White is evil, disgusting, filthy, scary, unholy, defiled, subhuman

This the other abstract xiv thread?
You probably won't get much in this one

Why do the japs hate the church so much?

Light and dark in FF are just yin-yang (This is explicitly the case in XIV where light is stasis and stabilizing where dark is chaotic and growing), you need both and doing only one is where things go bad

The western view of light as divinity isn't contradicted by this point, as God is totality and includes all these aspects in His creation

Not always. There are a handful of manga which depict church as the good guys. On a meta perspective, church usually a shelter for pedophiles, rapists, creeps and other form of depravity. It is super common for priests to be pedophiles. "Le evil church" is something based on reality, but just like everything remotely realistic, it gets annoying to see all the time in fiction.

This is explicitly the case in XIV where light is stasis and stabilizing where dark is chaotic and growing), you need both and doing only one is where things go bad

This was a plot point plagiarized from a prior DQX expansion

A lot of the cults they hate there are based on Christianity.

Because they have no instinct taught from Christian indoctrination. Although if anything, it's a mix of both as they just don't give a fuck about religion one way or another. It's just a backdrop or plot device to be used in a story. See: all the billion isekai and fantasy games where the Church is the backbone of human society, tied to guilds, classless (healers), the state, etc etc

religion is bad unless it's shinto

mistaking a truism for a trope

I think it's the cool factor, bc japs love tossing around Christian related words and themes without knowing fuck all about it, which actually makes it cooler than what western devs make out of religion, which is usually strict creatively bankrupt adherence to real life Christianity. Adam and Eve interpreted to be two gay fuckboys in Nier automata, random words thrown around in F14 such as Pandora's box, Garden of Eden, the whole FF series in general having random references to names in Abrahamic religion, Granblue Fantasy, the list goes on. It's the "chuunibyou" factor they add to religion which makes it feel good. Coolest western game that makes use of religion is probably Binding of Isaac, very religiously grounded game that still takes liberties to make it cool.

She wrote the very opposite statement in The Wizard of Earthsea when the white girl was trying to brainwash Ged into liberating a great force of evil with arguments such as "light is actually darkness" - no, darkness is darkness.

defiles le shinto shrine

nips up in arms

You might be right about this.

Immigrants bring their customs and beliefs and scour the places they infest of their local values and customs. You either believe this equally for all cases, or you don't.

Whites brought The Church with them to every corner of the earth and did this. The cultures that survived are going to view you as the invasive vermin you are.

Enjoy the transition sister!

t. the priestess girl at the local chapel

Isn't one of the most popular JRPG series a shining example of this being dragon quest?

Or Monster Hunter, ish, but now we're more about preserving ecology and tiptoeing around local brownies more than bringing civilization to the untamed savage world.

dark is holy, warm, pure, uplifting, healing, the last semblance of humanity

what the fuck game uses this at all?

WW2 and the changes it wrought upon Japanese culture.
They got buttfucked by Christianity, and then as a nation had to denounce their living Godhead as false divinity. And then the US meddled around with Japanese law and culture, handpuppetting shit around. Thats simplifying it, but WW2 had a huge ripple effect on Japanese culture.
There's a youtube documentary about why we always kill God in games, that lays shit out pretty nicely. Drawing a line from WW2 to games today.

YESSSS Queen Slay!

There's a youtube documentary about why we always kill God in games

You mean your channel that you shill here every time this dogshit thread is made? The video filled with misinformation?

if someone ever mentions a video they are the creator of that video

Man, you are paranoid. lmfao

Find one where the church is GOOD for once.

Dragon Quest games

his jap games can't be dei AND church-loving

west > east confirmed

getting fucked in your ass isnt an accomplishment

its an asscomplishment

I mean the ascians are in all black I thought

Nta but it absolutely is, you useful retard.

Blacks are devout christians, didn't you know

We are all in a cult one way or the other tardo.

Warcraft used to be the center of hot babes and manly men. What happened?

Shinto is a disparate collection of folk beliefs. There is no pope of Shinto, there are no Shinto indulgences, there are no Shinto summer camps where Shinto youth pastors diddle children wearing Shinto purity rings. The most Shinto asks of you is to take a shower and don't scream like a sperg inside of a temple.

