Yes, I'm tired of pretending it's bad

Fast-paced and visually spectacular combat

Narrative noted for its mature and dark themes with complex political intrigue and character motivations

Boss battles are some of the most impressive in the gaming industry

The soundtrack is also one of the best ever, epical and emotional on the key moments and cutscenes

Graphically better than FFVII Rebirth

Clive being maybe the best protagonist in the entire FF franchise, with an insane amount of character development

Why didn't you guys told me how KINO this is?

Graphically better than FFVII Rebirth

it also cost more to make than Rebirth did.

There is no official budget published by Square Enix regarding the development cost of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth in any case

59 million

Man that's cheap.

not a story about friendship

15 is better, chud

Wukong is better on all levels, Wukong was rub GOTY

I do not believe that for a second.

Its a solid 7/10. While Rebirth is closer to a 9/10

Tell me you didn't finish the game

The final boss basically contains a monologue of Clive talking about friendship. Also he fights along Joshua and the gay dude when they sacrifice themselves

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you're the kind of nigger who rates movies he hated as 6/10

not really

you also forgot about HIM

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I refuse to believe that's true. The game looks ridiculously cheap.

constantly see gameplay clips of it from people who actually are good at the game

play the game myself

can pull off some good combos but have to wait 2 hours for the cool downs of the skills

now i can see why those combat clips are only a few seconds long... they edit out the ridiculously long cool downs for the skills. then youre just stuck doing attack+magic+attack+magic+ bark bark. maybe the occasional hold down attack button strikes.

No shit, Rebirth is an iterative sequel with a fuck ton of reused assets

It's pretty boring but seems like a godsend in comparison to the decade of lightning, FFXV, and 7 Remake

Not a JRPG. Not an FF game.

It's shallow, repetitive, tedious "fill the gauge and pop a cool down" combat. The story was painfully predictable. The pacing was shit. Square simply does not know how to tell a good story with engaging gameplay, and they try to plaster over these deficiencies with massive spectacle, which doesn't work on anyone over the age of 12.

The cooldowns are about 40 seconds for the most powerful habilities, also I was always wearing gear for coldown reduction to make more combos, that helped a lot

You cheated the game, good job.

cheated

That's the case if you put on the rings to auto-evade, auto-parry or auto-combos. All other accessories are fair to wear imo

This game gives you so many options to cheat lol

59 million budget

that's like the cheapest AAA made in the last 10 years. Explains a lot

I just wish there were more sidequest variety

FF16 was a game designed for people who don't like JRPGs or Final Fantasy games.

One melee sword combo for the entire game

By the 10 hour mark you've seen everything the combat system can do and from then on its just unlocking more cooldown abilities to slot into your limited slots with no way to expand them

Every non boss enemy is a waste of time

Dodge window is too big making it too easy to avoid every attack

Every major fight becomes more spectacle than gameplay challenge or engagement

RPG systems stop at make number bigger

Too many side quests that are boring and not enough things to do with its large world map

No party at all when you have a perfectly playable sidekick like Jill for most of the game who could have had a moveset etc.

Its not a bad game by any means but they should have just committed to making a DMC game or an RPG not half ass both at once.

This. Yoshit-Piss said it himself on his pre-launch marketing tour. They wanted to reach the audience that play GTA and GoW. Not FF. This whole game is basically designed to be as tuned to western sensibilities as possible.

still too fucking long even with the accessories.
not saying the game is bad. i still had fun with it but all those combo videos i keep seeing online are like borderline false advertising because thats something you cant constantly do.
like, imagine if devil may cry had cool downs for all the attacks outside of the regular attacks like the ones you mash or pause at certain points.

complex political intrigue

FFXVI political intrigue makes Anon Babble shitpost looks like a masterpiece

Not final fantasy. It's garbage designed for american sony fans. And literally every single one of your points is pute fanfiction, or even bait.

Cooldown based gameplay over pure resource management always sucks. It's for low IQ monkeys.

>Narrative noted for its mature and dark themes with complex political intrigue and character motivations

How did you like Jill getting raped by Ironbloods?

You still can do a lot of funny shit between cooldowns. I understand your point but perhaps you need to learn how to chain regular habilities with mele and aerial attacks

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Guards!! Put Clive into the jail so I can kill her girlfriend, Jill later!!

Guards, after you put Clive in the jail, bring him back immediately so I can kill her girlfriend, Jill

Meanwhile, I will wait for you to do those things and do nothing else

It's bad.

combat is mash square until you can spam all your skills at once to push a stagger

sometimes have to stop attacking entirely so you have your skills ready for the stagger window

each unlock is largely significantly better than the last (esp. mid-late game)

generic fetch quests

hunts are MOSTLY reskins with minimal or no changes

empty, pointless open zones

each lull between the main story where you go off to do busy work is a gameplay killer

visually the cutscenes were great and the overall story was okay for a JRPG but they REALLY should have just beefed the games main story up more, get rid of the open world, and chain more cool set pieces together like you do in the main story. the padding between each main story sequence where you run around gearing up and doing side quests/hunts was really shit and MURDERED the pacing of the game.

It's a great game, but it's still not Final Fantasy. It's Dissidia/Dirge of Cerberus all over again.

Dissidia had WAY more RPG elements than fucking XVI, that was more of a fucking FF game

Dissidia is only FF because it has a FF skin slapped on it. Replace it with any other brands like Tales, Persona, Star Ocean, Trails, etc and it will be the same template shit.

That's the problem with these games. They don't feel like mainline entries, they are off the wall spinoffs at best. Dirge of Cerberus of prime example of this nobody asked for this shift to real time ass combat like xv and xvi.

muh spectacle

Lmao XVI fans are genuine snoy normalfags clapping at cutscenes and press x to awesome

Ironically 15 was supposed to be a spinoff of 13.

I just defeated Garuda. I have no idea why I was even fighting Benedikta. I have no idea what the factions are or why I should care. The game randomly cuts to a battlefield and Odin and Bahamut dance with one another and I have no idea why this is important. This game keeps throwing EPIC scenes at you without ever building up to them. Feels kinda hollow.

I still don't get what they were thinking with the whole Fabula Nova Crystallis thing. Someone really liked that lore.

The lore was secondary, they wanted multiple games on the same in-house engine, sadly the engine was awful for open-world shit on the hardware at the time. At least, that's my understanding.

pretending

kek! KEK!!

It's Game of Thrones FF edition, literally.
Some magic plague bullshit is fucking up the land (White Walkers, Wall crumble). I may be sketchy on the factions because it's been forever since I played but basically Clive's house is the Starks they get betrayed. The mom shacks of with the king of the Bahamut guys kingdom and they raise a gay little kid. Clive's brother is basically Bran and Clive Jon. The Odin guy is reverse Daenerys he originally wants to take over but then decides to set his sights across the seas. Then there's like the titan guy and his merchant kingdom or w/e. They're basically House Tyrell.

Anon, that's an AI site which pulls bullshit from random forums across the net.
We have no idea how much it cost SE.

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