AI Limit

Play Arrisa's game!

save file got corrupted

started a new save

realized you can make the big robot fuck off in the tutorial by destroying the hand

Neat

Arrisasisters...

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one more hour

being a vageslave is suffering

Can you get the key and go to area with Charcoal's little brother without dropping the big robot?

Fucking niggers hit the bump limit of the previous thread already. stop spamming.

perfect height for headpats

Not even complaining.

No, there is a pretty big robot in the way

I forgot the key is on the girder behind robot.
Can't you spawn it elsewhere with CheatEngine?

chinese or english

ENGLISH for the goatchan.

If you go there, what's the point?

Even if you could, it probably doesn't have it's body modeled.
I tried to sprint to the edge when I dropped him down, but you can't even see him falling.

AI IS LE BAD

With just the item's memories alone, I can tell that aismov was a mistake

To poke his shiny metal ass with a spear.
But is likely correct and there's nothing to poke.

This lady did get pretty handsy...

Ackchyually, AI is le good and Shirley is the next step in human evolution.

Take the hidden platform train or go down the path after the long elevator ride first?

Hidden platform is progress, down is optional fun

"Hidden" platform

Needed to continue the game.

Big hole

Big hole containing secrets.

It really isn't.
AIs worked tirelessly to keep Earth a paradise for humans.
Humans did nothing besides getting more degenerate each year till AIs had enough and fucked off.
Humans were too stupid to leave complete control in hands of unpredictable superhuman intelligence with no backups whatsoever.

Big hole containing secrets.

And we're back to church merchants talk again.

IT WAS YOU, ALL ALONG
by myside........zanzibart

very cute of a name shirley

bunny outfit is canon confirmed

shirley's eyes change from blue to red

I don't like bad things happening to cute things

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oh no patch update happened with some nurf patches.
Now I will never beat the game.

There's actually a big reason for that, and probably not what you think.

Depends. How sex is the game?

It's the least coomerbait anime game.

elysium truly exists

its the pleasurecube

comfy

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Kinda wanna do ng+ with this outfit and weapon and executioners seal
trailblazers oath and the self pierce to get sync rate back up and increase damage

yeah, except for that endless torture part

costume make me hard but weapon make me harder

i just beat cleansing knight and that squad fight in the poison swamp. am I clear to go to the Underground after the knight?

Does giving horn girl the tree seal lock me out of buying spells?

I'm doing a NG+ run with this right now
Shield has become the workhorse of my spell arm since I can get big chunks of HP and sync back when I do a burst with it.
Just gotta carry throwables around with me for the ranged assholes.

sometimes the camera is really clunky like its hitting walls while turning on the way or something

a restart of the game fixes it

for a short while but not forever

Find the arboretum in the swamp and grab the free respec item if you haven't already.

no

The game would be better if spirit did not exist and spells had str or dex requirements instead so every build got something in the spell slot.

Any pics of the extracted in-game models like that side view of Goat chan? Specifically the one outlining her tits?

did that i'm good

Its fine this way really

i spent a lifetime in WoW, i had accepted then, i accepted it now

i'm unga-bungaing with a greatsword and this game is very easy

So what will the DLC be? New outfits or actual new content?

Devs didn't specify yet.

does picking to continue or give up the mission matter or is the actual important choice for an ending later?

I don't think that choice matters but I went with continue the mission both times so not 100% sure.

If you picked continue, your save is bricked
It doesn't matter because you can't disobey the iron code

Doesn't matter what you pick.
If you pick continue Charon will get a bit surprised but Arrisa tells he she still cares about other human beans and will try her hardest to help them.

how far through the game am I? I'm at the City Underground

Which branch?

4th

Maybe 2/3.
Did you already visit Ancient Machine Works?

Where the fuck is he, I fed him his free mud ball.

lel, bricked
did you progress to Hagios Patir Cleansing Stairs before you got here?

finished the gank boss fight at the forest in first try

but dried all my items

I wonder if it was worth it

mission is to teach robots emotions and free will

get pissy when one of them gets emotions and free will

This meeting doesn't actually matter for getting the achievement so don't worry too much about it.

Yep, I bricked this shitty quest in NG in a different way as well.

You need 3 encounters with Shirley and 3 encounters with Vikas before you take the big teleport you find after you fight Saint boss.
Shirley's quest can be salvaged, Vikas' can't.
Basically to be safe, you need to go to poison woods as soon as you can and only then proceed through the city, making sure you meet balcony Shirley and rail car Shirley.

Executioner

shield and parry buffs

both riposte buffs

shield bash gets all bonuses from riposte buffs and restores a shit ton of HP with executioner

always near 100% sync rate because piercing claw restores sync rate and vastly increases sync rate from attacking

always near 100% health

but dried all my items

Fuck the fire phase of the hunter leader guy.
Totally worth it.

And half the defenses of the other seals

AIs wanted to overcome evolution bottleneck for themselves.
They didn't care what happens to humans.
Arrisa chose humans.
Nothing surprising about them being pissed.

Here again, really looks like the only placement change in the patch is that single D4 in the Spirit Depths...

NTA, but I've only met Vikas on the rooftop, where is his second location supposed to be?

Near the train station leading to poisoned woods.
He's lying there in pool of his own blood with chopped of legs, asking you for mud balls.

If you block it doesn't matter.

What greedy little piglet.

Vikas is at Rooftop, then Flooded Streets near the train to withered forest, then in Withered Forest after the boss fight, then Cleansing Stairs, then make sure you talk to Sklarm twice, at cleansing stairs and at Faultage Corridor. Progress and meet Shirley in upper hagios patir, then go back to faultage corridor and Vikas is there near the branch. Then path epitome branch and again in last area before Loskid.

Stone can help you with Mutant Clergy fight

Kino

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One of three fights you get an npc helper.

with all the enemy and locale reuse at this point in the game, seeing a boss with a cool co-op mechanic like that was both unexpected really needed. what a cool idea

Anon you can see a path in the distance to a secret boss.

is that one fight against a giant 4-legged necro spamming flies and mobs also one of those? i accidentally walked into it when exploring a level and it boxed me into the arena, had to run like a bitch and use my homeward bone lol

What the fuck were they thinking with the placement for the starter longsword and dualblades if you didn't pick them.

The Dual Blades are REALLY close to the start, what's the problem :^)

No. No necro fights. The fight you just did is the first one. There is a later one with Feylia and another with Millaire. Millaire one is in an optional area.

