Dishonored bros

Dishonored bros...

They could have told 100 different stories in that universe, but instead they ruined it and flushed all of its potential down the drain.

It's pretty obvious isn't it? No way Zenimax would let this guy work on Arkane stuff again after Prey development fiasco. Also, the guy is making his own imsim game with Koreans rn.

qrd ? i recently finished them and i'm curious

Good, I hope this guy never works on anything again. All of these games were atrocious.

Arx Fatalis

Dishonored 1

PREY

Weird west

garbage take, these games were all pretty great

The dude fought hard with Bethesda, not wanting Prey to be named Prey, he lost obviously. After that, he fucked off from Bethesda and made his own company.

Colantonio said in later interviews that calling their game Prey was a "non negotiable compromise" with Bethesda, a decision that no one on the Arkane team was pleased with. Colantonio described the naming decision as "gross" and "disrespectful" to both his team and the creators of the original game. He stated that it felt like a "kick in the face" to the developers of the original game (Human Head Studios) and that he wished to apologise to them. The creative team at Arkane reportedly wanted their game to stand on its own as a unique IP but were overruled by corporate decisions at Bethesda. Colantonio said it felt bad to lie that they were continuing the Prey series. He expressed that it was a "sales mistake" that would turn away fans of the original Prey and fail to attract other players. Colantonio left Arkane Studios shortly after Prey's release, citing creative disagreements as one of his reasons for departing.

Colantonio isn't at Arkane, how is this surprising?

so why is he the bad guy if he didn't want to disrespect the old game and previous dev ? also what's the issue with continuing dishonored

Weird West

great

Prey (2006) wasn't even that good.

After that, he fucked off from Bethesda and made his own company.

Minor addition: He fucked off to make his own Pizza restaurant since he was burned out on the industry. Years later he then formed a new game company. Somewhere between all of that he also found the time to form a band and get swole in the gym. How he finds the time to do all of this shit I have no idea.

It was amazing. Yeah.

Dishonored

Wasnt this one of the franchises ruined by Sarkesian?

People really liked the fake gameplay trailer from the original Prey 2 though.

You do know he *founded* Arkane, right? And was the director of all of the company's games before Dishonored 2

puts PREY in capitals pretending as if it was important

it wasn't just a robbery of the space bounty hunter game that everyone wanted

Prey (2006) was a perfectly average shooter in a sea of average shooters. Prey (2017) was pure garbage.

Why was Prey 2017 pure garbage? It's a different genre.

Somewhere between all of that he also found the time to form a band

"It all started when Raphael wrote the song “Realization”, sang by Ava Gore for the video game Prey: Mooncrash (By Arkane Studios). Shortly thereafter, Weird Wolves was born"

youtu.be/AoyA7gbMfME

Try adding more black female protagonists. That should guarantee success. LOL.

Dark Messiah is a shoddy game redeemed solely by how enjoyable it is to kick enemies into spike traps and off cliffs, and I'm tired of people acting like it's good because of one fun mechanic.

Arx I could never get into, but everything else he's worked on has been awful, so I'm not that interested in going back to it.

It's one of the weakest examples of a game in the genre it's trying to be. I legitimately prefer Bioshock, that's how poorly made Prey (2017) is.

It's one of the weakest examples of a game in the genre it's trying to be. I legitimately prefer Bioshock, that's how poorly made Prey (2017) is.

lol

I legitimately prefer Bioshock, that's how poorly made Prey (2017) is.

I legitimately prefer Bioshock

you have brainrot if you prefered this streamlined consolized System Shock over nuPrey

Don't worry, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

A boring linear shooter is better than a completely tedious imsim with no reason to explore and nothing interesting to say. I fucking hate Bioshock, but I hate Prey (2017) more.

Can you come up with a single actual criticism? Be detailed please.

People got hyped for Prey 2

Well Austin is fucking dead and Lyon is doing Blade so even a puppeted corpse version of dishonored 3 from "Arkane" is unlikely.

Mostly Harvey Smiths fault but yes. Harvey got really really into the feminism in gaming stuff because Anita critiqued D1 once.

completely tedious imsim with no reason to explore and nothing interesting to say

how can someone be so retarded? it's literally one of best games to explore. so is mankind divided, but we're not ready for that talk

Bvased
He even looks like a kino dishonored antagonist who beats you up while talking some philosophical shit

An average 2006 shooter by 2015+ standards would be the best game ever released, so I could see why.

