Doom Dark Ages

tell me this doesn't look fun as shit

Of course that looks fun as hell, I already pre-ordered my digital copy.

videogames aren't about fun retard they're about graphics and immersive storytelling

zero level design

Simon Says parry the green light!

it doesn't look fun as shit

SO MVCH FVN

I hate bethesda marketers

I like Serious Sam, this somehow reminds me of it.

the more recent footage is winning me over. I don't think I'll like it as much as Eternal because I love the "human fighter jet" feeling in a shooter, but I think I can trust them to still nail a good combat flow which is the important thing. Literally the only singleplayer shooter that's actually GOOD at combat these days.

aye nigga i love me some doom but this shit look kinda ass tbhfam

shit isnt fun thougheverbeit?

i will torrent it but i wont spend a dime on it bc no multiplayer, simple as

It'd be more enjoyable if you moved slower, maybe best you didn't move at all and colours just came at you on the screen. That sounds like fun.

I won't even buy it on sale

the game is now Borderlands 3

Looks slower than dog dick

that doesn't look fun as shit
I'm not a DOOM fan, I just like Eternal.

what retard put all these mmo mechanics in the fps?

How do we fix this "run backwards or around in circles whole shooting head/COM until they die" problem with first-person shooters?

enemy just stands there doing nothing, letting you wail on it

attacks with slow-motion color-coded projectiles

yawn

I see no problem.

wtf am i watching? this is doom? my grandpa would shit his pants if i told him this was doom

That looks like shit dude

Big open spaces

Shit loads of projectiles

This is what Doom should be, not some dark corridor or parkour shit

The color coded slow projectiles you can deflect is really the only thing I think looks dumb in the game. I do not mind the slower pace because 1. its classic Doom for you to be grounded and only really have strafing to worry about for dodges and 2. I never played the past couple of games. So to me this game looks fine. I know its not exactly like classic Doom since there is still jumping but the speed just doesn't really bother me it looks like how I would imagine a 3D Doom 1 and 2 would have played assuming gameplay was largely unchanged.

Looks boring

Doom?

The people complaining are the same people who have never even beat the original Doom and Doom II

All these years later and all I wanted was an expansion for Doom 2016

bullet sponge

fun

gay shit

Your cope is adorable. Just replayed it on the keks engine

sounds gay

It'd do wonders for presentation if they'd stop demonstrating games on console with the sensitivity all the way down and letting someone with cerebral palsy work the controller. Just show us mouse and keyboard gameplay on Nightmare mode.

people dick sucking it are the same people who have never even beat the Master Levels for Doom II and Final Doom

I don't like either of those games. Just like Eternal.

This doesn't look fun as shit

This game looks like a giant anal smear across my chest.

i-is that bad?

isnt this just yellow paint but instead its green flashes for combat

It's gonna be GOTY, can't wait. Built a 9800X3D 5080 rig for this game.

the color coded EPIC PARRY shit is wack, you should either be able to reflect projectiles or not, making it color coded just makes it like guitar hero rather than like responding to an attack, it's just like cuphead where it's not a defensive maneuver it's just a little minigame for some extra damage or meter or whatever. the parry madness fad needs to end, it's been like 16 years. other than that it looks cool will probably wait for reviews

I don't understand the design decision behind the green light parry babu minigame. It's jarring and out of place.

Just looks okay, I really don't get why they always have the most dog shit players showcase these games though

looks retarded but will probably be pretty fun

looks very modern if you ask me

PARRY THE GREEN

EPIC SLOW DOWN

UH OH WATTCH OUT FOR RED

looks like absolute shit

The way he stops shooting and runs after the green wave like it's a dog toy is genuinely horrible PR for this game

As much people shat on Doom 2016, at least it had an interesting level design. Doom Eternal gave up on interesting level design, thats why all levels are just corridors so zoomers could not get bored exploring. But this just looks like there is no level design at all.

The only thing I don't like so far is the slow mo effect after parrying. I really really hope you can turn that off cause I feel like it's gonna fuck with my sense of pace so much.

Just like cuphead where the green projectiles are the same as the pink ones lmao

They do it intentionally so that you buy the game to play less shit than them, it's similar to those mobile game ads

this looks really good for a game made in 2005

Enemies, especially inhuman ones, need to incorporate maneuverability enough to make it untenable.

Make the enemy try to circle you

Seems disingenuous. Don't they let you configure enemy aggression and combat/projectile speed? If those are default values then that's one thing, but it still looks more fun than the hotkey slopfest Eternal turned out to be

Doom was great because it was simple, maybe even Dead Simple.

The combat and movement basics were easy to understand and perform, but if you wanted you could increase the difficulty and have to move and kill things faster and with more thought so as to not get killed.
As a result, Doom can be incredibly difficult depending on the map, enemy types, enemy numbers, and weapons/items available, but it still will never get complicated.
These games are the exact opposite. They push complicated puzzle-like movement and combat, and the difficulty comes from the designers throwing annoyances in your way that stop you from executing the puzzle-like weapon switching and unique counters to each enemy.

Never again will you hear an enemy sound and, already having your SSG out, confidently race towards it to blast its guts out.
Now you must think

oh i gotta get the counter-weapon or i wont do enough damage to this specific enemy!

Call it a skill issue if you want.
I want to play Doom, not Devil May Cry.

Tldr

Call it a skill issue if you want.
I want to play Doom, not Devil May Cry.

level design

Thats a lost art at this point

Looks far more boring than time splitters 2 on the gamecube.

So you’re a brand whore but not really

more archviles

YOU FUCKERS TOLD ME THIS IS JUST A PLACEHOLDER UI
Don't fucking tell me this abomination is actually going to be in the game.

Sounds like a skill issue

Jesus Christ, it looks like such shit. Every time they release something it looks worse and worse.

What do you do in og doom if you have the ssg out and there are chaingunners on a ledge

goes into thread about game series they don't like to post about how they don't like them

you're worse than the OP

I like this one

It will never happen, nothing makes casuals rage more than whiffing their shots

enemies that are more dangerous at long range than close/mid range

Why does the player move like absolute molasses, I don't even like Eternal but when your sprint speed in Dark Ages is basically your base movement speeds at lowest in 2016, there's a fucking problem.

I get closer and fire, then duck behind a wall or corner, then switch to another weapon if I would rather use bullets instead of shells.

you need to play the meta in this single-player game because- BECAUSE YOU JUST DO OK?

even on nightmare difficult you dont need to perform quick switch combos, plus the "puzzle" is literally just "R gives armor, G gives damage or health". if thats too complicated for you, you just might be a retard.