Uhhh, so I killed Hunter of Bladers and apparently now I'm supposed to ride a train somewhere, but all further paths seem to be dead ends and I have no clue where to go. Am I retarded?

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your answer is in here

Yep. Sorry that you had to learn this now anon.

How does it run on deck

I assumed short girl would help us with one fight, I wonder who will be the third one
Indeed
I can't believe I missed it, thank you!

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what was that cutscene about with 3 halberd bladers fighting? i don't think i've encountered any of them. did i brick myself by going waaay further?

They are your past memories from when you were a guardian and Asteria tried to fix you.

underground shaft

Tree guardians.
Arrisa was one of them before she got 'reset' by Asteria.
The memories happen out of order.

Why are you retards just straight up spoiling? Kill yourselves really

oh, it's memories. those usually have a very obvious screen filter but i think it didn't render for me. or i'm blind

If you don’t want to know something don’t ask. Also I used spoiler tag.

I think I will finally buy this game today.
I need you guys to keep the threads going for another couple days.

sure. i'll just keep seething about how elden ring was a mistake and how because of it we have to deal with endless unreadable illogical attack patterns in every new soulslike

hell no.

every other posts ITT is spoiler, most without tags

game is out for almost 3 weeks

No one's going to tiptoe around your lazy ass retard.
Go finish the game instead of shitposting here, it's fucking short.

The sooner you finish the greater the chance it you'll still find normal discussion instead of fags bitching and moaning about why chink game with budget of 2 peanut bags doesn't have all the feature of all soulsborne and soulslike games at once.
Because we're getting there.

I tried it, the Demo kinda sucked. Mechs were a lot more janky than Khazan, and of all things they decided to show off a Sewer level.

and of all things they decided to show off a Sewer level.

What about the Blader fight?
They specifically unlocked weapons and skills and let you fight one of the tougher enemies.

Can I complain about stone's voice? Because it seemed very out of place and bad. I actually liked everyone else's so far

chinese in anime aesthetics sounds so fucking off

Go ahead. I'm not stopping anyone, just saying that amount of why-this-no-on-level-of-Elden-Ring type of posts is raising.

what did they mean by this

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Ursula puts her second sword away if you just fuck about

Wow, did not see this before...

I think I only ever saw her do that in my run where I poisoned her and then ran around dodging until it killed her.

During 1st phase she keeps switching between 1 and 2 swords repeatedly if you take your sweet time.

the only plant in existence just grew

I MUST TOUCH IT

I don't engage with media that uses AI.

he boughted

you didn't beat the game

True ASHEN ONE energy

You know she says this but the AI watched humanity for 1000 years basically tripping over themselves to die even before they actively fucked with things. I think they have a much better frame of reference for how retarded we are as a species. Not that the AI were too much better, their experiments for evolution were absolutely flawed.

That's a good thing, all bladers have red eyes

get created by humans

watch humans fuck themselves over

realize you can't grow up without humans

it's good they didn't have human emotions or they'd kill themselves from the shame

Long white hair

Based femininity enjoyer, Arrisa looks way better with long hair

based
all hot characters with short hair are hotter with long
see: teh rei

I am but i fear the little cute and funny girl will die

so take care of her anon

DRILL FISTS

Hell yeah

vikas should've died instead of charcoal

So I've decided to try Impact Drills for my second playthrough.

Super long R1 chain with no stagger

Final hit that does most of the damage is slower than many R2 hits. You have some armor, but any big enemy will smack you right out of it

Weapon skill provides fast interrupt, but many enemies will just dodge out of the drilling followup

What a horrible mess. It's like dual blades without anything that makes dual blades good. The only things that work properly is "parry and do full combo instead of riposte" or "parry, riposte and charge R2 afterwards".

don't get all emotional because of abomination created to murder humans

Lightning cluster or lightning hammer? I'm assuming neither of them are better than EX railgun

Dr.Adramelech please

Cluster is ass, I haven't tried hammer yet because I'm playing Khazan before doing another AI Limit playthrough.

To be honest even dual blades are only good for R1 chain and skills, that r2 is dogshit, charged in particular where you just spin for a second leaving yourself wide open for attacks

Dual blade swap attacks are very good for building sync and you can even get two bleed dual blades.

Hammer is pretty fun, she jumps and smacks with it for a small aoe.

I boughted the game today, I will play it after I finish CrossCode

What is the max SPIRIT for all spells and also good scaling for Holy Ritual?

fact: this tier list is objectively CORRECT

objectively

It's shit.

i used cluster on the hunter of blader fight and i destroyed her, so i didnt get to have a date with goat-chan

drills anywhere above F

necro weapons not in S collectively

serrated halberd not in S

Arbiter in S despite its retarded monumental windup

red deer over mercy

There has never been a good anime game english dub.

Purple long hair

Traveler's Coat

Mercy and Red Deer

Oh yeah, it's Sephiroth time.

red deet

Definitely better than Mercy. Its weapon skill is faster and deals only slightly less damage than Mercy's while having less windup time and can be used safely away from most enemies because of how far it moves you.

arbiter

You don't need to commit to the full weapon skill, bwo.

necro weapons

Piercing is only situationally useful. For most bosses, it's too little, too late. Though the stygian touch (necro claws) are kinda busted. Its weapon skill is lengthy enough that clergy seal's lightning hits twice during it, giving it the second most damaging weapon art just behind arbiter's. It also has 20 piercing, so it does build that up very quickly too.

that nightmare of an area after the Bishops

Please tell me I didn't miss anything by not jumping down in the room with the butterfly. I already went all the way down that other path with the three giant fuckers

she doesn't.

anything that isn't r1 spam, charged r2 oki and situational weapon skill for stagger/big damage is useless, this goes for all weapons
"but you can dodge under attacks with some-" cope, you just got lucky a few times.

too late already. Most of us have already finished the game and migrating to another slop.

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I think there is a codex there but otherwise it just loops back to that big audience room. You can access it from that room rather than run the long way around again.

this is true for most soulslikes

game is piss easy but you have to spam optimal moves and skills and everything else is useless

i hate 'souls professionals' so fucking much it's unreal

This is true for only a few souls games, namely DS3. The rest managed to accomodate extra attacks and r2 movesets nicely.

nope

Prove me wrong.

there's unoptimal moves and there's moves you can not possibly hope to land without getting hit in return/getting staggered out of them

Any way to add weapons with cheat engine? I'd love to make a full playthrough with red deer from zero.
NG+ is too easy

Just go full VIT with just enough stats to wield your weapon.
VIT is pretty much a dead stat after 40.