It's hard to talk about critique when it comes to dogshit. There are games out there where I can go "well, this is bad, and this is bad, but this is okay", but when it comes to something like Prey (2017), it's just awful. I don't understand how anyone can see anything redeeming in it to begin with, from the awful host of characters, the disgusting audio logs, the complete lack of any real reason to search out any of the faceless NPC corpses so you can get some tidbit about how gay they were from their e-mails, the atrocious combat, the comical lack of weapons, the lack of enemy types, I mean there's nothing at all even slightly good about the game.

mankind divided

See, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. You are literally too stupid to see how stupid you are. HR shit the bed towards the end, why would ANYONE play a sequel to it?

So you're either shitposting or just mentally ill, gotcha.

HR shit the bed towards the end, why would ANYONE play a sequel to it?

who gives a fuck storybabby. immersive sims are played for gameplay, go back to playing god of war or whatever you homos play

Nice thread- I still don't know why he said he's not gonna make D3.

Because he left Arkane and has his own studio and is making another game right now.

He is right, every time nuPrey is being discussed people always bring up that it shouldn't have been called Prey.

Corvo with his granddaughter..

I hate storygamers, they ruin every good franchise with their constant whining about writing

I don't know why you think I care about the story, I'm talking about the obviously cut content because they ran out of time.

I mention the story in Prey because the game is so poor in every other element that I can only really imagine someone playing it for the (awful) story. There's no need to explore, because the game both showers you in Neuromods and gives you the option to just build your own from throwing recycler grenades around, so there are no resources in the game you're ever lacking in. It's atrocious game design.

Dishonored was mediocre and Dishonored 2 was straight up ass. Why would anyone want a third one?

Just zenimax being zenimax as usual. May Bob Altman burn in hell for all eternity.

name 3 good games

Half Life
Half Life 2
Uhhhhh......

Why does this industry hate talented people so much?
Look at Artstation for example, look how much awesome art there is.
And then we get absolute trash in the final product.
Who the fuck are they hiring?

Because hiring talented people is expensive.

Curious how nobody ever complains about people talking about a game's story when it is good

Losing millions on a flop is even more expensive. Just hire 10 talented people and you're almost guaranteed to at least make profit.

I understand his stance on that but chances are it did increase sales

They need to retcon all novels

1 great game and 2 with abysmal writing that subvert the franchise out of existence

I'd rather have Deathloop 2.

That's pretty based desu

For that to happen the leadership themselves has to be competent

Generate a little bit of extra sales but killed the Prey franchise. Typical AAA games executive short term gain long term pain crap

Man, can't hate Pete Hines enough for fucking over the dishonored guys and human head studios. I was looking forward to prey 2.

Prey is one of the my favourite games of all time, but I've never played mooncrash. Escaped with one character and then never continued it on, maybe I'll play it now.

Raph is one of the last standing old guards there is, truly an avatar of hope in the sea of shit. If you like video games, you like Raph.

Prey is Arkanes best game

Based stubborn frenchman

what's arcane doing these days? some woke shit I imagine?

NuPrey is based and anyone that hates it just because of the name is a total brainlet. Also old Prey was mediocre at best and the old Prey 2 trailer was a fabricated vertical slice. Both are extremely overrated for what they are.

I hope Raph's new game is good.

Without Ralph it won't be the same anyway. Harvey showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that he just can't do it.

mfw

the """"""immersive sim""""" fanboys are just people who constantly whine about there not being enough games of the type and how little innovation there is in games and then when a new game of the sort comes out they say they will not buy it because its not similar enough to one of their sacred games

dishonored isnt the same as thief so its shit

prey isnt ss2 so its shit

51yo

So I still have a chance.
WAGMI

I have never read any post like that

Doesn't look natty

this guy sounds based as fuck

it's cute you people are still spouting the meme that more than 3 people wanted to play your shitty generic FPS

It was buggy and a little threadbare, but good. I wouldn't call it great but implying it was bad is a shit take. I wish companies made more games like it (genre-defying title with a unique setting and full emphasis on player freedom).

Retarded but I doubt the name had any effect positive or negative. hardly anyone knows about the original prey so it was already a new ip in the eyes of most

No TrannyDestroyer -- no buy.

that clarification wasn't needed

based but of course nu/v/ wouldn't understand this and just consoom another mediocre game

I'm still mad how shit it was, the entire premise is about finding a way to kill everyone in one day which could lead to some great gameplay if structured better, certain targets guarding up if you get spotted in previous levels, having multiple ways to get everyone, their behavior actually changing based on what you did before that day etc. since you're meant to replay that shit over and over.
Instead there is only one solution and the game explicitly guides you towards it at all times, no experimentation, no exploration.

