sent a 1099 on it. You literally have to pay taxes on it. I could get it if you were paid $15 in cash to say three lines into your microphone in your own house.
Yeah but the point is you're putting a price to yourself like that. Seriously, just ask for volunteers.
I don't know why people still make english voiceover anymore. It's not fucking worth it dealing with that sector of the industry.
Western VAs are some of the most entitled people, ai is aids but it's better than dealing with those awful people.
what would you say is fair?
no one actually educates OP
they all just bitch
is this what people on twitter do all day? just get angry at things? seeems exhausting
Just ask for volunteers, man.
$50 sounds more reasonable. He's asking for three actors too. That'd only be $150.
I mean $15 is pretty insulting
For 5 minutes of "work"? Seems more than fair. Even if it was a full hour that's not a horrible rate
is this what people on twitter do all day? just get angry at things? seeems exhausting
First day on Anon Babble?
Is this what mental illness is?
1. Hello saar how are you
2. I am under the water please help me
3. *Drowning noises*
4. I drowned saar now I will haunt you bitch
When do I get my $15?
ElevenLabs costs $5 a month
1099 for $15 job
yeah I'd rather do it for free
Any freelance shit where you rationalize it as "it'll be worth it if I just do it fast" is a bad idea. You just shouldn't put a price that low on a person. I am literally saying he should be asking for people to do it for free instead.
post vocaroo link and paypal email
Okay. He wants real people though. If you argue that you should actively devalue yourself because some other form of labor is going to do it cheaper, you're gonna have a pretty shitty society. I'm not just talking with acting, or whatever.
what is leslie trying to do here
you're gonna have a pretty shitty society
news flash incoming, boomer
uhmm sweetie you should be offering $100 minimum but I'll be cool and offer to do it for $99.99 plus tip
He should have said that it costs $50 to be included in his video.
$0.00 +tip
I guess I'll stop mowing my lawn until my neighbors agree to pay me a landscaping fee
genius
huh? isn't it like a $600 minimum before a 1099 comes into play?
All the time you'll put into going back and forth auditioning, setting up the mike, recording the lines, doing all the backend stuff, sending the file, etc is going to make that $15 pretty useless. I'd say $100 is fair.
I wouldn't ever consider voice acting to ever have a market rate of over $22-25/hr. Especially for a small scale project. It's a grey collar trade job essentially.
what is my motivation
you're a generic npc
it's probably something REALLY simple like, literally three to four lines at most and nothing else but he wants to keep it authentic even if it's for something that small which is admirable. But let these VA cunts have their meltdown, they just make it so more people use AI instead of hiring them. It's a self-correcting problem.
star of david
GUYS LOOK PEOPLE ON TWITTER ARE SAYING THINGS
no actually I won't look
if there's any good in the world every single retard that bumps this garbage will be banned
Happy merchants' favorite pastime is retarded price negotiations
??? That's your lawn. Are you mowing other people's lawn for pocket change?
yeah but what's my motivation
Yeah nigger it's 5 lines. You don't couch a voice actor over a fucking nothing role.
refuses to use AI for character described as generic NPC
demands people volunteer over the internet for a few fivers
humiliation ritual?
offer voice actors what they're worth
they get mad
The only games I have ever even thought had good voice acting were Fromsoft games and Gears of War. All of these people can shove it up their ass, I'd rather just read text
then don't do it lol.
You can get people to mow your lawn for 30 bucks.
If you want good lines, probably should. Like he could probably pay literally $5 on fiverr for some poo to give shitty lines.
voice actors are too stupid to understand a simple assignment
still think they're worth $100/hr in some ass backwards delusional lalaland
my sides
AI can't replace those fucks soon enough
I wouldn't. And I wouldn't recommend other people do it.
Taking care of my land has a direct effect on their property values and yet they don't give me a cut whenever their property value increases. They're literally profiting off of my back breaking labor FOR FREE and I won't stand for it
It's not gonna be $5 of work for untrained people especially if they're the kind to bite at a $15 paycheck.
So mowing the lawn is more valued as a service than voice acting? The majority would probably agree with you.
hey guys i'm the Ben Drowned guys looking for some nice NPC voices in a little project I'm doing anyone wanna volunteer? Nothing big just a short cameo
There, he'd have 1000 applications and no one going "HUR DUR BUT I COULD WORK AT WENDYS AND GET DOUBLE THAT AN HOUR"
yeah, the VA mafia lol
he didnt specify a california hire
a south east asian hire also fits his criteria and for them $15 makes everything you said more than worth it
I think 50 would have been a more reasonable amount. It would still have been somewhat low but not like an insult like 15.