Can you just nuke Dike to death before she can regenerate the other Bishop? I fired one railgun and half her health was gone but I didn't have enough to fire another

Nah it's not just about the scaling. You have a fully upgraded weapon, you're overflowing with consumables, you have everything you'd ever need, the exploration loses its point, this is why ng+ that don't change the game in some way are pointless.

I’m not transgender so no.

That's what makes landing them anyway feel rewarding

She had the zoomies but did not drop any skills...

So all the robots just want to evolve and one of them said fuck it lets become fucked up zombies with swords for hands?

Is this game like dark souls in that if a weapon has fire damage i cant add my own fire damage to it
Or will I still be able to use infusion on it and actually increase the damage?

Nah, Bladers are mostly innocent in that their only given objective is to light up branches and are probably not interested in evolution. They are basically low rank workers that are far too below to give a shit about whatever the head is thinking.
Necros are creation of Nyx and seem to be able to corrupt mud organisms.

They are basically low rank workers

Failed the Charon Loredump

I must do a diving roll after every jump no matter how small it is. It is simply my nature

The organization behind Beeelzebub, Lilith and Adramelech is possibly one of the three largest families from old times before the apocalypse.
Those you find mentioned on various monuments scattered throughout the city.
One of those monuments mentions Mephisto Crowley, President of Crowley Space Systems Company.
His name kind of matches with the other demon themed code names.
His motto was: All strife is profitable.
Them building space stuff might suggest some people survived off planet.
Lots of assumptions there I know but at least some of it fits.

I kind of assume each of the families had a hand in the big AI thing because each of the three god AIs seem to resonate with one of the families mottos.

anything that isn't r1 spam, charged r2 oki

Nah, some enemies (esp. Necros) have long recovery after their full combo/big attack where you can reliably full charge heavy after a dodge to get guaranteed stagger into the rest of your combo.

Since I shat so much on Drills here's some upsides I've discovered after playing some more:

if you start with R2 or sprint R1 you skip one attack in the chain to get to your explosion faster

Charge R2 low profiles a lot of attacks

If you kill an enemy with initial weapon skill explosion manually switching target will track drilling followup onto the next one, usually interrupting him

Also, stagger isn't actually that bad, it seems only Necros and big church bots can tank them. You can stun lock fishermen, priests and even jetpack niggers.

NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DESTROY A BRANCH THEY ARE SUPER DUPER IMPORTANT WHY THE FUCK IS IT A STAFF

craaaawling in my skiiiiiin

i thought they would buff the mobs in ng+

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Millaire is too strong. She crystallized her own limbs to make them better magic focuses but crystalization fucks up the body but “lol I can just respawn once the issue gets too severe”.

Is this game worth it?

They did, it’s just not gigantic increase. I’d estimate most enemies and bosses saw about a 30-50% increase in hp.

the exploration is the best it's been since dark souls 1

What's your problem with drills?

Did anyone in the outer slums area right past the starting bridge jump down to the right to the lower platform as the first thing they did?

just beat Choirmaster. this game is REALLY easy. I thought the difficulty would spike cuz Cleansing Knight was so hard but i just spammed r1 and he kept staggering

No, I went around using elevator on the other end if you refer to the lower area with necros and fart-erfly.

cleansing knight is the hardest boss

I did like six runs and have no idea how this section is supposed to work.
The invisible wall preventing overshoots helps.

just beat Choirmaster. this game is REALLY easy

You killed him after he got hit with the nerf bat, did you really beat him?

I picked continue because of course I'm going to keep activating trees, how the fuck am I going to fast travel otherwise

Yeah that spot. I saw it and thought it didn’t look that far down and ran and jumped. Survived so I explored down there first.

so much better than khazan
normalfags play khazan because of super marketing and pretty graphics, then forget.
meanwhile more and more people are trying and enjoying AI Limit

TOTAL CHINA VICTORY

take your meds

im using a pirated version of the game so it's not nerfed

The only semi challenging fight in the game is Ursula. Even she falls apart once you figure out what moves you want to parry

World building is that good? I admit I miss the good feeling after discovering a shortcut in DS1.

no, worldbuilding is not as good as dark souls 1, that task is impossible. the levels are fun though and the world they're a part of is coherent, at least i didn't see any windmill elevators going into bowser's castles
and yes, a lot of shortcuts

and have no idea how this section is supposed to work.

You are supposed to enter through the big elevator.
At it's bottom there are 3 mooks doing some digging and their guard.
As you continue farther there's another sniper guarding a chest and bunch of other humans but they get destroyed by one big necro and 2 necro laser flies.
There's one more necro and crystal mud lake with a butterfly and some items.
You leave the area through ladder going up leading to sever.
Once you climb out of the sever you appear near that one shiny you saw on an elevated ledge when you went after the sniper in the tower topside.

You don't even need to parry. Piercing Claw turns her into a joke.

I like the game but this is a pure bullshit. DS1 had a network of interconnected locations and you had an ability to visit several different places from the start. Ai Limit is linear as fuck, there's only one true side area in the entire game.

oh i like how after Hagios Patir you go back to the sewers

i said "since dark souls 1", not "better than dark souls 1"

DS2 had a vastly superior world design. Hell, even Bloodborne had several side areas and better interconnectedness. You're full of bullshit.

DS2 had a vastly superior world design-

aaaand opinion ignored

where's the side area?

DS2 had a vastly superior world design.

Retard.

got filtered by Horsefuck Valley

Shithole poison forest
Not only DS2 had several areas for you to explore FROM THE START, it also allowed you to outright skip the entire first half of the game if you wanted. This is wayyy, WAYYY better than what AL has going for it. Even individual level design was better.

Last time you tried this everybody called you faggot, just take the L.

f-f-filtered

typical souls shiter cope mode

They do. Though in the early areas it's largely unnoticeable.
I first started noticing it once I hit the Cleansing Knight.

it also allowed you to outright skip the entire first half of the game

the best part about DS2 is that you can skip large parts of playing DS2

I see

i genuinely loved the exploration in this game despite it's linearity

Or you can use it to get endgame weapons faster and then explore the early game, but it's nice for you to acknowledge that DS2 does, in fact, have a better world design.

Yeah, I love the long elevator ride up from top of the giant windmill to the invisible volcano.
Top world design.