Yes, you got it. The whole point of Shadowbringers is that your empathy for the First is being translated into empathy for the Ascians and what they went through with the destruction of their world.

What happened?

We allowed women to vote and trannies to live

turn on netflix

I can feel empathy and not go straight down to sucking Hitler-but-sad-and-hot's dick for several content patches

Japs love their Buddhism and Buddhism has all of the following including diddlers.

because abrahamic religions are all whiny and annoying as fuck

AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T WORSHIP YOUR GOD YOU CAN ONLY WORSHIP OUR GOD AIIIIIIIEEEE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING YOU CAN'T HECKIN HAVE SEXERINO OR DRINK ALCOHOL THAT'S A SIIIIIINNNNNN *starts shitting pants from pure rage* YOU HAVE TO LIVE LIFE OUR WAY BECAUSE... BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO, OKAY?! WE HECKIN LOVE PEACE AND TOLERANCE *invades/infiltrates/bombs your country*

Most Japanese traditionalists are anti-buddhist though.

Can say that about Blizzard as a whole. They used to be the pinnacle of games and gaming culture. At least their cutscenes still look tight as fuck

You mean from Final Fantasy III (1990)?

Dark Souls

Japan loves this particular plot point. It's in a shitload of Jap fantasy.

Dark Souls has the gods and their light being rigid traditionalists opposed by the rampant chaos of the Abyss

Soul Calibur has the Chaos of the Soul Edge opposed by the Order of the Soul Calibur, which just wants to place everything into unchanging stasis to avoid all chaos

FE three houses.

Dark Souls darkness isn't chaos, it's quiet and stillness.

hello saar

No fire is all of those things. Darkness in Dark Souls is the languid state of the world before there was light and warmth and lightning and shit. Just rocks and dragons.

Actraiser
Confucius my beloved

It wasn't about being traditionalist and opposed to chaos. It was a matter of survival because the gods feared the potential of the dark soul and that dark was the antithesis to the sun/light.

No, the state of the world before the fire was gray. Darkness exists because light/fire came into being and is its opposite. It's the state of rest in the cycle.

(...) "And you came to Osskil, and on the moors you tried to fight a
shadow with your wooden staff; and almost we could not
save you, for that thing that follows you is more cunning
than we deemed, and had taken much strength from you
already... Only shadow can fight shadow." (...)

Shaken and tormented, he did not answer. She held his
hand now in both of hers, looking into his face. The sun had
fallen into the mists that dulled the horizon, and the air too
had grown dull, but her face grew bright with praise and
triumph as she watched him and saw his will shaken within
him. Softly she whispered, "You will be mightier than all
men, a king among men. You will rule, and I will rule with
you-"
Suddenly Ged stood up, and one step forward took him
where he could see, just around the curve of the long room's
wall, beside the door, the Lord of the Terrenon who stood
listening and smiling a little.
Ged's eyes cleared, and his mind. He looked down at
Serret. "It is light that defeats the dark," he said
stammering,- "light."

(...) He had not consented. It is
very hard for evil to take hold of the unconsenting soul.

Tesleen deserved for it being empathetic towards a little shit who didn't deserve it.

Yeah, but the point is that the gods and the fire represent the current state of things (and thus order), and the abyss/humanity/Dark Soul represents embracing change and a new age starting. It's not literal Chaos like the demons and all, but it's change.

tfw little eric is still mindbroken

japs are doing muh churcherino is le bad

There's like 5 games in 3 decades that do this and 3 of them are from the same series.
You guys are completely mindbroken.

And what of the Furtive Pygmy, the one so easily forgotten?

devil may cry

fate series

japs are some of the biggest satan worshippers

Which country still hasn't legalized gay marriage again?

Most African countries, all Middle eastern nations, and most Asian countries.

Yeah, the constant church-is-evil stereotype in American media totally isn't part of a century long effort to destabilize society and facilitate the glorious socialist revolution, you schizo chuds!

It's more complicated than that

Christcucks sure are high and mighty for being goylems

Shadowbringers is still based. Basically teaches you that constant LIGHT is a fucking horrifying thing to happen to a planet and a person.

Those rules are there for a reason you fucking retard. Look at the state of our Godless society.