Are non english VAs as whiny? Not talking about nipponese but rather germans, frenchies, mexicans etc.
You know, at least she's being polite enough to talk in DM once she learns he's new to hiring.
Okay?
Okay. That's making your property worse though, so if you're alright with that, go for it.
those ""people"" would then whine he should be hiring actual hecking voice actors and how not doing it is genocide
15 dollars
jesus christ lol
Your line is "It's a nice day out!"
Yeah but what are my character's feelings at this current moment, what is his goal in life. I need context. I can't give a good delivery without context. How nice is it? Is it completely clear? Is he an outdoorsman? I need his motivation!!!!
Like really? Are you serious?
guy is just making a RPG Maker 2003-tier little project
retards on twitter are acting like he's some actual indie studio and outraged by $15 to say a few words on a mic
should he throw in some health benefits and free snack bar as well?
it's twitter VAs anon. do you really think they wouldn't jump at the chance to deride people for trying to get volunteers while they're striking? they'd bitch no matter the ask
"wts item"
"how much?"
"offer"
every fucking time
insult
If he was willing to compromise for dogshit, I'm sure he would've just went on Fiverr instead of trying to get actual people to do work for dirt cheap.
itemseller is ignoring you
paying $15 for 4-5 generic NPC lines
That's overpaying.
He should have asked for volunteers. Do you know how weird it is for someone to paypal you $15 for work?
its 4-5 lines you retard. It takes like 2 minutes to record it and send it. 15 dollars for 2 minutes of work is pretty good considering most jobs are 15 dollars per HOUR.
How come it's a crime when this guy does it but when the Hypnospace Outlaw guy does it you have 1000 people lining up to suck him off
hypnotism
is the character in conversation
is the character talking to the MC
is the character talking to themselves
is the character talking to a crowd
yes, this is basic bitch shit, but it's more involved than here's five lines, shoot them into your mic and send me the file in less than ten minutes
I don’t see the meltdown and it’s not even from leftists it’s mainly normalfags and MAGA people
"doing all the backend stuff" like pressing upload and save
i get it if this was some AAA video production but the dude just makes youtube videos and wanted to give amateur voice artists work for what could not be more than 15 min of effort kek
is all the sag-aftra stuff exacerbating tensions cause this seems like a super unhinged response even for twitter, these random people demanding 100/hr starting make no sense
how the fuck is it weird you spastic. who knows and who gives a fuck? it's 5 mins work and the 15$ is a thank you
Buy an ad.
Fuck off, you literally get free lunch for spouting a few words.
They're not getting their hands dirty hammering iron all day, they just have to speak in a fucking mic about the wheather
Why the fuck is he offering any money at all? Why didnt he just make a community post on his YouTube and ask people of they want to be part of his next video?
If this was "hey hop on discord and record 5 lines for me and I'll cut it up and toss your $15" that'd be reasonable. What he's looking for is people to actually take time to record proper audio and send it to him, that's a step up.
practically speaking you're right, but this way we get to see twitter VAs seethe, some of the most insufferable cunts on twitter would have seethed regardless as though he was stealing jobs by asking for volunteers.
Everyone's getting bent out of shape about the VA part, but here I'm just thinking that the whole announcement for "Outdated Creepypasta: THE SEQUELNING" feels like it defeats the whole point. The original was meant to seem like it could have been some haunted artifact of a game, even if it was pretty hokey at times. When you announce ahead of time that you're doing another fakey fake urban legend of video games and explaining who and what is going to be involved, it literally removes all intrigue. This is why no Blair Witch Project movie after the first one was worth a shit.
PAY THEM FUCKING PAY THEM
"okay"
noooo not like that
AI it is.
#NormalizeAIVoiceActing
It's putting a price on yourself. Some people on this site don't seem to understand something like that.
oy vey
it adds flavor
but say it generically
This is a rare glimpse in the genesis of slop.
it's not weird, amazon has a site called Amazon Mechanical Turk where you get paid as little as pennies for doing little tasks for people that can be done on a computer. it's no different than someone asking "hey can you carry this table to my house I'll give you $15" except this is much easier and can be done from your desk.
Can they not infer the tone from the lines?
Alright. Explain to me in detail how you would say "It's a nice day out!" in 5 different was going off your context.