It looks extremely boring.

Youre a fraud, fuck off

Did they get rid of the autistic forced rapid weapon swapping? If so then I'll definitely look into it.

Play echo point nova.

its quite fun
kill yourself

faster gameplay and lower health for both you and the enemies

but I like Eternal and want more of that

the thing is, normal fps games are even more braindead
They are just point and shoot
So rock paper scissors tier depth is still better than nothing.

it looks like returnal but with enemies with less bullet hell and slower reaction times

By the way, Returnal literally is one of the greatest games of this generation and if you haven't played it yet, you should.

Add a guitar peripheral and I'm in.

Looks like the same thing as 2016 and Eternal where it only really gets fun in the back third/quarter of the game and ng+/mods/master levels are the best content
Which isn't the worst thing ever.

How do we fix this "run backwards or around in circles whole shooting head/COM until they die" problem with first-person shooters?

You're not going to like the answer.

But enemies in classic doom have weakness to certain weapons

Can I get a link?

Don't tell me you actually wanted me to say

UMMM EXCUSE ME BUT THE SSG AND CHAINGUNNERS ARENT IN "og doom"

Nah it was more the part where you said you'd get closer to the notorious hp melting instant reaction hit scanners. But my point was that even in classic doom not every weapon is viable in every situation or against every enemy, and the weapon switching takes so long that your only option is to hide like a bitch while you do it. But desu I don't care ebcuse I just read this and I sound like a fucking nerd

they have completely massacred what doom was about.
Its just some darksiders fantasy world now. They went 180 from actual satanism, its just safe fantasy demuns now,
Looks juvenile and silly.

zoomschlop

page 10

hey look they animated doom guy's head just like in the original game oh my godddd

i entered a thread of something i don't like, how could this possibly happen

you bumped it to page 1 anyway

For what? Just look up Returnal's gameplay on youtube

It's a fantastic game, bullet hell rogue-like where everytime you die your playthrough restarts and you have a new arrangement of the same level to go through. Each time weapons spawn in different areas as do different items that give you boosts. But the order is changed every time much like other rogue likes as is the enemy groupings. There's 2 different stages of 3 levels that you can choose to start, once you complete the first 3 you start playing through the second, more difficult loop with vastly different levels some of which remix levels you already went through but with very different environments.

It's honestly one of the most underrated games this generation, a ton of fun, difficult enough to keep you trying with every playthrough but once you learn the bosses they actually become very easy. The normal standard enemies that can kill you in a few hits in each playthrough are what make it so hard if you go into a room unprepared.

its just safe fantasy demuns now

Nah they're still portrayed as bad guys.

I don't care for doom, but isn't this pretty much what videogames are? all the flowchart Ken shit

i mean they are in offensive generic fantasy setting demons.
Its the complete opposite of doom.

you'd get closer to the notorious hp melting instant reaction hit scanners

Maybe you should play the game instead of watching decino play it and talk about it. Chaingunners die in a single good SSG blast, and it will stun them most of the time. They are only a problem in mods.

MY point is that I don't need to worry about it. I'm gonna fire on whatever enters my vision and it will usually die quick, and I never have to stop to swap weapons because the enemy wants me to shoot its turret with my scoped rifle for some dumb reason.

All the grounded gameplay and bullet hell dodging really reminds me of classic doom. did they take the classics as the main inspiration for the new one? i've been in the dark about all the media and interviews about the dork ages.

lmao

bang.....bang......bang......magic......bang.....bang....boomerang.........bang.....punch

lmao
FPS stop being good in 2001

Doom, the game where you shoot demons from hell with a Super Shotgun, is juvenile and silly.

no it isn't, maybe you're a psycho?

Shitters won. Eternal was id's magnum opus. Now we're getting games for disabled people because Eternal filtered millions.

Looks juvenile and silly.

picrelated: mature and scary demon design (just don't ask about holes)

Only oldtroons shat on 2016 despite it being better that any doom game before it

The ssg spread makes it ineffective against chaingunners from even a short distance since they will stagger then instantly turn and hitscan you, also even close range if there is more than one they will all turn and shoot and you will be defenseless since you have to watch the reload at minimum before firing again or switching which also takes extra time. Chaingun is basically made to counter them being hitscan and low spread.

This is all from my own experience trying to do different wads no hit on uv BTW.

Also sorry for calling you a fraud I'm just tired of people bitching about the weapon slopping when all they did was remove the delays from old doom switching. Of all the shit eternal did wrong that wasn't it

the enemy wants me to shoot its turret with my scoped rifle for some dumb reason

you're not obliged to do that

Original doom: actual demons from hell and minions of THE devil aka satan, invade futuristic earth.

Nudoom: moba creatures from LoL with absolutely no connection to satanism

That's genius. We could make a whole market out of this.

total oldtroon death

zoomslop

page 1

every time, keep crying bitch

Original doom: actual demons from hell

aka fantasy creatures

they turned doom into mario to please deranged reddit basedboys drowning in fuknopops

BRO YOU ATE THAT SHIT AND ASKED FOR SECONDS

I liked 2016 but getting locked into monster closets all the time became a slog by the end of the game.

has 2016 aged well? picked it up on sale on playstation after already playing on PC a decade ago and boy.... it's hard on the harder difficulties with a controller.
If I had M&K like I did for PC it wouldn't be so bad, but playing with a controller is like being disabled, especially on ultra violence where I'm dying so fast to literal tutorial enemies because I can't aim for shit.

Are the ancient gods expansions worth it in eternal? I somehow forgot they came out

I think it has
Its hard to go back to after eternal’s speed
Certain rune set ups can make 2016 fast and fun, like the speedier glory kills

higher damage across the board (ie, for both the player and enemies)
it shouldn't take 4 entire mags to kill a human being, it should take 5-6 rounds max or 1 to the head
make guns more accurate, if an AR fired in the kind of cone they often do in video games it'd be deemed less useful than a sling
enemies should have much farther engagement ranges and be more aggressive with how much they're shooting you; you should be obligated to take cover or turn into a smoking piece of swiss cheese if you're up against 5+ enemies
give enemies actually defensible positions with hard cover, MG nests, peepholes, traps/mines and the ability to fire/throw explosives at you from completely behind cover
even if enemies were to lose sight of you they should be putting down suppressive fire in your last known location
make AI less retarded (I have no simple solution for this though I will say little tricks like the callouts that FEAR used at least give players the illusion the AI is much smarter than it is)
compounding on the above: make enemies actually used tactics like pincer maneuvers, flushing you out of cover with explosives, tossing flashbangs into rooms before entering them, shoot&scoot, retreating, laying small ambushes, laying their own traps, suicide bombs, etc
a bunch of these things were in older games (HL1 comes to mind) but a lot of modern FPS games have truly retarded "AI" that might as well just be training dummies that take cover on a timer

yes
arcade is kino

what the fuck happened between 2016 and this?