Yeah, I love the long elevator ride up from top of the giant windmill to the invisible volcano.

And here you have magical trains and portals just teleporting you huge distances away all the time.

but it's nice for you to acknowledge that DS2 does, in fact, have a better world design.

I was mocking it because its best feature is having to NOT play it, but I guess you need a certain level of delusion to pretend to like the game...

magical trains

Now you're just grasping at straws like a fucking retard.
Use the map if you got lost mate.

Arrisa is a mouthbreather

the fact you have so many options from minute one is AMAZING

you could theoretically kill Darklurker as your first boss

1. Farm up 1,000,000 soul memory
2. buy a fragrant branch of yore from malentia
3. buy the cat ring to jump into the pit
4. go to every location of Darkdiver Grandahl (Shaded Woods, Black Gulch, Castle)
5. do all the chasms
6. kill Darklurker

there, that's how open it is, I love that it's so non-linear even more-so than DS1 even if the world itself isn't as interconnected

I bought them immediately when I saw them because I thought it was going to be one big drill as a weapon
My disappointment was immeasurable

magical trains

when did peasants from the middle ages start posting on Anon Babble

I was mocking it because its best feature is having to NOT play it,

You're retarded if you don't understand that having sequence breaks this major is amazing for a game with huge replayability
They can draw whatever they want. The vast majority of locations are not even connected physically.

How kill Darklurker minute one?
How farm 1M souls in Things Betwixt to skip the game?

that's why i said theoretically

another thread ruined by DS2troons bringing their slop into discussion out of nowhere

Don't open your mouth about world design if you don't want to get fucked.

Because it's either incredibly tedious unfun busy work or an outright lie?
I see

get in

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Even if you just use the common 1m soul memory method, you can go to darklurker with only a few bosses. That's a damn good world design and i miss it.
Both LOTF 24 and AL were hailed for their world design, but they are nowhere near this level.

It's always the same exact shitposter that's in these threads despite not liking it

60 for scaling
Highest requirement is 45, IIRC

code vein

lost my save file

no automatic backups because pirated

well shit might aswell start again, only lost ~20 hours

found a bunch of hidden shit I missed on my first playthrough in places I probably never would've revisited otherwise

A blessing in disguise

I liked it

a great game no unlike this

ill buy it as soon as it has a japanese dub

CV is peak nostalgia game, played it yesterday and I don't remember it looking this bad or being so weightless

How does this game compare to code vein?

Absolutely. I annihilated her with Ethereal Beam

It also has a pipe

how's my stat spread? i'm a purely physical greatsworder and i'm just after Choirmaster back in the sewers. am I underleveled

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Game was made in Unity, not UE

Well that's a surprise.

Supposedly the purpose of the necros is to put pressure on the others to help move things along. I'm pretty sure Nyx just doesn't care all that much about the mission though.

I'd get enough spirit to use missiles and the buff spells.

Life to 50
Vitality is a dump stat
Spirit to 15
Tech to 11

Go to the withered forest and get the road sign. It’s the best strength scaling weapon.

how do i get upgrade materials I haven't found luminous carbons in forever

This got reposted by the official CEAsia account

If you’re past Choirmaster then you missed the item in the sunken city underground for the merchant upgrade.

I've not gotten to the sunken city i'm in the Sewers in the Sedimentation Tank after the leap of faith

Sunken City Underground is where you met the Doctor and his robot.

Sunken City is the fisherman town, anon

fuck where's the closest branch to this upgrade material thing

How long was your guys first playthroughs? or are the 10 hour playthroughs on YT accurate?

18 hours, they must be rushing

~20 hours, but I got REALLY lost a few times

Don't bother leveling VIT past 20. Greatswords have good sync gain per hit anyway, you can leave it at 12
If you're gonna level up LIFE go for at least 40, biggest HP gains are after 30.
Single extra points in SPR and TEC do nothing for you.

TL;DR swap 13 points from VIT, TEC and SPR to LIFE

About 25 hours but I got horribly stuck and spent hours on this one boss that appears twice.

21 hours but with some help from here, if you play like the devs intended fully blind with 2 NGs so you explore everything then obviously more

About 25ish hours or so?

disordered fetus

what do they taste like?

Good to know. Now I don't have to feel bad for looking

it's a good image

Mansion Ground Floor. You have to run all the way through to almost the next branch though. It’s in one of the trams that are hanging in the air. There’s a ladder around a corner near the guy that is sitting around near the long drop with nothing near him.

Just stole the screenshot walkthrough site.

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It's a bit like chicken with an aftertaste of mud

I just started NG+ and I’m seriously wondering if I got a different game than everyone else or people just rush like crazy. Didn’t struggle, no bosses took more than a few tries, no jumping puzzles filtered me, and I followed a guide to do everything in 1 playthrough so I never got lost or anything. Says it took me 71 hours.

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i missed that because I didn't realize you could jump to the next train. the jumping is very jank

feed the giant flesh pile

breaks down a wall

Stone is just standing there in a room that had no doors

How did he do it?

I followed the guide

Opinion IMMEDIATELY discarded

did you slow walk through everything?

Ceiling shortcut. There's holes everywhere

Did you AFK for entire days???

you do know there's a sprint button in the game, right?

Sorry I’m not replaying the game again because I didn’t talk to Sally Shitfucker three times at her hidden locations when nobody told me to.
I don’t think so but maybe??? It’s the only game I played for the past week and I did play a few hours every day and every night so I think at least 50 of that is real gameplay but I don’t know. You guys are making me doubt reality.

I hate this area so fucking much, Ursula was easier than this shit

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the only way to save the world is by putting your dick in a human shaped pile of mud

All the drops are in clear 90° angles.
Except one 45°

killing these bosses in a couple back to back combos in ng+ is kinda fun ngl

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Man fuck that one, I did like six times because I didn’t run EXACTLY off the corner so my character got pushed to the side

Cleansing Knight:

Is this “too easy” for you?

*one-shots you with the thunder of god*

I know but lately I am unlucky with anything parkour related and I keep failing, like I have died at least 15 times jumping down the bridges in Spirit Depths

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I dodged it first two times and then somehow died to it like 10 times in a row.

That's pretty embarrassing, but consider this hole.
I fell in it like three times

The Hagios stairs are evil incarnate.

OK so that number is just a lie I guess because the console says 20h which seems a lot more reasonable.