Turns light into just another element

It's not holy or divine or anything, it's just white colored magic

But actually it light-aspected beings look angelic for some reason lol

Shadowbringers butchered the Light. Turning it into just another element wa sthe lamest and gayest decision, on par with Blizzard doing basically the same thing in WoW's universe. If Light in a fantasy setting isn't divine or anything that's it's just golden magic and is utterly meaningless. I reject this kind of gay subversion. I want my light to be holy and good, I want my priests and paladins to be casting powers of of the divine, drawn from god himself, that only the righteous (or at least those who believe themselves to be righteous) can wield. A power that heals the benevolent, but smites wicked, unholy beings such as demons and the undead,

Japan of course doesn't understand this kind of theme because they never had christian values, so they must always subvert and pervert the concept of the Light in every fantasy setting they create.

This, I've always said that japs have the coolest interpretation of abrahamic mythology in their fiction, they don't give much of a shit about what any of it means if it looks and sounds cool as fuck.

creepy, I like it

Shadowbringers didn't do that. That's how the lore was from the foundation of the game in 1.0, when they simply called it Astral and Umbral. Also FFXI (made in Japan) treats all the elements as divine, but Light and Darkness above all, with Light being the element of Altana, the goddess of creation and birth and the original humans descended from Paradise originally having souls formed of pure Light (made in Japan).

I hate this change... I miss feeling like I was on a genuine battle for survival of my species, or a work-for-hire hunter pushing back against the untamed wild

This board loves fantasy subversion when it comes from Japan but the moment anything from the US and affiliates do it they screech. Why is that?

I dunno, lol

Japan doesn't do it as part of the Marxist war of position. They don't do it because they intend to change the culture; they do it because they think it's edgy and/or cool.

So kinda like how the pedotrannies here spam loli because they think it makes them edgy and/or cool?

Xianxia has this in some regards. Excessive yang can be very domineering, violent, and oppressive. Essential yin is nurturing, calm, motherly, and so forth. It's picking and choosing though, as essential yang is also positive factors, and excessive yin can be stereotypical evil as well.

a senior dev got caught buttplugging a tranny and others drinking mommies milkies, so they've been overcorrecting and sanitizing the game since mid Shadowlands

Art imitates the biased opinions of authors.
Various studies and meta studies, which compare many studies, find that religiosity corresponds with positive behavior and aversion to war.

Across 59 countries, frequency of prayer, importance of religion and God were negatively related to justification of violence

More Religion, Less Justification for Violence - A Cross-National Analysis

Christianity negatively correlates with armed conflict, Buddhism has no correlation positive or negative, & Islam positively correlates (no surprise)

Influence of Religion on Interstate Armed Conflict

Priming of intrinsic religiosity decreased intergroup hostility under moral salience

Intrinsic religiosity reduces intergroup hostility under moral salience

Religiously affiliation is negatively correlated with willingness to fight

Territorial disputes and individual willingness to fight. Journal of Peace research.

Of 1763 historical conflicts, only 122(6.9%) are classified as Religious.

Counting ‘Religious Wars’ in the Encyclopedia of Wars

The factors associated with hostility:

Social Identity

Coalitional Commitment

Dogmatism

Moral Certainty

Binding Motivations

Obedience to Authority

Are all symptoms of human psychology in general. People found no less justification for violence and war in the secular than the religious

The regimes Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung were not religious, and yet they resulted in some of the greatest death tolls in human history.

Religious hypocrites are what studies classify as “extrinsically religious”, i.e. those who use it as a means to an end rather than holding to its core tenets. Regarding them:
Extrinsically Religious people are more likely to commit negative actions.
Intrinsically Religiosity, tends to correlate with desirable variables (mental health, altruism, religious commitment)

The Religious Orientation Scale: Review and Meta-Analysis of Social Desirability Effects

i love jesus

I liked the idea of Holy powes in Elden Ring, despite in all appearances being divine powers and worshiped as such, are actually just being the power of some ayy lmao eldrich abomination larping as god, and the only reason it looks divine is just that this ayy lmao's powers just happened to be golden in color, and that the Golden Order built around it have no idea they're actually just using ayy lmao cum magics this entire time.

source: my ass

The regimes Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung were not religious

because they WERE the religion you dipshit

he posts the name of the source study

"NUH UH I DONT BELIEVE U"

Just admit that you are not open to being convinced of anything and go about your day.