If we turn doom into a tactical cover shooter we will never have to utilize movement ever again

They're peak of Eternal.

wow that sounds boring

walk sideways

shoot

move forward

shoot

walk sideways

shoot

This looks like trash, has anyone played echo point nova?

See green projectile. Change intended behavior so you can run into it to bounce it back.

Looks terrible.

not severed steel 2

projectiles

I'm afraid to disappoint myself

i don't want it for DOOM in the slightest, to be honest I'm just describing the kind of FPS game I really want
I also really like fast-paced FPS games like ultrakill, roboquest, deadlink, trepang, but all of those games also lack the problem the first anon described

not severed steel 2

Thank you, downloading.

Yet Anon Babble onions over this shit

Sorry I meant to say I never played severed steel, if it's 1/10th as good as echo point nova I am so down for that shit.
Echo point nova is the first game I've 100%'d in 20 years.

Doom II is complete garbage and doesn't even have an actual progression. All it did was add meme ass momsters for meme ass maps to be made.

this doesn't look fun as shit

Fuck I was actually excited for this game.
Why is it so slow? Is this for babies?

Yeah id be surprised if it wasn't at least 1/10th as good but you might get frustrated or bored because dodging enemy damage either requires killing them in very quick succession or abusing the wall running endlessly which I assume isn't an issue in Echo Point since it's projectile weaponry you can presumably dodge

level design is when stack shit vertically lol

nah. and you cant name a single level in 2016 that has a distinct cool design, they're all corridors and 90 degree angles.

walk around with one gun

i'm reminding you that this is the kind of gameplay retards who hate nudoom actually want. but now that they have it, they realize it's actually shit.

the reason ID added a bunch gymnastics for you to do while you're at it just to cover up how shitty the basic premise is is pretty obvious

Yeah abusing wall running is pretty efficient in some areas but the game doesn't have too many enclosed spaces so it's not always viable.
That looks tight as shit, it has the same fantastic reflections I love to see in echo point nova, this aesthetic is pure kino to me.

and you cant name a single level in 2016 that has a distinct cool design, they're all corridors and 90 degree angles

I liked the Foundry because you can jump from a walkway to a walkway and it doesn't feel linear.

I would almost say it's a great design wasted on an early level (so you only fight like 4 enemy types there).

Honestly I just go after games with nail guns in them.

foundry is just super gore nest but worse env art and lack of annoying jump puzzles

77p egg
Poke646

It's kinda sad, when doom 2016 came out it was a refreshing turn from the brown and grey modern shooter slop.
Now it's brown and grey modern shooter slop.

Foundry is actually genuinely non-linear until the final battle. SGN pretends to be, but the progression is entirely linear, just complicated. I also like Foundry's art even if overall I prefer Eternal's art direction by far. I dunno, something about industrial environments gets me going.

You can call TDA many names, but a generic "modern shooter" it is not.

>level design is when stack shit vertically lol

being this dissingenuous

retards like you bitched so much about level design in 2016 that we dont have any now.

It doesn't. this doesn't even look like doom. why is it so slow?

You're right, the aesthetic isn't modern.
The game design however, 100% is.

"oh h*ll yeah, I'm a huge doom fan" >plays it on console on the lowest difficulty with youtube walkthrough and the wiki opened: the game

consider that most shooters dont even bother having depth and you just shoot the enemies

How do people who don't play games keep getting early access to them for showcases

The game design however, 100% is.

Absolutely not. It's still a skill focused, push forward combat game with parry. Which other FPS even has parry, apart from Ultrakill?

Parry doesn't make things good it's just a quicktime event with immersive ui.

then why can't you name actually good design features you like in 2016

being this dissingenuous

then why did you post a picture of verticality, are you retarded? if being nonlinear and vertical is all the requirements for a level design to work our then explain why minecraft isn't the peak of level design

I’ve enjoyed every doom game I’ve played, even if I kinda suck at them. I couldn’t even beat eternal on anything harder than baby mode, which was embarrassing, usually I can do hurt me plenty. I’ll enjoy this. I think the shield is cool.

bah bah good bad

It's different from generic modern shooters. It's a projectile based shooter with a focus on melee and parry. It's unique.

but it's le bad

I don't care about that argument. Calling TDA a generic modern shooter is disingenuous.

looks like suicide squad with all the out of place neon shit flying around

So really slow touhou fps.
You should play echo point nova, it has parry and is a really quick projectile based shooter with a focus on being good at games.

I'm not even going to address the gameplay because i'm confused, why are we medieval now? I really don't get the aesthetic choice for this one. The scifi+ demonic environments were incredible in doom 2016. I can understand hell+medieval but tencho+medieval? Absolute bollocks as they say.

I can't believe that after creating Eternal they went for this design, whatever it is.

why are we medieval now?

Good question, why didn't they just make this the Hexen reboot. Who even owns Hexen did Microsoft Bethesda Id keep the license or does it still belong to ravensoft who makes idk
<Googles>
Call of duty 6? What the fuck?

borderlands without numbers or gun variety. lol. doombros reduced to sub-randy level gunplay.

*coms noises* "You got this doomguy, counter the green beams to parry them back at the enemy for a stun!"

*coms noises* Yeah that's the way! Now how do we open this door?

*coms noises* That's one way to open a door, you sure know how to make an entrance."

instead of homing bullets it's homing player(on green bullets)

What were they thinking?

Parry is an age old mechanic in MELEE action games.
If you could naturally parry some attacks like a slam jump or chain throw nobody would complain. the way they use parrying looks bad and anti-doom design.

I fully expect something nearly, if not identical to that to be in the game.

I was shocked just to learn that there are six call of duty black ops titles. When the fuck did 3-5 happen?

my shooters MUST be COMPLICATED, and COMPLEX, if im not doing calculus im NOT having FVN

Why does the demon shoot the green thing? I would only shoot the red ones if I was fighting the boomslayer.