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FUCK THOSE STUPID BEAST MONSTERS WITH THE PILLARS THEY HAVE LIKE NO STAGGER AND UNLIMITED STAMINA

20 years of tracing on etch a sketch
someone seriously should tell devs to do this

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That's pretty embarrassing

I know and I am ashamed of myself considering that normally I don't have much trouble in platformers

spoiler

My condolences
I fell here once because I was dodging the enemy kek

just counter field them

they start doing fucking vault jump combos with them too later on, surprised they dont do fucking pole dances
see

21 hours, I missed a lot of stuff apparently too

using a guide on first playthrough

why would you do this to urself

Average number of times I fall in holes like this in these games because I’m in combat and distracted: less than one

Average number of times I fall in holes like this in these games because I died somewhere else and I’m just sprinting back: dozens

how should we surpass our ai limits

create religion

learn emotions

become nightmare monsters

let humans jizz in our mud holes

I have 22 hours and I still haven't finished it though I might have left the game in the background once for like 2-3 hours

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last one sounds really based

Mudbots were MADE for nakadashi

I want to fuck those clergy women though

TRIIIIIBUUUUTE

NTA but the powerpyx ones do a great job of succinctly summarizing what to do in each area so you don’t miss anything important like items or NPCs, without treating you like an idiot who’s never played a video game before. It’s also always fucking TEXT with images instead of a goddamn video. Generally what I’ll do is work my way through an area, get to the next bonfire, and then go check the walkthrough to see if I missed anything. Usually I didn’t but occasionally there’s some random pathway I didn’t see or NPC that I’m fucking blind and walked right past. I’m too old and have too many real responsibilities and demands on my time to feel any sense of pride and accomplishment that I successfully scraped every corner of the game and didn’t miss anything all on my own.

Grace

Did they hire the voice actors on fiverr?
Because they sound better than the usual bunch

guys... did I fuck up by dying to the hunter of blades?

No you get a cage date with goat-chan. Also can get the patient dress before end game.

30 hours. Did all content possible in one playthrough and often left the game running minimised because I couldn't be bothered to close it each time, so that definitely contributed.

i really hope they make a sequal for this
the developer is new and their publisher is really, really niche

like the publisher's last title was 'banner of the maid' a FFtactics-like game

so fingers crossed

Retard

If you used an NPC ally in any of the boss fights, you didn't beat the game, even for the 4v1

there is no blood or organs or anything you are a pile of mud shaped like a person how the fuck are you pregnant

i felt like it

What fight is that? if you are talking about the guardians, they die so fast how did you ever have more than two alive?

I'm surprised how much I like this game
Especially the level design
But it's hilarious how much it rips off From games. The first couple NPCs just say something vague and die when you come back

I lvl'd up to 9 Holy Ritual and it's not that good. I make more damage against some enemies, but lower against others. Tested with 50spirit vs my forged steel blade with 50str. What makes some anons say that its OP?

Weapon skill plus using spells.

It's the best weapon that scales with spirit but spirit weapons are all kinda dogshit but you need something to hit with to recover sync.

It's MLGS of this game. A melee weapon that also scales with a caster stat. You can use spells against enemies resistant to lighting damage.

Can I finally get a fucking heal upgrade? I'm at the 5th stage, it's taking me all my heal things to fill HP bar. No hate to the game, but is this a joke?

explore and kill the wildlife aka butterflies and snails faggot, you get an upgrade in the desert level

Why the hell is the ice sword not a spirit weapon

Where are you at? Fifth stage as in where? Withered Forest? Sunken City Underground? There’s one healing dew upgrade in the tutorial sewers, one in the desert slum area, one in the sunken city roofs.

What's more OP, spirit or strength?

because ice is not a spell in this game

these threads seems to dying, as typical for a ftm, But before it collapses, any titling, character-action anime games other than scarlet nexus and code vein?

I won't touch jrpgs because another Anon Babbletard recommended his shitty hyperdemensional neptunia

No fucking way I missed something... Thanks for the info
Second sunken city underground, yeah

Spirit once you get the sequel to railgun

Anon, nobody is going to deny this. We've all seen her.

cant change underwear color

trash game

If you’ve been to the withered forest, then you should have 4 healing upgrades. If you are in Sunken City Underground you should have 6 total heals too.

gives you a new seal

tells you to go put it on

go back to show her I did so

she's completely gone

why was she like this? I don't even remember her name

Did I fuck up leveling up that first spear you get? Should I just be using the great sword?

Serrated Halbred? It’s honestly one of the best weapons.

No fucking way. It would be so much easier. How did I miss them... I literally been walking through every corner and only found outfits and swords I don't need. Thanks, anon, gonna backtrack and search better

Serrated Halbred

Yep, nice

Just to be clear here. The sixth heal is near the start of sunken city underground. So depending on how far you’ve gotten. If you only just entered then might not have reached it but it’s close to the start.

let humans jizz in our mud holes

Flawless plan executed to perfection

Are there any actual maids in that?

find her again

first assumption is that Arrisa is autistic enough to chase after her

she is

Fail-chan is a mysterious creature with an entire collection of Loskid Funko Pops.

It's fucking retarded that the scythe is not a spirit weapon. It's not the best in any niche, having a function of early game spirit weapon would've salvaged it

Where do you get this? I think I missed it in my playthrough or forgot and sold it.

But the scythe is already after Holy Ritual.

Scaling in this game is dogshit, you can do both at once. At the very least get 25 STR and 32 spirit, now you're a STR build with ex railgun.

I’m pretty sure it’s in a room filled with crates to destroy in the sewer tutorial area.

I'm at the blader hunter thing, lost to him like 50 times. At this point I started thinking maybe I can actually upgrade my heal

It's easily in the top 3 of the weapons in the entire game. It's better than the final boss weapon.

Tutorial area.
Remember the Branch by the big robot? Go through the doorway nearby, but turn left and break the boxes and barrier. It's down the ladder.

Wait if you’re at Hunter of Bladers then you should have collected 4 soil samples and 5 dew essence for healing upgrades.

I was so convinced the rusty sword would turn into a god weapon.

Sorry anon
That's the pipe

So the problem is not skill issue, thank god. Still can't find anything though. How big are those snails?

The size of a tractor wheel
And hostile

Do you think Ursula was aware that she gave birth to Shirley? Stone found and gave her unconscious to the doctor with the baby in her so who knows if she was even aware when Shirley was “born”.

If you’ve see big gray crystals, then you are usually always near a snail/butterfly.