How'd you get an internet connection on TempleOS?

Warhammer

Continued

Intrinsic religious motivation are associated with higher self-control and self-regulation.

Religion, Self-Regulation, and Self-Control: Associations, Explanations, and implications

So out of all religious people, the least-religious ones are more likely to commit crimes.

A Meta-analysis in 2001 examined data from 60 studies and found that religion had a statistically significant, moderately sized effect on crime of about r=-,12... Giving confidence that religion does indeed have some deterrent effect."

“If You Love Me, Keep My Commandments”: A Meta-Analysis of the Effect of Religion on Crime

In 2010, a systematic review found that 90 percent of the studies (244 of 270) find an inverse or beneficial relationship between religion and some measure of crime or delinquency. Only 9 percent found found no association or mixed findings, and only 2 found it was positively associated with a harmful outcome.

Crime and Religion: Assessing the Role of the Faith Factor

A 2001 study sampling over 13,017 men and women aged 18 and older in the US found that religious practices bears a strong and statistically significant inverse association with the perpetration of domestic abuse. (The exact opposite of the stereotype)

Religious Involvement and Domestic Violence Among U.S. Couples

Findings from 669 studies on the effectiveness of organic religion and 97 studies concerning the diverse interventions of religious groups found greater involvement in religious practices is associated with reduced hypertension, longevity, reduced depression, lower alcohol and drug consumption, less risky social behavior, reduced risk of suicide, reduced delinquency, and reduced criminal activity.

Objective Hope: Assessing the Effectiveness of Faith-Based Organizations: A Review of the Literature

Again, note that meta-analysis take all studies publish across a time period on a topic to find the overall trend, and are often more reliable than individual studies.

Umm, all those people worshiped crime itself so they're still religious. Go to college.

Trails had a good guy church until the latest arc ruined it

Of all things, hasn't Kingdom Hearts stuck to Light = Good and darkness = bad?

source: my ass

That’s a weird way of spelling all the studies and meta studies I named.

because they WERE the religion you dipshit

Communism is not a religion.
While Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung all followed an ideology, it doesn't change the fact they were not religious. Many of them actively opposes religion, but despite this they were no less susceptible developing "fanatical" beliefs that lead to those deaths

Religion is a convenient scapegoat to blame all humanity’s problems on, but the truth is both more complicated and more simple. It’s just human nature.

yeah, but Darkness is the God of the Bible, so it's actually anti-Christian.

Race obsessed mutts

dude the gods are dicks

allow me to save you from them by supporting mussolini

dude the gods are dicks

is a god

is a dick

Venat

Venus

Lucifer

I might be crazy but maybe we can't trust this guy.

Retards seethe, but I agree. I'm not even religious, I just find it incredibly boring and tired in fiction. Also it usually stinks of some faggot writer working out xer parental issues. Like they can't get over their personal hangups enough to go beyond bland clownish caricatures.

I mean, no. Most video games, and media, still push white savior bs. They just throw in a brown person every now and then to distract from the fact that they still do

Most video games, and media, still push white savior bs.

But that's not true though.

the obsessed tranny has to post her slop every single time

Kill yourself you dumb disgusting abortion

Light consuming the 1st creates horrors

Darkness consuming the 13th creates horrors

From an XIV standpoint your OP image isn't the best but I get what you're asking for.

Don't really have a good answer save for Shadowbringers, but even then it wasn't really a problem until it became imbalanced, they even had their own set of WoLs and everything pre-fuckening so technically speaking ShB only partially answers your question.

I'd gamble a game involving ying and yang would probably net you something but it's not like there's a ton of those floating around.

Japan isn't exactly good at innovating ideas, or plots. They got demonstrated the hard way that their religion, Shinto, wasn't real. So they have been doing the "kill god" shtick for decades now.

The west has a form of commie religion going on, so they need to subvert the current one.

?

OP asks if the ELEMENT light and darkness have ever switched places in meaning

First and bunch of later posts start bitching about church

Goddamn hyper sensitive christfags think everything is about them.

And no op, while some times light is used in a negative context (SMT and even Shinto itself where white represents death) i dont think i ever seen darkness promoted in a positive context, even bayo who is a witch that uses demons to hunt angels still portray the dark side as assholes.