That's never happened yet I can hear it perfectly while reading.

i beat doom1 but couldn't withstand how shit doom2 was right after beating doom1.

To trick the doomguy into walking into his incredibly slow incredibly inefficient projectiles.
See this is why you could never be a dog with demon horns or whatever.

Archvile is objectively sucks dick to fight and not because of line of sight or revival, at least revenant can give you some cool dodges

YOU FORGOT THE SLIDERS

kill yourself

Don't talk to my friend like that

retards complain about game being too slow and easy but ignore the sliders

so which one is it?

having the screen shake does not make your shotgun feel "meaty", looks completely flacid

shmup but as a first person brawler

nice

if you don't like a post or an opinion just slide it away :)

so you can't explain if the game is too slow or easy why you won't change the difficulty? gotcha

super mario bros on snes doesn't have difficulty sliders gotcha

tries to deflect and move the goalpost the second your retarded argument gets challenged

then why even make the argument

I just slid time wasting to 500% bro whats the problem? maybe if you want to have an argument you should have set some kind of boundaries and not been lazy MIC DROP 100000%

most difficulty settings are just "sliders" parametrized into pre baked arbitrary "settings", the only difference is that now you can adjust them yourself. and the most popular mods in eternal were difficulty mods, so how is having the ability to mod the game straight from an ingame menu bad

Dance Doom Revolution

because Eternals difficulty curve was crafted perfectly
in this shit show why would you have to balance or test and craft anything

oh this part is too easy I'll slide it to make it a little bit harder

then you'll get to a part where it'll be hard because they haven't tuned anything so you'll have to slide shit down more
people will spend half the game in the slide menu instead of getting good at the game

it's part of the doom lore, this is a prequel to Doom 2016. This is why you see a fat angel makyr in the trailer.

Standardized game difficulties make it possible to gauge people's completion and familiarity with the game.
If someone told me they beat this piece of shit on the "highest difficulty" I'd just presume they ran a bunch of retarded sliders to make enemies do 1% damage and take 500000% damage.
I would never take anyone's completion of this game with a single grain of salt, I would presume the worst, because it is a baby game with baby features for babies.

Why the fuck is it so slow?

them adding sliders like this means they don't give a fuck about a proper "nightmare", "hard" etc experience.

It looks unfun and shit

That looks pretty boring desu

Doesn't look fun enough to dish out 80 bucks for a base version

jesus christ this is like Anon Babble eternal threads, the game.

no more jumping, Anon Babble couldn't handle platforming

no more dashing, cause its "autistic"

monsters don't move anymore, again too "autistic" otherwise

slow moving green balls and lines, perfect for Anon Babble reflexes

This game seems built from the bottom up to be mediocre for mediocre players.

you can't explain why having adjustable difficulty is bad but having pre-baked "difficulty settings" is gud

because Eternals difficulty curve was crafted perfectly

not for me and most people good at games

Standardized game difficulties

those are still in the game, the sliders are obviously for people who want to make the game harder beyond nightmare and don't want to wait for master levels or difficulty mods or cuphead tier retards that got stuck on marauder

The sliders are there to say "we didn't know how to balance this, please do our job for us."

The sliders are there to say "we didn't know how to balance this, please do our job for us."

and yet, you can't explain how having a bunch of arbitrary "difficulty settings" is not the same thing retard

if the game was always tuned to the difficulty setting i prefer then nobody but top FPS enthusiasts would enjoy the game, and it would instantly alienate 99.9% of the potential buyers

You're missing the point. They don't know how to balance it because the gameplay loop sucks. But they are in for a penny, in for a pound now. So they are offering sliders so that players can try to tweak something out that actually feels good to play with the shitty mechanics and design they are stuck with. It is not a good sign that they can't figure out some basic presets that will feel good to play for large groups of people and instead have to resort to, "Here, you figure it out."

I hate dogshitkiro too
Games don't age, 2016 was super shit on release
Anon Babble getting filtered en masse by Eternal is the only reason people pretend 2016 is good here
Doom 3 is also normalfag slop for millennial retards that were too casual for classic doom so the cycle goes on and on

it doesn't look fun or good and you should legit feel bad for like nu-doom. because nu-doom is fucking dogshit poo poo

I've beaten every map of Plutonia pistol start, I just hate the constant slowmo for "impact" because I know id can make a better melee system than this.

This feels like a regression from the previous two games as a response because they were too hard for normies. Metroid Prime 4 looks more exciting to play than this.

has anyone played echo point nova

Imagine a first person sci fi SSX tricky game where there a dude with jetpacks and rifleman mechs from battletech shooting at you.

"You're missing the point."

<starts going on a tangent not related to my point>

we're not talking about whether or not you like the "gameplay loop" (it's called combat loop in this context, btw), we are talking about how the idea of difficulty settings being adjustable somehow hasn't always been the norm, this time they are just letting you access more of the parametricization

Anon Babble getting filtered en masse by Eternal

funny how you fags deflect any criticism regarding the dogshit pinata gameplay by saying "f-filtered!"

Why are people shitting on this game?
I honestly don’t see it
I’m starting to think people don’t know what a shit game actually is, if they somehow consider this DOOM game bad

that slowdown effect after parry

do zoomers really?

I liked 2016, liked Eternal and I’m pretty sure I’m gonna like Dark Ages
It’s just a few schizoid shitposters, the same that were originally shitting up every Eternal thread
It’s sad how we won’t be able to actually talk about this game until 10 years later
I mean, we can barely talk about Eternal and it’s been 5 years, threads will get derailed by the schizos everytime

No, that's what Halo 2 did and it's the worst out of Bungie's Halo

Because this clip makes the game look like shit, you think they would've learned from Doom 2016 polygon

Dark Ages is Eternal 2

you think they would've learned from Doom 2016 polygon

or doom eternal. they always have to make the game look like a geriatric boomer is playing, because otherwise you end up with lawbreakers marketing fiasco

the game will probably be harder than doom eternal base campaign especially now that you cant abuse switch spam

I remember when dishonored 2 used stealthgamerbr for one of their trailers, I really thought we were moving in the right direction

doom eternal was not bad, you just refused to play it the intended way

intended way is boring af

Didn't watch. The design is too stupid to waste time on it. Everyone interested in it is worthless.