I might actually be blind. No way I missed something this big.
Thanks for the info anyway, that hunter is gonna get his ass kicked the next time I come
This will help a lot, thanks

It is skill issue, the first off-road desert path gives you a butterfly to kill that drops you a pot upgrade.
Game actually teaches you pretty well, snail in tutorial zone then in the first real zone the butterfly

Probably not, the Doctor likely ensnared her with a necro spell asap.
Though we really have no way of knowing.

Then again, Shirley had to have gotten that doll from somewhere. And I don't see Adremalech stitching it together for her.

Wait, there's a snail in the tutorial area? I thought my exploration was pretty thorough, how did I miss it?

Yes. Remember the first idea he has is using her as a hostage, which he was correctly warned against doing.

He probably put a tracking device in it.

I thought my exploration was good but I never found the spear in tutorial

found the snail

found the spear

found the butterfly

Sell me on it

FUCK THE HUNTER OF BLADERS PHASE 2
what a GARBAGE fight.

It has old school Dark Souls level design where you can make a loop and find a door that leads to a previous bonfire creating a shortcut

I thought my exploration was pretty thorough,

Not thorough enough to find the basic upgrade in the tutorial stage. And no, it's not some secret area where you need to find a double elevator or an illusory wall, just be careful to check all the forks.

using EX-Railgun

Game status: not beaten

Good level design with lots of secrets and interconnections, nice controls, simple but enjoyable and well-balanced combat system, great atmosphere, cute autistic MC.
Just don't expect Elden Ring level amounts of content, it's a small game from 20 chinese dudes with no experience in game development.

EX-Railguns your boipucci

Anal virginity status: lost

Investing the amount of skill points needed to use EX-R into HP will make the game 5 times easier.

Finished in about 20 hours, I did somewhat use a guide for the true ending and still missed out on a few pieces of equipment.

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what are you trying to grab bro?

conceal the truth

But then you can’t use ex railgun.

And you don't have to. By the time you get ex railgun the game is effectively over anyway.

My wife referenced in this game's title, though she isn't the MC IIRC
"The Maid" refers to the "Maid of Heaven", otherwise known as St. Jeanne d'Arc, the Maiden of Orleans.

Well, she could still dress up as a maid, Arrisa did it

Piercing Claws

Piercing Greatsword

Its cringelord time.

>save file got corrupted

???
Plus I'm pretty sure the game makes backups in th appdata folder

Careful. All bladers are chuuni but overdosing causes them to be lost

I wonder what even happened to that Blader that became full Void

What's the reason for every corrupted blader fight having an instance of the Blader non-corrupted somewhere nearby? And why does the Blader disappear in some cases (like the dual daggers one near the branch in the sewers) but not in others (dreadlocks in the woods)? Are the corrupted actually just Necro recreations of the original or something?

they respawn at the branch they last linked, just like you
sometimes it can be far away

probably just a bug lol

Got stuck platforming down the pipe, but was too stubborn to quit, maybe knew what was down there. Look at how acrobatic she is in the fight, either she got a lot of practice, or being that over the top is why she kept bungling her jumps. Though I wonder, she's using a non-corrupted weapon while her body's fully corrupted, the other corrupted Bladers aren't visibly corrupted, but their weapons are. How'd her sword stay pure?

This Loskid fight really kills any enjoyment I had with the game.
Non-stop frame traps, roll catches, and animation cancels. All the types of dirty shit that made nu-From games so aggravating.
Studios really need to rethink how this genre should work, or just stop making Soulslikes altogether.

Just use thunderstep with a fast weapon like dual blades and rape her. Mash attack, when you see her move step, repeat until she's dead
They specifically put that skill in for people who don't like parrying

She sacrificed herself for her sword.

Getting mad about the best boss in the game

Eh?

But they're calm and capable of speech. Respawning wouldn't make them stop being feral, would it?

You forgot to add your infamous catch phrase "I've beaten all the souls games and this is just unacceptable" and then talk about anime combos or whatever. KEK

Sorry but you're unironically just fucking bad at video games. Elden Ring was extremely hard for me and I sometimes spent 2-3 days on bosses like Malenia so I'm not that good myself but I beat Loskid in 4 tries. It was a super fun, super spectacular and very fair fight, almost like a dance. I can't imagine what anyone could complain about here.

is this the first soulslike where other characters in a situation similar to yours can respawn on death and are fully aware of it and can take advantage of it? no spoilers but that moment was kinda neat. even in the best souls game (ds1) they just die forever if you kill them for no apparent reason

see, i'm ready to forgive this kind of shit because it's not fromsoft and they never had weighty knight combat in the previous games
i don't particularly like it, but i'm fine with a boss taking a few tries. really hate when regular mobs pull this kind of shit though (looking at you, the whole necros faction)

Yeah I'm just frustrated because I'm a crusty boomer who just likes the way these games used to play before DS3, but more specifically Elden Ring.
I dunno, like the fact that Souls and Soulslikes are now using terminology from fighting games just bothers me. I think that's a clear problem the genre has, but I also recognize I'm in the minority opinion here.

Code Vein
Lords of the Fallen (the new one)
Just off the top of my head.

I feel you. I already had my issues with DS3 when enemies spammed attacks non-stop as if they had infinite stamina (try just circling around the big cathedral knights without killing them - they just don't stop swinging their huge weapons), but I absolutely HATED all the delayed shit in ER that makes 0 sense in a combat context that forced you to memorize every enemy's pattern. Combined with the terrible open world, I dropped that turd quick out of boredom and tedium

That's the problem with you fucking fromdrones - you refuse to accept any changes and new mechanics in souls-like games, you don't want to learn and you don't want to accept new rules, anything slightly different from beating up a helpless slow dummy is "bad design" for you.
This game is souls-like indeed but it's not fucking Dark Souls, your character is super-strong, super-fast and mobile, has a built-in overpowered parry and a whole arsenal of destructive moves, you can move faster than any boss and absolutely annihilate them. The balance here has nothing to do with Elden Ring and DS3 because you are much, much stronger than any boss.
But you just refuse to learn how to use new mechanics. You want to press the roll button and then poke the boss with a light attack, and repeat this for 50 hours straight.

then go put on giant dad 99999 Poise build and just w+m1 through dark souls 1 for the millionth time. you don't need good reflexes for any of these games. you're a fake boomer.

