It's so over

Man, it's such a shame. I genuinely found the game fun but they completely fucked matchmaking and every game become a steamroll. I don't think any changes matter if you won or lose in 20 mins.

The upgrade system is a complete nightmare. I'd rather pull out my fingernails than spend hours studying that shit.

just use the builds people have shared on steam

If everyone just uses a premade meta build, why is the system in the game in the first place?

As a top 2k Dota player, I thought it was fun, but I can't handle not being very very good at it so I quit. Lanes in particular were just too stressful to play for me.

gibb me some cheap immortals or that big ass axe sword

They're mashing together CS, DotA, and Overwatch. The game seems interesting but not worth investing 100's of hours into just to be half decent. The FPS mechanics on top of DotA but it's also 360 degrees instead of mostly horizontal eye level like in CS. The skill ceiling is waaaay too high.

You start by using premade builds (there's an option for that in-game) until you learn what items are there and can figure out which one to use in which scenarios.

had a lot of fun at first, every new update that came out, i started to lose more and more games. Now each games i do i get stomped so hard most of the time, or we stomped them. rarely rarely any in between. it's like the first 10 mins decide wether i'm just going to be alt shifting on another window for 25 mins while they end or if i actually get to play the game

youtube.com/watch?v=oKrC8EH6l_Q

valve just needs to go back to stealing games like CS and dota

If Valve would host a TI for this game with 15 million prize pool, everybody would be back, but the game is still shit.

High skill ceiling and I don't give a shit about any of the characters so I'm not going to invest time into it. Try with less DEI designs next time.

Using premade builds is completely unsatisfying. I hate just haphazardly clicking on shit, not knowing what it's all doing. You have a constant feeling that you are just bumbling about being a detriment to your team. To stop that feeling you would have to do hours of homework, which most people just don't have the time or patience to do.

valve just needs to make gambling on this game, just like cs

gambling won't help, the only way if they drop hard cash on this game and support tournaments like they did with Dota 2.

For me it was fun for the first few days and then moba players got too good and I couldn't play laning phase without getting fucked. Moba shit just ain't for me, I don't have the genes.

Icefrog is behind this, no? I constantly hear Dota players glaze him desu. Maybe he'll find a way.

When I first tried it, it felt like too much was going around. "git gud" is all fine and well, but I believe the game has too many mechanics going around plus you need to actually be good at third person shooters. I did not enjoy having to stop to look at a shop to buy the next item or whatever like a regular MOBA. The game gives me full control of my character so I'd want my skill to be enough to beat my opponent without having to rely on learning builds for dozens of potential characters. My brain is already full with builds for almost every character in Dota 2, I don't want to learn a new game the same way.

The fact that it was released/leaked this early was a massive mistake. Interest quickly died off due to the game being unfinished, then Marvel Rivals took out every win they had in their sail.

Shame, I fucking loved what I have played, Ivy might be one of my favourite hero-shooter character ever made.

how much could it possibly change at this point

they could add an aram or arena equivalent and instantly (and permanently) get themselves back into 5 digits

icefrog made a masterful game but it just came in the wrong time era people in 2025 dont want to put time into learning a game as complex as dota 2 you got lucky with dota 2 being as big as is it tying to recreate that magic twice will be hard/ borderline impossible people want to turn their brainoff and auto pilot the game like rivals and i know icefrog isn't capable of dumbing down his games

game too hard, people flying everywhere

Marvel Rivals killed it's hype

Good riddance.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

draglock

Valve fell off HARD

If it's actually a brawler now rather than a moba I might play the game again

what if we mix together league of legends and overwatch with DEI as emulsifier and make a new game?

BRAVO GABE.

Pretty much this. I simultaneously feel like Deadlock is incredibly cool and like I never want to fucking play it because it's exhausting.

smite is unironically better

Needs progression.
Needs a casual mode where you can turn your brain off.
Needs actual hot girls instead of DEI hires.

Deadlock
hehe, more like
D-e-a-d

no patches

no new heroes

months without any changes

FUCK OFF VALVE GIVE ME MORE ITS STALE AS FUCK NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY AGAINST SAME COMBOS EVERY GAME NIGGER

RoR2 devs sold out for THIS

hahahahaha damn

I don't want a fucking MOBA. I don't want to spend 30 minutes killing stupid AI bots and doing chores. I want a tightly designed shooter that focuses on fast paced combat against humans with no filler.

In other words, I want a TF2 update or Team Fortress 3. But Valve is allergic to giving people what they want, and is no longer the company they once were, so that isn't happening, so no interest from me.

Also, nobody wants DEI shit.