Why does modern game lighting look like shit?

fewer hitscan weapons
enemies which attack by moving
enemies that use area denial attacks

intended way is boring af

can't take this seriously when the main argument against doom was from retards who were sad they couldn't play the game in the most boring way ie run around with one weapon then having a cry calling the game bad while intentionally avoiding 99% of the mechanics

Games exist for player's desires, not the other way around
Either a game is fun or it is boring, and I am not gonna be brownbeat into liking Doom Eternal just because you can basedjak face and point at it and say "OMG! SO HARD AND SYSTEMATIC!"
go speedrun games and transition while you are at it

I actually enjoyed Doom Eternal, but based.

Hitting them in the head once should be enough. Stop trying to force melee action game style boss fights in to FPS games, it's as retarded as if you felt the need to shoehorn weapon durability in to guitar hero and you had to replace your guitar strings regularly

This boards filled with fortnite and cod zoomers now of course they don't like doom

Only true gamers will understand and e respect the fine line between speedtrooning (look at the ground in goldeneye to go faster) and the satisfaction of looping all of the games available mechanics into your hardcore henry kino combo

The devs realizing that Doom is practically a shmup is cool and all, but it seems like the parry will ruin that type of gameplay.

Games exist for player's desires, not the other way around

factually wrong, the entire of purpose of a game is to conform to a set of rules that define the game. if you don't like the rules, you simply find another game.

also

if you want to ignore 99% of the game's design what is the problem you had with turning on infinite ammo cheat in eternal and playing like that, or downloading a cheatengine table since you clearly don't care about any of the design present. all of those options are right there available for you, but you don't put your money where your mouth is.

If the people here played fornite and cod we would get better takes.

It's more about the interaction between the player and that ruleset. You don't want the ruleset to be so rigid that the player has no flexiblity but if players can do anything and win they will get bored of a game as soon as the novelty wears off.

they made a new expansion for doom 2 with new weapons and enemies

AND YOU TELL ME ABOUT THIS NOW?!

ima be real with you dawg, this game looks like ass.

it looks like a more shit version of hell gate London

but if players can do anything and win they will get bored of a game as soon as the novelty wears off.

then why say

Games exist for player's desires, not the other way around

if you are going to move the goalpost immediately. with infinite ammo you can ignore 99% of the systems you claimed restrict you, but you are still killable to the enemies. if you don't want to even interact with enemies hitting you, turn on godmode.

all the "rigidity" you mention only exist in your head, and your continuous ignoring of the cheats the game offers you further proves you don't actually want the game to bend itself over for you because that statement was retarded from the get go and this is just another round of cope about people who got filtered by eternal.

Fax, the dreadlocks the frog thing shoots look mad slow b

Shut the fuck up Anon Babble post demons

Actually having to press the 3 key on my keyboard sometimes is fucking gay and I'm not gonna do it

Don't worry, there is a slider for game speed (I'm not joking). From now on any time you have a complaint about a game, it's because YOU didn't set the sliders right.

maybe you should play movie games then, it's pretty clear you disagree with fast FPS design and fast FPS designs disagree with you

THEY BROUGHT BACK THE ORIGINAL HUD OH MY GOOOOOOOD I’M CONSUUMIIIIIING

Not touching the number keys no matter how much you cry about it

starts babbling nonsense after he is refused to abandon his point after 1 response

I accept your concession.

holy soulless. as much as I like parry mechanics in souls-like and some action games, Doom really doesn’t need it. It just feels out of place

that's not a problem

The fact that it never occured to you that you were talking to two different people is kinda crazy

How many demons have doomslayer guy killed?
Will we kill Even more maykrs?
The fat one is annoying to look at

by not calling it a problem

Billions.

The fact that you think you can win in this argument where I already forced 1 poster before you to give up the same point is kinda crazy

My point being that you can't entirely let the rules dictate the players actions but without them the game is a pointless novelty that gets boring in ten minutes?

Then you are trying to argue a whole another point that has nothing to do with the actual convo responding to an argument that was made toward a different point, and then wondering why you are getting confused with the other poster who already gave up the argument and abandoned their point after 1 reply.

Yeah sorry that not everyone called Anonymous on Anon Babble is the same person anon

Return to Form

Looks nothing like the old DOOM, old DOOM is about positioning in a tight places unlike what the fuck this Dance Dance Doom Revolution

You are expected to learn how convos work on this website before trying to use it, but it should be common sense to not try to take over someone's point using a modified version of their argument. You will just look like you backpedal. Next time you'll know better.

Hopefully your friend comes back and you guys can finish your original argument

ammo dries up super fast

oh boy because everyone fucking loved this in Eternal so much!

Games don't age

How would you describe No Man's Sky then? Sure they've just been dredging the shallow puddle wider, but it definitely isn't the same game as it was on release.

Nah, I think it's obvious the guy long since left the thread so I consider the argument finished.

wake me up for quake. no multiplayer, no play.

QC is right there.

Boomers don't actually want to grind a reflex heavy fps all day it turns out

Do the aliens look good now? Does the planet generation regularly make cool shit? Are their biome interactions and ecosystem interactions? Otherwise who cares how much bloat they add to the fucking crafting menus

Anon Babble will shit on nu doom trying out new things and then defend fromslop for pulling out the same game since 2009

Why do doombros get cool new doom games while us halo bros have to suffer. It’s actually disgusting how MS is just tossing chief aside as their mascot for doomguy even though they’re the ones who fucked with the halo games.

You will never be white.

It’s literally not a problem. If you don’t like it go play a brain dead twitch shooter.

I'm a rollslop hater, loved DOOM and this doesn't look like doom
projectiles need to be fast and a lot of them. they reduced both of those factors to make them parryable and weave-able.

Put more enemies that scan player's hit points and subtract it if it's positive value.

Doom 2016 actually rekindled Doom's popularity which trended upward with Eternal whereas Halo shot itself in the foot with 4 and they never settled on a clear direction after that. Also nuDoom is innovative and trendsetting whereas 343 Halo is always trend chasing.

I doubt every single projectile in the game is slow. Just the larges parryable ones. Also, just like eternal, I doubt this gameplay will extend beyond one game, so god forbid we get something a little different from every other DPS slop out there every once in a while.

This would look one million times less lame if there weren't specific color coded projectiles you "had to" deflect and could simply deflect any of them. I'd rather have to deflect three of them in quick succession to stagger that demon instead of deliberately picking and walking to the special one out of the lot alone to get the stagger.

grind

reflex

wat

all these excuses every time. quake is right there, people claim they want it but never actually play it.

totalbiscuit was right

They tried multiplayer in 2016 and quake Champions and no one gave a fuck. There’s unironically no point. Zoomies only play Fortnite and CoD for multiplayer.