But you just refuse to learn how to use new mechanics

nta but what new mechanics? the parry isn't new. the shield is now new. hurting yourself to have phantom hits is kinda new, and perfect dodging to deal lightning damage is new. everything else, besides spells and weapon arts, which aren't new either, is roll r1 spam indeed

Arrisa's game is fun but now I need Code Vein 2 even more than I previously needed it.

I need Arrisa's game 2 more then Code Vein 2

Bro, your Sync Rate??
In all seriousness, people don't use skills or spells nearly enough.

sync rate (and ichor in CV) changes the way you approach routing the stages compared to limited spells/mana bars but not the way you fight the enemies
i use skills and spells, but it's not different from using them in ds3/er

trying to go Technique

every single weapon I've found besides the pipe needs some Strength to wield

Do I need to put a few token points into str or will some more tech weapons show up soon? I'm in the Sunken City and just found Materialism

Mater-
Oh
A few boss weapons have high Tech scaling.

Runs at 30 fps on my 1080ti. Grim.

Well, it's only 12 to wield. I guess I can spare 2 levels in str.

bladers can get pregnant

They don't seem to be very interested in being bred by human men.

On Dark Souls you just "desync" them from your world if the other guy is also an undead/unkindled/tarnished with grace.

Is this Not Code Vein™ 2?

This is why only Ursula was a success. All the other girls became femcels.

Nah, too different. But it's clearly inspired by Code Vein.

IMPREGNATING URSULA A SECOND TIME

I only had around 13 Strength by the end of the game, and could wield every weapon that scaled better with Technique. If you're wondering if it's worth nominally investing in for something like the Bonecrackers, then I'd go for it.

These two fuckers are the REAL final boss of the game. Even on my second run, those fucking beams killed me eight times even with what I thought was the perfect angle with a lightning backstep. They REALLY do not need to be half the width of every other beam.

Delpha...

I played Khazan instead

I actually don't think I ever died to the platforming here.

And that's why they are evolutionary dead ends. Most of them are braindead, only a few remain, tree network is probably offline once ai fucks off, so there's a dozen of highly autistic girl running around and probably killing themselves because they don't realize their immortality is gone.

M+KB or gamepad?
I'm playing with a gamepad because I do not like playing souls games without analog movement.

PS5 controller.

Wasn't this game just made by DeepSeek? I'm not playing that shit.

Xbox here. Dunno, I seem to always clip the girder slightly to the side and fall to my death.

For the necro infested ones it purges them of the problem since whatever was taking control isn't part of their normal form. For the others respawning still probably helps them cool down to a degree. If they were completely unsalvageable they'd be like Lore.
The doc managing to fuck with Ursula's link to make it so it considered the necro parts normal is why she couldn't just respawn to fix the problem.

There's nothing to indicate that the tree network goes offline. It's seems to be largely autonomous so disabling it would require the slightest bit of effort in cleaning up, which they explicitly don't do.

I wouldn't be able to tell you. I even did the jumping stuff quite a few times

So all the lost bladers just need some dick to feel better?

The Lost Blader is essentially a Void Beast, so good luck with that.

What exactly are The Fools/Blessed Ones? I read all the Prometheus docs and don't get it. It's not the pilgrims, the Fools inhabit their bodies after they're vacated, so what? Church brand Blader knockoffs?

where should we put the starter dual swords for the people that didn't pick them

just put them near the start of the game silly

I want to try out spirit on NG+ so I can actually use spells. Should I go with Arbiter or Holy Ritual as a spirit weapon?

Someone has to do it

zanzibart forgive me...

I hope a sequel goes more into the void creatures since everything seems to stem from them. It would make sense too since it seems that bladers devolve back into base void beasts, I imagine church bots and necros would too with the AI not around to give them commands.

Is this worth pirating?

its over

feel like sprinting and turning the camera at the same time feels like ass

trying to figure out why

finally realized it's probably because the camera is slow as shit

max out the camera speed in the options

it's still just as slow

anyone else have this issue? From testing it seems like it occasionally moves at the full speed it should but it mostly is slow. I'm holding the right stick at 100% for this whole webm with camera speed set to 10 for both X and Y.
Luckily steam is pretty robust and it seems easy enough to map my right analog stick to mouse movement which actually moves at a decent speed. But I shouldn't have to do that.

no
it's worth buying

Well, the final one in Sewer Town Center is anyway. Didn't find it spawning as an NPC afterwards either, so maybe they stay dead permanently at that point.

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I've been playing this game with stellar blade and nier music please tell me im not the only one.

So the church puts pilgrims souls in the matrix except the matrix sucks even worse than the real world?

I've been listening to videos about theology, desu

This is definitely the worst souls clone on my memory in terms of how nonsensical, unpredictable and arbitrary animations are. A shame, because it seems to be very well made otherwise.

What is the mc never talked to Shirley? How would she addressed herself when meeting other characters?

guy who just got killed by the elite necro in front of the tree after the pilgrim camp

If you buy it for me sure, otherwise stop shilling it

I'm pretty sure you have to talk to her, otherwise the guard won't let you leave the camp.

I recall Ethereal Beam was bugged so that sometimes it doesn't activate at all.
Does that still happen or has it been fixed?

It's a bug, go back to the main menu then reload.

it synergizes well with clergy seal because it deals electric damage at base, so you can braindead spam its weapon skill because of how much sync you recover

lmao

STOP TALKING ABOUT NEW GAMES ONLY GET MAD ABOUT WOKE

Fuck off and die

oh
that's good to know

I haven't encountered it again so far.

Yeah, it's one of the few mandatory conversations.

Do you guys pick outfits for the stats or just the looks?

Just the looks, of course.

I didn't even really look at the stats on outfits except to try to wear the one with the most poison resist in the poison shithole, which didn't seem to do anything significant anyway
I wore the raincoat for like 90% of the game.

Does talking to the lady by the +10 weapon upgrade material after jumping out of the church elevator early serve any purpose or is it just to meet to her before you fight her?

hey that's you

goat

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Yay, for fanart.
The latter.

how's the dub

So did she actually give up and be turned into a guardian or did she intrude on the tree and be recycled for the offense?

gets the patient's gown

the most titaling outfit thus far

titling run animation

i now remember why nier automata was based

holy shit, this game is leagues better than codeveins in-your-face pole-dancing boss

A mixed bag. Some of it's quite good, some of it's awful.