One of the best directors in the western game industry, it's a shame I don't like the look of his new game too much. They need a better art director.

Indeed but... old and not particularly successful game = classic. Plus: Woah? the gravity!! a native protagonist? that's so cool!

Dark Messiah is a shoddy game redeemed solely by how enjoyable it is to kick enemies into spike traps and off cliffs, and I'm tired of people acting like it's good because of one fun mechanic.

Bro, you get to fuck a demon bitch whos barely wearing clothes in one of the endings, devs (and vidya directors) that based are few and far between now.

I legitimately prefer Bioshock, that's how poorly made Prey (2017) is

lel you got me. Here's a (you)

I only played Bioshock 1. It was a great shooter. Why do people say Prey 2017 is better than Bioshock? I guess all the abilities and aliens shape shifting into environment is cool

A new strong woman rises from the ashes and brings the magic back. Also some evil old white dude wants to take over the worlllld at the same time

I only played Dishonored 1 when it came out, so I recently decided to play the entire franchise. The games are pretty fucking great. Obvious DOTO is the shittiest by far, but that's not just because you're forced to play as Billie Lurk, but because her powers are ass and the story is nonsensical. I liked how each game/DLC had you play as a different person who had mostly different powers and the world building is top notch. I expected to hate Dishonored 2 because I didn't want to play voiced Corvo and I hate women, but I played as Emily and I honestly think it's a better game than 1.

Bioshock is a linear shooter.
Prey is a metroidvania.
Some like one flavor more than the other.

Just a reminder that Bethesda really wanted that game to fail

Maybe they could choose a protagonist people actually want to play as this time?

Didn't they kill the game with 2 and specifically the dlc?

They could make a prequel

Whats the appeal of running back?

Deathslop ruined it

What ruined Dishonored was the switch in art style from 1 to 2 and killing the myth in a spinoff game. They should've just kept working on the original engine, kept the beautiful oil-painted artstyle and expand the world with new characters, instead of narrowing it down for fanservice. Reintroducing Delilah in the 2nd game also was a major flaw. Deathslop is completely unimportant to the series, no matter how it relates to it.

Meh. I liked this first one was disappointed with the second. Rather someone else try and make a stealth game. Hopefully we are at the end of the sequel for awhile. Its been abused hard.

Nobody gives a shit about your stupid sequel to an unfinished slop game and it's retarded 2006 release. Listening to you crybabies is tiring.

Man, they were a fucking shitshow

the Boyle sister who financed Empress death got away scot-free and even got a happy ending, while the other two innocent died in gruesome way

Emily purged Overseers and anything that's connected to them

Dishonored have novel adaptations?

Several, some are taking place between 1 and 2, others are continiuing story after 2 and DotO

Arkane will probably make Dishonored 3 after the blade game because Dishonored is the only noteworthy IP they currently have under their belt atm.

I’m expecting it to be like Dishonored 2: good gameplay, but a mid at best story. Unless the writers get changed and someone comes along to reign in Harvey’s bad ideas. Deus Ex and the first Dishonored both proved that he can make great things if someone is holding his leash. They also proved that his true talent lies in being a level designer rather than a director.

None of those games were good. There has never been a good stealth game. The gameplay is inherently terrible.

Current Arkane is developing a Blade game. Now I was sure this was going to flop, because there was a Marvel movie coming up too and it looked like a trainwreck by every metric, but there's a rumor that Disney actually cancelled it. It must've been really bad, BUT it's a good thing for the game, because if Arkane can get their version of Blade out with no news about the movie they can at least dodge any negative publicity.

Once the Blade game is out I imagine they'll throw themselves into Dishonored 3. After the failure of Deathloop and Redfall this is their only property that is still popular enough. If Blade fails I imagine the studio will simply shut down before they can get another game out though.

I don't think that Blade game is coming out anytime soon based on the marketing. That means D3 will take even longer to materialize.

(Non-)Linearity isn't the crux. One is a shooter, the other is first person action game wherein shooting is an option. Different flavors of ice-cream.

You're playing an awful lot of faith in Harvey with that. The guy has been a disaster for game design all the way back to Deus Ex 2 where even Spector told him that some of his ideas were bad and he just dismissed him.

He’s a top-tier level designer though, you have to give him that at least.

Kind of weird how he drank the woke kool-aid after one critique from Anita though.