That seems like it’d be way too easy

or you can ignore the mechanic and just shoot the demon

i dont know dude.. coming from 2016 to this i guess i prefere 2016 to this more souls like approach to combat... it gives me the same feeling i have going from from ng, dmc,ff7r, kingdom hearts etc to dark souls combat.
Tell me i am wrong i dare you.
It works, it does nothing especially good or outstanding or bad or broken.. it just is deliberate and slow and works, it does its job but nothing more than that, nothing worse than that and nothing better than that it literally is a tool nothing more and at times its nice change of pace to get something slower and deliberate but there is nothing special about it it is the quintessential :| face.

why am I forced to glory kill

To get health back?

They drop health if you shoot

With what ammo?

This was the case in 2016, while glory kills only gave you a little 5-15 bonus, but I distinctly remember this being reversed in Eternal.

my head's spinning.i can't play fps games like these

OH NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
IT’S ETERNAL 2

Nah it happens too. I beat the game only using glory kills selectively. Plus you’ve still got health packs on the map and chain saw as a back up, you really don’t have to glory kill all that often if you don’t want to.

dark souls combat influence isnt always a good thing as path of exile 2 showed you cant just copy shit into different genres especially considering that many kinda forget (including from soft) what makes dark souls games actually good, its the level design, atmosphere and mobs not necessarily bossfights that one shot you with counter damage during your attacks. Try copy the good thing about dark souls its level and world design the combat was never special in dark souls and that soooo many devs dont get that after years is kinda infuriating to me.

Why isn't the bad guy moving or attacking

chain saw

is also a glory kill, and a more egregious one at that by being your primary source of ammo
god I wish they used the Maykr drone's headshot mechanic much earlier in the campaign

why didn't they give the enemies actual attack animations instead of making 3d vampire survivors?

i dont remember people shitting on doom2016, maybe about the convoluted levels or the glory kill system but otherwise it was well received bec it was an uncompromising shooter
now were fucking mario with parries, red light green light and bing bing wahoo

I don't know how to make an encounter interesting so I'll throw in revenants and archviles

interesting level design

brown hell and red mars with grey labs

Fucking retard
2016 and Eternal have the same corridor arena corridor level design but Eternal has a visual variety in its level unlike 2016

Yeah but it’s not that often. It’s literally the equivalent to knifing an enemy in any other FPS. You make sound like the game is unplayable because you chainsaw someone every now and then.

>zero level design

>Simon Says parry the green light!

it doesn't look fun as shit

But enough about Fromslop games

Definitely not unplayable, I would would just prefer gameplay not being designed around being interrupted.

So that's what the shield does? You click when green stuff is about to hit you?

chainsaw

doesn't recharge bloodpunch

is not affected by faster gk rune

it is le glorykill

Are you being retarded on purpose?

You also throw it. What were you expecting it to do? It’s a shield.

Yeah, they borrowed Street Fighter's Drive Rush and Drive Parry.

Throw it to stun a single enemy
Throw it intovan enemy with heated armor to get uuuh armor back
Block the incoming fire
Parry
Pull yourself towards the enemy like ssg meathook from the previous game

These are the greatest FPS games of all time. No further comment.

I don’t think you people realise just how stale the FPS genre has been for the last decade outside the doom games messing around with the arcadey gameplay.

Serious Sam 2 is the best Serious Sam game

This doesn't look fun as shit.

I was expecting it to block stuff, not be yet another timed "you can parry this but not that" thing that I've seen in countless games. You know what actually is surprisingly rare in a video game is a shield just blocking stuff.

Just let me turn off the accursed fucking cartoon vibrance shit or change the colors for the bing bing orbs, then fine. Maybe worth a slop-buy on sale in a year.

Just using it as a catch-all term for the "Press X to Awesome" cinematic kills.

is not affected by faster gk rune

Huh, I thought it was. Maybe it was in 2016.

You can block, retard. Why do you think there is shield's "health" in nudoom3?

Turret sections have been confirmed.
Quake 4 bros…we are so back.

dragon

mech

turret

This shit is gonna be so bad on replays.

every projectile so far in official trailers is reactable. you can be stationary, see the enemy shoot, then move out of the way easily.
youtube.com/watch?v=b6SnahCtP78
it looks like a game for babies. I have no problem with parryable projectiles or attacks but they need to be incorporated into the gameplay correctly where here it looks like the gimmick took over and made the whole game worse for it. I hope it proves me wrong.

I like these games but man I hate the art style. It’s take in sci fi is so lame and even the swimming stuff is quite cringey.

This has nothing to do with anything, fucking kill yourself

Live and champions don't count. Live was a reskin of 3 and champions runs and looks like shit, with awful netcode. We need a true sequel running on idtech. the issue if you can't translate strafe jumping onto console.

Pattern recognition is one of the most basic things dictating human behavior. Why do rwtards here think it's "kiddie shit"?

god it's even more cartoonish than eternal and 2016

if I move around a lot the gameplay will look less shitty

Doom has been trying this tired trope for decades and it still doesn't work.

skill issue

LOW AMMO
RELOAD DOCTOR DOOMMAN

Live and champions don't count.

see you think you want quake, but you don't even though it's right there. it's just a fashion statement or something to you

having to actively run into attacks to parry them because the projectiles are slow as shit is some weird gamedesign

That looks retarded. Play a real game like Ultrakill and not this consolebaby shit.

dies

already p-ranked first 2 acts on brutal.

next cope?

Nigger what you described is literally addressed by Nu-Doom. Do you think the glory kill system was made just to look cool? It's supposed to make you constantly push forward and get close.

I guess if you want the instance where it was mastered, try ULTRAKILL.

What are these fucking colors lmao? Why does it look so visually ugly, it's like both brown/grey and a ton of vibrant colors.

How the hell is the mechs bad?

You are a secondary and have never played OG doom.

I stuck with diabotical, which was the most hopeful arena shooter we've had. but the devs had to suck epic's dick by making it exclusive and taking a huge payday, then bailing on development. and their propietary engine is great. fashion statement my ass

I'm sure it will be fun just like Eternal and 2016 was but ever since ultrakill came out it has basically done what doom did but waaaay better while also being innovative in the FPS genre.

YOU CANT JUMP

AIEEEE SATAN SAMA DONT FUCKING KILL ME
He is trans btq

i remember bo4 being made fun of because the tards at activision used IIII instead of IV like any other adult human

Feels like I've already played it.