In fact. Just give me a vocaroo of each and I will pay you 15$ if you can actually give me a substantially different take for each.
That's not being polite, that just her trying to never say any numbers out loud, for maximum scam potential. Like when someone wants to buy or sell an item in a video game but doesn't say the price and tells you to private message for details.
Do you know how weird it is for someone to paypal you $15 for work?
Have you ever heard of a website called "Fiverr?"
demanding $100/hr
4-5 lines
so what? give them 5minutes to take a piss, drink some water, say the lines and pay them $8?
sounds like the first deal was better
What do Anon Babble users who started using this site before the creepypasta boom think of Ben Drowned? Any of the three arcs.
Thanks for the revelation anon, I'm tired of getting harassed by roaming landcaping guys in trucks anyway
hey ese
What
how much did you get paid to mow your own lawn?
One tall glass of lemonade
fuck you gringo, you can't just work for almost nothing that'll affect our own wages
This has happened more often than I can count
You just shouldn't put a price that low on a person. I am literally saying he should be asking for people to do it for free instead.
I don't understand that line of thinking at all. Seems like the guy is trying to be nice and essentially buy people lunch for something that he knows he could get for free anyway.
Could you be more hyperbolic?
twitter users
actual people
Yes, I'm aware of stuff like that. It's like Fiverr. It's a race to the bottom where your labor is literally competing with the cheapest people from the poorest countries in the world. It's demoralizing, and soul-crushing.
Literally what I was thinking of. And Fiverr is horrible.
never heard of him, think he's a faggot, next question
So you could rely on random nobodies recording whatever? Or, y'know, you could treat voice acting like the craft it is and pay the professionals instead of exploiting a fan base.
The funniest part about this is that he literally hired that one famous AAA voice actor guy with the raspy voice to narrate the entire King Kong april fools day parody and a bunch of other internet celebs a few years ago. It's not about stiffing voice talent, this is clearly meant to specifically attract amateurs looking to pad out their resumes like putting out a call for extras or something and of course VO twitter is so traumaprone thanks to AI that they jump down his throat
Fuck you, Alex. I don't want my likeness in your slop.
Agreed, modern horror is pretty shit because of that, they don't even bother trying to maintain the immersion
It's the difference between having sex with someone consensually, and someone walking up to you after sex, and putting a buck fifty in your hand.
thank you for consneeding
Should have said not open to Americans to avoid the FAG-AFTRA twitter people complaining
Are you trying to psyop me into hating voice actors by spouting inane bullshit that makes them look bad or is that genuinely your unfiltered dogshit take?
mexican vas are a literal mafia with married stars and their families at the helm and young talent being passed around for roles
that and youtubers/former tv comedians which are another mafia altogether
demoralizing
So it's about your own feelings?
irony is this post is seven lines
video games
I would read 5 lines for 15 bucks, yes.
5 lines
probably takes about 30 seconds to do
$15 for 30 seconds of work
gig that pays $1800/hr still isn't enough for the jewish lady
What a retard take
It's the fear response of a dying species (people who sit in their underwear and read words someone else wrote for characters someone else animated and programmed while insisting they're somehow an important part of this process)
As someone who used to do freelance work for cheap, I suppose I am relating to things from personal experience, yeah. Around six years ago, I was charging $15 for a minute of music. This past January I reached a milestone of composing for $1500 a minute.
We literally live in said society.
unironically kino, aged though because every trope it created was ran into the ground afterward by imitators though but when it was new it was the most exciting things ive ever seen
probably takes about 30 seconds to do
i get wanting to shit on vas because they do suck as a whole but stop being retarded
dude wants good quality audio, you're not getting that in 30 seconds
seethe
HAHAHA fucking another VA melt down, this is why they dont deserve a penny
some people do it for free, its probably few lines not like they're making movies
These people remind me of those bits in tv shows where the characters get hired to be literal background assets and then they start overacting because they want the attention on them.
"What's wrong with $15? It'll only take five minutes. You're so greedy! $7 for two minutes of work is fine! You people are vipers! $1 for 30 seconds is a steal!"
Dope. Thanks OP, I'll give it a go. I don't even care about the money. Just sounds fun.
What are context clues?
you could treat voice acting like the craft it is
Reading into a microphone is not a craft. If you had any talent, YOU'D be making the film.
That's less than minimum wage in some states.
Good, fuck minimum wage
someone please explain to me how this is any different than a film paying $50 to an extra to stand in the background for 6 hours
Indies. Have. No. Money.