The protagonist sounds autistic and other female characters sounds like typical english speaking vtubers

Terrible and not in a funny English dub you hear in a old kung fu movie way.

do you like american dubs from 08' to 14'

its not as cringe as 4kids but the writing is not Joss Weadonized. The tone is there but only the tone

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chink dub is better

The protagonist is autistic so that fits.

It's good enough for what it is if you don't want to listen to chinkanese

mostly decent in a low budget kinda way
Main character does her job as a cute barely vocal autist well
Secondary characters with larger roles are very good to okay, nothing standout but there's some effective performances and whoever was in charge of voice direction knew what they wanted. Almost always handles the scene well. I think the goat does her job well but that's probably not something everyone agrees on, it is a pretty normal "vtuber-ish" voice but it fits the character and she doesn't push it too hard or feel like she's not trying hard enough, it doesn't feel like she was trying to do a gimmick.
There's a couple specific female characters that try and do an emotionless superior-being thing that doesn't work at all though.

just starting
anything you wish you knew starting out?

EXPLORE EVERYTHING

parrylets will be punished at the same time, the game is not sekiro difficulty of parry

also look at the enviroments

Is Vikas supposed to appear in the long hallway before the giant portal after the final spot with Shirley? I saw him by one of the earlier portals and he was just being a little bitch.

After the portal, before the blue midget.

that wasn't so bad

thanks anon

press the wrong button combination in the middle of heated fight

your guard button becomes kill yourself button

thank you xi jinping, very cool

Do the swamp before the cathedral.

I have literally never changed my arm skill by accident.

i do this all the time and i have literally no idea how. i wish i could just unequip piercing claw because i never use it anyway.

Make sure you explore everywhere. And I mean everywhere. There are some very non-obvious places.
Use your defensive abilities correctly. There are three of them, and they all have correct places to use them.
Invest in HP if you're having problems. You should probably have at least 23 invested points above base in HP by the end of the game.
Yeaaaaah. That happens to me now and then.

first boss was pretty fun
out of heals

i kinda like the protag voice ngl

thanks anons
is the jump useful for exploration?

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is the jump useful for exploration?

yes. it feels really janky, but i never fucked up a jump. its way more consistent than the dark souls jump.

Define "useful"
It kind of sucks, but it's mandatory for exploration later.

it's useful in the places where they put a gap you need to jump across, it's not like open world style exploration if that's what you're expecting

holy shit she's cute

Any more zanzibart moments?

Shirley is a good girl.
Anyways, done with my second run and got the true end. Really, both last bosses are genuine visual spectacles. Charon's attack after two swords killed me the first time since I didn't step on any holes my first attempt. Really silly evasion method, that.
Anyways, NG+ feels less like a souls-like and more like an ARPG since you're OP at that point.

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select weapon

just to confirm, i'm not stuck with these for the rest of the game or for a really long time at least, right?

You'll replace it eventually, but choose wisely because that's the best weapon you'll have for a while. It doesn't really matter early game but greatswords are too fucking slow for lategame in my opinion.

no you arent stuck with them. just pick the stat bonuses you want. about halfway through the game youll be able to respec infinitely for free.

Yeah
You'll eventually find all of them again

It's weird that you gotta go to the menu to change spells but you can switch the gimmick stuff in real time

i beat the whole game only using greatswords/polearms and had little issue. theyre basically the same speed as the longsword moveset but with more reach, and i believe more stagger.

How does the final area work if you dont do all the sideshit and find the tree? Does the portal just appear behind the church girl after beating her?

It appears there too regardless technically.

It appears behind the church girl. The tree is empty (Charon fucked off because you're unworthy) and there's no portal there.

imagine if she was your mother

strong

smart

good fashion sense

hot

immortal

and she strikes me as the overprotective type. that'd be such a hassle amiright haha

costs 10% to parry

what do you mean i can't just spam the parry button like sekiro

sorry anon, you'll actually have to play the game. you get a seal that removes the cost later on

There's a seal to remove the cost.

Risk/reward tradeoff. Use parry when you know you can land it, dodge when you're not 100% sure. All three of the defensive abilities have tradeoffs.
This game rewards you for playing semi-aggressively and not patiently standing around.

in exchange they instantly let you crit most enemies and even the couple that don't get instantly staggered by a single parry get absolutely shut down by a few in a row
and the couple free normal attacks and the crit give you like 60% sync back so they're massively resource positive if you land them

get to purple place in church

5 fps

Goddamn I guess its trainer time until I leave this area
Idk how the game has kept a constant 60fps no drops at all until this place

I don't understand how you people are having problems with framerate. Are you running in 4K with MSAA or something? I'm running at 2560x1080 on a Radeon 6800 XT and it hasn't gone below 60 for me. I mean, it has dips, but not THAT bad.

I lock mine at 60 and it hasnt dipped ONCE in my 30+ hours. But this purple area is tanking shit hard. I have no clue why. Havnt changed settings or nothing

nta but i'm running 4k smaa on high, 3090 and it's fine. and that's a five year old card. the game has steam deck settings too, so everyone should be able to find good settings

By "dip" I mean dip to 60. I'm running with framelimits off and vsync.

Yeah I own a deck and tried it there too. Choppy af still
I keep mine locked to 60

how is the halberd moveset
wish i could equip it at least to check

S I N K

Similar to greatsword, but with more pokes.

possibly the best overall in the game, kinda like a bit faster greatsword with a couple pokes and a really really strong forward moving sweep skill

The cleric dress is extremely slutty, too bad isn't she doesnt wear it nopan like the church fembots.

are there invisible walls

No.

yeah but they're pretty forgiveable mostly, the game uses a lot of debris and junk to clearly mark where the boundaries of the map are and in a few places it maybe looks like you could jump over if you get the right angle but there's an invisible wall stopping you. It's not an open world game where they randomly cut you off from certain directions, the play area is well defined.

There are kill planes when you fall in places where you're not supposed to be, but I can't recall seeing any true invisible walls anywhere

i meant
are there secret passages that look like invisible walls
like in das1 where you attack them
or das2 where you press a on them

no, but there's stuff hidden behind destructible clutter decently often

I think you meant invincible

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weapon upgrades

is it a waste to use them on early weapons?
in the fromsoft games you could use the longsword/mace/etc all the way to end game. but in many other games you get weapons that are just straight better

No, but they are just boring.
Use the chuuni weapons like the scythe or the claws.

Only the rusted longsword is noticably weaker, you can also upgrade the rooftop merchant by finding certain items so that he sells upgrade items up to +9.