Strafe shooting at bullet sponges is not fun and I will not pretend it is

It’s slower than the last one, visibly (In the very tailored trailers). But the sliders may change that. Dunno, bruv. None of us can be sure yet so we shitpost.

Dang, you died. You should have pushed the mandatory glory kill button a couple times.

but the devs had to suck epic's dick by making it exclusive and taking a huge payday

no, they stuck wtih epic because otherwise they have 0 funding and the game never ever releases outside of closed alpha with 1.5 maps and instead of 2000 peak players it will have 40 peak players.

taking a huge payday, then bailing on development.

i guarantee you the reason someone writes an engine from scratch is not so they can make a niche game in a dead genre with a bunch of "scene" people at the helm. it was never EVER going to maintain even a triple digit playerbase at which point you are just throwing money away. also what killed it for good was serverside netcode, something even QC never had.serverside netcode combined with most of the playerbase being splintered across regions so absolutely nobody gets to have fun, at least with QC's semi clientside netcode you don't lose the ability to aim or move between map changes

This is so slow, boring, gay and stupid. How do you not feel patronized playing a weightless shooter like this? Imagine blasting something with what looks like the coolest gun ever and nothing happens to it; it does not lose a limb or slow down or stop even its attack on you. How do you deal? Do the pretty lights distract you?

1) super mario bros was NES, not SNES

2) are you implying Mario is hard? holy shit, way to out yourself as a a complete fuckiing retard

zoomers need to stay in their lane

forced to move the goalpost after 1 response

so this is the power of retards crying about running out of ammo in these games

Because they can balance for every difficulty setting specifically. Also you are right in a sense that there shouldn't be any difficulty settings at all.

my mummy brought it like pic related
you come accross as a youngin who collects le nintendo things, good for you

Also you are right in a sense that there shouldn't be any difficulty settings at all.

wrong take. the whole point of fps as a genre is that you play at whatever is your absolute limit in terms of ability. people with high ability will get bored if they have to play a game made to be fun for low ability players. this is why online games virtually all adopted the elo system

the game never ever releases outside of closed alpha

nonsense, they had a kickstarter that they refunded everyone because of the exclusivity deal. and yes you right about the engine, they took a larger amount of money so they could develop other games on the engine, another reason for them bailing on diabotical. it absolutely would've done better if they had released it on steam though. when it released on epic basically no one wanted to use the launcher, this was also before they even tried giving games away for free to lure users. as for the netcode, they did do some changes but none of that mattered because no one was playing because it was on epic.

No the whole point of fps is that shooting enemies and seeing them splattered in gore feels good. Serious Sam First and Second Encounter is where fps peaked as a genre and i am tired to pretend otherwise.

they took a larger amount of money so they could develop other games on the engine, another reason for them bailing on diabotical. it absolutely would've done better if they had released it on steam though

stop believing retarded 4chin console war shitposting about epic vs steam nobody who is adult actually cares. also without epic they don't get paid half a million or whatever and they instead take 10+ years to develop the game and yes there is a huge chance it never releases even with kickstarter or it releases and it lacks 90% of the features and is in a state nobody wants to play it. part of the reason the game was initially successful was because the engine shat all over saber's engine and because of the "fuck you" designs like permanent lobbies but it was always clear the people playing were people who played it were either complete noobs or people who played the games for 10 years and just like QC the playerbase eventually leaves and goes back to qc or ql or whatever free fps games there are if you weren't one of the main target audiences. also no case for them not trying, they had all the battle pass, cosmetic, xp grind shit for modern audiences but the core gameplay is incompatible no matter if you release it on steam, epic, netflix, roblox or whatever, the pool for these kind of games is limited by the people who have an interest in them, not which platform they are on, at which point platform availability is irrelevant because the extra amount of zoomers who would give the game a try if it was on steam queue or whatever for them doesn't matter because they will never stick around for a game like this anyway

darksiders

if only, then it could actually be fun.

You're half-correct.
It doesn't look fun.
But it does look as shit.

but you described nu-DOOM's main target audience

...says the 2016 nigger

thats not Halo 2 or Metro Exodus

This isn't a video game.

hate the fantasy genre

hate shields

hate melee

hate mechs

hate flyable mounts

I loved 2016 and Eternal, but this one simply isn't made for me.

but enough about japanese slop and gaylo/half life slowslop

Funny how the Doom fanbase has become just as tribalistic as Sonic

Classic Doom fags

Doom 3 fags

Doom 2016 fags

Eternalfags

Dark Age fags are next

fried-overdosed zoomer brain seething at superior video games

kek maybe you should read up on game design

Doom 3 fags

Doom 2016 fags

these don't exist, it's just some bored 35yo indian addicted to (You)s

Classic Doom fags

they mostly stay on Anon Babble

the best Doom game is Doom 3. All the people that hate it are retro hipsters that came along later and obsessed about doom 1 like they do Mario mushrooms.
Thats why doom eternal literally became mario.

Nope. I got into Doom and Doom 2 in the mid 90s.
Doom 3 is m favourite. Of the new games 2016 is my favourite because its similar to Doom 3.

Denuvo

looks like PS3 game

yet requires higher specs than the previous games

DoA

i was right

it's always the weebsloppers crying because their only relevant franchises are either gacha shit or creatively bankrupt shit like pokemon whose main demographic is the suicidal 40yo office worker

Didn't play that either, retard. I don't play shitty weightless bing wahoo bullet sponge games

quest marker pointing 180m away

bro what the fuck is this game this is parody

Let's take N. Cortex fight from Crash Bandicoot 1 and make it major game mechanic

dark ages comes out

mfw posting Dang, you died. You should have pushed the mandatory parry button a couple times.

707875970

dopamine addicted loser stays in the thread for 1hr waiting for someone to reply to his bait

This is so slow?

keep projecting zoom zoom

dude is afraid to directly reply to someone anonymously

brutal

Blender model rip of that bull-demon mount WHEN?
I really want to see BioShock2's Elizabeth get repeatedly raped by it before summer starts.

whys that m8?

demon beast is just serious sam’s werebull

cacodemon is just Duke Nukem’s octabrain

Are they going to rip off any other designs from FPS games?

so which one is more embarassing for you, defending weebslop or defending slowslop?