The closest i can think of is og dark souls with humanity (aka the dark element) having a relation with strong emotions which isnt necessarily good as it can be both love or rage.

Like this anon and some others said, Shadowbringers is a terrible example of "subverting expectations" because all they did was swap the word "light" and "dark". There's literally no being the antihero, no going to the "dark side", no doing anything of questionable ethics, literally "the angels are now bad and they threaten the world". It was a fucking cop out and Ishikawa is a fucking fraud who writes muh emotional plot with zero substance.

I see you forgot about Stormblood already.

See, you're a retard. The part of 'Light and all that is holy' that defines the church is not the Light bit, but the Holy part. You can have a church and a god that is represented by the night.
Hell, OP didn't even mention 'Light and all that is holy', you just pulled that out your ass.

Stormblood

Not a FF14 fag, just saw the op and thought it was an interesting topic, cool to know the are examples of it though.

Back to the main topic, Hollow Knight also came to mind but the Void there also isnt good, its not evil but primordial and animalistic, so more neutral than anything.

It's either woman (pick a color) propaganda or more white dude propaganda. If it's a melanated male protag at all, his depiction is trash or he's a sodomite. So yeah, it is true.

It's a Christian themed game without the usual church bashing, one of the best in theme and design. Wish the dev would make more.

Dragon Quest

You have Meridia from TES and Sartorius from Yu-Gi-Oh as opposite examples. The former is from the pantheon of the evil gods known as Daedric Princes, the latter worships an entity called the Light of Destruction. Both tend to "purify" everything into light.

Light and church are synonymous. That's the whole point OP is trying to make. Yeah it's not the only dark vs light, white vs black theme, but obviously the most prevalent in games since, you know, the whole civilized world is Christian. That chaos or dark is not always inherently evil is a well-established trope as well, but as for the context of dark being "warm and holy", that's just swapping the terms light and dark which OP's game does. The best subversion of light and dark is still Dark Souls, the first time I've seen them make undead feel human and empathizing and not just another zombie to kill. This board hates fromsoft but the writers behind Dark Souls hit the lore out of the park.

Light and church are synonymous

They literally arent. Most religions just use light as a positive aspect, it has never been exclusive to the church, from the sun god Ra to the ancient Ahura Mazda.

I wanted to play long enough to get to the cool creepy stuff like this but ARR and Heavensward filtered me by being incredibly bland slop.

xiv thread with interesting cross game discussion that didn't devolve into faggotry

i have bad news for you guys but the other thread is about to hit max posts

The sky is always blue in 99% of video games

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN

Light and church are not synonymous in the context of games you blithering coon. The connection between Light and the Church is made through God, but within a game those connections need not exist. If a setting takes place on a barren hell world where sunlight burns you to ash, is that innately a criticism of God because the light is bad? No.
In the changed context of a game's setting, the connections to God and the Church change with it to match the setting. If the night is treated as holy in the setting because it's when these magical cure all plants grow, then night would be seen as a representation of God and accepted as such by the player in that setting.

Hollow Knight
The Elder Scrolls
Super Smash Bros Ultimate
The Binding of Isaac
Soul Calibur V
Yu-Gi-Oh Tag Force games and Duel Links
Bayonetta
Pokémon Ultra Sun/Moon
Monster Girl Quest Paradox
Tales of Symphonia
Doom Eternal
Megaman Battle Network 4
Megaman Starforce
Sonic 06
Elden Ring

I said they're synonymous, not that they're exclusive. Obviously every religion on earth sees light as good because the fear of the dark is instinctual. Which leads me to a side point: it's hilarious that these DEI fags get uppity with relating black with bad ala blacklist, fairskinned, etc. Yeah, it's because we're racist, not at all because the fear of the dark has been encoded in our genes for millions of years, fucking retards

light and dark in FFXIV are just polarities on top of the 6 elements

For, by transcendence of yourself and all other things, and by thus cleansing your feelings of all worldly, fleshly and natural pleasures, and you intellect of everything that can be known according to its own form, then, once everything has been negated in this way, you will be drawn up in your feelings above understanding to the radiance of divine darkness that transcends all being.