The dopefish clan lives

...says the og doom nigger

UnderTheMayo isn’t excited for it

It’s over

UnderTheMayo

i tried watching the video and he's just crying about how hard his life was and then about covid and he's being a whiny little bitch. with that said i'm a doom oldfag who dont give a shit about this game.

first ripping off octabrains

now ripping off sirian werebulls

out of ideas completely, huh?

it would be more embarrassing to be (you)

HOLY BASEROOSKI IS THAT A REFERENCE TO AN OLD THING I KNOW???????
PREORDERED 6 GORILLION COPIES

he says while continuing to seethe in the thread

kek, keep bumping my thread lil bitch nigga

QUAKEBROS

another tortanicschizo free bumping the thread on cooldown

eternal really broke you huh

yeah that is exactly problem with new doom

I already played red light, green light simulator. I don't feel a particular urge to do it again.

Can't wait to see Quake get raped next

first post in the thread, deluded nigger

enjoy the exciting new chapter of quake by playing through our classic selection of WADs and a new one developed by machinegames!

If the worlds beyond is the quake dimension I’ll cum
I want to fight a shambler in HD

responds in anger

good to know i was right. eternal won, you're still seething after 5 years

i completed eternal on UN out of spite then uninstalled it without even looking at the "expansions", shitter

eternal outsold all your weebslop and slowslop you waited your lifetime to play, and now there's a sequel while your weebslop and slowslop games are dying LOL

it doesnt look fun.

choose a boogeyman and stick with it you underage niggerfaggot lmoa

Eternal is weebslop thoughever

we ban first person shooters for the next 25 years.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

but you're the one being mad?

but eternal is having a sequel?

spamming random screencaps hoping one of them will stick

Y-YOU'RE MINDBROKEN

lol
lmao

lovecraftian

nothing about that looks lovecraftian ffs

it has scary tentacles and exposed brains!!!!!111

still sitting here bumping my thread after realizing all his weeb+slopslop games are dead and staying dead

awww, i made a friend :)

"hmm what moveset do we give the enemy riding a big mount?"

"he stands in place and shoots slow glowing bing bing slices"

"perfect!"

he doesn't know all fields

lole

It's insane how every enemy works the exact same, they shoot a projectile, sometimes the projectile is colored, and when you get in melee range they turn green and you can parry their melee attacks

weeb gacha coomer faggots who play marvel rivals and failed tortanicfags seethebumping another nuDoom thread

you absolutely love to see it

forgot to quote
i'm an autistic tranny btw

Doom Eternal killed the franchise creatively

schizonigger seething about made up issue

lul

because the Doom brand is strong and recognizable. Only the oldest of boomers know what Hexen is. They want to make money, not art

because you learn pattern recognition as a drooling retarded baby. Them making the game about red light-green light pattern recognition is in effect making the game for drooling retarded babies

he's still seethebumping my thread about doom eternal getting a sequel

tortanicfags lost

weebsloppers lost

slowfags lost

eternal won.

looking forwards to my next free bump from you :)

slowdown after every deflected projectile

deflecting has a mile wide hitbox

a million frames of an active hitbox to deflect

I'm probably gonna buy the game in the end, but that looks like shit.

this is simply not true

eternal with two le heckin doomslayer dlcs

there are presets retard-kun

It added the SSG so it's all balanced out

APOLOGIZE

No.

sorry you're piece of shit

noooo brah theres like no jumping and its story focus brooooo and get this theres like sliders SLIDERS BROOOOOO

this doesn't look fun as shit

doom isn't fun its about the story and the lore

doom's story and lore,jpg

Anything that is not standard gameplay is bad
It seems like mech is just even slower doomguy with fists, chaingun and dash. Whacking big slow titans is good only once and is a chore on replays

tda

>looks like PS3 game

How to out yourself as a zoomer without telling about it

Red means oh no!
Green means oh yeah!
Really going for the Roblox demographic on this one.

Oh yeah sorry it looks worse than a PS3 game actually my b

Bulletstorm > nu-neo-DOOM

all this blur

Concession accepted

2 weapon limit

Lmao
Get the fuck out, subhuman zoomer

why does this thread read like trannies were hired to shill doom

I know, I know. The truth can hurt.

qte

lol
Zoomers are the true subhumans

tell that to the devs cause I didn't see a story slider :P

the recoil also has camera shake
camera shake is gay

Because you're an amerifatt

Your false disdain for gimmicks betrays your cock sucking of DOOM: gimmicks edition

retard doesn't even know what he is babbling about

Der Untermensch, please

Speak English you fucking weeaboo

oink

Concession accepted

Accept this lmao tranny faggot

nice cartoon but this is a doom thread and we're HYPED

Game releases on my 30th birthday so gonna drink unreasonable amounts of alcohol and kill demons. Been loving the reboots so far.

it was a fucking spic all along

No wonder you devour dogshit slop like bulletstorm

omg your furbabies are gonna LUUVVV ITTTT

I wish the devs understood that the super shotgun was much cooler when it was just a normal double barrel shotgun, that added to the power fantasy.

making it adorned, giving it a billion bells and whistles to make it pop and be super duper ultra special because it's the epic Super Shotgun™ does not make it cooler.. it makes it gayer, it's the theater kid version of the SS.

Having it be a totally normal shotgun, contrasted against the other sci-fi weapons that shoots plasma, lasers etc only makes it cooler.

SHUT THE FUCK UP
THERE ARE SLIDERS HELLLLLOO SLIDERS

TORtanic fags are really trying to paint those as a bad thing, and nobody is biting.

Metal Eden looks mighty fine.

just make it only happen on hard difficulty and above
not like these mouth breathers even play on normal

...um

Make the game harder.

did you miss like 1/3 of Eternal's levels being set on medieval-science-fantasy planets?

Metal Eden looks like a fine Eternal-like, but robots/cyborgs just aren't as fundamentally fun to shoot as aliens or demons.

wouldn't you get completely fucked up doing this on nightmare though?

Holy shit, even Quake 1's bullet-sponge enemies are more fun than this.

Maybe? In that situation I could've dropped a grenade (any kind) or switched to CG with shield and dashed out while shooting. Overall, I like to play aggressively and at close range in DE because the game allows me to.

Shut up tranny nigger

I'm buying it, but it looks like 2016 which was a console shooter.

at least it had an interesting level design.

No it fucking didn't, all these games are just walk from Arena A to Arena B

And they always were

But flowchart Kens keeps losing, that isn't actually a good strategy

fuck you you're the whatever fag I love sliders and I was defending the game you schitzo

No. And even if you do take a ton of damage, this game has plenty of rubber banding mechanics.

Love the damage animations on demons, the way Arachnotron shakes its head-body is so funny to me.