Yet, for all that, he is not concealed by manifests himself openly in truth and clarity, not to all, but only to those who rise above all existing things, pure as well as impure, and who pass beyond all ascents to all the holy bounds or limits that are set for human being or angels, and who abandon all divine illuminations and all heavenly sounds and words, and enter with love into darkness, where, as the Scripture shows, he truly is who is above all.

The Mystical Theology of St. Denis: Cloud of Unknowing.

Exodus 24: 15~18 And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount. And the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud. And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel. And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

Psalms 18:11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.

I'll just leave this here for the wannabe theologians.

I was expecting actual game suggestions or funny memes questioning if Vauthry banged the female sin eaters but all I see are mind melting takes about religion after getting rage baited by op

6 gorillion years

lol

The USA proves you wrong.

I said they're synonymous, not that they're exclusive

Fair, but since op is explicitly talking about light, there is no reason to think he was talking about specifically about the church which was my initial point, dont you agree?

Which leads me to a side point: it's hilarious that these DEI fags get uppity with relating black with bad ala blacklist, fairskinned, etc. Yeah, it's because we're racist, not at all because the fear of the dark has been encoded in our genes for millions of years, fucking retards

Yep, its retarded i agree, specially since most "blacks" arent even full on black, just shades of brown.

also forgot:
Xenoblade Chronicles 1
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy XIII
Digimon
Devil May Cry 3
Kirby and the Forgotten Land
Terraria
Astlibra
Disgaea

Digimon

Who? Ophanimon Falldown Mode and Lucemon digivolution line?

watch me make a Hazbin Hotel game where all the angels are le chuds

Terraria

you can't possibly tell me the crimson is not more cancerous than the hallow. there's nothing in there that's even dangerous.

christianity negatively correlates with armed conflict

Mexico would like to have a word with you.

hollow knight

Literally a ripoff Dark Souls, so agree

isaac

It's more of using the religious fanatic upbringing to drive a plot, don't think it's subverting it really since you kill angels and demons alike
The fact that most of these other ones involve angels/demons or Abrahamic religions of some kind goes to show how prevalent le church is

have you considered that nobody associates darkness with warmth because it's a retarded idea?

Good = Bad
Bad > Good
Good = Bad
Good > Bad

The hallow is still a corruptive force in of itself. Spreading over normalcy and being hostile to nonhallow beings. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

the fact that no one can answer this is telling that it doesn't exist.
Dark can be portrayed as more neutral instead of pure evil and "primal" as in, more in line with human nature instead of the fake stoicism of light. But it never was portrayed as pure good.

Technically anything that adapts Yu-Gi-Oh! GX's story

shoot your god with a gun

The Church, aka the Christian Church of our Lord Jesus Christ is synonymous with light. Not the god of mars, not the furtive pygmy, but God. Yes faggot I understand the point you're trying to make, but don't get uppity that the majority of "light and holy" makes references to Christianity and not to the sun god of the tribal nigger people Ra

So the answer is that you're mindbroken by and addicted to culture war bullshit, and you have to strawman any artistic intentions in order to still have anything left to ragegoon over? Got it.

Primal/chaotic is neutral, so someone already answered you: dark souls. Lot of games already portray light vs dark as not good vs evil, but order vs chaos, even a shitty gook game like Lost Ark does this. Warcraft does this. Although in warcraft, they still tend to portray sargeras and the void as intrinsically evil, admittedly. FF14 portrays this as light and dark are simply polarities. Most media that run off this trope have some kind of reveal where light and dark aren't intrinsically good and evil, especially the jap kind. As I said though, Dark souls is the best example. The subversion is actually in the plot which was genius, as you start by thinking fire and sun is good, but by the end you slowly start to realize you've been played and that dark = humanity.

The Christian Church is also synonymous with Roman paganism, which is all Christianity has ever been. Christians, like Jews, aren't Hebrews.

Broc can still try to show the world the joy of orc pastries and open a bakery. They just happen to be made of humans that he hunts himself.
Faelith can still enjoy good literature and hot cocoa while also being a massive slut who needs to survive off souls.

Sure, but OP said

dark is holy, warm, pure, uplifting, healing, the last semblance of humanity

which is absolutely not true, not even in Dark Souls
Doing the undead king or whatever questline in DS3 still require you to do heinous acts, for example.